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2022-06-26 2:53:11 PM  
Methyl alcohol deaths are common in SA.
 
2022-06-26 2:54:05 PM  
Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?
 
2022-06-26 2:55:59 PM  
Methaqualone?
 
2022-06-26 2:56:49 PM  
They had the fish?
 
2022-06-26 3:45:33 PM  
It was the salmon mousse.
 
2022-06-26 3:46:56 PM  
Spanish Inquisition?

/no one ever expects that
 
2022-06-26 3:57:02 PM  
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2022-06-26 4:07:34 PM  

eurotrader: Methyl alcohol deaths are common in SA.


That takes time, people get sick, people go for medical treatment. They don't all die at once.

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


Carbon monoxide, likely.
 
2022-06-26 4:10:10 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


My guess.
 
2022-06-26 4:10:47 PM  
Someone spike a bottle with fentanyl? Or the Jim Jones cocktail?
 
2022-06-26 4:10:50 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


You need carbon trioxide to kill that many people. Maybe even carbon quadroxide.
 
2022-06-26 4:10:58 PM  
Just going to overlook the witchcraft angle?

It starts off with the evil eye, then some hexes and soon you're stealing penises and killing bars full of people.
 
2022-06-26 4:12:33 PM  
They sell Bud Lite there?
 
2022-06-26 4:13:01 PM  
I've heard that alcohol is pretty sketchy most places in the world, even some countries in Europe. My guess is bad booze.
 
2022-06-26 4:14:05 PM  
I was wondering if they were near one of those lakes that can belch out huge amounts of methane or carbon monoxide. But from looking at the map, they're not near a lake.
 
2022-06-26 4:14:18 PM  
Bad booze or kool-aid.
 
2022-06-26 4:15:24 PM  
Passengers of MH370?
 
2022-06-26 4:15:58 PM  
Underage drinking.
 
2022-06-26 4:16:34 PM  
This was just a test
 
2022-06-26 4:17:06 PM  
I read someone let off pepper spray and the kids were trampled from people trying to get out. Guess that was all BS.
 
2022-06-26 4:17:10 PM  

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That should be "an uppercut".
 
2022-06-26 4:18:16 PM  
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2022-06-26 4:18:47 PM  
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2022-06-26 4:19:53 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


It's starting to drop below 50 at night there, someone turned on the heater for the first time of the year without servicing it first?
 
2022-06-26 4:20:33 PM  
Whatever killed these people was silent but deadly.
 
2022-06-26 4:23:12 PM  
Pretty sure it was death that killed them. In second place, hypoxia. It kills us all.
 
2022-06-26 4:23:46 PM  
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2022-06-26 4:24:49 PM  
In order of liklihood:

1. Carbon Monoxide poisoning
2. Methanol poisoning
3. Pesticide poisoning

I don't think anything else is even remotely likely. It ain't Havana Syndrome.
 
2022-06-26 4:25:08 PM  
Bet it took them less than an hour to get in.
 
2022-06-26 4:25:19 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


Some bars actually make a concoction of that stuff dissolved in dihydrogen monoxide, sometimes with flavor added, and then try to sell it to customers.
 
2022-06-26 4:25:48 PM  

BafflerMeal: Pretty sure it was death that killed them. In second place, hypoxia. It kills us all.


Shakes tiny 🤘
 
2022-06-26 4:25:54 PM  
Late term abortions
 
2022-06-26 4:26:25 PM  
Covid!
 
2022-06-26 4:27:32 PM  

eurotrader: Methyl alcohol deaths are common in SA.


Yeah, throwing my hat in the ring early and saying tainted moonshine.
 
2022-06-26 4:27:39 PM  
Heaven's Gate?
 
2022-06-26 4:28:15 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


Carbon....dioxoide?
 
2022-06-26 4:28:15 PM  
Did they check if the Donner party made reservations?
 
TWX
2022-06-26 4:28:56 PM  
No reports on survivors that made it out or the relative positions of the bodies.

I could see an illegal 'tavern' serving kids having a very limited selection of alcohol, and all of that alcohol being tainted.  But then again I would expect some of the victims that might've had more body mass or having consumed less alcohol see other victims of lesser build or having consumed more succumb first, and try to leave the place.  Some might well still succumb, but one would expect at least a few to have lived.  This might leave a scene where most died at their seats, some died in a sort of knot of bodies at the door, and some had managed to make it outside.
We'll just have to wait for the medical examiner results.
 
2022-06-26 4:29:04 PM  
It has to be a chemical poisoning of some kind (carbon monoxide most likely from a bad heater) if they were found dead inside. Maybe mixing of cleaning products could kill as quick but most likely some would have escaped.  Methanol poisoning would be slower and they would have had a chance to self-transport or die at home/hospital.
 
2022-06-26 4:29:27 PM  
White American male?

Just a guess
 
2022-06-26 4:29:43 PM  

BafflerMeal: Pretty sure it was death that killed them. In second place, hypoxia. It kills us all.


Cardiac arrest is often reported in deaths.  They should check that too.
 
2022-06-26 4:31:03 PM  

Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?


Probably carbon monoxide. Those cheap taverns don't usually want to shell out for that extra oxide, you know how much more that would cost?

No, if you want two oxides to go with your carbon molecule you'll just have to bring the extra one in yourself, you lazy bum.
 
2022-06-26 4:31:10 PM  

KangTheMad: Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?

Carbon....dioxoide?


mrmopar5287: Carbon monoxide, likely


LordOfThePings: You need carbon trioxide to kill that many people. Maybe even carbon quadroxide


I don't use the term "Carbon Monoxide" as much as I do "Carbon Dioxide", so you can all eat a soggy biscuit.
 
2022-06-26 4:31:19 PM  

studebaker hoch: Thoreny: Mass carbon dioxide poisoning?

Some bars actually make a concoction of that stuff dissolved in dihydrogen monoxide, sometimes with flavor added, and then try to sell it to customers.


Not flavoring!

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2022-06-26 4:31:25 PM  

eurotrader: Methyl alcohol deaths are common in SA.


That's my guess
 
2022-06-26 4:31:26 PM  
Someone probably heard you can get drunk on cyanide or such as then made homebrew out of it.

I lived in SA for years I would not be surprised if i was right.
 
2022-06-26 4:33:17 PM  

schezar: In order of liklihood:

1. Carbon Monoxide poisoning
2. Methanol poisoning
3. Pesticide poisoning

I don't think anything else is even remotely likely. It ain't Havana Syndrome.


Or they were all first-born sons and failed to observe Passover.

Not many people know this, but when King James translated the Bible, England had not yet 'discovered' South Africa and just substituted "Egyptians" because close enough, right?. He also failed geography in grade school.

Corrected KJV:

Exodus 12:23

23For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians South Africans; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
 
2022-06-26 4:33:54 PM  
My guess is they were bald and pirates were looking for gold in their heads.
 
2022-06-26 4:34:19 PM  
Waiting for "Covid vaccines got a whole bunch at once" facebook and twitter headlines
 
TWX
2022-06-26 4:35:44 PM  

B0redd: Someone probably heard you can get drunk on cyanide or such as then made homebrew out of it.

I lived in SA for years I would not be surprised if i was right.


I did a cursory look up of the effects of methanol on the human body, so I find your speculation more likely than methanol.  It looks like the metabolic process resulting in death from even straight methanol times considerably more time than what one would expect from even a tavernful of intoxicated patrons drinking the stuff straight to cause.  Methanol would kill, but the effects would not be so localized as some patrons would've made it out or even home before succumbing.
 
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