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2022-07-01 10:21:08 PM  
Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.
 
2022-07-01 10:25:58 PM  

puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.


Maybe Boise State as well?
 
2022-07-01 10:39:06 PM  

kdawg7736: puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.

Maybe Boise State as well?


If they go toward UNLV why not.
 
2022-07-01 10:43:47 PM  

puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.


BYU already going to the Big 12.
They will get more tv money there over the PAC 12.
 
2022-07-01 10:46:21 PM  
It's the Pac-10 again?   Love it.  If Texas Tech gets brought back into the conversation, though, I'm going to choke Benji Beaver.
 
2022-07-02 1:45:35 AM  
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2022-07-02 5:28:00 AM  
They should go after all the scrub teams that once claimed a "National Title".   UCF, Boise State, anyone else who didn't get the chance to get humiliated by 'bama in the CFP.
 
2022-07-02 5:40:55 AM  
So we're going to be flying all the players from the non-revenue real amateur sports back and forth from New York to LA to play regular season conference games in order to make more pro football money.
 
2022-07-02 8:36:52 AM  
Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.
 
2022-07-02 9:02:26 AM  

ClavellBCMI: Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.


We seem to be drifting towards a two mega-conference approach and for football the Big 10 and SEC are in the lead.  In basketball a bunch of other conferences have more cache but who knows if that is enough.  At some point it's going to be an east vs west regular season then who knows what the playoffs will look like.
 
2022-07-02 9:11:52 AM  

ClavellBCMI: Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.


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Currently PAC-12 teams get about $20M per year and B1G teams get $40M per year.

The B1G tv contract is expiring in a year or so and they are thinking the new deal would top $1B.  Meaning they are estimating teams will start getting around $100M each year.
 
2022-07-02 9:16:06 AM  

TheFoz: ClavellBCMI: Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.

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Currently PAC-12 teams get about $20M per year and B1G teams get $40M per year.

The B1G tv contract is expiring in a year or so and they are thinking the new deal would top $1B.  Meaning they are estimating teams will start getting around $100M each year.


Ok I was off on my numbers a bit but there's a wide discrepancy in the amounts:

The Pac-12 dispersed on average $33.58 million to the 12 schools the year before the pandemic. The Big Ten's 12 vested members took home about $54.29 million. Both conferences have media rights negotiations up for bid, with the Big Ten's new contract beginning in 2023 and the Pac-12's in 2024.

https://theathletic.com/3393936/2022/07/01/usc-ucla-big-ten-pac-12-explained/?amp=1
 
2022-07-02 9:21:39 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: ClavellBCMI: Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.

We seem to be drifting towards a two mega-conference approach and for football the Big 10 and SEC are in the lead.  In basketball a bunch of other conferences have more cache but who knows if that is enough.  At some point it's going to be an east vs west regular season then who knows what the playoffs will look like.


There will be a single, uh, superior bowl game at the end between the two competing conferences. They should have the first one at the LA Coliseum.
 
2022-07-02 9:23:40 AM  
If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.
 
2022-07-02 10:13:45 AM  

WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.


Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.
 
2022-07-02 10:28:05 AM  
How long until the Big 10 decides that playing the Rose Bowl against a Pac 12 team is beneath them?
 
2022-07-02 10:40:40 AM  
College football overall:

What makes college football special?
- Ties to the school among the fanbase
- Deep history/tradition

What has the pursuit of money taken away from college football?
- Ties to the school; school is now a business transaction first and foremost
- Deep history/tradition, as regions become irrelevant and it just becomes bad pro football

Yet another thing ruined by love of money.
 
2022-07-02 10:43:25 AM  

IAmRight: College football overall:

What makes college football special?
- Ties to the school among the fanbase
- Deep history/tradition

What has the pursuit of money taken away from college football?
- Ties to the school; school is now a business transaction first and foremost
- Deep history/tradition, as regions become irrelevant and it just becomes bad pro football

Yet another thing ruined by love of money.


Eh, it was always pro football's rapey little brother.
 
