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2022-06-29 12:26:37 PM  
DOUGLAS COUNTY, Colo. - Douglas County has a lot of things but doesn't have much in the way of services for people experiencing homelessness.
As the mostly suburban county sees more unhoused people coming there, the sheriff's office is starting a new program to take them back to places like Denver.
"There's literally no services for them to turn to here," said Republican Douglas County Sheriff Tony Spurlock. "If they have resources in Denver, we want to get them there. We want to help get them there."


Yes. Yes, this is about connecting your citizens, whose well-being is deeply, deeply important to you, to needed services that are critical to their health and safety. It's not your fault that your community has expended no effort on building capacity to support its own citizens in these regards. You can't help what your own community decides to spend its money on. No, you can only cast your eyes to your neighbors, who have allocated resources to help their own citizens, and trust that they, being good neighbors, will happily take your citizens in as well. After all, services to help homeless people -- many of whom have concurrent disorders such as severe mental health, substance misuse and addiction, and dire poverty -- can be messy and sometimes require that people actually see and recognize the homeless as actual human beings. We feel that this is an undue burden on our non-homeless population and would rather they continue to focus on the important things, like property value and whether the local HOA should require lawn mowing on a weekly or biweekly basis.
 
2022-06-29 12:32:37 PM  
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2022-06-29 12:33:38 PM  
Wonder if this strategy explains the rising a falling tide of homeless in some areas in L.A.
Some days it is like, where the hell did all these crazy people wandering in and yelling at traffic come from
 
2022-06-29 12:54:24 PM  
It has been a few months since I visited the Denver mission shelter to follow up with someone but it was already past capacity. Arvada just bought property for a shelter in JeffCo but Denver county is the only location with services right now and it is overwhelmed. DougCo needs to step up and provide services in DougCo instead of pawning off their failures to provide to Denver.
 
2022-06-29 12:58:46 PM  
Ahh, the 'ol one-way Greyhound ticket.
 
2022-06-29 1:02:12 PM  
"Praise GOP JESUS"

Look, if you read the gospels, you'll see that acting like Jesus doesn't actually mean working to provide meaningful services for the poor that improve their standard of living; It means telling other people to give to the poor and maybe conjuring a free picnic once a year or so.

/ 5/8ths sarcasm
 
2022-06-29 1:29:32 PM  
I've seen this movie. Don't buy anything from a roadside sausage stand in Douglas County.
 
2022-06-29 1:39:35 PM  
Turn them into cattle feed?

*clicks*

Oh.
 
2022-06-29 2:08:37 PM  
Go be poor somewhere else
 
2022-06-29 2:21:31 PM  
Oh, I saw this one! It doesn't end well for Brian Dennehy or the rest of the Hope PD.
 
2022-06-29 2:37:08 PM  
Yep.. .lots of cities do that to South Bend. We have a pretty good center for the homeless and infrastructure to help, so LOTS of cities end up buying the homeless greyhound tickets to SBN... then make it "our problem".

Now if the tickets to someplace where there was a job and stuff lined up for them, then that would be different, but as Notabunny said.. their solution is "go be poor somewhere else.".
 
2022-06-29 2:38:07 PM  
This is a good reason to keep church and govt separated.  The worst among us tend to use religion as weaponry and it's backed by law.
 
2022-06-29 2:39:13 PM  
There is already some of this effect without it being explicit. If you were homeless would you want to live out in the boonies where there's nothing for you or in a city where you might get a handout?
 
2022-06-29 2:40:44 PM  
If every municipality would just ship their homeless away, somewhere else, anywhere else, this problem would quickly be solved!

/What do you mean we're "somewhere else" for them?
 
2022-06-29 2:41:34 PM  

Mattix: Yep.. .lots of cities do that to South Bend. We have a pretty good center for the homeless and infrastructure to help, so LOTS of cities end up buying the homeless greyhound tickets to SBN... then make it "our problem".

Now if the tickets to someplace where there was a job and stuff lined up for them, then that would be different, but as Notabunny said.. their solution is "go be poor somewhere else.".


People who are homeless aren't the problem.  People who call them a problem are.
 
2022-06-29 2:41:48 PM  
Feed them to piranhas?
 
2022-06-29 2:42:03 PM  
So just get a fleet of sleeper busses and we can keep bussing the homeless back and forth all the time & they can live in sleeper busses.

Anything but addressing the issue
 
2022-06-29 2:42:47 PM  
So, they saw that South Park episode too?
/ Night of the Living Homeless
// Don't solve the problem, just move it.
 
2022-06-29 2:42:51 PM  
Mexico Lite
 
2022-06-29 2:42:54 PM  
"We don't just put them on a bus, or we just don't drive them to the city limits and boot them off," said Spurlock.

Spoiler: That's exactly what they're doing.
 
2022-06-29 2:42:54 PM  
The usual "Fark you, I got mine" conservative sense of values. Burn the city down.
 
