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2022-06-28 7:34:39 PM  
I was walking in NYC and got worn out. stopped to get out of the press of people. the place I randomly stopped in was Stonewall. it was a double win. I rested and drank and visited a historic site.
 
2022-06-28 7:36:23 PM  
Stonewall was a riot.

Given the fact six people who think evangelical fundamentalism and their own bloody asspulls should rule the US are turning those rights into non-existence, we probably should have another one.

Alabama is suing to ban transgender therapy.
Tennessee just sued to overturn Obergfell
Texas is suing to overturn Lawrence
Mississippi, Kansas, and Texas are planning on suing to overturn griswold
And setting politicians are calling on people to refute Brown vs Board.

Make no mistake about it we about to see a return to pre-Stonewall Illegalization and persecution of LGBT people. We may even see the return of state-enforced conversion therapy, sterilization, and segregation.

For all the people that stood up over the past six years and said "I don't agree with who you are but I'll defend your right" - Nows the time. Do something. Anything.

Unless this was another lie.

And for all those people who said this wouldn't happen, we were just "being dramatic"? fark you. Die painfully and slow.

My state is looking to criminalize and invalidate my relationships.
 
2022-06-28 7:41:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: Alabama is suing to ban transgender therapy.
Tennessee just sued to overturn Obergfell
Texas is suing to overturn Lawrence
Mississippi, Kansas, and Texas are planning on suing to overturn griswold


And if anyone y=thinks the Republicans haven't been lining up cases like this just for this moment, that this isn't a coordinated effort, you're deluded.
 
2022-06-28 7:45:54 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: hardinparamedic: Alabama is suing to ban transgender therapy.
Tennessee just sued to overturn Obergfell
Texas is suing to overturn Lawrence
Mississippi, Kansas, and Texas are planning on suing to overturn griswold

And if anyone y=thinks the Republicans haven't been lining up cases like this just for this moment, that this isn't a coordinated effort, you're deluded.


At least 10 states have trigger laws in place invalidating any same sex marriages and banning further should obergfell be declaired invalid. Over 22 states have proposed or passed laws similar to Florida which ban public schools and colleges from talking about lgbt issues, and over 10 have proposed complete bans on transgender therapy and affirming treatment since Jan of this year.

Tennessee's AG has already issued a statement saying no one should honor any same sex marriage rights.
 
2022-06-28 9:02:08 PM  
If the Jon Stewart "You're Not Helping" meme existed 50 years ago, there would have been those who would have used it as a counterargument to Stonewall.
 
2022-06-28 9:02:39 PM  
Happy Pride, everyone! 🌈
 
2022-06-28 9:04:48 PM  
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2022-06-28 9:06:04 PM  
Yee haw.
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/i know, yankee
 
2022-06-28 9:14:06 PM  
I've been supporting gay rights both within the law and within my church (United Methodist) since I was in high school.

I took stands, gave speeches, argued, wrote letters and finally left the Methodist church because I couldn't attend a church that taught me to love my neighbor but wouldn't let my friends and family (and me, in some relationships) be recognized to love one another.

The church finally pulled their heads out of their asses and told the haters to leave if they can't accept love.... And now this Supreme Court.

I'm so depressed folks.  I'm sorry, but between gay rights and the environment and BLM and social justice and now abortion rights I'm just tired. I'm too sad to be angry.  I don't know how to keep fighting.
 
2022-06-28 9:24:49 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: hardinparamedic: Alabama is suing to ban transgender therapy.
Tennessee just sued to overturn Obergfell
Texas is suing to overturn Lawrence
Mississippi, Kansas, and Texas are planning on suing to overturn griswold

And if anyone y=thinks the Republicans haven't been lining up cases like this just for this moment, that this isn't a coordinated effort, you're deluded.


Someone needs to tell that log cabin Republican The media found who that said we didn't need to worry about any of those cases being overturned that he's a farking idiot.

I guess I mean continue to tell him he's a farking idiot
 
2022-06-28 9:29:32 PM  
Stonewall wasn;t the beginning of the struggle and it wasn't the end. Getting equality took decades of hard work by many people; and it is really dispiriting to see all our gains evaporate practically overnight. But we are still here, and the struggle continues.

