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(MSNBC)   Who needs a hobby like tennis or philately, but now they're trying to take it all away from us unless we take a stand hand in hand. Let's hear it for the Supreme Court. Don't let them take it away. It's the 7 p.m. ET MSNBC thread   (msnbc.com) divider line
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2022-06-30 4:06:54 PM  
Los Angeles Times

Meadows brought fraud allegation to Barr the day after 2020 election

Two minutes later, Barr replied: "Got it."

The messages, which were included in records related to the 2020 election released by the Justice Department under the Freedom of Information Act, appear to be the earliest documented instances in which Meadows brought allegations of election fraud to Barr, an effort that would continue for weeks as the president, his legal team and his supporters pushed conspiracy theories in an attempt to change the outcome of the election. Trump, Meadows and others also pressured the Justice Department to get directly involved in ongoing lawsuits over election results and to issue blanket statements that fraud had occurred.

Barr said repeatedly after the election, including in a Dec. 1 interview with the Associated Press, that he did not find any evidence of widespread fraud in the election and that most of the allegations levied by Trump and those in his circle were related to individual instances and not a larger systemic problem.

The House Jan. 6 committee held a hearing earlier this month focused on that pressure campaign. The bulk of their presentation, however, highlighted the increasing insistence by Trump in the final weeks of his presidency that the department get involved in pushing his unsubstantiated claims of fraud, going so far as to mull removing the acting attorney general in order to place a supporter in the role three days before Congress certified the election results on Jan. 6.

Barr told the committee in his deposition that Meadows would send him information and allegations that the president or others had drawn attention to, and he would send it to staff to determine whether it should be further scrutinized, according to a person familiar with Barr's testimony who asked to remain anonymous to speak candidly to The Times about the proceedings.

"[Meadows] really just sent them over as if he was getting them off his desk. He never pushed or hounded [the Justice Department] about doing" anything with the information, the person said Barr told the committee, noting that Barr saw it as perfectly normal communication from the White House chief of staff.

It is unclear if the texts to Barr are among the thousands of text messages Meadows selectively turned over to the House committee before he abruptly stopped cooperating with its investigation. The texts to Barr are not among those leaked to and published by various media outlets. CNN and the Washington Post have reviewed hundreds of Meadows' messages, including texts from conservative figures pushing him to have Trump fight the election results in court, and texts he received from lawmakers and conservative media personalities during the Jan. 6 insurrection.

The Nov. 4 text from Meadows is the only one in which Barr replied to Meadows. The former attorney general immediately forwarded the link to his Chief of Staff Will Levi with a note, "Please get to right people."

Meadows did not return requests for comment.

The texts from Meadows continued, particularly after Barr made the unorthodox decision to issue a memo telling federal prosecutors that they were allowed to investigate "specific allegations" of voter fraud before the presidential election results were certified. The memo warned that "specious, speculative, fanciful or far-fetched claims should not be a basis for initiating federal inquiries."

The memo ran counter to the Justice Department's decades-old non-interference policy, which prohibited investigations into allegations of fraud or other overt investigative steps until after the certification of election results so as not to affect the outcome.

Meadows texted Barr again on Nov. 10, sending him a .pdf file labeled "Carone_Affidavit" that Barr would, in turn, forward to Levi with no instructions. In a separate message Meadows wrote, "Referenced FBI in affidavit."

The affidavit was from Mellissa Carone, a contract IT worker who made several claims about election fraud at a vote-counting center in Detroit, including allegations that she saw ballots illegally scanned multiple times and that vans meant to bring in meals for election workers were hiding tens of thousands of ballots. The document was included in a suit brought by the Trump campaign in Wayne County, Mich. A county judge later ruled on Nov. 13 that Carone's allegations "simply are not credible" and denied the campaign's request to block the county from certifying the results.

Despite the ruling, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani used Carone as his star witness at a Dec. 2, 2020, hearing about election fraud held by the Michigan House.