2022-06-29 2:43:38 PM  

Mattix: Yep.. .lots of cities do that to South Bend. We have a pretty good center for the homeless and infrastructure to help, so LOTS of cities end up buying the homeless greyhound tickets to SBN... then make it "our problem".

Now if the tickets to someplace where there was a job and stuff lined up for them, then that would be different, but as Notabunny said.. their solution is "go be poor somewhere else.".


Ah, you are forgetting the best part of their plan. Go be homeless elsewhere AND vote GOP because look at the increase in homeless over there in the lawless city.

Fascism, great at bad faith arguments, shiatty at solving problems or being human.
 
2022-06-29 2:44:01 PM  
California Homeless Song Uncut - South Park
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2022-06-29 2:44:01 PM  
After getting an earful from unhappy community members, commissioners decided to put that plan on hold.

Ties that bind us:  NIMBYs can be progressives and conservatives.
 
2022-06-29 2:44:11 PM  
I think this is what my Aunt means when she says the homeless problem in Seattle is due to Liberals.

I think what she means is that someone won't find a Final Solution to the problem of making her have to see homeless people.
 
2022-06-29 2:44:33 PM  
Plus this way all the blame for homelessness can be placed squarely on liberal cities, not good God fearing country folk
 
2022-06-29 2:44:33 PM  
Did I read that right as "Transport them to Texas where they will be hunted for sport" or am I just projecting the current news cycle?
 
2022-06-29 2:46:18 PM  
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Denver straight ahead!
 
2022-06-29 2:48:11 PM  
And then Republicans will complain about the homeless problem in Democrat run Denver?
 
2022-06-29 2:48:19 PM  
Typical conservative Christians.
 
2022-06-29 2:49:00 PM  
Could you imagine the apoplectic rage shiatting that would happen if you took the homeless population of Los Angeles and gave them 1-way bus tickets to Conservative municipalities?

But of course, they are all for sending their needy to the cities, then biatching about how "liberal cities" have such a homelessness problem.
 
2022-06-29 2:50:21 PM  
We have to fight fire with fire.  For every homeless they export, send them two.  And make the homeless we send them more violent and drugged up than the ones they send.
 
2022-06-29 2:51:50 PM  

wax_on: There is already some of this effect without it being explicit. If you were homeless would you want to live out in the boonies where there's nothing for you or in a city where you might get a handout?


Castle Rock, the county seat for Douglas County, is less than 30 miles from the center of Denver.  DougCo is part of the Denver MSA.  It's not the boonies.  Solidly suburbs.
 
2022-06-29 2:52:37 PM  
I sat in an ER in my hometown after a spectacular mental break that left me jobless and homeless. They just kept saying they didn't have anything, or couldn't do anything, "unless I was suicidal". After three days of this, tucked in a corner of the ER with no windows, and basically being treated like an asshole because I came to a hospital for healthcare, I then tried to chew through my wrist.

I have a spectacular looking scar now.

After being told how dumb that was by everyone who witnessed it, I demanded my release. They then allowed me to leave, despite my obviously poor mental state. I found my way to Iowa City, a place flush with resources and one of the leading medical colleges in the nation.

I've now been steadily employed and living under a roof for a year now. Two weeks ago, I met a wonderful lady, and so far it is the healthiest and happiest relationship I've been in.

My point is, without these resources, I wouldn't be alive. I'm not saying the sheriff is right, but I understand. I've seen the results of a city/county that has no homeless shelters and poor mental health care. It's ugly. Getting these people to a place where there is help is the best move.
 
2022-06-29 2:53:05 PM  
not available in europia, but I've got the gist from fred.

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2022-06-29 2:53:25 PM  
Deputies would drive people to Denver or Colorado Springs to connect them with resources not available in Douglas County.

This article almost owes me a new keyboard.

Like COS has services for homeless people.  What are they going to do?  just put them in a barrel at the top of monument hill and let them roll down?

I don't really blame Douglas County, it's mostly commuter space between COS and Denver.  But even so, sending people to COS for services is ridiculous.

/lived there for almost a decade
 
2022-06-29 2:56:11 PM  

chewd: So just get a fleet of sleeper busses and we can keep bussing the homeless back and forth all the time & they can live in sleeper busses.

Anything but addressing the issue


They'd be rolling toilets covered in graffiti within a week or two
 
2022-06-29 2:57:02 PM  
A quick bit of perspective, there are only a handful of homeless there, like a few dozen, so outsourcing make sense for all concerned.  I live in a very similar county, very rich, very small homeless population.  A few years ago, the homeless count "skyrocketed" almost 50%, from 16 to 23, in a county of over 300,000 people.  We do actually have a homeless shelter though.  Last year's count was 80, or about 0.02%.
 
2022-06-29 2:57:39 PM  
What an interesting new take on the old "ride to the city limits."

No thanks. We've got enough down here. Take care of your homeless people on your own dime Douglas County.
 