2022-07-02 10:50:02 AM  

puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.


I wouldn't be mad at all if the B1G went after the academic Pac 12 schools. It's going to be 2 conferences eventually, so may as well get it over with. Grab Duke, UNC, Miami, and UVA while we're at it. ND can go fark itself. SEC can grab all the football only schools it wants. 2 conferences of 3 20 team divisions.
 
2022-07-02 10:53:00 AM  

ClavellBCMI: Why do all these schools think the Big 10 is a cash cow? By the time all these schools have finished joining the Big 10, that cash pool will have shrunk so much that they will be abandoning the Big 10 for the SEC... and drain *that* conference of all that money.


Estimates are that each school will get $100mln per year (currently get $40mln) with the addition of the LA market. This TV deal is up after the next school year.
 
2022-07-02 10:57:18 AM  

Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.


It's great when the Cheerleaders chant the "Fight Against the Wind" routine.
 
2022-07-02 11:11:37 AM  

Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.


Nah he'll be pretty silent about that one.
 
2022-07-02 11:13:28 AM  

Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.


Well, I mean, yeah. SELSTofT's schedule is always a farking joke!

Non-revenue/club sports are neat and all of that good stuff but I'd likely die of embarrassment if Ohio State was playing Alabama in the national title game and following some ad by Alabama heralding their football success if Ohio State had a subsequent ad acting as if the twenty-four national titles in synchronized swimming became a thing in 1977 was the same thing or even better. The Pac-12 does that shiat all the damn time with their "Conference of Champions" campaign and it is so cringey.
 
2022-07-02 11:21:59 AM  

HeathenHealer: Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.

Nah he'll be pretty silent about that one.


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2022-07-02 11:29:24 AM  

Sin'sHero: Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.

It's great when the Cheerleaders chant the "Fight Against the Wind" routine.


I've no idea what you were saying there but I put on Against the Wind, I now know what I'll be playing when I'm doing some stuff later. Such a beautiful piano in that song.
 
2022-07-02 11:31:20 AM  

puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.


BYU and Fresno State.

This is the lingering death of the conference brought on by Larry Scott, and that was only a result of the school chancellors allowing that farking clown to stay in his position as long as they did.

The Pac-12 has been the Mountain West, West for damn near a decade.    Expansion of the playoff to include "Power 5" conferences is hard because there really ain't 5 power conferences.   There might be three on any given year.

What does this mean for the Rose Bowl?
 
2022-07-02 11:34:59 AM  
Murica's obsession with labels continues. The term "Big 10" came from somewhere. It was derived. It had meaning. The meaning is now lost to marketing which is, of course, the prime objective.

However I know better than to rant like an old man. Soon enough there will be only two conferences: the SEC and Big 10. The playoffs will be much simplified, set up like the NFL. The winners of each will meet in the Super College Championship Bowl.

Now some will complain the schedules aren't fair because not every team plays every other team in the conference. Others will moan they need to play teams in the other conference for marketing reasons so inter-conference games will come along making it even better. Obviously, these folks are working at cross purposes, marketing and winning. For the non-competitives, I offer one of the other 40 bowl games.

Of course, cupcake games will remain because who wants to risk their undefeated season against good conference teams? A super top quality conference like the SEC or Big 10 is stacked with five or six really good teams that could beat you any day of the week. So cupcakes remain as is trying to play the lower half of your conference at every opportunity. The upshot is if you have a really good scheduler, you could go the whole season and only have to face a few good teams so you keep winning AND maintain that spot on top of the marketing polls.
 
2022-07-02 11:45:32 AM  

SuperChuck: How long until the Big 10 decides that playing the Rose Bowl against a Pac 12 team is beneath them?


They will, but it will be the fourth-best team in the B1G vs the Pac-10 champ.   There are two major conferences, three AAA conferences and a bunch of indie leagues.   Just like pro baseball.
 
2022-07-02 11:58:23 AM  
I wonder if this will kill the Stanford/USC rivalry. That one has been pretty fun over the last couple of decades.
 
