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2022-06-30 9:57:17 AM  
$6 not $2. Had to deal with dumbasses who couldn't read back when I worked at crappy tire. They'd get irate so you'd have to go get a flyer and read along with them. I guess it was good practice for being a parent and teaching my kid to read.
 
2022-06-30 10:06:03 AM  
They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.
 
2022-06-30 10:13:14 AM  

mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.


A resourceful person in need can get an Orange Pi, Odroid or other SBC with their own Raspian boot image.
 
2022-06-30 10:14:35 AM  

SansNeural: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

A resourceful person in need can get an Orange Pi, Odroid or other SBC with their own Raspian boot image.


Sorry... Armbian image.
 
2022-06-30 11:01:39 AM  

SansNeural: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

A resourceful person in need can get an Orange Pi, Odroid or other SBC with their own Raspian boot image.


I have a 3 I can (and did once) use in a pinch, but I'd like a 4 so I have a direct replacement to just drop into the same case and restore a backup into real quickly if need be. Plus when I used the 3 temporarily as my backup HA server it worked but wasn't nearly as responsive. Just want a direct hardware replacement for backup rather than also get a new case, new power supply, etc... So if there's a problem I can fix it as quickly as possible with as minimum downtime as possible.

We've really gotten used to both the Pihole and the automations.
 
2022-06-30 12:17:19 PM  

mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.


The pico pis have been more or less available on amazon or any of the pi resellers for close to or at the US msrp.

Because they are more micro controller vs computer.
 
2022-06-30 12:19:34 PM  

mongbiohazard: SansNeural: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

A resourceful person in need can get an Orange Pi, Odroid or other SBC with their own Raspian boot image.

I have a 3 I can (and did once) use in a pinch, but I'd like a 4 so I have a direct replacement to just drop into the same case and restore a backup into real quickly if need be. Plus when I used the 3 temporarily as my backup HA server it worked but wasn't nearly as responsive. Just want a direct hardware replacement for backup rather than also get a new case, new power supply, etc... So if there's a problem I can fix it as quickly as possible with as minimum downtime as possible.

We've really gotten used to both the Pihole and the automations.


I'm mostly surprised at your implication that they can die. I've had a 4 running almost non-stop as a cheap NAS for about two years now without issue and before that it was a 2 for about 4 years, and I'm pretty sure the 2 would still boot up just fine if I bothered to dig it back out and do something with it
 
2022-06-30 1:17:50 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: mongbiohazard: SansNeural: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

A resourceful person in need can get an Orange Pi, Odroid or other SBC with their own Raspian boot image.

I have a 3 I can (and did once) use in a pinch, but I'd like a 4 so I have a direct replacement to just drop into the same case and restore a backup into real quickly if need be. Plus when I used the 3 temporarily as my backup HA server it worked but wasn't nearly as responsive. Just want a direct hardware replacement for backup rather than also get a new case, new power supply, etc... So if there's a problem I can fix it as quickly as possible with as minimum downtime as possible.

We've really gotten used to both the Pihole and the automations.

I'm mostly surprised at your implication that they can die. I've had a 4 running almost non-stop as a cheap NAS for about two years now without issue and before that it was a 2 for about 4 years, and I'm pretty sure the 2 would still boot up just fine if I bothered to dig it back out and do something with it


About 3 months ago my buddy's Raspberry Pi running his Pihole died, and he had to scramble to pay too much to replace it. It happens. Everything dies eventually. Raspberry Pi's are no exception.

Anything I deem "mission critical" for our house I like to make sure I have a backup. I do my own media streaming through Plex, so I have identical two backups for my NAS/streaming server so if one goes down we can just switch to one of the others while I'm fixing the issue.

And we've really gotten used to the automations and network-wide ad blocking, so I'm needing contingencies for them. Plus, I mounted the HA server up at the top of one of our windows so it would get better Zigbee networking and get a signal from my bluetooth soil sensors in the yard than it did in it's original spot in my networking closet (moving it worked like a charm), so it's always possible the temp fluctuations it gets up there will reduce the lifespan. Not moving it from there though, as it can't connect to those bluetooth soil sensors from pretty much anywhere else in my house.
 
2022-06-30 1:45:55 PM  

mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.


I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".
 
2022-06-30 2:10:24 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".


I don't know how good of a guide it is, but I did find one on Youtube for you.

I think I used a written guide to set up my Pihole, and then just needed to plug the Pihole's IP (make sure it's a fixed IP) into my router's DNS provider slot. I update my blocklists like once a month.

