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2022-06-28 8:44:11 AM  
Missing from the list is "The Lisa" computer, (prior to the Mac. Back in the day, I went to demo for it.  In fact, it's the only time I've ever used an Apple computer).  It was groundbreaking and died on the table.  It was named for Jobs' daughter, that he later claimed wasn't his daughter, but was his daughter, (who he left her NOTHING)!  (Jobs truly was despicable  human being)!
 
2022-06-28 9:01:04 AM  
Oh look, this article again.
 
2022-06-28 9:39:15 AM  
Still true.
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2022-06-28 10:32:55 AM  
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2022-06-28 10:33:25 AM  
Nice of them to include dates for all those products.
 
2022-06-28 10:44:28 AM  
#1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.
 
2022-06-28 10:47:24 AM  
The Newton was the closest we could get to a tricorder at the time and fark you very much, article.
 
2022-06-28 10:58:31 AM  

Rent Party: #1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.


Blame 'The Fappening'. AppleID password recoveries are torturous -by design- after that incident.
 
2022-06-28 11:02:23 AM  

The Bestest: Rent Party: #1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.

Blame 'The Fappening'. AppleID password recoveries are torturous -by design- after that incident.


So their shiatty security outcome is to deliberately make it impossible to change your password on a regular basis.

That's farkin' genius, man.
 
2022-06-28 11:07:25 AM  
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I'm guessing that this 'article' was written using a Newton

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2022-06-28 11:07:51 AM  
You never fail if you don't try anything new.
 
2022-06-28 11:08:00 AM  

Rent Party: The Bestest: Rent Party: #1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.

Blame 'The Fappening'. AppleID password recoveries are torturous -by design- after that incident.

So their shiatty security outcome is to deliberately make it impossible to change your password on a regular basis.

That's farkin' genius, man.


Oh, it's quite easy to change your password if you know your current password and are currently logged into a device. If you -forgot- your password and are NOT already logged into a device, well, good luck. And woe be to you if you only have one Apple device using that AppleID or changed your phone number.
 
2022-06-28 11:10:06 AM  
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2022-06-28 11:12:52 AM  

The Bestest: Rent Party: The Bestest: Rent Party: #1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.

Blame 'The Fappening'. AppleID password recoveries are torturous -by design- after that incident.

So their shiatty security outcome is to deliberately make it impossible to change your password on a regular basis.

That's farkin' genius, man.

Oh, it's quite easy to change your password if you know your current password and are currently logged into a device. If you -forgot- your password and are NOT already logged into a device, well, good luck. And woe be to you if you only have one Apple device using that AppleID or changed your phone number.


Yep.     I can't update any of my Macs as a result.
 
2022-06-28 11:14:30 AM  

Trik: Nice of them to include dates for all those products.


Yeah, no shiat. With tech, dates provide a TON of context. Equipment changes so quickly that you can nail something down just from seeing a computer.

Just this weekend, the wife was watching some movie where you had a professional video editor working on iMovie on a Mac. One look, and I asked what year the movie was made, saying it couldn't be later than 2002 or so. I was off by one year. it was 2003. And it was all from the shiatty green Mac monitor, and the version of the OS.

Dates would also make it more interesting because you could compare the failures with successes a short time later, see just how close they came to making the boat...
 
2022-06-28 11:27:07 AM  
I joined apple tv and then found out that I had to download, install, and sign into itunes in order to cancel my membership.

Eff off, apple.
 
2022-06-28 11:27:23 AM  
I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.
 
2022-06-28 11:27:44 AM  
The G4 cube was an overpriced but ok computer that had one feature that made it a success in aggregate:

It was awesome for demoing software at expos. It ran contemporary software as well as any other PC, but just looked cooler in an expo display than any other PC, and, being fan-less, it was essentially silent.
 
2022-06-28 11:30:22 AM  
The biggest losers are the people who willingly pay for their overpriced offerings.

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2022-06-28 11:35:00 AM  

stuhayes2010: I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.