2022-07-02 12:53:45 PM  

The Smails Kid: I wonder if this will kill the Stanford/USC rivalry. That one has been pretty fun over the last couple of decades.


Plus, what IAmRight said about tradition:

"The two teams first played in 1905 and have met nearly every year since 1919 (missing only 1921, 1924, and the World War II years 1943-1945), frequently vying for the conference championship and a berth in the Rose Bowl. Stanford is USC's oldest current rival."
 
2022-07-02 1:06:30 PM  

Rent Party: puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.

BYU and Fresno State.

This is the lingering death of the conference brought on by Larry Scott, and that was only a result of the school chancellors allowing that farking clown to stay in his position as long as they did.

The Pac-12 has been the Mountain West, West for damn near a decade.    Expansion of the playoff to include "Power 5" conferences is hard because there really ain't 5 power conferences.   There might be three on any given year.

What does this mean for the Rose Bowl?


I am an Illinois fan from the midwest who has lives in Seattle, and I have been screaming to my Husky and Coug friends for years how the "Pac-12 is acting more like a mid-major than a P5" and nobody believed me.

Well here it is on a plate.

Sucks to be right.

Oh, and my favorite naysaying thing I'd hear was: "Well that's because (random B1G town) has nothing to do but watch football and basketball, that's why Hec Ed is half empty for most games."

Yes, and now those random small farm towns in the B1G own USC and UCLA. Enjoy being irrelevant, UW.
Or at best, enjoy waiting for Notre Dame to ask you to join when they only want Oregon.
 
2022-07-02 1:15:45 PM  
If Ducks and Huskies also join Big Ten, Pac 12 is dead.

Merge with Big 12 and call it a day.
 
2022-07-02 1:17:15 PM  

Generation_D: Rent Party: puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.

BYU and Fresno State.

This is the lingering death of the conference brought on by Larry Scott, and that was only a result of the school chancellors allowing that farking clown to stay in his position as long as they did.

The Pac-12 has been the Mountain West, West for damn near a decade.    Expansion of the playoff to include "Power 5" conferences is hard because there really ain't 5 power conferences.   There might be three on any given year.

What does this mean for the Rose Bowl?

I am an Illinois fan from the midwest who has lives in Seattle, and I have been screaming to my Husky and Coug friends for years how the "Pac-12 is acting more like a mid-major than a P5" and nobody believed me.

Well here it is on a plate.

Sucks to be right.

Oh, and my favorite naysaying thing I'd hear was: "Well that's because (random B1G town) has nothing to do but watch football and basketball, that's why Hec Ed is half empty for most games."

Yes, and now those random small farm towns in the B1G own USC and UCLA. Enjoy being irrelevant, UW.
Or at best, enjoy waiting for Notre Dame to ask you to join when they only want Oregon.


Jim Owens was the head coach at the first Husky game I ever went to, and there is no flaw in your argument.

Larry Scott was a farkin' travesty for the entire conference.
 
2022-07-02 1:26:14 PM  

eddievercetti: If Ducks and Huskies also join Big Ten, Pac 12 is dead.

Merge with Big 12 and call it a day.


I doubt Oregon could satisfy the Big Ten's academic standards, if those still count.
 
2022-07-02 1:32:16 PM  

Rent Party: What does this mean for the Rose Bowl?


Same thing as it means for all the other bowls. They will get killed off by the realignment in favor of an NFL-style playoff. Basically we're going to see college football modeled after the NFL. The NFL has two conferences. And D1 college football will as well (Big10 and SEC). The schools in the Big10 and SEC will offer lucrative NIL deals to their players and academic standards will be gutted. The players will become for all intents and purposes professionals. The "bowl system" is just a hindrance to ESPN, tOSU and Texas making more cash so they will ditch it entirely. But not before an unsuccessful attempt to leverage the visibility of the bowls for marketing purposes (i.e. make the most noteworthy bowls part of the playoffs). But once they've sucked the life out of the bowls they will ditch them.
 