2022-06-29 2:58:09 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We have to fight fire with fire.  For every homeless they export, send them two.  And make the homeless we send them more violent and drugged up than the ones they send.


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2022-06-29 2:58:44 PM  
I mean if they dropped off a pile of cash for denver to actually help the people then I would say it would be a reasonably more efficient solution.

These people want some sort of final solution I suspecy
 
2022-06-29 2:59:46 PM  

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I have never liked that.

It is not and has never been a Christian nation. So, let's not hypothesize about irrelevant what-ifs to dance around pointing out the fact that some people are delusion hypocrites.
 
2022-06-29 3:00:41 PM  

west.la.lawyer: Wonder if this strategy explains the rising a falling tide of homeless in some areas in L.A.
Some days it is like, where the hell did all these crazy people wandering in and yelling at traffic come from


Geographically, all over the US.  Not so geographically, from your good friends at...
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2022-06-29 3:03:04 PM  
Sounds like a growth place for the Rainbow Family to visit for a summer and teach the homeless people how to build shelters and outdoor stoves.
 
2022-06-29 3:05:46 PM  

bittermang: I sat in an ER in my hometown after a spectacular mental break that left me jobless and homeless. They just kept saying they didn't have anything, or couldn't do anything, "unless I was suicidal". After three days of this, tucked in a corner of the ER with no windows, and basically being treated like an asshole because I came to a hospital for healthcare, I then tried to chew through my wrist.

I have a spectacular looking scar now.

After being told how dumb that was by everyone who witnessed it, I demanded my release. They then allowed me to leave, despite my obviously poor mental state. I found my way to Iowa City, a place flush with resources and one of the leading medical colleges in the nation.

I've now been steadily employed and living under a roof for a year now. Two weeks ago, I met a wonderful lady, and so far it is the healthiest and happiest relationship I've been in.

My point is, without these resources, I wouldn't be alive. I'm not saying the sheriff is right, but I understand. I've seen the results of a city/county that has no homeless shelters and poor mental health care. It's ugly. Getting these people to a place where there is help is the best move.


Glad to hear things are working out for you. Best of luck in the future.

As much as a libby libby as I am, Maine does something similar and it's hard to argue with. Mentally ill and homeless people in rural Maine don't have many options. It's been policy for as long as I've been aware, that such cases end up in Bangor, Augusta or Portland just because there are services there.
 
2022-06-29 3:05:50 PM  

bittermang: I sat in an ER in my hometown after a spectacular mental break that left me jobless and homeless. They just kept saying they didn't have anything, or couldn't do anything, "unless I was suicidal". After three days of this, tucked in a corner of the ER with no windows, and basically being treated like an asshole because I came to a hospital for healthcare, I then tried to chew through my wrist.

I have a spectacular looking scar now.

After being told how dumb that was by everyone who witnessed it, I demanded my release. They then allowed me to leave, despite my obviously poor mental state. I found my way to Iowa City, a place flush with resources and one of the leading medical colleges in the nation.

I've now been steadily employed and living under a roof for a year now. Two weeks ago, I met a wonderful lady, and so far it is the healthiest and happiest relationship I've been in.

My point is, without these resources, I wouldn't be alive. I'm not saying the sheriff is right, but I understand. I've seen the results of a city/county that has no homeless shelters and poor mental health care. It's ugly. Getting these people to a place where there is help is the best move.


I'm sorry you went through that. My sister and BIL are going through something similar with my suicidal nephew. No point in taking him to a hospital. Therapy isn't working. And anything more intensive than therapy is prohibitively expensive. God bless America.
 
2022-06-29 3:05:58 PM  

wax_on: There is already some of this effect without it being explicit. If you were homeless would you want to live out in the boonies where there's nothing for you or in a city where you might get a handout?


Which makes sense, except that in this instance "the boonies" - an admittedly wealthy boonies - is purposely making sure there's nothing for any homeless people, then using that as an excuse to ship them elsewhere so that they don't reduce property values.
 
2022-06-29 3:06:03 PM  

bighairyguy: A quick bit of perspective, there are only a handful of homeless there, like a few dozen, so outsourcing make sense for all concerned.  I live in a very similar county, very rich, very small homeless population.  A few years ago, the homeless count "skyrocketed" almost 50%, from 16 to 23, in a county of over 300,000 people.  We do actually have a homeless shelter though.  Last year's count was 80, or about 0.02%.


Sure a handful of homeless people doesn't seem like a big deal until you have every single suburban community doing the exact same thing. Then all those upper middle class suburbanites stare down their noses because the city is now full of homeless people.
 
2022-06-29 3:08:00 PM  

west.la.lawyer: Wonder if this strategy explains the rising a falling tide of homeless in some areas in L.A.
Some days it is like, where the hell did all these crazy people wandering in and yelling at traffic come from


Ever notice you never see the same homeless people twice in Burbank/Santa Clarita/Beverly Hills/Malibu?
 
2022-06-29 3:21:02 PM  
 All life is sacred.

/s
 
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