And yeah, probably got a bad list or something. One thing to keep in mind is that a Pihole can no longer block ads on Youtube without just blocking Youtube entirely. Google changed the way that ads are handled on Youtube some years back, to a way that Piholes can't block (probably hosted on the Youtube domain or something, I forget the specifics). I'm a Youtube Premium subscriber, which is a nice way to eliminate the ads since it also pays the creators for my views too - but costs you monthly.

There's some ads which slip past, but the vast majority get blocked - even in aps on my phone and even some on my Roku. When I'm somewhere outside of my house the internet gets noticeably messier.
 
2022-06-30 4:00:40 PM  

mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".

I don't know how good of a guide it is, but I did find one on Youtube for you.

I think I used a written guide to set up my Pihole, and then just needed to plug the Pihole's IP (make sure it's a fixed IP) into my router's DNS provider slot. I update my blocklists like once a month.

And yeah, probably got a bad list or something. One thing to keep in mind is that a Pihole can no longer block ads on Youtube without just blocking Youtube entirely. Google changed the way that ads are handled on Youtube some years back, to a way that Piholes can't block (probably hosted on the Youtube domain or something, I forget the specifics). I'm a Youtube Premium subscriber, which is a nice way to eliminate the ads since it also pays the creators for my views too - but costs you monthly.

There's some ads which slip past, but the vast majority get blocked - even in aps on my phone and even some on my Roku. When I'm somewhere outside of my house the internet gets noticeably messier.


Thanks, I'll take a look.

I've considered a YouTube subscription but it doesn't sit with me very well; giving money to a company that is more than happy to show me ads bordering on pornography (these old photos left little to the imagination!), the smarmiest ads of a British voiceover spewing lies about fat, diabetes, and all other quack cures in the sleazy ONE WEIRD TRICK cesspool.

Now I'm getting ads currying favor with 'Concealed Carry White Supremacist Heroes'. Beyond insulting given that I'll probably end up being murdered by one of those scum.

Should we really be giving even more money to these garbage people slinging these garbage ads?
 
2022-06-30 4:14:39 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".

I don't know how good of a guide it is, but I did find one on Youtube for you.

I think I used a written guide to set up my Pihole, and then just needed to plug the Pihole's IP (make sure it's a fixed IP) into my router's DNS provider slot. I update my blocklists like once a month.

And yeah, probably got a bad list or something. One thing to keep in mind is that a Pihole can no longer block ads on Youtube without just blocking Youtube entirely. Google changed the way that ads are handled on Youtube some years back, to a way that Piholes can't block (probably hosted on the Youtube domain or something, I forget the specifics). I'm a Youtube Premium subscriber, which is a nice way to eliminate the ads since it also pays the creators for my views too - but costs you monthly.

There's some ads which slip past, but the vast majority get blocked - even in aps on my phone and even some on my Roku. When I'm somewhere outside of my house the internet gets noticeably messier.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

I've considered a YouTube subscription but it doesn't sit with me very well; giving money to a company that is more than happy to show me ads bordering on pornography (these old photos left little to the imagination!), the smarmiest ads of a British voiceover spewing lies about fat, diabetes, and all other quack cures in the sleazy ONE WEIRD TRICK cesspool.

Now I'm getting ads currying favor with 'Concealed Carry White Supremacist Heroes'. Beyond insulting given that I'll probably end up being murdered by one of those scum.

Should we really be giving even more money to these garbage people slinging these garbage ads?


I subscribe so I don't have to see any ads. AND I still support the people who create the content I like, since they get paid for subscriber views. That's like the whole point of a premium membership, so that the content creators don't have to only rely on ads and so you don't have to see them.

The ad market in general is skeevy, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2022-06-30 5:33:08 PM  

mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".

I don't know how good of a guide it is, but I did find one on Youtube for you.

I think I used a written guide to set up my Pihole, and then just needed to plug the Pihole's IP (make sure it's a fixed IP) into my router's DNS provider slot. I update my blocklists like once a month.

And yeah, probably got a bad list or something. One thing to keep in mind is that a Pihole can no longer block ads on Youtube without just blocking Youtube entirely. Google changed the way that ads are handled on Youtube some years back, to a way that Piholes can't block (probably hosted on the Youtube domain or something, I forget the specifics). I'm a Youtube Premium subscriber, which is a nice way to eliminate the ads since it also pays the creators for my views too - but costs you monthly.

There's some ads which slip past, but the vast majority get blocked - even in aps on my phone and even some on my Roku. When I'm somewhere outside of my house the internet gets noticeably messier.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

I've considered a YouTube subscription but it doesn't sit with me very well; giving money to a company that is more than happy to show me ads bordering on pornography (these old photos left little to the imagination!), the smarmiest ads of a British voiceover spewing lies about fat, diabetes, and all other quack cures in the sleazy ONE WEIRD TRICK cesspool.