When I am feeling depressed over corrent events, I'm reminded of this speech by G'Kar, leader of a race that had emerged from slavery only to be re-conquered by their former enslavers.

"No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once, we will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free."

Gkar: Freedom
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2022-06-28 9:29:48 PM  
A good and healthy reminder that the state will never protect you. They will gleefully do great harm to you. Nothing has changed.
 
2022-06-28 9:36:48 PM  
This needs a damned Hero tag.
 
2022-06-28 9:40:48 PM  

wingedkat: ... And now this Supreme Court.

I'm so depressed folks.  I'm sorry, but between gay rights and the environment and BLM and social justice and now abortion rights I'm just tired. I'm too sad to be angry.  I don't know how to keep fighting.


I find the best way to refill my spirits when the real world has worn them down, is to step away from the mayhem, and enjoy a favorite pastime, whatever that may be.

It's ok to disconnect for a weekend, watch your favorite movies, go for a long ride to a favorite place, anything that helps your mind break away. Then, you'll remember there's good things in this world and that they are worth the effort.

Good luck, friend.
 
2022-06-28 9:54:17 PM  

Mimekiller: A good and healthy reminder that the United States will never protect you. They will gleefully do great harm to you. Nothing has changed.


FTFY, from my libby bastion where hate speech against LGBTQ2S+ is illegal and Conservative politicians happily march in Pride parades.
 
2022-06-28 10:05:28 PM  

Ham Sandvich: wingedkat: ... And now this Supreme Court.

I'm so depressed folks.  I'm sorry, but between gay rights and the environment and BLM and social justice and now abortion rights I'm just tired. I'm too sad to be angry.  I don't know how to keep fighting.

I find the best way to refill my spirits when the real world has worn them down, is to step away from the mayhem, and enjoy a favorite pastime, whatever that may be.

It's ok to disconnect for a weekend, watch your favorite movies, go for a long ride to a favorite place, anything that helps your mind break away. Then, you'll remember there's good things in this world and that they are worth the effort.

Good luck, friend.


Yeah.  And I have stepped back a bit the past few years.  Had to.

It's just frustrating, to watch so much progress be sabotaged because people just can't seem to value or even consider the point of view of people who are just a little different.

I still vote, and give to charities, politicians and causes I support, and do my best to make sure that I at least am not part of the problem.

But it does seem that lately every protest or demonstration I attend from BLM to gun control to abortion and now maybe even gay rights... I can't shout because I'm too busy crying.
 
2022-06-28 10:32:42 PM  
Thanks to the ruling on Friday, I've been having nightmares about fleeing from law enforcement, trying to find safe houses with friends.  IDK if I'm being persecuted for being LGBTQ+ or a witch.  Given the current timeline, it'd be both.
 
2022-06-28 10:46:44 PM  
Droids still not allowed inside....
 
2022-06-28 11:00:13 PM  

harleyquinnical: Thanks to the ruling on Friday, I've been having nightmares about fleeing from law enforcement, trying to find safe houses with friends.  IDK if I'm being persecuted for being LGBTQ+ or a witch.  Given the current timeline, it'd be both.


My wife has woken me up crying because she's now having nightmares about being forced into conversion therapy for being trans.

I'm trying to approach these scenarios logically and calmly, but I'm starting to think Hinkley had the right idea and the tree of liberty is looking mighty thirsty.
 
2022-06-28 11:03:43 PM  
Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.
 
2022-06-29 12:35:37 AM  

wingedkat: I've been supporting gay rights both within the law and within my church (United Methodist) since I was in high school.

I took stands, gave speeches, argued, wrote letters and finally left the Methodist church because I couldn't attend a church that taught me to love my neighbor but wouldn't let my friends and family (and me, in some relationships) be recognized to love one another.

The church finally pulled their heads out of their asses and told the haters to leave if they can't accept love.... And now this Supreme Court.

I'm so depressed folks.  I'm sorry, but between gay rights and the environment and BLM and social justice and now abortion rights I'm just tired. I'm too sad to be angry.  I don't know how to keep fighting.


