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(WLKY Louisville)   2 year-old becomes the youngest member of MENSA. Meanwhile Subby is still trying to figure out how to get his nose back from Uncle Steve   (wlky.com) divider line
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2022-06-28 1:14:11 PM  
"She can read over 500 words, we've honestly stopped counting!" said Isla's mother, Amanda McNabb.

Pffft. I can do that.
 
2022-06-28 1:25:42 PM  
I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?
 
2022-06-28 1:36:33 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


Like the "Who's Who" books, but with an entrance exam.
 
2022-06-28 1:37:28 PM  
Thats not your nose Uncle Steve grabbed, subby.
 
2022-06-28 1:37:48 PM  
"Apes don't read philosophy"
"Yes they do Otto, they just don't understand it."
 
2022-06-28 1:38:53 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


It is and they just a dues paying member for the next 70 to 80 years probably.
 
2022-06-28 1:39:03 PM  
My kid thinks his toothbrush is haunted.
 
2022-06-28 1:39:24 PM  
*got
 
2022-06-28 1:42:32 PM  
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2022-06-28 1:42:33 PM  
A two year old does not need to be dragged around like a trained seal.  I hate parents that pimp their kids.
Sorry...this bothers me.
 
2022-06-28 1:43:30 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


It's based on IQ, which is measured relative to someone's age. A two year old that can read as well as a 4 year old would have a 200 IQ. But the thing about very young kids is that the rate they learn things is highly variable but tends to level out as they get older. Letting in an advanced toddler is dumb because they just aren't going to stay twice as smart as their peers forever.
 
2022-06-28 1:44:01 PM  
Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.
 
2022-06-28 1:44:02 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


MENSA is a support group for underacheivers with high IQs who are tired of dealing with the losers they are forced to interact with in their daily lives
 
2022-06-28 1:44:40 PM  
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2022-06-28 1:44:40 PM  

Shakespeare's Monkey: My kid thinks his toothbrush is haunted.


How do know it's not?
 
2022-06-28 1:46:06 PM  
I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165
 
2022-06-28 1:46:15 PM  
"We can't say 'let's go to the P-A-R-K' or anything, because she can just sound it out!" said Amanda McNabb.

That's not so impressive. I know a golden retriever that can do the same thing.
 
2022-06-28 1:46:40 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


It kinda is.  In this case:

"Intrigued by the young girl's abilities, her psychiatrist suggested getting her an IQ test. Isla tested in the 99th percentile for her age group.  Soon after her impressive test score, the 2-year-old was invited to join Mensa, making her the youngest member ever inducted."

I think one of the ways of getting into MENSA for anyone is to have a top percentile 'official' IQ test.  So, yeah, she's a very bright toddler but that doesn't mean she is going to be the next Einstein or anything (I mean she could I guess).  I don't know enough about IQ testing to say anything definitive, but I would assume that it does not scale linearly with age. Meaning, you could be 99th age-group percentile when your peers are just learning to read, but end up 80th when your peers are learning calculus.  Like...I feel like it's kind of meaningless to say much beyond: this child is behind/at/ahead of what is typical for someone their age in terms of standardized literacy and problem solving.

Anyhow, I'm more curious why this apparently healthy two year old already has a psychiatrist.  They phrased it like she was already seeing them and then the IQ suggestion, so it's not like the parents sought out the shrink for the test.  Is that what they do with toddlers whose mental development is ahead of schedule now, send them to psychiatrists just to have a look around inside the old noggin?
 
2022-06-28 1:46:41 PM  

KangTheMad: Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.


Is there a particular comment you think is "ruthlessly bully(ing)"?
 
2022-06-28 1:47:53 PM  

JessieL: KangTheMad: Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.

Is there a particular comment you think is "ruthlessly bully(ing)"?


It's a prediction based on past behavior, like the time people here ripped on the little girl in New England who hiked a bunch of hills, claiming she would grow up to be male and a rapist.
 
2022-06-28 1:49:15 PM  

bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165


Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

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When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?
 
2022-06-28 1:49:18 PM  
not one in 3 million, one OF 3 million...

/i will not show my math
//you have to figure it out.
 
2022-06-28 1:52:08 PM  

Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?


You'd think that someone so smart would use a picture that doesn't invite people to feed him a shovel.
 
2022-06-28 1:53:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?


Thanks I can green light you as an a hole now and if you were so smart or a decent human being you wouldn't be a conservative
 
2022-06-28 1:54:27 PM  
IQ tests are the phrenology of the mid-20th century.  It stems from the post-modern idea that we could measure everything and use those measurements to make future predictions.  Human achievement is more complicated than that.  People used to believe in the marshmallow test too.

But don't listen to me.  I'm a Capricorn and my personality type is ENTP.
 
2022-06-28 1:55:19 PM  

JessieL: Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?

You'd think that someone so smart would use a picture that doesn't invite people to feed him a shovel.


That's ... that's just perfect.

Yoink!
 
