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(Yahoo)   Tesla lays off about 200 autopilot workers, most of them hourly. But since schedules vary, some all at once too   (finance.yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-06-29 1:39:07 PM  
Considering the massive labor shortages these days they won't be unemployed for long.
 
2022-06-29 7:10:07 PM  
hundreds of workers on its Autopilot team

Oh no!  Now Elon might not meet his prediction of having fully self-driving robo-taxis by 2019!
 
2022-06-29 7:15:13 PM  
Makes sense now that they've perfected autopilot. What more work could they achieve?
 
2022-06-29 7:29:45 PM  
As soon as Tesla made noise about forcing remote workers back to the office I immediately thought, 'Yeah... They just want to reduce numbers and that's an easy way'
 
2022-06-29 7:32:47 PM  
I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.
 
2022-06-29 7:45:15 PM  
Did they need these salaries to buy desks.
 
2022-06-29 7:53:53 PM  
The way it is supposed to work is that future cash flows are based on today's R and D, capital expenditures, etc.

A company that has had basically free capital for a decade, and the largesse of a man who wastes money making frivolous comments about frivolous decisions should have shown more than it has.

This is a failure. Really. At the very least, Tesla should put on the big boy pants and keep up R and D through a recession and add some value when its rivals are meeting their social responsibilities. I am sure Tesla will wait until everyone else has made the sacrifices, Then it will come back to suck the gravy of the next expansion.

Time for all the anti-capitalists to take some time to examine Tesla's behavior. Tesla is a free-rider on the public teat in every way imaginable.
 
2022-06-29 9:06:29 PM  
Since the Feds are taking the first step in forbidding autonomous vehicles, by "investigating" something that doesn't exist yet...
 
2022-06-29 9:31:43 PM  
We need federal legislation that bans layoffs or firings.  If a worker is bad, rubber room them.

Problem solved.
 
2022-06-29 9:56:07 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We need federal legislation that bans layoffs or firings.  If a worker is bad, rubber room them.

Problem solved.


You mean the Japanese way...
 
2022-06-29 10:08:19 PM  

Decorus: AmbassadorBooze: We need federal legislation that bans layoffs or firings.  If a worker is bad, rubber room them.

Problem solved.

You mean the Japanese way...


Corner office.

Maybe Edgelord Elon needs to hire some CCNP Network Analysts to buy some more AP's and fix the WiFi so people can work.

Good luck. One of my vendors is quoting 366 days for 9120AXI and 348 days for 9120AXE access points. Two other aren't much better,
 
2022-06-29 10:48:24 PM  
Were they escorted from the building or were they autofired and allowed to pilot their own way out, and if so, how many made it out the door and how many collided with the door frame and crashed to the floor?
 
2022-06-29 10:51:46 PM  
Another article says the San Mateo office is being closed.  Probably should have announced that first.
 
2022-06-29 11:07:17 PM  
Doing work that should be on Mechanical Turk and done in Indonesia sweat Internet cafes. Of course they closed the higher cost of living San Mateo location because Buffalo is miserable.
 
2022-06-29 11:28:15 PM  

inglixthemad: Did they need these salaries to buy desks.


I still can't get over the desk thing. I'm surprised more people aren't as outraged as I am about that. I mean...they didn't have enough desks. Not.Enough.Desks.
 
2022-06-29 11:52:54 PM  

2fardownthread: Tesla should put on the big boy pants and keep up R and D through a recession and add some value when its rivals are meeting their social responsibilities. I am sure Tesla will wait until everyone else has made the sacrifices, Then it will come back to suck the gravy of the next expansion.

Time for all the anti-capitalists to take some time to examine Tesla's behavior. Tesla is a free-rider on the public teat in every way imaginable.


Of all your unhinged rants, this might be the most unhinged. What in the actual fark are you talking about lol
 
2022-06-29 11:59:54 PM  

Decorus: AmbassadorBooze: We need federal legislation that bans layoffs or firings.  If a worker is bad, rubber room them.

Problem solved.

You mean the Japanese way...


They still manage it. One way they do it is by spinning off a branch into a separate division or even company, assigning people to that, and then closing it. You hear about it a lot.
 