Dear wingedkat,
You are not alone. We are all in this together. Time to reconnect to your gay community. Even if it's just online. I know your weariness. I am 64 and have been fighting since John Briggs and Carl('s Jr. founder) Karcher tried to pass Proposition 6 in California to outlaw all gay teachers in the Cal. Education system, from preschools through the Universities. We beat them in 1978 and we stood strong when they murdered Moscone and Milk and we stood strong when they gunned us down at the Pulse and they will not win now because WE ARE FAMILY! Stay connected. That's always been our strength. I, too, am weary, but freedom isn't free and it's time to remind the Repugnican Party again that we are everywhere under the Rainbow! Be Proud, fly high.
💪🌈❤🧡💛💚💙💜
 
2022-06-29 2:32:02 AM  

hardinparamedic: harleyquinnical: Thanks to the ruling on Friday, I've been having nightmares about fleeing from law enforcement, trying to find safe houses with friends.  IDK if I'm being persecuted for being LGBTQ+ or a witch.  Given the current timeline, it'd be both.

My wife has woken me up crying because she's now having nightmares about being forced into conversion therapy for being trans.

I'm trying to approach these scenarios logically and calmly, but I'm starting to think Hinkley had the right idea and the tree of liberty is looking mighty thirsty.


"Revolution is the last resort of the desperate. Those who have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - Abraham Lincoln (not really, but I don't know where it's from).

They can only take so much from people before they suddenly find themselves on the receiving end of 2nd amendment solutions.
 
2022-06-29 3:09:29 AM  
Wasn't Pride last month? Certainly was in Ireland
 
2022-06-29 4:27:44 AM  

austerity101: Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.



Violence is 1/2 as effective as non-violence.  Take it from actual research as opposed to your personal violent fantasies.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/peaceful-protests-are-non-violent-demonstrations-an-effective-way-to-achieve-change/

"analysed data on over 300 violent and nonviolent major political campaigns in the last decade.
They found that nonviolent campaigns had been twice as effective as the violent campaigns: they succeeded about 53 per cent of time compared to 25 per cent for an armed resistance. "
 
2022-06-29 7:18:52 AM  
I would make a joke about Stonewall Jackson being a gay icon, but (A) that disrespects actual gay icons, and (B) Stonewall Jackson's personal grooming was too atrocious for him to be able to convincingly pass as a gay man.

Seriously, they should call him Shiatwall Jackson, because that is what he smelt like.
 
2022-06-29 8:56:39 AM  

Greymalkin: austerity101: Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.


Violence is 1/2 as effective as non-violence.  Take it from actual research as opposed to your personal violent fantasies.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/peaceful-protests-are-non-violent-demonstrations-an-effective-way-to-achieve-change/

"analysed data on over 300 violent and nonviolent major political campaigns in the last decade.
They found that nonviolent campaigns had been twice as effective as the violent campaigns: they succeeded about 53 per cent of time compared to 25 per cent for an armed resistance. "


Correlation != Causation

Non-violence is a luxury of movements popular enough to remain peaceful.

I doubt that many people in the LGBTQIA2S+ communities have fantasies about violence. More that there's an awareness of the abundance of historical evidence that people who literally want to kill us aren't very impressed when we let them.
 
2022-06-29 9:35:41 AM  

JessieL: Greymalkin: austerity101: Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.


Violence is 1/2 as effective as non-violence.  Take it from actual research as opposed to your personal violent fantasies.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/peaceful-protests-are-non-violent-demonstrations-an-effective-way-to-achieve-change/

"analysed data on over 300 violent and nonviolent major political campaigns in the last decade.
They found that nonviolent campaigns had been twice as effective as the violent campaigns: they succeeded about 53 per cent of time compared to 25 per cent for an armed resistance. "

Correlation != Causation

Non-violence is a luxury of movements popular enough to remain peaceful.

I doubt that many people in the LGBTQIA2S+ communities have fantasies about violence. More that there's an awareness of the abundance of historical evidence that people who literally want to kill us aren't very impressed when we let them.


Political violence is extremely dangerous and volatile. Once it starts, no one can predict how bad it will get or where it stops. But, getting relentlessly beat on by state-sponsored terrorists only works if the broader public can be shamed into condemning the violence and put pressure on politicians to rectify it.

We know that the National Conservatives, as they now call themselves, can control political power over the objections of the vast majority in many states and nationally. The Nat-Cs jerk off to videos of peaceful protesters getting gassed and assaulted. They can't be shamed into good behavior.

