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2022-07-01 6:34:33 AM  
Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.
 
2022-07-01 6:55:03 AM  

IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.


It always amazes me that the reason that we started moving away from having cable is because people were annoyed they were paying too much and getting too many channels they only watched once in a while and didn't need most of the time.

And now we're moving towards paying too much for getting services we only watch once in a while and don't need most of the time.

People are not all that smart.
 
2022-07-01 7:49:31 AM  
There's going to be 2 60 team conferences. 20 teams in 3 divisions.

Hopefully this means we can finally implement relegation into things. I've long thought the MAC title winner should be playing for a spot in the B1G, and the bottom 2 B1G teams could play the night before the conference championship game to see who gets to stay with the money. Same with Sun Belt and SEC, Mt West and Pac 12, and I guess Conf USA and ACC?  Independents can gft.
 
2022-07-01 7:53:31 AM  

IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.


It's not great, but it's still a step up from where we currently are with Bally and the regional networks/blackouts. I'm looking forward to Apple's deal with the MLS, as finding and watching MLS games is a nightmare at times.
 
2022-07-01 7:56:28 AM  

FriarReb98: IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.

It always amazes me that the reason that we started moving away from having cable is because people were annoyed they were paying too much and getting too many channels they only watched once in a while and didn't need most of the time.

And now we're moving towards paying too much for getting services we only watch once in a while and don't need most of the time.

People are not all that smart.


The nice thing is with streaming services is that you can bounce around between different ones from month to month. With cable to get a decent price you pretty much had to lock into a year+ long contract (one where they could raise prices at any time). Plus if you cancelled you cable for a few months when you weren't watching then reactivated it they would surely hit you with a bunch of stupid activation fees.
 
2022-07-01 8:06:39 AM  
Where wolf:

It's not great, but it's still a step up from where we currently are with Bally and the regional networks/blackouts. I'm looking forward to Apple's deal with the MLS, as finding and watching MLS games is a nightmare at times.

FTFY

JK. You do you.
 
2022-07-01 8:52:15 AM  

IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.


College started this several years ago when each conference started their own channel. Sucked then and it's not going to get any better with streaming.
 
2022-07-01 10:01:52 AM  

Where wolf: IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.

It's not great, but it's still a step up from where we currently are with Bally and the regional networks/blackouts. I'm looking forward to Apple's deal with the MLS, as finding and watching MLS games is a nightmare at times.


This will be a nightmare for the MLS, as no one is going to join a crappy service just for MLS and it has one of the lowest subscription rates out of the services, it just happens to be backed by big money from Apple.

Yes, they should have aligned earlier on where to have games, I have no problem with Bally in Columbus but they probably could have done a better job handling everything in the last-minute scramble to find a buyer for the service.

The viewership will be dismal and in 2-3 years they will be looking for an out.
 
2022-07-01 10:30:28 AM  

OhioUGrad: I have no problem with Bally in Columbus


because (I'm assuming) you either have cable or AT&T. Bally froze out every streaming option (Hulu Live, YouTube TV, Sling) and even Dish. I probably would have preferred The Mouse ponied up more cash and bought all the games for ESPN, but they'll still have lots of big games on TV to bring folks in. But compared to the current setup (have cable, steal a login from your parents, or play VPN games with ESPN+), the Apple deal has better potential.

And it'll be free for me, as I don't plan on getting rid of my season tickets any time soon.
 
2022-07-01 12:26:11 PM  
No thanks.

It still blows my mind that the BTN wasn't available in Columbus through Time Warner for the first year the BTN existed. How do you possibly fark something up that badly?
 
2022-07-01 12:37:31 PM  
Apple TV+ is by far the least accessible, least consumer friendly of the streaming services, and that says a lot
 
2022-07-01 1:00:58 PM  

The Bestest: Apple TV+ is by far the least accessible, least consumer friendly of the streaming services, and that says a lot


...why? How many iPhones, iPads, iMacs have sold in this country in the last 5 years? Apple TV+ is also available on Roku, Amazon's Fire Stick, etc.

I'm not even a subscriber, but what makes it less accessible than Netflix, Hulu, etc?
 