Yeah. those were hanging around as I was starting my film classes. Talk about pieces of shiat. Even the most die hard Apple fanboi will tell you how much those things suck, never found a single fan.
 
2022-06-28 11:36:17 AM  

SpectroBoy: Still true.
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Lame and stale. Nobody outside of the iHater Echo Chamber ever thought it was good.
 
2022-06-28 11:41:39 AM  

growinthings: Missing from the list is "The Lisa" computer, (prior to the Mac. Back in the day, I went to demo for it.  In fact, it's the only time I've ever used an Apple computer).  It was groundbreaking and died on the table.  It was named for Jobs' daughter, that he later claimed wasn't his daughter, but was his daughter, (who he left her NOTHING)!  (Jobs truly was despicable  human being)!


Jobs undermined the Lisa by developing the Mac in parallel, so the Lisa was only on the market for about a year before the first Mac was released, which did 90% of what the Lisa could do for a quarter of price.
 
2022-06-28 11:42:32 AM  

aaronx: The G4 cube was an overpriced but ok computer that had one feature that made it a success in aggregate:

It was awesome for demoing software at expos. It ran contemporary software as well as any other PC, but just looked cooler in an expo display than any other PC, and, being fan-less, it was essentially silent.


It was even quieter when it would overheat and shut down because it didn't have a fan
 
2022-06-28 11:47:12 AM  

stuhayes2010: I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.


Even the current Magic Mouse is painful to use because it isn't designed to fit it your hand comfortably AND you can't really comfortably grip it from the sides either. It's just a terrible mouse. I had an iMac that came with one and quickly switched to using a Logitech mouse instead.

Plus with the latest version of the Magic Mouse, the charging port is on the bottom so if you forget to charge it you are screwed. With my MX Master 3, if I get a low battery warning I can just plug it up and use it like a wired mouse for a bit. They make some good computers and trackpads, but they are useless when it comes to making mice.
 
2022-06-28 11:47:37 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: aaronx: The G4 cube was an overpriced but ok computer that had one feature that made it a success in aggregate:

It was awesome for demoing software at expos. It ran contemporary software as well as any other PC, but just looked cooler in an expo display than any other PC, and, being fan-less, it was essentially silent.

It was even quieter when it would overheat and shut down because it didn't have a fan


That only happened for us after the vents clogged up a little in our (admittedly dusty) office. We didn't have any trouble at NEXPO, just later when they were used in the Dev/QA pool. A touch of canned air helped.
 
2022-06-28 11:53:21 AM  
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Here, let me open this on my 2004 iMac
 
2022-06-28 11:54:36 AM  

aaronx: The G4 cube was an overpriced but ok computer that had one feature that made it a success in aggregate:

It was awesome for demoing software at expos. It ran contemporary software as well as any other PC, but just looked cooler in an expo display than any other PC, and, being fan-less, it was essentially silent.


We had a bunch at work that I had to warehouse when they moved to PC's.
I SHOULD have disappeared a couple.
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2022-06-28 11:54:44 AM  

Russ1642: [Fark user image 225x60]

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On the odd chance that I run across a Gizmodo slideshow I'm interested enough in doing, I resize the width of that browser window to just narrower than it is tall and reload.  It puts everything on the same page then.  I'd imagine it does the same on mobile, but never bothered to test it.

Again, it's not exactly always something I'm interested enough in to jump through that hoop, but at least it's not too onerous a task.

You know, I bet someone could easily write an extension to handle that.
 
2022-06-28 11:57:38 AM  

bingethinker: SpectroBoy: Still true.
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Lame and stale. Nobody outside of the iHater Echo Chamber ever thought it was good.


lol. There it is.
 
2022-06-28 12:22:32 PM  
MacTV - When I lived in England, I had a housemate who bought one of these things and thought he got a good deal. He was pissed when he learned that because it had a TV tuner, he had to pay for an annual TV license.