2022-06-30 12:54:25 AM  

Decorus: AmbassadorBooze: We need federal legislation that bans layoffs or firings.  If a worker is bad, rubber room them.

Problem solved.

You mean the Japanese way...


Or NYC public schools way.

Whatever people want to call it.  But if we had stability the nation would be better.  Maybe people would work harder?  If they knew their job was stable.
 
2022-06-30 12:55:05 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.


If they're laying off employees working on autonomous driving, that clearly means they've solved all issues, so I'd be surprised if it takes a year.

Elon Musk and his companies have never lied about what they're going to do or what they're products are capable of.

Have they?
 
2022-06-30 1:39:44 AM  

iron de havilland: Rapmaster2000: I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.

If they're laying off employees working on autonomous driving, that clearly means they've solved all issues, so I'd be surprised if it takes a year.

Elon Musk and his companies have never lied about what they're going to do or what they're products are capable of.

Have they?


Car companies make and "break" promises all the time. I wonder why people get so upset when it's the company that only makes EVs? 🧐

Take Toyota for example. They promised solid state batteries by the Tokyo Olympics. The Olympics were delayed by over a year due to COVID, and they still didn't deliver. Instead of the batteries we were promised, they previewed a hydrogen engine Corolla that was "production ready" and slated for release "next year." They ran it in a 24-hour endurance race to prove how far along they were, but neglected to mention that it only went 29 miles per fill up and had so many hydrogen tanks stuffed into it that the driver couldn't see out of the back window. Akio Toyoda went on TV and triumphantly touted that the combustion engine and its beautiful sounds would live on, even in a carbon-free future. No one accused him of trying to goose the stock price. No one called BS on the clearly horseshiat prototype. The coverage was universally positive.

Part of the double standard has to do with advertising spend. Tesla spends nothing on advertising and Toyota spends billions. Part of it is propaganda. The oil industry and petrostates (specifically Russia) have spent a lot of money trying to turn public opinion against electric cars, more specifically Tesla and BYD.

Yes, the CEO is a lunatic and a jackass, but it's fascinating to me that a company pumping out hundreds of thousands of cobalt-free, nickel-free, low carbon footprint, medium-sized battery, 130mpge electric cars is so universally hated on an ostensibly liberal site.
 
2022-06-30 1:55:48 AM  

Likwit: iron de havilland: Rapmaster2000: I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.

If they're laying off employees working on autonomous driving, that clearly means they've solved all issues, so I'd be surprised if it takes a year.

Elon Musk and his companies have never lied about what they're going to do or what they're products are capable of.

Have they?

Car companies make and "break" promises all the time. I wonder why people get so upset when it's the company that only makes EVs? 🧐

Take Toyota for example. They promised solid state batteries by the Tokyo Olympics. The Olympics were delayed by over a year due to COVID, and they still didn't deliver. Instead of the batteries we were promised, they previewed a hydrogen engine Corolla that was "production ready" and slated for release "next year." They ran it in a 24-hour endurance race to prove how far along they were, but neglected to mention that it only went 29 miles per fill up and had so many hydrogen tanks stuffed into it that the driver couldn't see out of the back window. Akio Toyoda went on TV and triumphantly touted that the combustion engine and its beautiful sounds would live on, even in a carbon-free future. No one accused him of trying to goose the stock price. No one called BS on the clearly horseshiat prototype. The coverage was universally positive.

Part of the double standard has to do with advertising spend. Tesla spends nothing on advertising and Toyota spends billions. Part of it is propaganda. The oil industry and petrostates (specifically Russia) have spent a lot of money trying to turn public opinion against electric cars, more specifically Tesla and BYD.

Yes, the CEO is a lunatic and a jackass, but it's fascinating to me that a company pumping out hundreds of thousands of cobalt-free, nickel-free, low carbon footprint, medium-sized battery, 130mpge electric cars is so universally hated on an ostensibly liberal site.


South African Ass Hat.  I don't think I need to explain further.
 
2022-06-30 9:32:39 AM  

Decorus: Likwit: iron de havilland: Rapmaster2000: I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.

If they're laying off employees working on autonomous driving, that clearly means they've solved all issues, so I'd be surprised if it takes a year.