2022-07-02 1:40:54 PM  

puffy999: Sadly they may have to fark the attitude that they care how good a school is as a school (minus the grandfather clauses) and focus on what draws ratings.

So BYU and UNLV And maybe U Nevada (Reno). They may have to pull Fullerton and one or both San Diego schools in. Or, ew, Fresno.

And try to purge out of region.

The reality is I think they're done. And if I'm the BigTen I approach UC Boulder, because unlike a Nebraska it actually aligns with their academic goals as a conference. But they should also purge Stanford, Cal, and Washington if they care about that.


Nevada Reno is barely adequate for Mountain West, with the lowest budget in the conference. Pac is way out of its league.
 
2022-07-02 1:43:55 PM  
I think the target number will be 18. Football is king and is more difficult to schedule around. Two nine team divisions means a home and away for each divisional opponent. A ten game conference schedule would be completed with a rotating non-division home and away matchup. That or a third party site for nine non division match ups.

I know everyone is saying Washington and Oregon but I do not see it. From an academic, tradition and revenue standpoint, I think Stanford and Notre Dame.

East: IU, Maryland, UofM, MSU, OSU, PSU, Rutgers, Notre Dame and Purdue
West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Stanford, USC and UCLA

Non division matchups could be played throughout the season at prime time in NFL stadiums. Imagine UCLA vs OSU at Paul Brown.
Notre Dame vs USC at Sofi.
Michigan vs Stanford at Levi's stadium.
Iowa vs IU at Soldier Field.
Nebraska vs Maryland at M&T Bank
PSU vs Wisconsin at Lambeau.
Purdue vs Minnesota at US Bank
Sure we'd end up with Rutgers vs Northwestern at the local YMCA but it'd still be cool.
 
2022-07-02 1:53:36 PM  
I am hoping that when the dust clears, Utah gets to be in a power conference.

But they've done more or less everything they can do to make that happen, as far as football results go.
 
2022-07-02 2:03:40 PM  

Rent Party: Larry Scott was a farkin' travesty for the entire conference.


Texas and Oklahoma....

I know it's now all about the money, but for fark's sake.  It's the Pacific-10, 8, 12 whatever.

Just admit it's pro-football with a veneer of academics and be done with it.
 
2022-07-02 2:13:05 PM  

ghostfacekillahrabbit: So we're going to be flying all the players from the non-revenue real amateur sports back and forth from New York to LA to play regular season conference games in order to make more pro football money.


well of course.  it is in the constitution an the bible that non-revenue teams must be kept in the same conference as their football, and sometimes mens basketball, cash cows.

otherwise it would really be chaos.
 
2022-07-02 2:42:09 PM  
Said it before and I'll say it again, the NCAA is killing itself right now. Before the money jumped exponentially in the 80s the needs of ALL sports in a college's athletic department were at least balanced to help keep the school as a whole looking good. Now you're lucky if you have multiple schools in a conference that do so.

Sooner or later, when the money starts to slow down (or the entire world's credit-based economy collapses, whichever comes first at this point) there's gonna be a lot of little fish in big, big trouble.
 
2022-07-02 2:43:57 PM  
It would be funny (in a horrible sort of way) to see a Rose Bowl between USC and Stanford.....  Of course that would require USC to stop sucking.
 
2022-07-02 3:15:15 PM  

great_tigers: Non division matchups could be played throughout the season at prime time in NFL stadiums.

Imagine UCLA vs OSU at Paul Brown.

Why would tOSU want to play a home date out of town and in a venue smaller than its own by almost 40K seats?

Notre Dame vs USC at Sofi.
Why would USC want to play away from the Coliseum after spending $315 million to completely renovate it?

Michigan vs Stanford at Levi's stadium.
This wouldn't draw unless it was a Rose Bowl and each team was ranked in the top 10.

Iowa vs IU at Soldier Field.
Why would this game happen in Chicago? I could see Indiana playing at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis but it would need a bigger opponent than Iowa to draw a crowd large enough to justify it. If Indiana hosts Notre Dame there it could work.