Now I'm getting ads currying favor with 'Concealed Carry White Supremacist Heroes'. Beyond insulting given that I'll probably end up being murdered by one of those scum.

Should we really be giving even more money to these garbage people slinging these garbage ads?

I subscribe so I don't have to see any ads. AND I still support the people who create the content I like, since they get paid for subscriber views. That's like the whole point of a premium membership, so that the content creators don't have to only rely on ads and so you don't have to see them.

The ad market in general is skeevy, as far as I'm concerned.


No, I get your point but either decision puts more filthy lucre into Google's overflowing vaults. And given the ads they're allowing, I don't think they're full-throated defenders of truth and democracy.

A direct payment and viewing system cutting out the middleman seems more amenable but riding herd on separate subscriptions would be annoying too.
 
2022-06-30 5:36:17 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: mongbiohazard: They'll probably sell out in minutes. Raspberry Pi's in general are in short supply these days. I want to buy another Raspberry Pi 4 or two, I've got a Pihole and Home Assistant Server both running on 4's that I'd like to get a backup for, but the prices for what you can find out there are crazy.

I tried PiHole on my pfsense box. All I accomplished was preventing ALL YouTube videos from loading and playing. Obviously I had something set wrong, but unlike a nice step by step tutorial on (ironically) YouTube I used for setting up pfsense, I've never come across a "PiHole for pfsense Dummies".

I don't know how good of a guide it is, but I did find one on Youtube for you.

I think I used a written guide to set up my Pihole, and then just needed to plug the Pihole's IP (make sure it's a fixed IP) into my router's DNS provider slot. I update my blocklists like once a month.

And yeah, probably got a bad list or something. One thing to keep in mind is that a Pihole can no longer block ads on Youtube without just blocking Youtube entirely. Google changed the way that ads are handled on Youtube some years back, to a way that Piholes can't block (probably hosted on the Youtube domain or something, I forget the specifics). I'm a Youtube Premium subscriber, which is a nice way to eliminate the ads since it also pays the creators for my views too - but costs you monthly.

There's some ads which slip past, but the vast majority get blocked - even in aps on my phone and even some on my Roku. When I'm somewhere outside of my house the internet gets noticeably messier.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

I've considered a YouTube subscription but it doesn't sit with me very well; giving money to a company that is more than happy to show me ads bordering on pornography (these old photos left little to the imagination!), the smarmiest ads of a British voiceover spewing lies about fat, diabetes, and all other quack cures in the sleazy ONE WEIRD TRICK cesspool.

Now I'm getting ads currying favor with 'Concealed Carry White Supremacist Heroes'. Beyond insulting given that I'll probably end up being murdered by one of those scum.

Should we really be giving even more money to these garbage people slinging these garbage ads?

I subscribe so I don't have to see any ads. AND I still support the people who create the content I like, since they get paid for subscriber views. That's like the whole point of a premium membership, so that the content creators don't have to only rely on ads and so you don't have to see them.

The ad market in general is skeevy, as far as I'm concerned.

No, I get your point but either decision puts more filthy lucre into Google's overflowing vaults. And given the ads they're allowing, I don't think they're full-throated defenders of truth and democracy.

A direct payment and viewing system cutting out the middleman seems more amenable but riding herd on separate subscriptions would be annoying too.


Linus Sebastian has put out a video or two explaining his channel's finances, and it was very interesting. If you want to support creators buying their merch is also good, that's why they all put up merch stores. But then you gotta watch the ads.

I don't really think Google is any skeevier than any company I've ever worked with really, or any big mainstream American corporation in general. The US has an absolutely toxic corporate culture.
 
2022-06-30 6:41:10 PM  
Cool, this will compete well with the ESP32-C3s. However, it's disappointing that there doesn't seem to be Bluetooth support, at least at launch, even though the chip supports it.

I recently got back into messing with microcontrollers after a decade-long break and was delighted at what is now available. There's pretty much no reason to be using something like an AVR except for super-low power consumption or high-volume cost. The Pico was especially exciting, since they RP2040 chip is much less expensive than an Atmega328 but pretty much 20x faster with 100x the ram. The Pico itself is only slightly more expensive than just the Atmega chip.

I have an 'old' Teensy 3.1 72mhz w/ 64k memory and that was quite a hot rod at the time.  Now the Teensy 4.1 has a freaking 600mhz clock w/ 1MB sram (w/ FPU, superscalar, branch prediction, support for external PSRAM, etc).
 
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