Meadows also texted Barr a link to a different O'Keefe tweet on Nov. 10, 2020, which has also been deleted but can be found online, with the message "the audio is troublesome." O'Keefe's tweet included purported audio snippets of an interview a Pennsylvania postal worker had with federal agents after he had alleged his superiors were instructing workers to backdate mail ballots. Though the worker had recanted his story that day, O'Keefe's tweet included a statement from the worker that he actually stood by his original claims.

The allegation is one of several the Department of Justice examined after the election, Barr has said.

The next afternoon, Meadows sent Barr a video file and a message stating "Dale Harrison in Colorado. May be manipulation but worth review." Harrison, a TikTok prankster, was seen in the video destroying a Trump ballot while dressed as a postal worker.

Barr also forwarded the video to Levi, along with Meadows' message. Levi responded quickly with a link to a Newsweek article in which Harrison admitted that he faked destroying a ballot to gain followers.

The final messages from Meadows to Barr included a Microsoft Word document detailing an effort by the Lincoln Project, a political action committee led by Republicans who opposed Trump, to get Pennsylvania attorneys working on election fraud legislation fired. Barr did not respond or forward the document.
 
2022-06-30 4:08:08 PM  
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-epa-ruling-2e893673819a1b6c6aa272a5e814f0b0

Supreme Court limits EPA in curbing power plant emissions

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a blow to the fight against climate change , the Supreme Court on Thursday limited how the nation's main anti-air pollution law can be used to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.
 
2022-06-30 4:08:37 PM  
https://apnews.com/article/biden-us-supreme-court-mexico-donald-trump-missouri-93496633afb7b042587890778337db67

Supreme Court: Biden properly ended Trump-era asylum policy

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Biden administration properly ended a Trump-era policy forcing some U.S.
 
2022-06-30 4:09:14 PM  
CNBC

Core personal consumption expenditures prices, excluding food and energy, rose 4.7% from a year ago, slightly less than expected.
 
2022-06-30 4:09:52 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-epa-ruling-2e893673819a1b6c6aa272a5e814f0b0

Supreme Court limits EPA in curbing power plant emissions

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a blow to the fight against climate change , the Supreme Court on Thursday limited how the nation's main anti-air pollution law can be used to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.


https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1542509020891598848

The Supreme Court sharply curtails the authority of the EPA to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions that cause climate change. In a 6-3 ruling, the court sides with conservative states and fossil-fuel companies in adopting a narrow reading of the Clean Air Act.
 
2022-06-30 4:10:13 PM  
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/kentucky-judge-blocks-state-enforcing-abortion-bans-2022-06-30/

Judges in Florida and Kentucky on Thursday moved to block those states from enforcing bans or restrictions on abortion after the U.S. Supreme Court last week overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had established a nationwide right to it.
 
2022-06-30 4:10:50 PM  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-says-supports-exception-senate-filibuster-allow-democrats-pass-a-rcna36108

The president made the remarks at a news conference in Madrid and said he would support carving out the Senate's 60-vote threshold to pass most legislation in order to protect the right to privacy.
 
2022-06-30 4:11:10 PM  
https://apnews.com/article/nato-biden-china-madrid-fe9c7fe07122413754d087e61a95a202

MADRID (AP) - President Joe Biden said Thursday that the Supreme Court's decision ending a constitutional right to abortion is "destabilizing," but he maintained the ruling does not affect U.S.
 
2022-06-30 4:11:48 PM  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/ketanji-brown-jackson-sworn-supreme-court-justice-rcna36115

Ketanji Brown Jackson sworn in as first Black woman on the Supreme Court

Jackson, a former public defender and federal appeals court judge, replaces Justice Stephen Breyer, who has officially retired from the high court.
 
2022-06-30 4:12:12 PM  
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-crime-donald-trump-congress-government-and-politics-bb9efcbca309c3acb66e9c6d8a13657d

WASHINGTON (AP) - About half of Americans believe former President Donald Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the U.S. Capitol attack on Jan.
 