Hockey Puck Mouse - It was complete garbage. I bought my aunt an iMac back then and made sure to replace the mouse with a Logitech.

iPod Hi-Fi - I've lived long enough to know that you never buy furniture to fit around a TV or generic stereo components that require special connectors. When I saw this thing I wondered who would buy something that would be useless after the form of the iPod was gone when they could connect the iPod to the AUX of any stereo.
 
2022-06-28 12:25:31 PM  

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I'm guessing that this 'article' was written using a Newton

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The worm coming out of the Apple logo was a nice touch.
 
2022-06-28 12:40:49 PM  
What was the one that overheated so bad components would come loose and their official solution was to pick it up and drop it?
 
2022-06-28 12:43:05 PM  
Not one of these is worse than a farking slideshow in 2022.
 
2022-06-28 12:56:34 PM  

Fear the Clam: Hockey Puck Mouse - It was complete garbage.


The one caveat on the hockey puck mouse is that if you were buying an iMac as a first computer for your grandparent, you never had to tell them "no, left click. The one on the left. Not double click the one on the right. Why are you dragging? Just click. Click! CLICK!!"
And since you could easily plug in any other mouse for someone more savvy, it wasn't necessarily a bad way to start. Same concept with the Magic Mouse - out of the box, it just did left click on the entire shell. You had to enable right clicking. Less confusing for the olds.
 
2022-06-28 1:18:00 PM  

Theaetetus: Fear the Clam: Hockey Puck Mouse - It was complete garbage.

The one caveat on the hockey puck mouse is that if you were buying an iMac as a first computer for your grandparent, you never had to tell them "no, left click. The one on the left. Not double click the one on the right. Why are you dragging? Just click. Click! CLICK!!"
And since you could easily plug in any other mouse for someone more savvy, it wasn't necessarily a bad way to start. Same concept with the Magic Mouse - out of the box, it just did left click on the entire shell. You had to enable right clicking. Less confusing for the olds.


The single button wasn't the problem. The issue was that because this mouse was round (unlike every Mac mouse that existed before or after), it was easy to hold it the wrong way (TM, Steve Jobs) and mouse sideways with unexpected results. Experienced users who knew to make sure the cord was at the top would be annoyed but knew how to fix it, whereas new users, who still hadn't mastered picking up the mouse when they ran out of mouse pad, were boned.
 
2022-06-28 1:41:10 PM  

Theaetetus: Fear the Clam: Hockey Puck Mouse - It was complete garbage.

The one caveat on the hockey puck mouse is that if you were buying an iMac as a first computer for your grandparent, you never had to tell them "no, left click. The one on the left. Not double click the one on the right. Why are you dragging? Just click. Click! CLICK!!"
And since you could easily plug in any other mouse for someone more savvy, it wasn't necessarily a bad way to start. Same concept with the Magic Mouse - out of the box, it just did left click on the entire shell. You had to enable right clicking. Less confusing for the olds.


As noted above, the problem with the puck mouse was ergonomics, not one button.  Apple has had a horrible track record of thinking stylish = ergonomic

But one-button sucked too.

"Double click"
"No, faster than that"
"No, on the same thing both times"
"Next, hold down the button and drag"
"Ok, hold the control button and the mouse button down and drag"
"Now hold down control and click"
"No, just one click, not two"

Right click context menus are vastly simpler to deal with, and I did a *lot* of training back in the early mouse days
 
2022-06-28 1:51:17 PM  

ReverendLoki: Russ1642: [Fark user image 225x60]

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On the odd chance that I run across a Gizmodo slideshow I'm interested enough in doing, I resize the width of that browser window to just narrower than it is tall and reload.  It puts everything on the same page then.  I'd imagine it does the same on mobile, but never bothered to test it.

Again, it's not exactly always something I'm interested enough in to jump through that hoop, but at least it's not too onerous a task.

You know, I bet someone could easily write an extension to handle that.



That's a neat and super convenient trick!
 
