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(KUTV Utah)   Hikers barely escape a flash flood in Utah in an area known as GRAND WASH   (kutv.com) divider line
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2022-06-26 2:28:34 AM  
'experienced flash floods very quickly.'
Well there's your problem right there.
 
2022-06-26 2:30:23 AM  
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2022-06-26 2:30:25 AM  
One of the hikers is miscarrying in utah..
What do we do???

Fark utah, fark anyone that goes there.
 
2022-06-26 2:30:27 AM  
I bet they'll go to Death Valley with only a 20oz bottle of water, next.
 
2022-06-26 2:32:04 AM  
Next abortion facility: 1700 miles
 
2022-06-26 2:32:05 AM  

Robinfro: I bet they'll go to Death Valley with only a 20oz bottle of water, next.


California still represents the Constitution.
 
2022-06-26 2:32:36 AM  
They should leave a bad review on TripAdvisor.
 
2022-06-26 2:33:10 AM  

trappedspirit: Next abortion facility: 1700 miles


Right on!!!!
 
2022-06-26 2:39:48 AM  
I used to make fun of people who got trapped or drowned in arroyos, until I was nearby one day and saw how crazy fast they fill up with fast-moving water and crushing debris. It's impressive nature (if you're watching from high ground).

I still make fun of them for going where they don't have a clue, but I also feel just a little pity that they never had the privilege of learning the right way.
 
2022-06-26 2:49:58 AM  
"Grand Wash" is the name of my Victorian Era-themed bath house.
 
2022-06-26 3:00:37 AM  
My kids have become national park snobs, they want to demote Capitol Reef to monument status and raise Craters of the Moon to park. I do think they have a point though.
 
2022-06-26 3:08:58 AM  
"Get a drain, Mormans"
 
2022-06-26 5:22:54 AM  

Iamos: My kids have become national park snobs, they want to demote Capitol Reef to monument status and raise Craters of the Moon to park. I do think they have a point though.


You are aware that the only difference between national parks and national monuments are how they were designated? One is an act of congress, and one is a presidential declaration. Other than that, they're both areas designated for protection. I used to think that monuments were just lesser parks until I learned this - some of the monuments are as nice as or nicer than some of the parks.

A monument can become a park, e.g. Sand Dunes NP. Don't know of any that have gone the opposite direction, though I think it is possible to be decommissioned.

/Trying to visit all the US National Parks
//When I visited some really nice monuments along the way I decided to expand my list to include monuments as well
///adding monuments makes visiting all of them nearly impossible
 
2022-06-26 6:00:08 AM  
Yeah, that's why they're called FLASH floods, dumbassmitter.

Not everyone wants to stay home and become part of their sofa lint.
 
2022-06-26 6:57:52 AM  
I rounded up my patrol fast enough when I saw it suddenly rain upcanyon. I told them to find a tree and climb.
And I sure did.
They followed 5 minutes after when they saw the wall of mud headed for us.
There was another patrol out that day in the canyons.
When you know something sometimes you have to lead, or at least try.
Some people. Well. Most people are to farking stupid to have situational awareness, and or cannot follow those who do.

See: Covid
 
2022-06-26 7:07:30 AM  
The Utah sar group posted about this on their Instagram. farking pernicious casuals ignoring all the warnings, requiring rescue.
 
2022-06-26 8:30:30 AM  
A road around the corner was called Fern Avenue.  People built houses on it, then complained their cellars flooded regularly, and the town should do something.  We reminded them, "You built on FERN Avenue.  Where do FERNS grow?  In swamps and bogs and wetlands."

Found out the only reason the road existed is because horses had trouble pulling wagons up the hilly main road, so Fern Ave was a sometimes-passable cutoff through un-farmable land.  Research, people.
 
2022-06-26 8:42:43 AM  
Yeah but did they get their TikTok footage in time?
 
2022-06-26 9:10:21 AM  

claytonemery: A road around the corner was called Fern Avenue.  People built houses on it, then complained their cellars flooded regularly, and the town should do something.  We reminded them, "You built on FERN Avenue.  Where do FERNS grow?  In swamps and bogs and wetlands."

Found out the only reason the road existed is because horses had trouble pulling wagons up the hilly main road, so Fern Ave was a sometimes-passable cutoff through un-farmable land.  Research, people.