2022-06-30 4:12:23 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-crime-donald-trump-congress-government-and-politics-bb9efcbca309c3acb66e9c6d8a13657d

WASHINGTON (AP) - About half of Americans believe former President Donald Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the U.S. Capitol attack on Jan.


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2022-06-30 4:12:49 PM  
https://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/1542570086652854272

Federal prosecutors have launched an investigation into the NYPD's Special Victims Division, which commonly handles crimes involving rape, sexual abuse and children, for discriminatory policing against women.
 
2022-06-30 4:13:46 PM  
https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1542543922840436736

A group protesting the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade is staging a sit in on Consitition Ave.

Congresswoman Judy Chu is arrested as police clear the street.
 
2022-06-30 4:14:33 PM  
We're a normal country.

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1542570944027365383

In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Thomas expresses support for a debunked claim that all Covid vaccines are made with cells from "aborted children."
 
2022-06-30 4:14:58 PM  
https://twitter.com/Kate_Riga24/status/1542533417828499459

A clearly angry Kagan pulling no punches: "The current Court is textualist only when being so suits it. When that method would frustrate broader goals, special canons like the 'major questions doctrine' magically appear as get out-of-text-free cards"
 
2022-06-30 4:15:31 PM  
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-radical-voting-rights-theory_n_62bdbb0ae4b00a9334e53b49

Supreme Court Will Hear Case On Radical Voting Rights Theory

A case brought by North Carolina Republicans could wipe out protections against extreme partisan gerrymandering and endanger voting rights.
 
2022-06-30 4:16:14 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-radical-voting-rights-theory_n_62bdbb0ae4b00a9334e53b49

Supreme Court Will Hear Case On Radical Voting Rights Theory

A case brought by North Carolina Republicans could wipe out protections against extreme partisan gerrymandering and endanger voting rights.


https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1542560060768825344

The case "could effectively give all electoral authority to state legislatures, including in the approval of the winner of the state's Electoral College electors."

What could possibly go wrong?
 
2022-06-30 4:17:26 PM  

JulieAzel626: JulieAzel626: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-radical-voting-rights-theory_n_62bdbb0ae4b00a9334e53b49

Supreme Court Will Hear Case On Radical Voting Rights Theory

A case brought by North Carolina Republicans could wipe out protections against extreme partisan gerrymandering and endanger voting rights.

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1542560060768825344

The case "could effectively give all electoral authority to state legislatures, including in the approval of the winner of the state's Electoral College electors."

What could possibly go wrong?


https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1542520610290446337

The Supreme Court has granted cert to Moore v. Harper (the "independent state legislature doctrine" case), meaning it will decide next term whether state legislatures (and not courts) have sole jurisdiction over election law.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1542581828648943617

Hard to overstate what a radical step this would be, given that many swing-state legislatures are gerrymandered in ways that self-perpetuate GOP control. Would decimate checks and balances.
 
2022-06-30 4:18:07 PM  
https://nbcnews.to/3Ny8kTl

After Uvalde, a citizen-led effort to change gun laws in Oregon

The group organizing the ballot initiative this week surpassed the minimum number of signatures it needs to be able to put the proposal before the state's voters.
 
2022-06-30 4:18:34 PM  
https://apnews.com/article/g-7-summit-russia-ukraine-putin-boris-johnson-justin-trudeau-6f900bb1c186cb69974b7d04f2e76c83

Putin: Western leaders would look 'disgusting' topless

MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin shot back at Western leaders who mocked his athletic exploits, saying they would look "disgusting" if they tried to emulate his bare-torso appearances.
 
2022-06-30 4:18:55 PM  
https://abc7.com/sports/usc-ucla-considering-move-from-pac-12-to-big-ten-as-early-as-2024/12006612/

USC and UCLA, two of the Pac-12's flagship programs, are considering leaving the conference for the Big Ten as early as 2024.
 