2022-06-28 1:56:49 PM  

spongeboob: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

MENSA is a support group for underacheivers with high IQs who are tired of dealing with the losers they are forced to interact with in their daily lives


Depends.    The chapter in NE Ohio my mom and I were in was pretty much a mail group, such as they were in the late '60s.   We moved to San Francisco and their chapters were '70s sleeparounds/wife swapping/orgies with a side of eugenics.   The entrance requirements are silly.   If you are 13 and can do logic puzzles at the level of a 19 yr old, you are in.
 
2022-06-28 1:57:10 PM  

cravak: Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?

Thanks I can green light you as an a hole now and if you were so smart or a decent human being you wouldn't be a conservative


Yes I just realized it my ignore list not greenlit never did either before
 
2022-06-28 1:58:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?


Face rating:  Highly punchable
 
2022-06-28 1:59:31 PM  

shut_it_down: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

It's based on IQ, which is measured relative to someone's age. A two year old that can read as well as a 4 year old would have a 200 IQ. But the thing about very young kids is that the rate they learn things is highly variable but tends to level out as they get older. Letting in an advanced toddler is dumb because they just aren't going to stay twice as smart as their peers forever.


This. Although IQ is not something you can accurately register from a quick test. Yes, you can infer some stuff from scores, but its not anything anyone competent would consider in any kind of real assessment of you, or would be considered in court.

Source: Wife is actually qualified to do an assessment, and will do them at times on myself and our kid for practice. My kid bounces back and forth from genius to we are impressed she can wipe herself. I consistently score better with a few drinks in me, because i'm a bit more patient in explaining my answers in a test i don't want to take.

Me: "I KNOW WHAT YOUR BOOK SAYS HONEY, BUT YOU DON'T MEASURE THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN MPH, and anyone who knows it off the top of their head isn't going to give it to you in imperial".
Wife: "well maybe that is why they are asking it that way?"
 
2022-06-28 2:01:33 PM  

spongeboob: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

MENSA is a support group for underacheivers with mid-rangeIQs who are tired of dealing with the losers they are forced to interact with in their daily lives who are drastically more successful and intelligent than they are


FTFY

But hey, they test well enough.

/Smart is as smart does.
 
2022-06-28 2:02:34 PM  

KangTheMad: Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.


You're just mad we feel no need to bully you.
 
2022-06-28 2:03:16 PM  

cravak: Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?

Thanks I can green light you as an a hole now and if you were so smart or a decent human being you wouldn't be a conservative


OK, but make sure you highlight it as "Scott Greer, 6'4", 192 IQ, Bench press 310."
 
2022-06-28 2:03:54 PM  
Well that does it.

I'm giving back my membership card.
 
2022-06-28 2:04:50 PM  
I love the honesty of MENSA here for adding a 2 year old to their roster.

they are all about a quantifiable capacity to problem solve and retain data, while not needing any ability to have a higher level of both world and self awareness, in order to understand your own self in context to anything.

the few MENSA people i been exposed too left me a bit off, trying to understand how they claim they are intellectually superior while seeming to have little to no self awareness.
 
2022-06-28 2:06:50 PM  

Shakespeare's Monkey: My kid thinks his toothbrush is haunted.


They don't really, it's just an excuse to skip brushing their teeth. Kids are clever like that.
 
2022-06-28 2:07:36 PM  

cravak: Rapmaster2000: bighairyguy: I casually met with some MENSA members once to see what it was all about.  I never really figured it out as I was too busy fighting the urge to beat them up and take their milk money.

/IQ 165

Only 165?  Pfft.  I put mine in my Twitter bio.

[Fark user image image 850x645]

When you finish sounding out the words, can you get me my fries please?

Thanks I can green light you as an a hole now and if you were so smart or a decent human being you wouldn't be a conservative


Even most fry cooks know what that little "followed by" blurb at the bottom means.
 
2022-06-28 2:09:11 PM  

KangTheMad: Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.


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2022-06-28 2:09:15 PM  

shut_it_down: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

It's based on IQ, which is measured relative to someone's age. A two year old that can read as well as a 4 year old would have a 200 IQ. But the thing about very young kids is that the rate they learn things is highly variable but tends to level out as they get older. Letting in an advanced toddler is dumb because they just aren't going to stay twice as smart as their peers forever.


It sort of seems like those 8 year olds with black belts at the karate tournaments.

That's great that they know all the katas and can do the splits, but that goon kid that failed first and second grade will beat your ass.
 
2022-06-28 2:10:18 PM  
We're hoping that she can have some friends

Then take your toddler to play dates instead of Mensa conventions.
 
2022-06-28 2:11:11 PM  

KangTheMad: Oh look, a small child is accomplished in some way. It's time for the loving people of Fark.com to come in a ruthlessly bully the child and their family from behind the safety of anonymized internet handles.


Yeah, but unless the two year old asked to be in Mensa, the parents are exploiting her.
 
2022-06-28 2:12:23 PM  

whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?


Depends on what you're looking for from it. If you're looking for world saving geniuses, dedicating all their time to perfecting humanity, yes, it's BS.

If you're looking for something to put on a resume because you don't have a college degree, it got me what's turned out to be a 17 year (and counting) career.

