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(CBC)   Citing global travel resurgence, and that people are returning to flying at a rate never seen in the industry, Air Canada decides to reduce its number of flights by 15% for July and August   (cbc.ca) divider line
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624 clicks; posted to Main » on 30 Jun 2022 at 7:30 AM (14 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-06-30 7:35:02 AM  
Reduce the number of flights and increase the prices by 30% due to "unforseen demand" in flights.
You get to piss off the customers who can do nothing about it and stick it to the working poors by laying them off while the big wigs and share holders get fat pay days.
Its genius.
 
2022-06-30 7:35:04 AM  
A lot of pilots retired early during the pandemic, and there's no one to replace them.
 
2022-06-30 7:36:51 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: A lot of pilots retired early during the pandemic, and there's no one to replace them.


Bring a pilot used to be a well paying job but that hasn't been true for a while. Crazy coincidence, I'm sure.
 
2022-06-30 7:48:03 AM  
Is that how popularity works?
 
2022-06-30 7:57:35 AM  

Invincible: Tyrone Slothrop: A lot of pilots retired early during the pandemic, and there's no one to replace them.

Bring a pilot used to be a well paying job but that hasn't been true for a while. Crazy coincidence, I'm sure.


Commercial jet pilots get something like 150k/year.  They're fine.  The problem is the little leagues... a regional commuter plane pilot would be lucky to get 50k.  They're mostly flying to keep their hours up while they hope to get a job flying the big planes.
 
2022-06-30 8:01:55 AM  

Invincible: Tyrone Slothrop: A lot of pilots retired early during the pandemic, and there's no one to replace them.

Bring a pilot used to be a well paying job but that hasn't been true for a while. Crazy coincidence, I'm sure.


Airlines are little more than busses in the sky. Hell, a major builder of aircraft is even called Airbus. While I'm sure being a bus driver used to be a well paying job back when we had unions, why should we pay pilots more than burger flippers? And besides, they are going to be replaced with self-flying tech anyway

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2022-06-30 8:04:35 AM  
People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.
 
2022-06-30 8:06:27 AM  
Air Canada "We're not happy 'til you're not happy" or

"We hate to fly and it shows!"
 
2022-06-30 8:08:29 AM  
The pandemic isn't over, you morons.  All the flight crew are sick.
 
2022-06-30 8:10:29 AM  

Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.


I always fly Air Transat (goat class) when crossing the pond. Way cheaper.
 
2022-06-30 8:11:07 AM  

Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.


Air Canada's motto: "Why NOT pay more?"

I honestly don't understand why anyone books with them at all.  As for airports, I wish more flights departed from Hamilton to take some load of Pearson.  Then again, I wish we had a nice high speed rail system from Victoria to Fredericton (with affordable tickets).
 
2022-06-30 8:17:40 AM  

Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.


Because after Westjet's repeated farkups last year with rescheduling my red eye flight out East into first an evening flight the night before (adding a 6 hour layover at Pearson and wrecking all the initial arrangements for pet boarding), requiring 15 hours on hold over 2 days to get a hold of anyone to get it sorted by finally just moving me to the flight that left an hour earlier than the original, then cancelling the new flight, and then needing a further 15 hours on hold to be told there's nothing they can do makes me not want to ever use them ever again, then another 8 hours on hold demanding a refund that they didn't want to give except as a travel credit.
 
2022-06-30 8:21:04 AM  

Deathbymeteor: Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.

Because after Westjet's repeated farkups last year with rescheduling my red eye flight out East into first an evening flight the night before (adding a 6 hour layover at Pearson and wrecking all the initial arrangements for pet boarding), requiring 15 hours on hold over 2 days to get a hold of anyone to get it sorted by finally just moving me to the flight that left an hour earlier than the original, then cancelling the new flight, and then needing a further 15 hours on hold to be told there's nothing they can do makes me not want to ever use them ever again, then another 8 hours on hold demanding a refund that they didn't want to give except as a travel credit.


That's fair.  I've been a loyal Westjet customer since the days when they were competent, but in the last few years they've been trying really hard to be Air Canada.

/sorry, there aren't any Economy seats on this flight, only Premier and Assrapingly Deluxe, even though they're all the same farking seats
 
2022-06-30 8:22:07 AM  
Demand is up, revenue is up, but pay is down.  And no one wants to work!
 
2022-06-30 8:57:58 AM  
It tracks, once you realize that many businesses are somehow incapable of seeing back more than two quarters or planning ahead more than one.
 
2022-06-30 8:58:38 AM  
The pandemic isn't over. Stay your ass home.
 