2022-06-30 4:19:28 PM  
https://nbcnews.to/3OBwfTd

Biden plans to deliver major Jan. 6 speech when House probe ends

The goal would be to emphasize what he says is at stake should former President Trump or his allies return to power in Washington, sources told NBC News.
 
2022-06-30 4:19:54 PM  
https://abc7ny.com/stonewall-inn-nyc-pride-march-new-york-city/11986999/

Stonewall visitor center will be dedicated to LGBTQ history

The groundbreaking for the Stonewall National Monument Visitor Center in New York City's Greenwich Village neighborhood will take place Friday.
 
2022-06-30 4:20:15 PM  
https://abc7ny.com/animals-dying-tiger-gets-covid-19-corona-virus-ohio-dies/12006590/

Jupiter, a 14-year-old Amur tiger, passed away on Sunday after officials at the Columbus Zoo confirmed that he had developed pneumonia which was caused by the COVID-19 virus.
 
2022-06-30 4:20:42 PM  
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1542502510182764544

President Biden just called for a carveout exception to the Senate filibuster to codify Roe v. Wade into law.

Biden, on follow-up, said "right to privacy, not just abortion rights."
 
2022-06-30 4:21:05 PM  
https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1542526344998768647

This Supreme Court is hell bent on turning back the clock and ignoring reality. Now, they have kneecapped the federal government's ability to tackle climate change.

Today, I'm signing a $54 BILLION climate-fighting plan. CA will keep leading the way.
 
2022-06-30 4:22:12 PM  

JulieAzel626: JulieAzel626: JulieAzel626: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-radical-voting-rights-theory_n_62bdbb0ae4b00a9334e53b49

Supreme Court Will Hear Case On Radical Voting Rights Theory

A case brought by North Carolina Republicans could wipe out protections against extreme partisan gerrymandering and endanger voting rights.

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1542560060768825344

The case "could effectively give all electoral authority to state legislatures, including in the approval of the winner of the state's Electoral College electors."

What could possibly go wrong?

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1542520610290446337

The Supreme Court has granted cert to Moore v. Harper (the "independent state legislature doctrine" case), meaning it will decide next term whether state legislatures (and not courts) have sole jurisdiction over election law.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1542581828648943617

Hard to overstate what a radical step this would be, given that many swing-state legislatures are gerrymandered in ways that self-perpetuate GOP control. Would decimate checks and balances.


https://twitter.com/mawaldman/status/1542546761486680064

SCOTUS took the case today that asks whether state legislatures have sole power over election rules. That notion is extreme, historically imaginary, chaotic. If it succeeds it's one of the most radical power grabs ever. No role for courts, state constitutions, governors, etc.

The Elections Clause is in the Constitution precisely to limit the power of legislatures to act without checks and balances. It aimed to stop gerrymandering and rigged voting rules. (Literally.)

James Madison insisted at Con Con: "It was impossible to foresee all the abuses ... Whenever the State Legislatures had a favorite measure to carry, they would take care so as to mould their regulations as to favor the candidates they wished to succeed."
 
2022-06-30 4:23:18 PM  
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-06-30/independent-state-legislature-theory-election-chaos

Op-Ed: A debunked legal theory could be used to turn our elections chaos

The "independent state legislature theory" would leave state courts, constitutions and others powerless to stop voter suppression.
 
2022-06-30 4:24:12 PM  

JulieAzel626: We're a normal country.

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1542570944027365383

In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Thomas expresses support for a debunked claim that all Covid vaccines are made with cells from "aborted children."


https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1542588363127066630

This man has lost his marbles. He sees abortion under every bush and behind every tree.
 
2022-06-30 4:24:45 PM  
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1542525374235643904

We have to codify Roe v. Wade into law.

And as I said this morning: If the filibuster gets in the way, then we need to make an exception to get it done.
 
2022-06-30 4:25:24 PM  
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1542529301744160769

Undoing Roe is awful. Kneecapping environmental regulation is existential. This Supreme Court has just come down on the side of civilizational collapse.
 