I mean, ferns also grow in forests that don't flood regularly either. Ferns growing right near me but my building is built properly. Ymmv.
 
2022-06-26 9:14:11 AM  
Hiked that with my family last weekend.

Phew.
 
2022-06-26 9:24:04 AM  
If you're camping and wonder why there's a nice place in a crowded camp, where no one has put up a tent, you may find yourself in a similar situation.  Luckily it will only happen late at night, during a tremendous thunderstorm, that you find out.
 
2022-06-26 9:46:05 AM  
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2022-06-26 10:15:32 AM  

Iamos: My kids have become national park snobs, they want to demote Capitol Reef to monument status and raise Craters of the Moon to park. I do think they have a point though.


It's not really about them.

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2022-06-26 11:06:56 AM  
Hikers barely escape a flash flood in Utah in an area known as GRAND WASH

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2022-06-26 12:06:38 PM  

elevenhenry: Iamos: My kids have become national park snobs, they want to demote Capitol Reef to monument status and raise Craters of the Moon to park. I do think they have a point though.

You are aware that the only difference between national parks and national monuments are how they were designated? One is an act of congress, and one is a presidential declaration. Other than that, they're both areas designated for protection. I used to think that monuments were just lesser parks until I learned this - some of the monuments are as nice as or nicer than some of the parks.

A monument can become a park, e.g. Sand Dunes NP. Don't know of any that have gone the opposite direction, though I think it is possible to be decommissioned.

/Trying to visit all the US National Parks
//When I visited some really nice monuments along the way I decided to expand my list to include monuments as well
///adding monuments makes visiting all of them nearly impossible


It turns out this difference in designation is quite important as a monument is subject to the whims of the current presidential administration, as already demonstrated in Utah.
 
2022-06-26 12:11:38 PM  

claytonemery: A road around the corner was called Fern Avenue.  People built houses on it, then complained their cellars flooded regularly, and the town should do something.  We reminded them, "You built on FERN Avenue.  Where do FERNS grow?  In swamps and bogs and wetlands."

Found out the only reason the road existed is because horses had trouble pulling wagons up the hilly main road, so Fern Ave was a sometimes-passable cutoff through un-farmable land.  Research, people.


And yet Prospect Avenue in any city I've lived in has had anything but. On the other hand, there's also a Shotwell Ave in SF that is occasionally on the mark.
 
2022-06-26 12:22:34 PM  
MONSTER flash flood, debris flow in Johnson Canyon, Utah on July 16, 2018!
Youtube ORJtxkuD62E
 
2022-06-26 1:38:43 PM  

KB202: I used to make fun of people who got trapped or drowned in arroyos, until I was nearby one day and saw how crazy fast they fill up with fast-moving water and crushing debris. It's impressive nature (if you're watching from high ground).

I still make fun of them for going where they don't have a clue, but I also feel just a little pity that they never had the privilege of learning the right way.


You check the forecast before heading into such areas.
 
2022-06-26 2:18:20 PM  

KB202: I used to make fun of people who got trapped or drowned in arroyos, until I was nearby one day and saw how crazy fast they fill up with fast-moving water and crushing debris. It's impressive nature (if you're watching from high ground).

I still make fun of them for going where they don't have a clue, but I also feel just a little pity that they never had the privilege of learning the right way.


They probably had the privilege to learn but they thought they knew better.
Probably did a bunch of research too. Couple of podcast, bit a you tube and et voila. Instant expert.
Mes adieux...
 
2022-06-26 2:39:36 PM  

question_dj: The Utah sar group posted about this on their Instagram. farking pernicious casuals ignoring all the warnings, requiring rescue.


I absolutely loved the way you phrased your comment. "Pernicious casuals" wow.❤
 
2022-06-26 3:20:52 PM  

Loren: KB202: I used to make fun of people who got trapped or drowned in arroyos, until I was nearby one day and saw how crazy fast they fill up with fast-moving water and crushing debris. It's impressive nature (if you're watching from high ground).

I still make fun of them for going where they don't have a clue, but I also feel just a little pity that they never had the privilege of learning the right way.

You check the forecast before heading into such areas.


What's the scariest is that it can be hot, dry, and cloudless where you are and you aren't even aware of the rain up the watershed, miles from where you are.

