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2022-06-26 10:24:48 PM  
Obvious tag is fleeing to a blue state.
 
2022-06-26 10:42:07 PM  
No, they want those harlots who had sex without their permission to drop dead.  Let's be clear.
 
2022-06-26 11:37:07 PM  
But they can still buy guns. So what's the problem?
 
2022-06-27 12:06:11 AM  
The banality of evil.
 
2022-06-27 1:06:31 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they want those harlots who had sex without their permission to drop dead.  Let's be clear.


And they're willing to sacrifice all of us.
 
2022-06-27 1:16:47 AM  
It's OK when conservative women have abortions, though.

It seems that Ol' Pussygrabber's favorite daughter had one many years ago.
 
2022-06-27 1:20:08 AM  

slepygryhnd: Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they want those harlots who had sex without their permission to drop dead.  Let's be clear.

And they're willing to sacrifice all of us.


What do you mean, "all of us"?  Either you are within their guidelines - sex whenever and however the men in your life decide - or you're a slut and you deserve what you get.  If you're a respectable woman, you'll have care.  If you're not - say, you got raped or your father decided your 9-year-old-body makes a great free realdoll, but he doesn't want to take responsibility - then you're just another harlot who tempted a man into sin and must be punished.

There are no exceptions.  This is the foundational Christian way of looking at these things.
 
2022-06-27 1:22:23 AM  

Lorelle: It's OK when conservative women have abortions, though.

It seems that Ol' Pussygrabber's favorite daughter had one many years ago.


Yes, but that's different.  Her father is powerful, so that's fine.  He decides what to do with her body.

Anyway, that's super sus.  Where were these "high school friends" when she was participating in burning down the entire f*cking republic?
 
2022-06-27 3:19:03 AM  
I suppose this eventually means we get another Black Panther Party full of angry, disaffected youths in less than 20 years.  They were largely what got shiat done for civil rights in the first place, as it turns out, academically, sociology has found that violence does actually work. Plus they got gun control enacted.

So I'm thinking this problem partially resolves itself down the line, which is poetic because it's all started on the heels of a paranoid and fundamentally racist "Replacement Theory" and will end with minorities in the majority.
 
2022-06-27 6:11:32 AM  
I've heard interviews with these assholes claiming that "Christians" were ready to step up help pregnant women. I found myself screaming "bullshiat" at the radio. If that was actually true, they'd have been doing it all along without resorting to the facade of a "crisis pregnancy center."
The most infuriating interview was with the former Governor of Mississippi who when asked what a pregnant woman or girl should do, his first answer was "prayer" to the "God of all of us." Bless his heart. His answer was essentially "why, yes, I want this country to be a Christian theocracy, why do you ask?"
 
2022-06-27 6:17:31 AM  
Ahh, yes. Now, suddenly, after decades of "welfare queens!" and "anchor babies!" and "whar bootstraps?!" now suddenly the fascists will think "We better do something about maternal care and affordable child care options and better schools -- tell the corporations their tax cuts are *over* so we can pay for the children!"

What will really happen:
"We're truly helping the next generation by ending public schools and just giving each family a $7,000 per kid tax credit which can be applied at the private school of their choice. Oh, the average spend per child is $17,000? Well, the Glory of the Free Market will fix it now that we've ended teacher's unions. OH, you're a kid with parents who don't give a shiat about your education or are working four jobs each to just keep a roof over your heads? Don't worry, Shawshank Elementary is still open for you 'troubled' kids."
 
2022-06-27 6:39:06 AM  
Only the weak ones. Yeah, some white girls will die too, but only the ones who wouldn't breed winners anyway, so what's their real loss. The important part is that brown and black and other colors of people will lose babies and breeders too, and that may slow their population creep to give white folks a few more good years before they have to accept that they're outnumbered.
 
2022-06-27 6:40:50 AM  
Infant mortality rates are gonna skyrocket, and a lot more women will die in childbirth. Republicans aren't going to help - they're not going to expand medical care to poor people under any circumstances. Nor will conservatives help with care or feeding of kids or families.
Republicans wanted women pregnant. And that's what they got.
 
2022-06-27 7:27:52 AM  
"And there's a reason why neither he nor Samuel Alito mentioned anything about expanding social welfare."  Why would the court do that in this ruling?  Not really a Constitutional thing. Dumb article.
 
2022-06-27 7:30:18 AM  

Unobtanium: I've heard interviews with these assholes claiming that "Christians" were ready to step up help pregnant women. I found myself screaming "bullshiat" at the radio. If that was actually true, they'd have been doing it all along without resorting to the facade of a "crisis pregnancy center."
The most infuriating interview was with the former Governor of Mississippi who when asked what a pregnant woman or girl should do, his first answer was "prayer" to the "God of all of us." Bless his heart. His answer was essentially "why, yes, I want this country to be a Christian theocracy, why do you ask?"