2022-06-30 9:36:15 AM  
We had the unfortunate experience of traveling to Dublin on Air Canada just this past week. Flight going was delayed, and we had a tight turnaround in Montreal for the connection, so we booked my wife a wheelchair (she has bad knees); the chair was there when we got off the plane, but no one to help us out, so I had to push the chair and deal with all of the luggage - Imagine if she had been traveling alone? And their connecting flight process is the absolute stupidest - you have to basically exit the airport, all the way out through customs and baggage, before starting over at the security checkpoint.

Of course, our bags didn't make the connection. So we got to spend our first day in Dublin trying to find replacement clothes to wear for our upcoming bus trip. And we didn't hear a peep from anyone at AC for nearly a week about the missing bags, despite multiple emails/tweets/etc. And when they finally did arrive, my wife's bag was damaged and soaked through with rain water.
 
2022-06-30 9:52:11 AM  

Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.


Last time stupidly I flew Air Canada, summer 2019 BTW, I had connecting flights both ways with the trip starting  from another airline. First way Air Canada kept delaying my flight with them then canceled it just after midnight, and the agents said they could not even offer hotels for those affected stuck between connections, the plane had not even taken off from its previous airport when I checked.

When I was going back, the Air Canada portion was a connecting flight where I was going to have to change planes, the first plane was delayed, and did not take off until after the connecting flight had departed its airport.
 
2022-06-30 10:08:33 AM  
FTFA: "Montreal and Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Kelowna"

They ran direct flights between these pairs of cities?  Really?  I shouldn't think there are 10 people a year who would use these....
 
2022-06-30 10:16:28 AM  

cnocnanrionnag: FTFA: "Montreal and Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Kelowna"

They ran direct flights between these pairs of cities?  Really?  I shouldn't think there are 10 people a year who would use these....


I can't get direct to Kelowna from anywhere in Canada, but I can get there from farking Baltimore?
 
2022-06-30 10:32:15 AM  

Numberlady2: Air Canada "We're not happy 'til you're not happy" or

"We hate to fly and it shows!"


Last time I flew to Canada I went with Air Canada, but didn't spot that the booking website I was using used Air Canada Rouge for the return trip. That's their cattle class airline. They didn't even have USB chargers in the seats!
 
2022-06-30 10:34:59 AM  
And this is yet another thread where the exact same issues happening in the UK are blamed on Brexit but when they happen anywhere else in the world that's different because reasons.
 
2022-06-30 10:36:11 AM  
For the luggage concerns I have now learned that anything 4 days or less I can get into my small carry-on backpack that fits under the seat in front of me.  Up to 10 days its the backpack and a small rollie that fits in the overhead.

Past ten days I will probably just visit a laundromat.

Screw waiting for my baggage just to find out its lost.
 
2022-06-30 10:47:11 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Bondith: People keep asking my why I don't fly Air Canada, especially when it means switch between two different airlines at two different airports to get where I'm going.

Because getting between Billy Bishop and Pearson on a weekend is must less hassle than dealing with Air Farking Canada.  The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.

Air Canada's motto: "Why NOT pay more?"

I honestly don't understand why anyone books with them at all.  As for airports, I wish more flights departed from Hamilton to take some load of Pearson.  Then again, I wish we had a nice high speed rail system from Victoria to Fredericton (with affordable tickets).


Personally, I choose Air Canada because I have never had an issue with them, even when things aren't working well. And you're not going to get a rail system from Vancouver to an eastern city to compete with the time an aircraft can cover it.
 
2022-06-30 11:56:36 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: A lot of pilots retired early during the pandemic, and there's no one to replace them.


There is also a severe lack of maintenance personnel. Too many years of not promoting the industry, low wages and lack of backfilling with apprentices.

Like the pilots, many retired and others just got tired of night shift and crappy wages.
 
2022-06-30 12:00:26 PM  

Bondith: The question really is why anyone still willingly chooses AC.


The rewards program is the biggest reason.
 
2022-06-30 12:03:46 PM  
Air Canada are useless. I'm trying to resolve something with them right now: the website tell me it can't be done online, call customer service. The customer service line isn't taking calls right now "due to unforeseen demand" and tells me to go to the website.

And they have the world's surliest flight attendants.
 
2022-06-30 12:56:45 PM  
For all types of pilots... (major and regional)
Various sources (including, CNBC, Regional Airline Association, others).


The global gap in pilots could reach between 34000 and 50000 by 2025.

US airlines are looking to hire about 12000 pilots this year.

About 13% of current pilots will reach retirement age within 5 years.

It's expected flight reductions will hit most commercial airlines to some degree (already happenning).
 
2022-06-30 4:56:41 PM  
You're all wrong, the baggage handling moose are all on strike. The airline refuses to give in to their lone demand - 2 poutine per shift. Greedy jerks, the rest of us only get 1 poutine per shift and we appreciates it.
 
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