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(TaxProf)   After a math professor caught them cheating to get their #2 U.S. News ranking, Columbia will sit out this year's college rankings   (taxprof.typepad.com) divider line
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2022-07-01 7:13:51 PM  
15 votes:
College rankings are a pretty good way to prompt otherwise intelligent people to do really stupid things.
 
2022-07-01 7:36:21 PM  
14 votes:
When I started grad school, Michigan was #2 in nuclear engineering. The next year, we went up to #1. Almost immediately, the enrollment doubled.

Some people take this shiat seriously.

/still #1, last I checked.
//Glow Blue
 
2022-07-01 7:17:04 PM  
12 votes:
US News rankings are fraud anyway.
 
2022-07-01 8:03:50 PM  
6 votes:

Unobtanium: forteblast: When I started grad school, Michigan was #2 in nuclear engineering. The next year, we went up to #1. Almost immediately, the enrollment doubled.

Some people take this shiat seriously.

/still #1, last I checked.
//Glow Blue

Didn't they close their research reactor?

Georgia Tech closed theirs after the Olympics.


Yep, when I was a junior. Some VP said that it was too big a liability after 9/11. We ended up visiting the one at Dow Chemical in Midland for our senior lab class.

It really did glow blue, thanks to the Cherenkov radiation. I was one of the last people to see it in operation...
 
2022-07-01 7:49:46 PM  
5 votes:

forteblast: When I started grad school, Michigan was #2 in nuclear engineering. The next year, we went up to #1. Almost immediately, the enrollment doubled.

Some people take this shiat seriously.

/still #1, last I checked.
//Glow Blue


I heard they also have a crazy teacher who wears dark glasses.
 
2022-07-02 12:12:04 AM  
5 votes:
At my previous university, I was on a committee (naturally) charged with exploring what we could do to game these rankings. That wasn't the official charge, mind you, but that's clearly what they wanted.

I recall one of the criteria (mid 90's) was the percentage of alumni that donated to the university. One of the administrative functions as part of the graduation process - either diploma printing or the intent to graduate or similar - started charging a small fee, like $1.50, to perform some service. The fee was officially refundable, but you had to go down to the bursar's office to collect it. Most people wouldn't bother doing that because family is in town, they are celebrating with friends, or in a hurry to leave and start a job, whatever, and besides, it was only $1.50. The alternative to reimbursement was for the student to check a box and say they would donate it to the university. This spiked donations for us; endownment not so much. Naturally, our score in that area of these rankings improved, and administration was pleased.
 
2022-07-01 10:14:45 PM  
3 votes:

Oneiros: About 1997 or so, the university that I worked for raised the quota for student accounts to 41MB.  You might think 'that's a rather arbitrary amount', but it was because some ranking of schools had the question of 'how much space do you give students for websites' and the last two options were '31-40MB' and 'more than 40MB'

Of course, there was also someone who might have been doing some sort of rankings as they made the mistake of emailing 'wwwwwwgwuedu' with a bunch of questions.  I remember that I was pretty snarky about answering them, but for some reason one stuck in my memory:

Q: Do all of the rooms have Internet?
A: That is just sick.  I can only think of two people who would take a computer into the bathroom with them.

... but many years later, I was at work, and I found a third.  Someone had plugged their laptop into the outlet near the sink, and had stretched the cord under the bathroom stall door.  It was a horrible tripping hazard.  I mentioned it to one of the civil servants, and he replied 'he's back?  He usually uses the bathroom on the second floor'


I would have just unplugged it and booked it out before they have a chance to extricate themselves
 
2022-07-02 1:26:24 AM  
3 votes:

gentlemanfarmer: At my previous university, I was on a committee (naturally) charged with exploring what we could do to game these rankings. That wasn't the official charge, mind you, but that's clearly what they wanted.

I recall one of the criteria (mid 90's) was the percentage of alumni that donated to the university. One of the administrative functions as part of the graduation process - either diploma printing or the intent to graduate or similar - started charging a small fee, like $1.50, to perform some service. The fee was officially refundable, but you had to go down to the bursar's office to collect it. Most people wouldn't bother doing that because family is in town, they are celebrating with friends, or in a hurry to leave and start a job, whatever, and besides, it was only $1.50. The alternative to reimbursement was for the student to check a box and say they would donate it to the university. This spiked donations for us; endownment not so much. Naturally, our score in that area of these rankings improved, and administration was pleased.


It's just classic Goodhart's Law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

When a metric becomes the target, it ceases to be a useful metric.

It's becoming more and more common in today's data driven world.
 
2022-07-01 7:18:42 PM  
2 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: Your blog sucks.


User name checks out.
 
2022-07-01 7:13:53 PM  
1 vote:
Your blog sucks.
 
2022-07-01 7:18:10 PM  
1 vote:
"After a math professor caught them cheating to get their #2 U.S. News ranking, Columbia will sit out this year's college rankings "

Well, Columbia should sit. It must be tiring to hold up that torch all the time.
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2022-07-01 7:35:30 PM  
1 vote:
Give the cheater 30 days to out themself.  Then have the cheater do the honorable thing and commit public suicide.  If the cheater does not out themselves, revoke all diplomas from every person to EVER graduate from Columbia and ahut down the university permanently.  Have the government seize all the assets.  Burn the whole thing down to the ground and salt the earth.
 
2022-07-01 7:53:55 PM  
1 vote:
The Princeton Review guide rates which are the best party schools anyway.
 
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