2022-07-01 1:35:25 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: The Bestest: Apple TV+ is by far the least accessible, least consumer friendly of the streaming services, and that says a lot

...why? How many iPhones, iPads, iMacs have sold in this country in the last 5 years? Apple TV+ is also available on Roku, Amazon's Fire Stick, etc.

I'm not even a subscriber, but what makes it less accessible than Netflix, Hulu, etc?


of the dozen of devices in my home that plays just about every other streaming service without issue, none of them except the PCs can play Apple TV, and those can only do so via browser. The litany of issues surrounding AppleID, -especially- if you don't own any Apple products, is another layer on top of that.
 
2022-07-01 1:40:14 PM  

mechgreg: FriarReb98: IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.

It always amazes me that the reason that we started moving away from having cable is because people were annoyed they were paying too much and getting too many channels they only watched once in a while and didn't need most of the time.

And now we're moving towards paying too much for getting services we only watch once in a while and don't need most of the time.

People are not all that smart.

The nice thing is with streaming services is that you can bounce around between different ones from month to month. With cable to get a decent price you pretty much had to lock into a year+ long contract (one where they could raise prices at any time). Plus if you cancelled you cable for a few months when you weren't watching then reactivated it they would surely hit you with a bunch of stupid activation fees.


https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/newsletter/2022-04-05/here-are-four-charts-that-explain-future-of-streaming-the-wide-shot

That truth won't stay true forever. Right now they're in the carrot strategy to fight churn, but eventually, the stick will come. Anti-churn cancellation fees are going to come, maybe by the end of the year.
 
2022-07-01 2:04:23 PM  

LL316: There's going to be 2 60 team conferences. 20 teams in 3 divisions.

Hopefully this means we can finally implement relegation into things. I've long thought the MAC title winner should be playing for a spot in the B1G, and the bottom 2 B1G teams could play the night before the conference championship game to see who gets to stay with the money. Same with Sun Belt and SEC, Mt West and Pac 12, and I guess Conf USA and ACC?  Independents can gft.


Doesn't work when entire conferences and most of others are not aligned simply for sports or they are but won't be too keen to see their basketball program relegated because their football team stunk for one season.

People love to talk relegation in college conference threads, which I do think is an interesting thought experiment, but if anyone actually thinks anything like that would ever truly be implemented they're way off base. Universities and their respective athletic departments are far more complicated entities than stand alone soccer clubs. We can't even implement relegation for the MLS in America.
 
2022-07-01 3:00:27 PM  

FriarReb98: IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.

It always amazes me that the reason that we started moving away from having cable is because people were annoyed they were paying too much and getting too many channels they only watched once in a while and didn't need most of the time.

And now we're moving towards paying too much for getting services we only watch once in a while and don't need most of the time.

People are not all that smart.


TBF I'd rather pay for individual channels than pay Fox News a dime.
 
2022-07-01 3:07:33 PM  

WoodyHayes: No thanks.

It still blows my mind that the BTN wasn't available in Columbus through Time Warner for the first year the BTN existed. How do you possibly fark something up that badly?


*laughs in Pac12 Network*

When the Pac12 Network started, for several YEARS, you couldn't get it in most parts of Oregon (IIRC including Eugene) unless you had either Comcast as the cable provider, or went with Dish (I think). And they just so happened to start putting the Oregon-Oregon State rivalry games on the Pac12 Network.

Maybe USC and UCLA leave the conference if all of that isn't one of the worst f*ckups of the 21st century (Larry Scott should be disemboweled), but it wouldn't have been like this. When all of the other conferences are making money, even the rotting corpse of the BigXII, and you're still trying to pigeonhole your conference into your little shiat network and a weekly night game, well... this is what happens.
 
2022-07-01 5:59:32 PM  

puffy999: FriarReb98: IlGreven: Juuuuuust what we need: TV sports rights to be Balkanized across so many different platforms that you need to take out a second mortgage to watch them all...and most people don't even have a house to put a first mortgage on.

It always amazes me that the reason that we started moving away from having cable is because people were annoyed they were paying too much and getting too many channels they only watched once in a while and didn't need most of the time.

And now we're moving towards paying too much for getting services we only watch once in a while and don't need most of the time.

People are not all that smart.

TBF I'd rather pay for individual channels than pay Fox News a dime.


I approve of your argument. ;)
 
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