Once they are born, on their own. Food assistance and free school lunches are socialism. If your kindergartners want to eat, they can perform janitorial work at 30 cents an hour. It's not like Jesus said anything about the children, the poor, the needy, the hungry. Go ahead and tell me how reciting a magic phrase puts you in heaven instead of hell, why you do the exact damn opposite of what your savior told you to do.
 
2022-06-27 7:31:49 AM  

Lorelle: It's OK when conservative women have abortions, though.

It seems that Ol' Pussygrabber's favorite daughter had one many years ago.


I got immediately paywalled. WTF
 
2022-06-27 7:34:56 AM  

Lorelle: It's OK when conservative women have abortions, though.

It seems that Ol' Pussygrabber's favorite daughter had one many years ago.


Could someone please post a summary of this paywalled article?
 
2022-06-27 7:35:06 AM  
So to recap: Republicans have made it damn near impossible for poor people to keep themselves and their kids fed or healthy but guns are cheap and readily available.
Does anyone have any questions about how this scenario will end...?
 
2022-06-27 7:37:25 AM  
I think this is a mischaracterization of what they really want.  In the mind of the Pro-lifer, the moment a baby is conceived, it is a fully formed, thinking human baby.  And when you abort that pregnancy, you are murdering a baby.

You have to think of this from that mindset.  That is their starting point.

Because of this, they think that an abortion at 6 weeks involves sawing the baby apart to make it easier to remove.

That is what the entire problem is here.  They don't actually know or understand how any of this stuff works.  They just have it worked into their mind that THAT is how horrific these people who want abortions, and therefore so are the people that perform the operation.

They think these women are monsters.  They think it was their fault for getting pregnant, and they think they are murderers for ending the pregnancy.

That is why they act like they do.  They is why they pass these laws.  That is why they think they are SO right about this.  And forget about showing them where their entire argument is flawed.  Because they will NEVER look at something that shows that they might be wrong.  Nope.  Not gonna happen.

You would think that people that don't know what the fark they are talking about should not be passing laws based on their flawed logic - and certainly not on their religion.  But here we are.
 
2022-06-27 7:37:33 AM  

Weaver95: So to recap: Republicans have made it damn near impossible for poor people to keep themselves and their kids fed or healthy but guns are cheap and readily available.
Does anyone have any questions about how this scenario will end...?


I'm sure they feel confident that the poor won't be able to reach the wealthy, and they don't care what other uses the guns are used for.
 
2022-06-27 7:39:06 AM  
Soon we'll have a fetal personhood laws, followed by laws making it illegal for pregnant women to ride horses or motorcycles... then laws requiring pregnant women to register their pregnancies, and laws requiring medical documentation proving miscarriages.  The production line has always been there, it just needs proper management to get the most output.  We'll get the white population back up in no time!
 
2022-06-27 7:40:25 AM  
The American Taliban wants us filthy commoners to kill each other off. It's been obvious that's the case for the better part of a century now.
 
2022-06-27 7:42:18 AM  
We're going to get some high profile deaths from ectopic pregnancies and similar.
 
2022-06-27 7:44:20 AM  
This has been true long before the Supreme Court decision.
 
2022-06-27 7:45:45 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they want those harlots who had sex without their permission to drop dead.  Let's be clear.


No, they want to punish every woman who chose to not have sex with them.

It's incel revenge disguised as something more noble.
 
2022-06-27 7:45:48 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they want those harlots who had sex without their permission to drop dead.  Let's be clear.


It's almost like the GOP is full of dudes with no game and has to use the law to get laid.
 
2022-06-27 7:48:57 AM  

Majin_Buu: The American Taliban wants us filthy commoners to kill each other off. It's been obvious that's the case for the better part of a century now.


Pretty certain the Taliban is more tolerant of abortion than the US is now.

Only problem US conservatives had with the terrorism preceding and including 9/11 was that it wasn't done in the name of the white god.
 
2022-06-27 7:52:37 AM  
The sanctity of life!
 
2022-06-27 7:53:08 AM  
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2022-06-27 7:54:28 AM  

arrogantbastich: The sanctity of life!


You should see how nasty they are at women for having the gall to have a ectopic pregnancy.
 
2022-06-27 7:56:04 AM  
Yeah, but they'll be in heavan for being a good girl so it's ok.
 
2022-06-27 7:56:41 AM  
Enough kids will eventually get dropped off at the unwanted children drop-off boxes that they eventually will have to change the law and allow the state to use unwanted children as conscripts to fix potholes for the department of transportation.
 