Mostly it's a social club. Members have game nights, potluck dinners, and go on nerd tours together for things like birding and architecture walks.

From personal experience, the people who are all "these people are assholes and it's a bullshiat meaningless group of know-it-alls" are people who failed the IQ test to get in
 
2022-06-28 2:14:25 PM  
IIRC, Mensa has exactly one entrance requirement, and it's IQ based, I think it's "be at least 130" or "be top 2%" or somewhere along those lines.

So I have two obvious questions here:
1. How the fark do you give an IQ test to someone who's too young to write or type?
2. Given that Mensa is basically a social club, what possible value could it have to someone that young?
 
2022-06-28 2:16:09 PM  
I always thought that these were people who cold ride a menstrual cycle without falling off. No?
 
2022-06-28 2:16:51 PM  

LineNoise: shut_it_down: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

It's based on IQ, which is measured relative to someone's age. A two year old that can read as well as a 4 year old would have a 200 IQ. But the thing about very young kids is that the rate they learn things is highly variable but tends to level out as they get older. Letting in an advanced toddler is dumb because they just aren't going to stay twice as smart as their peers forever.

This. Although IQ is not something you can accurately register from a quick test. Yes, you can infer some stuff from scores, but its not anything anyone competent would consider in any kind of real assessment of you, or would be considered in court.

Source: Wife is actually qualified to do an assessment, and will do them at times on myself and our kid for practice. My kid bounces back and forth from genius to we are impressed she can wipe herself. I consistently score better with a few drinks in me, because i'm a bit more patient in explaining my answers in a test i don't want to take.

Me: "I KNOW WHAT YOUR BOOK SAYS HONEY, BUT YOU DON'T MEASURE THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN MPH, and anyone who knows it off the top of their head isn't going to give it to you in imperial".
Wife: "well maybe that is why they are asking it that way?"


Meters per second, no?
 
2022-06-28 2:18:26 PM  

trerro: IIRC, Mensa has exactly one entrance requirement, and it's IQ based, I think it's "be at least 130" or "be top 2%" or somewhere along those lines.

So I have two obvious questions here:
1. How the fark do you give an IQ test to someone who's too young to write or type?
2. Given that Mensa is basically a social club, what possible value could it have to someone that young?


It's for the parents to show off and brag on their little prodigy, both at Mensa events and afterwards to friends, family and probably random strangers in the check out line at the local Costco.

I mean, I don't really remember being a two year old, so that's the best I can figure.
 
2022-06-28 2:21:01 PM  

New Rising Sun: Anyhow, I'm more curious why this apparently healthy two year old already has a psychiatrist.  They phrased it like she was already seeing them and then the IQ suggestion, so it's not like the parents sought out the shrink for the test.  Is that what they do with toddlers whose mental development is ahead of schedule now, send them to psychiatrists just to have a look around inside the old noggin?


The precocious language skills are reason enough.

https://www.webmd.com/children/what-is-hyperlexia
 
2022-06-28 2:21:12 PM  

ssaoi: shut_it_down: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

It's based on IQ, which is measured relative to someone's age. A two year old that can read as well as a 4 year old would have a 200 IQ. But the thing about very young kids is that the rate they learn things is highly variable but tends to level out as they get older. Letting in an advanced toddler is dumb because they just aren't going to stay twice as smart as their peers forever.

It sort of seems like those 8 year olds with black belts at the karate tournaments.

That's great that they know all the katas and can do the splits, but that goon kid that failed first and second grade will beat your ass.


You put little kids in martial arts to help learn discipline, not to train as fighters.  Little kids suck at fighting. Even the big ones.
 
2022-06-28 2:27:27 PM  

DonkeyDixon: whidbey: I thought MENSA was a bunch of BS?

Depends on what you're looking for from it. If you're looking for world saving geniuses, dedicating all their time to perfecting humanity, yes, it's BS.

If you're looking for something to put on a resume because you don't have a college degree, it got me what's turned out to be a 17 year (and counting) career.

Mostly it's a social club. Members have game nights, potluck dinners, and go on nerd tours together for things like birding and architecture walks.

From personal experience, the people who are all "these people are assholes and it's a bullshiat meaningless group of know-it-alls" are people who failed the IQ test to get in


I went to a mixer of theirs once for prospective members. They said they didn't do stuff like try to influence the city government to do things in smarter or more efficient ways, which seems like a waste of a group thats supposed to be all geniuses.

The real deal breaker for me was they wanted to charge me annually, for a membership that did nothing but give me access to a bunch of nerds I already hung around with.
 
2022-06-28 2:30:28 PM  
Intelligence is relative.
One can be good some ways...and not others.
It can be inconsistent and flux.
It's at times not available, when needed
Or you don't apply it well.
So many variables...

I know I'm smart because I outthink and create faster then other smart people.
But I'm the same one, that doesn't know why I walked into a room.

Don't need someone to tell me that.
Although its a nice compliment.

Doesn't need to be official.
Because, wisdom is needed to understand this.
And that's different than intelligence.
 
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