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2022-06-27 6:24:12 PM  
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2022-06-27 6:41:49 PM  
This is the only language that Republicans understand.
 
2022-06-27 6:44:59 PM  

aleister_greynight: This is the only language that Republicans understand.


Well, this and one other language, but we're not quite there, yet.
 
2022-06-27 6:47:25 PM  
Well, normally I'm on the ACLU's side, but in this case, we should return to the original understanding of the 2ndA, where for nearly 200 years courts everywhere interpreted the 2ndA as meaning that gun ownership should be much more restrictive.
 
2022-06-27 7:20:06 PM  
A bounty hunting scheme to address republican idiocy holds real appeal at this point in time. Time for Dems to play to win
 
2022-06-27 7:33:35 PM  
The ACLU also fights for terrorist Nazis to have political marches.

fark the ACLU
 
2022-06-27 7:51:23 PM  

Thoreny: fark the ACLU


The ACLU is 100% right that this is 100% wrong.

But sometimes doing wrong is the right thing.
 
2022-06-27 7:52:58 PM  

WickerNipple: Thoreny: fark the ACLU

The ACLU is 100% right that this is 100% wrong.

But sometimes doing wrong is the right thing.


Yes and yes.  And yes.
 
2022-06-27 10:35:09 PM  
Then the ACLU can argue in front of the Supreme Court that what MANY REPUBLICAN STATES are proposing re: abortion, AS WELL AS California's proposal on guns, are unconstitutional.

There shouldn't be an "equal" amount of fighting, either. After all, California only has two votes in the Senate, and is underrepresented in the House and DRASTICALLY underrepresented in the Presidential EC vote.
 
2022-06-27 10:36:33 PM  

WickerNipple: Thoreny: fark the ACLU

The ACLU is 100% right that this is 100% wrong.

But sometimes doing wrong is the right thing.


Yep.

If this is going to be the standard, both sides need to use it until it becomes outlawed.

It shouldn't have to be this way, but it is.
 
2022-06-27 10:55:21 PM  

Thoreny: The ACLU also fights for terrorist Nazis to have political marches.

fark the ACLU


Yes. That's their job. The first amendment is for everyone.

Even Nazis, as shiatty as that is.
 
2022-06-27 11:49:31 PM  
tit for tat, sounds fine to me
 
2022-06-27 11:49:54 PM  
I am so going to vote for this in November, and anything else that wanders out of Newsom's crazed mind between now and then.

Time to bring it to the GQP just as hard as we possibly can.
 
2022-06-27 11:50:00 PM  
Did the check bounce?
 
2022-06-27 11:52:41 PM  

FlashHarry: Thoreny: The ACLU also fights for terrorist Nazis to have political marches.

fark the ACLU

Yes. That's their job. The first amendment is for everyone.

Even Nazis, as shiatty as that is.


Fark that noise!  No protections for hate speech!  All Nazis should hang!
 
2022-06-27 11:53:48 PM  
Here's a hypothetical for Farkers (HFF):

Both laws go thru appeal and windup at SCOTUS;

which one will be upheld, and which one struck down?
 
2022-06-27 11:54:05 PM  

enry: WickerNipple: Thoreny: fark the ACLU

The ACLU is 100% right that this is 100% wrong.

But sometimes doing wrong is the right thing.

Yes and yes.  And yes.


im at the edge of my understanding here, but I think this is also where I'll be putting my towel on a sunlounger.
 
2022-06-27 11:54:09 PM  

eurotrader: A bounty hunting scheme to address republican idiocy holds real appeal at this point in time. Time for Dems to play to win


I think bounty hunting laws are a bad idea. Republicans are a worse idea. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 
2022-06-27 11:55:43 PM  
The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.
 
2022-06-27 11:55:55 PM  
/Should have added: Card-carrying member of the ACLU
 
2022-06-27 11:56:42 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.


*citation needed*
 
2022-06-27 11:58:03 PM  

GlenninSac: Here's a hypothetical for Farkers (HFF):

Both laws go thru appeal and windup at SCOTUS;

which one will be upheld, and which one struck down?


That's not hard.

The abortion law will be upheld and the gun law will be struck down.

Because one is a godly law to protect the unborn and the other is from California.
 
2022-06-27 11:58:17 PM  
Hot Take: We should not emulate the Red Hats. That said...should absolutely use their own laws to F with them. After all...it would take no effort to figure out which state legislators voted for a thing and then using said thing to F with them.
 
2022-06-27 11:58:38 PM  

Thoreny: The ACLU also fights for terrorist Nazis to have political marches.

fark the ACLU


Yeah, that's right!  The Republicans have the right idea, the American Civil Liberties Union are enemies of the United States!  We should get rid of them right now, when we need them the least!  Then we'll have nobody to stand up for our rights and we'll be free from them!