Nebraska vs Maryland at M&T Bank
I doubt Nebraska is a big enough draw to justify it. Again, maybe vs. USC or ND?

PSU vs Wisconsin at Lambeau.
Again I don't think this matchup warrants the home team to want to travel just for the novelty of playing at an NFL venue. These schools have played regularly since 1995 and have never felt the need to change venues.

Purdue vs Minnesota at US Bank
This game can't even sell out Minny's home stadium much less the Vikings new palace.

Sure we'd end up with Rutgers vs Northwestern at the local YMCA but it'd still be cool.
USC vs. Rutgers at Met Life or Notre Dame vs. Northwestern at Soldier Field could work though.
 
2022-07-02 4:13:58 PM  
The only thing that would make this situation better is if instead of waiting two years school could just change conferences at the end of the season.

Give them a transfer portal like players and let chaos reign.

This only really works if they give guaranteed playoff spots to conference champs.  LSU can't win in the SEC bam transfer to the PAC-10.  Or maybe Alabama wants the chance to be a conference champ of every power 5 conference so they just keep transferring around.
 
2022-07-02 4:34:00 PM  

WoodyHayes: Sin'sHero: Dick Gozinya: WoodyHayes: If the Big Ten ever starts doing that "Conference of Champions" crap when UCLA's thumb wrestling or handball team wins a national title I will be making a very angry post informing all of you of my extreme displeasure at the situation.

Hypocrite! You know you'll be at the head of the parade when tOSU crushes Southeastern Louisiana State Technical College Of The Arts for the National Championship in competitive mime.

It's great when the Cheerleaders chant the "Fight Against the Wind" routine.

I've no idea what you were saying there but I put on Against the Wind, I now know what I'll be playing when I'm doing some stuff later. Such a beautiful piano in that song.


Hah. Thanks for asking, but I was trying to combine the "walking into the wind" mime routine with a Fight song.

Clearly, a swing and a miss.
 
2022-07-02 5:26:24 PM  

the1hatman: great_tigers: Non division matchups could be played throughout the season at prime time in NFL stadiums.

These were just examples of something fun, your answers are in bold below:

Imagine UCLA vs OSU at Paul Brown.
Why would tOSU want to play a home date out of town and in a venue smaller than its own by almost 40K seats?

Money

Notre Dame vs USC at Sofi.
Why would USC want to play away from the Coliseum after spending $315 million to completely renovate it?

Money

Michigan vs Stanford at Levi's stadium.
This wouldn't draw unless it was a Rose Bowl and each team was ranked in the top 10.

Money

Iowa vs IU at Soldier Field.
Why would this game happen in Chicago? I could see Indiana playing at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis but it would need a bigger opponent than Iowa to draw a crowd large enough to justify it. If Indiana hosts Notre Dame there it could work.

Money

Nebraska vs Maryland at M&T Bank
I doubt Nebraska is a big enough draw to justify it. Again, maybe vs. USC or ND?

Money

PSU vs Wisconsin at Lambeau.
Again I don't think this matchup warrants the home team to want to travel just for the novelty of playing at an NFL venue. These schools have played regularly since 1995 and have never felt the need to change venues.

Money

Purdue vs Minnesota at US Bank
This game can't even sell out Minny's home stadium much less the Vikings new palace.

Money

Sure we'd end up with Rutgers vs Northwestern at the local YMCA but it'd still be cool.
USC vs. Rutgers at Met Life or Notre Dame vs. Northwestern at Soldier Field could work though.

Money- Kind of


The biggest money maker is viewership. If for nine weeks a year the Big Ten is able to put on a show that could rival the CBS broadcast at 8:00 PM EST, you would see Fox, ESPN and maybe NBC loading up the money truck to broadcast the games. The stadiums have technology to allow for a viewership experience that is unbelievable. Being strategic with when the games are scheduled would have to be imperative.

For week two, would you  rather watch  Michigan vs Stanford or LSU vs North Texas? Easy answer.