Self-defense is good. People treat you differently if they know you can and are willing to defend yourself and those around you. Watch how quickly the Proud Boys and other terrorists back off when a group like the Wall of Vets shows up at a Pride event.

Ironically, showing the will to defend yourself and your community offers more margin for de-escalation. The fashy foot-soldiers are hesitant to charge in when they know it's a risk. That's an opportunity to talk them down and avoid violence altogether.
 
2022-06-29 10:01:56 AM  

JessieL: Greymalkin: austerity101: Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.


Violence is 1/2 as effective as non-violence.  Take it from actual research as opposed to your personal violent fantasies.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/peaceful-protests-are-non-violent-demonstrations-an-effective-way-to-achieve-change/

"analysed data on over 300 violent and nonviolent major political campaigns in the last decade.
They found that nonviolent campaigns had been twice as effective as the violent campaigns: they succeeded about 53 per cent of time compared to 25 per cent for an armed resistance. "

Correlation != Causation

Non-violence is a luxury of movements popular enough to remain peaceful.

I doubt that many people in the LGBTQIA2S+ communities have fantasies about violence. More that there's an awareness of the abundance of historical evidence that people who literally want to kill us aren't very impressed when we let them.



Ah yes the 2 word response from anyone who thinks every comparison is as simplistic as Pirates vs Global warming.

You can go read the considerably more thought out 38 page analysis here:
https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/files/IS3301_pp007-044_Stephan_Chenoweth.pdf

Though that may be asking too much as if you had even gotten to the bottom of the first article I linked you would have seen the following on how popular a protest needs to be:

"Stephan's co-author Erica Chenoweth took their research further and found that no regime or incumbent leader had remained in power when at least 3.5 per cent of the population had participated in active protest."

Last time I checked the LGBT+ community is significantly more than 3.5% of the population without even counting allies.

So if violence, as loudly and repeatedly advocated by austerity101 (they were also recommending thumb screws and torture in another thread in the last couple of days), is their go to, all they are doing is holding back progress to satisfy their own Punisher wannabe revenge fetish.
 
2022-06-29 10:09:33 AM  

Ham Sandvich: JessieL: Greymalkin: austerity101: Violence works. Take it from the queers who fought back.


Violence is 1/2 as effective as non-violence.  Take it from actual research as opposed to your personal violent fantasies.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/peaceful-protests-are-non-violent-demonstrations-an-effective-way-to-achieve-change/

"analysed data on over 300 violent and nonviolent major political campaigns in the last decade.
They found that nonviolent campaigns had been twice as effective as the violent campaigns: they succeeded about 53 per cent of time compared to 25 per cent for an armed resistance. "

Correlation != Causation

Non-violence is a luxury of movements popular enough to remain peaceful.

I doubt that many people in the LGBTQIA2S+ communities have fantasies about violence. More that there's an awareness of the abundance of historical evidence that people who literally want to kill us aren't very impressed when we let them.

Political violence is extremely dangerous and volatile. Once it starts, no one can predict how bad it will get or where it stops. But, getting relentlessly beat on by state-sponsored terrorists only works if the broader public can be shamed into condemning the violence and put pressure on politicians to rectify it.

We know that the National Conservatives, as they now call themselves, can control political power over the objections of the vast majority in many states and nationally. The Nat-Cs jerk off to videos of peaceful protesters getting gassed and assaulted. They can't be shamed into good behavior.

Self-defense is good. People treat you differently if they know you can and are willing to defend yourself and those around you. Watch how quickly the Proud Boys and other terrorists back off when a group like the Wall of Vets shows up at a Pride event.

Ironically, showing the will to defend yourself and your community offers more margin for de-escalation. The fashy foot-soldiers are hesitant to charge in when they know i ...


That's definitely true - but as I always mention, liberals are generally squeamish regarding applying those measures as it has the "stench" of something right wing, and as such, is refused out of principle. For example, I don't forsee feminists carrying weapons to protect women going to PP in the near future, though it very well may be needed.
 
2022-06-29 4:50:24 PM  
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and Stonewall kept fapping and fapping and fapping until his favorite arm fell off. Died a weak later from a broken heart.
 
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