2022-06-28 2:33:58 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: aaronx: The G4 cube was an overpriced but ok computer that had one feature that made it a success in aggregate:

It was awesome for demoing software at expos. It ran contemporary software as well as any other PC, but just looked cooler in an expo display than any other PC, and, being fan-less, it was essentially silent.

It was even quieter when it would overheat and shut down because it didn't have a fan


we bought about 4 dozen Cubes to run a training lab (to train 1000 people to use InDesign so we could ditch Quark). we has Zero issues with any of them. we used to us them to play modded versions of Quake at lunches all the time.

I'm aware that there was a high failure rate on Cubes...but it was overblown.

I had more failure rates on the watercooled 2.5 GHZ G5 towers due to the power requirements browning themselves out constantly and force rebooting.  out of 120 we ordered of those, we had only placed about 50-60 on desks and more than half had issues due to brownouts... we ended up returning all of them to the leasing company for replacements the second the intel models became available.
 
2022-06-28 2:39:05 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Theaetetus: Fear the Clam: Hockey Puck Mouse - It was complete garbage.

The one caveat on the hockey puck mouse is that if you were buying an iMac as a first computer for your grandparent, you never had to tell them "no, left click. The one on the left. Not double click the one on the right. Why are you dragging? Just click. Click! CLICK!!"
And since you could easily plug in any other mouse for someone more savvy, it wasn't necessarily a bad way to start. Same concept with the Magic Mouse - out of the box, it just did left click on the entire shell. You had to enable right clicking. Less confusing for the olds.

As noted above, the problem with the puck mouse was ergonomics, not one button.  Apple has had a horrible track record of thinking stylish = ergonomic

But one-button sucked too.

"Double click"
"No, faster than that"
"No, on the same thing both times"
"Next, hold down the button and drag"
"Ok, hold the control button and the mouse button down and drag"
"Now hold down control and click"
"No, just one click, not two"

Right click context menus are vastly simpler to deal with, and I did a *lot* of training back in the early mouse days


I did end user support in a PC environment.  My mother-in-law once asked me to help with something on her Mac.  Mouse was terrible-- no right-click button or functionality.  In fact, no buttons at all-- the body of the mouse itself was the button.  You could execute a click just by touching it to move it.  (Is this the "hockey puck" you guys are talking about?)

Anyhoo, by the time I was done "helping", the machine wouldn't even boot anymore.

Upside: Was never asked to assist with it again.
 
2022-06-28 2:51:07 PM  

Mad_Radhu: stuhayes2010: I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.

Even the current Magic Mouse is painful to use because it isn't designed to fit it your hand comfortably AND you can't really comfortably grip it from the sides either. It's just a terrible mouse. I had an iMac that came with one and quickly switched to using a Logitech mouse instead.

Plus with the latest version of the Magic Mouse, the charging port is on the bottom so if you forget to charge it you are screwed. With my MX Master 3, if I get a low battery warning I can just plug it up and use it like a wired mouse for a bit. They make some good computers and trackpads, but they are useless when it comes to making mice.


First thing you do when you get a Mac is buy a better mouse. This has been true since about '86, and mandatory since the release of the SE and II.

/Used one of these when I interned at Oak Ridge in the early 90s
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2022-06-28 3:17:21 PM  

Mad_Radhu: stuhayes2010: I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.

Even the current Magic Mouse is painful to use because it isn't designed to fit it your hand comfortably AND you can't really comfortably grip it from the sides either. It's just a terrible mouse. I had an iMac that came with one and quickly switched to using a Logitech mouse instead.

Plus with the latest version of the Magic Mouse, the charging port is on the bottom so if you forget to charge it you are screwed. With my MX Master 3, if I get a low battery warning I can just plug it up and use it like a wired mouse for a bit. They make some good computers and trackpads, but they are useless when it comes to making mice.


Their keyboards blow goats, too. The last keyboard they made that I could stand was an ADB model sold with Performa 6200 and 6300 units in the 90's.
 
2022-06-28 3:21:23 PM  

Everything is Awful: What was the one that overheated so bad components would come loose and their official solution was to pick it up and drop it?