2022-06-30 4:25:46 PM  
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1542469125733339138

Rep Liz Cheney speech in California last night:

"... to the little girls and to the young women who are watching tonight: these days, for the most part, men are running the world, and it's really not going all that well"
 
2022-06-30 4:26:09 PM  
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1542535979952705536

McConnell calls Biden's comments on SCOTUS "dangerous." "Attacking a core American institution like the Supreme Court from the world stage is below the dignity of the President," he said in a statement.
 
2022-06-30 4:26:52 PM  
https://twitter.com/harrylitman/status/1542319401931657218

A small but important detail that shouldn't get lost in the tsunami of revelations. Cipollone has to go to Hutchinson to plead with her to tell Meadows not to let Trump to the capital because Meadow's not responding to him.
 
2022-06-30 4:27:16 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-crime-donald-trump-congress-government-and-politics-bb9efcbca309c3acb66e9c6d8a13657d

WASHINGTON (AP) - About half of Americans believe former President Donald Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the U.S. Capitol attack on Jan.


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2022-06-30 4:27:24 PM  
https://twitter.com/OliviaTroye/status/1542236497239310337

Tony Ornato sure seems to deny conversations he's apparently had. First this one with Keith Kellogg in "I Alone Can Fix It" & now he's denying the story he told Cassidy Hutchinson. Those of us who worked w/ Tony know where his loyalties lie. He should testify under oath.
 
2022-06-30 4:27:59 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://twitter.com/OliviaTroye/status/1542236497239310337

Tony Ornato sure seems to deny conversations he's apparently had. First this one with Keith Kellogg in "I Alone Can Fix It" & now he's denying the story he told Cassidy Hutchinson. Those of us who worked w/ Tony know where his loyalties lie. He should testify under oath.


https://twitter.com/Alyssafarah/status/1542247899383402498

Tony Ornato lied about me too. During the protests at Lafayette sq in 2020, I told Mark Meadows & Ornato they needed to warn press staged there before clearing the square. Meadows replied: "we aren't doing that." Tony later lied &said the exchange never happened. He knows it did.
 
2022-06-30 4:28:46 PM  
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/suspected-truck-driver-texas-migrant-deaths-was-meth-lawmaker-says-2022-06-30/

The suspected driver of a truck packed with dozens of migrants who died in blazing heat during a Texas smuggling attempt was allegedly under the influence of methamphetamine when police encountered him, a U.S. lawmaker told Reuters, citing information from law enforcement.
 
2022-06-30 4:29:13 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1542502510182764544

President Biden just called for a carveout exception to the Senate filibuster to codify Roe v. Wade into law.

Biden, on follow-up, said "right to privacy, not just abortion rights."


Good.
 
2022-06-30 4:29:26 PM  
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/futures-tumble-last-day-torrid-first-half-growth-fears-2022-06-30/

Wall Street ended the session lower on Thursday, crossing the finish line of a grim month and quarter, a dismal coda to the S&P 500's worst first half in more than half a century.
 
2022-06-30 4:31:35 PM  
Heh, nice thread number for today!  - 12444420
 
2022-06-30 4:36:38 PM  
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2022-06-30 4:42:16 PM  
I imagine SOMEONE has to post this
Tom Lehrer - Smut - LIVE FILM From Copenhagen in 1967
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2022-06-30 4:45:02 PM  
Nicolle Wallace asking how could the supreme court redeem its image --- here's what I think needs to happen:

45** gets indicted, convicted and thrown in jail
ALL of the judges appointed by 45** need to undergo review, and for the supremes and maybe the next two levels down in the heirarchy, all of 45**'s appointees need to be BOOTED OUT and NEW judges appointed.
 
2022-06-30 4:45:18 PM  
Video

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1542609070003191808

Trump loyalists are working overtime to discredit ALL of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony based on a dispute over one aspect of what she had to say.