2022-06-27 7:56:47 AM  
Keep in mind:  Enough men out there believe that a woman can just hold her menstruation like one can hold their piss.  There's a reason conservatives don't want sex ed (aka high school biology) taught.
 
2022-06-27 7:59:01 AM  

buravirgil: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x413]


That's supposed to be a glory hole? JFC
 
2022-06-27 7:59:53 AM  
The Republicans have been pretty clear that they are all in on white, male, Christian nationalism.  It's a clear, if abhorrent, vision of the country.  And they are gaining voters with it.

To combat the Republican vision, a coherent, popular alternative needs to be presented.  And right now the Democrats don't have one.  The centrists don't have any principals.  And the progressives have way too many.  Racial justice, twitter warriors, violent protests, reparations, affirmative action, and other attempts to make things equal via government fiat... those are easy for the R's to demonize, and prevalent enough in the Progressives for the R's to effortlessly paint the whole movement with.

White, male, Christian nationalism is winning against progressivism.  We need a new approach.  Sustained, clear messaging equating healthcare and education with national strength would do it I think, with proposed policies granting equal access - not mandatory equality, equal opportunity - to the same.  That's simple, clear, and popular.

Instead we'll probably just double down with the belief that we're just not being progressive enough.  More cultural appropriation this and social media burns that, probably followed up with some personal insults against anyone who lives in Florida or Texas, because that's always helpful.
 
2022-06-27 8:00:01 AM  
"The pro-life impulse could control and improve conservative governance rather than being undermined by it, making the G.O.P. more serious about family policy and public health" ~ Ross A**hat ~

Buddy is dreaming in technicolor  -- the idea has always been to punish women who they consider promiscuous.
 
2022-06-27 8:00:34 AM  

powhound: buravirgil: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x413]

That's supposed to be a glory hole? JFC


I was thinking about that... a 'grab 'em by the pussy' hole, or it's for checking her virginity status with your fingers.
 
2022-06-27 8:02:06 AM  
These idiots are getting it all wrong. Island folk who sacrificed virgins to the volcano did so for a reason:

They didn't want to give up their sluts. As any sane people would refuse to do. Nobody learns how to give a good hump in isolation, with nothing to compare their performance to.

When all these morons have left are virgins, sex will be eternally disappointing. Which is what they deserve.
 
2022-06-27 8:02:21 AM  
If they were serious about getting rid of abortion, they would put an emphasis on prevention of pregnancy through things like open access to birth control and comprehensive sex education. But they're working to eliminate those things too.

This has always been about wedge issue politics and maintaining a holier than thou feeling. They don't actually care one bit about protecting life or pregnant women.
 
2022-06-27 8:03:44 AM  

Unobtanium: I've heard interviews with these assholes claiming that "Christians" were ready to step up help pregnant women. I found myself screaming "bullshiat" at the radio. If that was actually true, they'd have been doing it all along without resorting to the facade of a "crisis pregnancy center."
The most infuriating interview was with the former Governor of Mississippi who when asked what a pregnant woman or girl should do, his first answer was "prayer" to the "God of all of us." Bless his heart. His answer was essentially "why, yes, I want this country to be a Christian theocracy, why do you ask?"


Not really surprising is it?
 
2022-06-27 8:11:06 AM  
This is want you want in the judicial system.  They kicked it to the states as in state rights.  You want abortions for everyone great go vote for that and make it part of your state's constitution.  Any court has to make a decision based on law.  You have a right to protest PEACEFULLY (your message means nothing when you burn, break stuff).
 
2022-06-27 8:12:27 AM  

wow just wow: This is want you want in the judicial system.  They kicked it to the states as in state rights.  You want abortions for everyone great go vote for that and make it part of your state's constitution.  Any court has to make a decision based on law.  You have a right to protest PEACEFULLY (your message means nothing when you burn, break stuff).


You think the state governments listen to the voters?

Besides, I don't want ANY Americans subject to this barbarism.
 
2022-06-27 8:13:21 AM  
Dim Hyperbole
 
2022-06-27 8:18:59 AM  

karnal: Dim Hyperbole


Then why support it?
 
2022-06-27 8:19:04 AM  
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2022-06-27 8:19:33 AM  

wow just wow: This is want you want in the judicial system.  They kicked it to the states as in state rights.  You want abortions for everyone great go vote for that and make it part of your state's constitution.  Any court has to make a decision based on law.  You have a right to protest PEACEFULLY (your message means nothing when you burn, break stuff).


You guys said the same thing about slavery as well.
 
2022-06-27 8:20:02 AM  
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2022-06-27 8:20:37 AM  
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2022-06-27 8:20:45 AM  
I would love to see the Blue states band together, with the help of allies overseas, just Russia these red state deplorables back to 2022 Russia.
 
2022-06-27 8:21:08 AM  
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