...wait.
 
2022-06-27 11:58:56 PM  
I hope the ACLU realizes that the whole point of this largely unjust law is to rub Republicans' noses in the legislative feces which is the Texas bounty hunter law. The Supreme Court, in all their infinite wisdom, decided that Texas' law is completely above board; all California is doing is a quick find-and-replace with references to abortion replaced by references to assault rifles.

The Supreme Court cannot strike down the California law without also striking down the Texas law; and until (and unless) that happens, California is fighting fire with fire.
 
2022-06-27 11:59:30 PM  
The Texas abortion vigilante law against (often involuntarily) pregnant women without regard to their health or any medical consideration is atrocious and evil.

Mirroring that same atrocious vigilante sensibility by instituting civil liability against mass-producing cheap easily-obtained lightweight semiautomatic short-barreled rifles fed by high-capacity quick-change ammunition magazines whose only purpose is mass and mostly-random murder of living humans?

Let's please do more of that for a while.
 
2022-06-27 11:59:37 PM  

WickerNipple: Thoreny: fark the ACLU

The ACLU is 100% right that this is 100% wrong.

But sometimes doing wrong is the right thing.


Yup. The "bounty-hunting" tactic is wrong, but using it to go after causes dear to conservatives is the only way to get the Supreme Court to see that.
 
2022-06-27 11:59:39 PM  

FlashHarry: Thoreny: The ACLU also fights for terrorist Nazis to have political marches.

fark the ACLU

Yes. That's their job. The first amendment is for everyone.

Even Nazis, as shiatty as that is.


Threats and harassment are not protected by the 1st Amendment. Nazis marching in a show of force or spreading hate propaganda constitutes both. The ALCU are wrong on this one.
 
2022-06-28 12:00:53 AM  
Better vote on it fast. Now that Dobbs is out, SCOTUS will invalidate SB8 pretty soon.
 
2022-06-28 12:02:52 AM  

GlenninSac: Here's a hypothetical for Farkers (HFF):

Both laws go thru appeal and windup at SCOTUS;

which one will be upheld, and which one struck down?


CA will be overturned because tort actions against gun ownership does not have a history in the US.  TX might stand because there is no con protections.
 
2022-06-28 12:03:00 AM  

King Something: I hope the ACLU realizes that the whole point of this largely unjust law is to rub Republicans' noses in the legislative feces which is the Texas bounty hunter law. The Supreme Court, in all their infinite wisdom, decided that Texas' law is completely above board; all California is doing is a quick find-and-replace with references to abortion replaced by references to assault rifles.

The Supreme Court cannot strike down the California law without also striking down the Texas law; and until (and unless) that happens, California is fighting fire with fire.


Someone has to. The so-called progressives and not a few Democrats have been screeching for six years that its time to take the fight to the Republicans; well, sports fans, this is what that looks like. If you're not happy with it, all I can say is either do it yourselves or get out of the road, but don't complain that "We didn't want to do it THAT way [sob, whimper]!"

There isn't any way to take the fight to them and still be polite about it.
 
2022-06-28 12:04:48 AM  

iheartscotch: Hot Take: We should not emulate the Red Hats. That said...should absolutely use their own laws to F with them. After all...it would take no effort to figure out which state legislators voted for a thing and then using said thing to F with them.


"We shouldn't embrace bad laws knowingly just because it farks with the other side" shouldn't be a hot take.  But I guess that's where we are as a country now, on the brink of civil war (if it hasn't already started).
 
2022-06-28 12:05:22 AM  

Metastatic Capricorn: AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.

*citation needed*


https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1541518056245043200

ACLU is pro nazis and wants nazis to have guns.  If that aint ultra maga, what is?
 
2022-06-28 12:06:18 AM  
This is going to escalate to shootouts at the ok corral because someone said the other one was a snowflake, isn't it?

/Only if kids are thrown in like rodeo clowns to wrangle the bullets, as is the American way
 
2022-06-28 12:09:42 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: ACLU is pro nazis


NO U!
 
2022-06-28 12:10:39 AM  

Saiga410: CA will be overturned


The whole state?
 
2022-06-28 12:11:51 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Saiga410: CA will be overturned

The whole state?


We are on the ring of fire.  Eventually the whole state WILL be overturned.  Or at least churned under.
 
2022-06-28 12:13:55 AM  

Gyrfalcon: The so-called progressives


Who are the actual progressives?
 
2022-06-28 12:13:59 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.


not your best work.
'Our Democracy'... ?

don't be mad.  I do this for your own good.
 