Jake Tapper takes 5 good minutes to break down the facts & how they impact her role in the investigation:
 
2022-06-30 4:47:15 PM  
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Uh, thanks. With all these alarms, it's unusable NOW.
 
2022-06-30 4:48:23 PM  
https://twitter.com/LeaderMcConnell/status/1542600738823618564

Let me be perfectly clear: there will be no bipartisan USICA as long as Democrats are pursuing a partisan reconciliation bill.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1542601762292604931

Threat with big implications from McConnell: He is warning that GOP won't back a bipartisan deal to bolster US industrial competitiveness with China if Democrats keep pursuing legislation to advance their party's economic agenda through the filibuster-proof reconciliation process.

The competitiveness bill has been the subject of negotiations for months and includes funding for the development of semiconducter chips that are in short supply. House and Senate Dems have been at odds over the proposal, but McConnell's threat could sink the effort altogther.

McConnell's threat comes as Dems are still in talks over a bill that would include capping the price of some prescription drugs -- as well as potentially energy/climate and health provisions -- through reconciliation, which allows them to pass bill along straight party lines.
 
2022-06-30 4:52:49 PM  
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1542604801036455937

NEWS: The Jan. 6 select committee has interviewed Trump White House aide Tony ORNATO twice, once in January, once in March.

His answers in the Jan. interview drew skepticism from the panel and is partly behind some members' efforts to attack his credibility.

Among things Ornato told the committee in Jan:

-Trump may not have known Pence was in the Capitol when he tweeted his 2:24pm attack on the VP. That's partly because, Ornato said, he had told Meadows (incorrectly) that Pence had been evacuated to his residence.

It's unclear why Ornato was led to believe Pence had gone to the residence or how long it took to correct it.

The panel also asked Ornato whether Trump could have more forecfully told rioters to go home at 3:13pm, when he instead urged them to "remain peaceful" (the violence had gone on for hours).

Ornato said Trump had done everything he could and nothing he did/said would have helped.

Details from Ornato's first interview come amid an effort by the committee to portray him as unreliable. Anonymously sourced reports suggest Ornato is prepared to testify that a key element of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was false -- but Ornato has not spoken publicly yet.
 
2022-06-30 4:56:07 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://abc7.com/sports/usc-ucla-considering-move-from-pac-12-to-big-ten-as-early-as-2024/12006612/

USC and UCLA, two of the Pac-12's flagship programs, are considering leaving the conference for the Big Ten as early as 2024.


That would mean games at 9:30am or pm. That would stink for midwest teams having to do that week in and week out.

The Big12 has been talking to Arizona State and Arizona on the quiet for a couple years.
Now the rumors that those 2, plus Colorado and Utah will head to the Big12.
The Oregon and Washington schools may soon follow to the Big12 since they weren't offered by the Big10
 
2022-06-30 4:56:41 PM  

JulieAzel626: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1542604801036455937

NEWS: The Jan. 6 select committee has interviewed Trump White House aide Tony ORNATO twice, once in January, once in March.

His answers in the Jan. interview drew skepticism from the panel and is partly behind some members' efforts to attack his credibility.

Among things Ornato told the committee in Jan:

-Trump may not have known Pence was in the Capitol when he tweeted his 2:24pm attack on the VP. That's partly because, Ornato said, he had told Meadows (incorrectly) that Pence had been evacuated to his residence.

It's unclear why Ornato was led to believe Pence had gone to the residence or how long it took to correct it.

The panel also asked Ornato whether Trump could have more forecfully told rioters to go home at 3:13pm, when he instead urged them to "remain peaceful" (the violence had gone on for hours).

Ornato said Trump had done everything he could and nothing he did/said would have helped.

Details from Ornato's first interview come amid an effort by the committee to portray him as unreliable. Anonymously sourced reports suggest Ornato is prepared to testify that a key element of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was false -- but Ornato has not spoken publicly yet.


I sure hope Liz Cheney is setting up what I hope she is setting up
Pleasepleaseplease
 
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