That was the Apple III. No cooling fan, on Job's orders. It was also not really all that compatible with the Apple II.

But to be fair, The Drop was a common fix for a quite a few computers of the day. My Atari ST had to be dropped every few months, as did the C64 and a few others.
 
2022-06-28 3:22:28 PM  

luidprand: Mad_Radhu: stuhayes2010: I dated a girl in college who had the hockey puck mac.  I don't know how that thing got past any QA process, my hand would cramp nearly instantly when trying to use it.

Even the current Magic Mouse is painful to use because it isn't designed to fit it your hand comfortably AND you can't really comfortably grip it from the sides either. It's just a terrible mouse. I had an iMac that came with one and quickly switched to using a Logitech mouse instead.

Plus with the latest version of the Magic Mouse, the charging port is on the bottom so if you forget to charge it you are screwed. With my MX Master 3, if I get a low battery warning I can just plug it up and use it like a wired mouse for a bit. They make some good computers and trackpads, but they are useless when it comes to making mice.

First thing you do when you get a Mac is buy a better mouse. This has been true since about '86, and mandatory since the release of the SE and II.

/Used one of these when I interned at Oak Ridge in the early 90s
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That's true of any prebuilt PC, not just apple, there is plenty to knock apple for, but packing cheap, crappy peripherals is something all of the bigger companies do. The best you can hope for is something that actually functions and is comfortable enough to use, worse case is unusable junk.
 
2022-06-28 4:21:58 PM  
Disclaimer: I do not own any Apple products.

I loved the idea of the G4 Cube. Visually, it was awesome. With machines like the Beelink GTR5, Minisforum B550, Gigabyte Brix, and others, it should be feasible to do today without any heating or overheating issues.

I have a couple of minipcs from manufacturers mentioned above, but I wouldn't say any of them have any sort of real style to them.
 
2022-06-28 4:59:04 PM  
For the G4 Cube, I've wondered if Jobs was still stuck on the NeXTcube, before NeXT assimilated Apple and added their technological distinctiveness to its own. (Oh wait, it was supposed to be the other way around.)

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2022-06-28 5:30:14 PM  
luidprand:

First thing you do when you get a Mac is buy a better mouse. This has been true since about '86, and mandatory since the release of the SE and II.

/Used one of these when I interned at Oak Ridge in the early 90s
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some of us prefer trackpads.
 
2022-06-28 5:41:14 PM  

The Bestest: Rent Party: The Bestest: Rent Party: #1 Should be "Resetting your apple ID."

It is goddamn ridiculous that a simple password reset is beyond these chuckleheads.   I love my Macs, but fark you, Apple.

Blame 'The Fappening'. AppleID password recoveries are torturous -by design- after that incident.

So their shiatty security outcome is to deliberately make it impossible to change your password on a regular basis.

That's farkin' genius, man.

Oh, it's quite easy to change your password if you know your current password and are currently logged into a device. If you -forgot- your password and are NOT already logged into a device, well, good luck. And woe be to you if you only have one Apple device using that AppleID or changed your phone number.


Or having your AppleID set to an email address that no longer works-jump thru multiple hoops to be told an email has been sent...to that address.
 
2022-06-28 6:02:40 PM  
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2022-06-28 6:18:01 PM  
OK. This would probably be more persuasive if Apple wasn't the second most valuable company on earth.
 
2022-06-28 6:27:17 PM  

Caelistis: Disclaimer: I do not own any Apple products.

I loved the idea of the G4 Cube. Visually, it was awesome. With machines like the Beelink GTR5, Minisforum B550, Gigabyte Brix, and others, it should be feasible to do today without any heating or overheating issues.

I have a couple of minipcs from manufacturers mentioned above, but I wouldn't say any of them have any sort of real style to them.


Hell, you could probably squeeze Mac Studio hardware into a G4 Cube case these days and have it run damn near silent.

They are actually the same 7.7" width and depth, so I'm surprised no one has tried doing that as a mod yet.
 
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