Elon Musk and his companies have never lied about what they're going to do or what they're products are capable of.

Have they?

Car companies make and "break" promises all the time. I wonder why people get so upset when it's the company that only makes EVs? 🧐

Take Toyota for example. They promised solid state batteries by the Tokyo Olympics. The Olympics were delayed by over a year due to COVID, and they still didn't deliver. Instead of the batteries we were promised, they previewed a hydrogen engine Corolla that was "production ready" and slated for release "next year." They ran it in a 24-hour endurance race to prove how far along they were, but neglected to mention that it only went 29 miles per fill up and had so many hydrogen tanks stuffed into it that the driver couldn't see out of the back window. Akio Toyoda went on TV and triumphantly touted that the combustion engine and its beautiful sounds would live on, even in a carbon-free future. No one accused him of trying to goose the stock price. No one called BS on the clearly horseshiat prototype. The coverage was universally positive.

Part of the double standard has to do with advertising spend. Tesla spends nothing on advertising and Toyota spends billions. Part of it is propaganda. The oil industry and petrostates (specifically Russia) have spent a lot of money trying to turn public opinion against electric cars, more specifically Tesla and BYD.

Yes, the CEO is a lunatic and a jackass, but it's fascinating to me that a company pumping out hundreds of thousands of cobalt-free, nickel-free, low carbon footprint, medium-sized battery, 130mpge electric cars is so universally hated on an ostensibly liberal site.

South African Ass Hat.  I don't think I need to explain further.


On the other paw of course, he did put a lot of money into Tesla early on and has drawn enormous attention to the company. Not saying he's a good person or anything but he's definitely helped kickstart the EV transition
 
2022-06-30 10:05:39 AM  

Karne: inglixthemad: Did they need these salaries to buy desks.

I still can't get over the desk thing. I'm surprised more people aren't as outraged as I am about that. I mean...they didn't have enough desks. Not.Enough.Desks.


They don't have enough network equipment either... Speaking as a network guy (granted, mostly security nowadays, but still) I have vendors quoting over a year for Cisco Access Points, and it doesn't matter if the quote is for 5 AP's or 500 AP's.
 
2022-06-30 11:24:09 PM  

Likwit: iron de havilland: Rapmaster2000: I hope this won't impact the robotaxi schedule.  Next year is totally the year.

If they're laying off employees working on autonomous driving, that clearly means they've solved all issues, so I'd be surprised if it takes a year.

Elon Musk and his companies have never lied about what they're going to do or what they're products are capable of.

Have they?

Car companies make and "break" promises all the time. I wonder why people get so upset when it's the company that only makes EVs? 🧐


Do any regular car manufacturers do it as frequently and publicly as your boy, though? To the point that it becomes a joke?

Take Toyota for example. They promised solid state batteries by the Tokyo Olympics. The Olympics were delayed by over a year due to COVID, and they still didn't deliver. Instead of the batteries we were promised, they previewed a hydrogen engine Corolla that was "production ready" and slated for release "next year." They ran it in a 24-hour endurance race to prove how far along they were, but neglected to mention that it only went 29 miles per fill up and had so many hydrogen tanks stuffed into it that the driver couldn't see out of the back window. Akio Toyoda went on TV and triumphantly touted that the combustion engine and its beautiful sounds would live on, even in a carbon-free future. No one accused him of trying to goose the stock price. No one called BS on the clearly horseshiat prototype. The coverage was universally positive.

Part of the double standard has to do with advertising spend. Tesla spends nothing on advertising and Toyota spends billions. Part of it is propaganda. The oil industry and petrostates (specifically Russia) have spent a lot of money trying to turn public opinion against electric cars, more specifically Tesla and BYD.

Yes, the CEO is a lunatic and a jackass, but it's fascinating to me that a company pumping out hundreds of thousands of cobalt-free, nickel-free, low carbon footprint, medium-sized battery, 130mpge electric cars is so universally hated on an ostensibly liberal site.


For me, it is because he is such a massive bellend, and his armies of fanbois are an embarrassment. Tesla did prove that EVs can work, can't wait to see the future when good car manufactures ramp up production.
 
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