For week five, PSU vs Wisconsin, would you prefer that or South Carolina vs Florida at the swamp? Somewhat difficult but still a huge draw.

For week nine would you rather watch Notre Dame vs USC or Mississippi State vs Auburn? More difficult but would pull huge ratings on both games. 

Fark it, I'm drunk and can't wait for college football.
 
2022-07-02 6:02:43 PM  

great_tigers: the1hatman: great_tigers: Non division matchups could be played throughout the season at prime time in NFL stadiums.

These were just examples of something fun, your answers are in bold below:

Imagine UCLA vs OSU at Paul Brown.
Why would tOSU want to play a home date out of town and in a venue smaller than its own by almost 40K seats?

Money

Notre Dame vs USC at Sofi.
Why would USC want to play away from the Coliseum after spending $315 million to completely renovate it?

Money

Michigan vs Stanford at Levi's stadium.
This wouldn't draw unless it was a Rose Bowl and each team was ranked in the top 10.

Money

Iowa vs IU at Soldier Field.
Why would this game happen in Chicago? I could see Indiana playing at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis but it would need a bigger opponent than Iowa to draw a crowd large enough to justify it. If Indiana hosts Notre Dame there it could work.

Money

Nebraska vs Maryland at M&T Bank
I doubt Nebraska is a big enough draw to justify it. Again, maybe vs. USC or ND?

Money

PSU vs Wisconsin at Lambeau.
Again I don't think this matchup warrants the home team to want to travel just for the novelty of playing at an NFL venue. These schools have played regularly since 1995 and have never felt the need to change venues.

Money

Purdue vs Minnesota at US Bank
This game can't even sell out Minny's home stadium much less the Vikings new palace.

Money

Sure we'd end up with Rutgers vs Northwestern at the local YMCA but it'd still be cool.
USC vs. Rutgers at Met Life or Notre Dame vs. Northwestern at Soldier Field could work though.

Money- Kind of

The biggest money maker is viewership. If for nine weeks a year the Big Ten is able to put on a show that could rival the CBS broadcast at 8:00 PM EST, you would see Fox, ESPN and maybe NBC loading up the money truck to broadcast the games. The stadiums have technology to allow for a viewership experience that is unbelievable. Being strategic with when the games are scheduled would have to be imperative.

For week two, would you  rather watch  Michigan vs Stanford or LSU vs North Texas? Easy answer.

For week five, PSU vs Wisconsin, would you prefer that or South Carolina vs Florida at the swamp? Somewhat difficult but still a huge draw.

For week nine would you rather watch Notre Dame vs USC or Mississippi State vs Auburn? More difficult but would pull huge ratings on both games. 

Fark it, I'm drunk and can't wait for college football.


You must be drunk to think it's more of a tough choice for Mississippi State vs Auburn than Notre Dame vs USC.  Screw it, enjoy the 4th...for all 3 days of this weekend
 
2022-07-02 7:17:09 PM  

Hendawg: great_tigers:
For week nine would you rather watch Notre Dame vs USC or Mississippi State vs Auburn? More difficult but would pull huge ratings on both games. 

Fark it, I'm drunk and can't wait for college football.

You must be drunk to think it's more of a tough choice for Mississippi State vs Auburn than Notre Dame vs USC.  Screw it, enjoy the 4th...for all 3 days of this weekend


USC v. Notre Dame happened every year usually in October/November and was regularly broadcast on NBC (that has the Notre Dame games for the recent years) or nationally.  Its a draw I guess, but if there is a compelling Big 10 or SEC matchup to determine the title, I would usually focus on those games in recent years.
 
2022-07-02 8:27:55 PM  
Didn't read the thread but the Big 12 and the Pac-12 (10?) should merge into the BIG PAC, 20-22 team super conference.
 
2022-07-02 8:29:30 PM  

TotallyHeadless: Didn't read the thread but the Big 12 and the Pac-12 (10?) should merge into the BIG PAC, 20-22 team super conference.


No, the Biggie-Pac.
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