2022-06-28 12:14:53 AM  
Unless the ACLU also has the same zeal going after redneck bounty hunters who harass women trying to escape Gilead, they need to STF down and STFU.
 
2022-06-28 12:15:01 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Metastatic Capricorn: AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.

*citation needed*

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1541518056245043200

ACLU is pro nazis and wants nazis to have guns.  If that aint ultra maga, what is?


You're a gigantic idiot
 
2022-06-28 12:18:33 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Gyrfalcon: The so-called progressives

Who are the actual progressives?


*mic tap* you OK?
 
2022-06-28 12:18:51 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Unless the ACLU also has the same zeal going after redneck bounty hunters who harass women trying to escape Gilead, they need to STF down and STFU.


Yes, they do.  Are you seriously farking asking "Is the ACLU working to protect Roe Vs Wade?"?!  Do you honestly think they aren't?  Holy farking shiat stop being baited to attack the people trying to protect you!
 
2022-06-28 12:20:01 AM  

Elliot8654: AmbassadorBooze: Metastatic Capricorn: AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.

*citation needed*

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1541518056245043200

ACLU is pro nazis and wants nazis to have guns.  If that aint ultra maga, what is?

You're a gigantic idiot


now, Elliott is also telling you this out of an earnest desire to help you.
 
2022-06-28 12:21:14 AM  

Elliot8654: AmbassadorBooze: Metastatic Capricorn: AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.

*citation needed*

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1541518056245043200

ACLU is pro nazis and wants nazis to have guns.  If that aint ultra maga, what is?

You're a gigantic idiot


Oh.  For certain.

But I aint defending nazis like the ACLU.  And I am for the disarming of the whites by any means necessary.  And when the whites are disarmed, subdued, and cuckolded, the rest of the population can be disarmed.

Who is objectively better?  A person willing to have nazis disarmed, scilenced, and gitmoed no matter the method, or a group that protects nazis?
 
2022-06-28 12:22:42 AM  

King Something: I hope the ACLU realizes that the whole point of this largely unjust law is to rub Republicans' noses in the legislative feces which is the Texas bounty hunter law. The Supreme Court, in all their infinite wisdom, decided that Texas' law is completely above board; all California is doing is a quick find-and-replace with references to abortion replaced by references to assault rifles.

The Supreme Court cannot strike down the California law without also striking down the Texas law; and until (and unless) that happens, California is fighting fire with fire.


Guns are explicitly listed in the constitution as a right.

Abortion is not.

/this will be the reasoning scotus uses to uphold one and strike the other
 
2022-06-28 12:24:23 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: And when the whites are disarmed, subdued, and cuckolded, the rest of the population can be disarmed.


You know who else believes in "replacement theory"?
 
2022-06-28 12:26:08 AM  

DORMAMU: King Something: I hope the ACLU realizes that the whole point of this largely unjust law is to rub Republicans' noses in the legislative feces which is the Texas bounty hunter law. The Supreme Court, in all their infinite wisdom, decided that Texas' law is completely above board; all California is doing is a quick find-and-replace with references to abortion replaced by references to assault rifles.

The Supreme Court cannot strike down the California law without also striking down the Texas law; and until (and unless) that happens, California is fighting fire with fire.

Guns are explicitly listed in the constitution as a right.

Abortion is not.

/this will be the reasoning scotus uses to uphold one and strike the other


Holy United States Constitution and Bill of Rights: [Ctrl|Cmd]-f gun

No results found
 
2022-06-28 12:29:35 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Elliot8654: AmbassadorBooze: Metastatic Capricorn: AmbassadorBooze: The ACLU is an ultra maga organization.

Either you are with us or against us.  The ACLU is against the ideals of Our Democracy.  They must be shut down and the leadership gitmoed.  And all supporters of the ultra maga ACLU put on no fly or other watch lists.

*citation needed*

https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1541518056245043200

ACLU is pro nazis and wants nazis to have guns.  If that aint ultra maga, what is?

You're a gigantic idiot

Oh.  For certain.

But I aint defending nazis like the ACLU.  And I am for the disarming of the whites by any means necessary.  And when the whites are disarmed, subdued, and cuckolded, the rest of the population can be disarmed.

Who is objectively better?  A person willing to have nazis disarmed, scilenced, and gitmoed no matter the method, or a group that protects nazis?


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2022-06-28 12:30:33 AM  

Albert911emt: Well, normally I'm on the ACLU's side, but in this case, we should return to the original understanding of the 2ndA, where for nearly 200 years courts everywhere interpreted the 2ndA as meaning that gun ownership should be much more restrictive.


the whole constitution was written because they were mad the king and his men were taking shiats in their farm houses or whatever. in retrospect probably not the best basis for a modern day society of 300 million people
 
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