I sometimes forget to check the weather and occasionally have a bad time. Damn, it's 90 at home and 40 up in the dang mountains!
 
2022-06-26 3:31:03 PM  

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2022-06-26 3:48:50 PM  
The difference between a truck and an SUV:

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2022-06-26 3:49:19 PM  

FrancoFile: [YouTube video: MONSTER flash flood, debris flow in Johnson Canyon, Utah on July 16, 2018!]


Where's the monster, though?
 
2022-06-26 5:55:06 PM  

ProfessorTerguson: One of the hikers is miscarrying in utah..
What do we do???

Fark utah, fark anyone that goes there.


Fark you, you worthless piece of shiat. Stop with your stereotyping bullshiat.
 
2022-06-26 5:57:07 PM  

Robinfro: I bet they'll go to Death Valley with only a 20oz bottle of water, next.


Yeah, you have no idea at all how this works. They're in a place that might have a true flash flood once every 3-4 years. There is no reason to avoid a wash. It's not a riverbed

And the storms? They can be MILES upstream, and can roll in when the weather looked clear. So just because they were hiking in a wash, it doesn't actually farking mean anything.
 
2022-06-26 6:45:10 PM  

Mikey1969: Robinfro: I bet they'll go to Death Valley with only a 20oz bottle of water, next.

Yeah, you have no idea at all how this works. They're in a place that might have a true flash flood once every 3-4 years. There is no reason to avoid a wash. It's not a riverbed

And the storms? They can be MILES upstream, and can roll in when the weather looked clear. So just because they were hiking in a wash, it doesn't actually farking mean anything.


Yawn. I  live just outside Capitol Reef and guided canyoneering there for decades. Grand Wash and parallel canyons typically flash 3-5 times a year. Sometimes small, sometimes huge. The recent tourism tsunami finally slammed into this magnificent park about three years ago. Unfortunately, most of the recent visitation upswing consists of the dumbest, most selfish and careless subset of the tourism population. Most care only about windshield tourism, short, flat walks with as little incline as possible, selfies, flying illegal drones, taking their dog on prohibited trails, trying to drive their 40-foot RV down narrow dirt roads with no space to turn around, ignoring and ridiculing warnings or regulations...and getting to the nearest restaurant in time to stuff their face after their days' 'adventure.'
They're like pet store gerbils released from a terrarium for the first time, but fatter and dumber. The only people who had a serious problem on this day were the ones dumb enough to keep walking as the sky turned black, and those who left their vehicle parked in the wash. Rangers and rescuers displayed saintlike patience in dealing with them.
 
2022-06-26 8:14:36 PM  
Fun Fact: In the Sahara Desert, more people die of drowning than die of thirst.
 
2022-06-26 8:43:24 PM  

ProfessorTerguson: One of the hikers is miscarrying in utah..
What do we do???

Fark utah, fark anyone that goes there.


If things go sideways in expelling the fetus, she can have an abortion in Utah - Utah's law allows abortions only if the mother's life is at risk, if the pregnancy was a result of rape or incest, or if two physicians who practice "maternal fetal medicine" both determine that the fetus "has a defect that is uniformly diagnosable and uniformly lethal or ... has a severe brain abnormality that is uniformly diagnosable." What she might have trouble doing is finding somewhere to be treated down there in the gorgeous Capital Reef area. Pears, peaches, apples from pioneer-scion trees? Sure. An emergency D&E? Might need a helicopter if she's bleeding out.
 
2022-06-27 1:07:29 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, you have no idea at all how this works. They're in a place that might have a true flash flood once every 3-4 years. There is no reason to avoid a wash. It's not a riverbed

Every gun is loaded.
 
2022-06-27 7:33:38 AM  

BonoboJeezus: Mikey1969: Robinfro:
Unfortunately, most of the recent visitation upswing consists of the dumbest, most selfish and careless subset of the tourism population. Most care only about windshield tourism, short, flat walks with as little incline as possible, selfies, flying illegal drones, taking their dog on prohibited trails, trying to drive their 40-foot RV down narrow dirt roads with no space to turn around, ignoring and ridiculing warnings or regulations...and getting to the nearest restaurant in time to stuff their face after their days' 'adventure.'
They're like pet store gerbils released from a terrarium for the first time, but fatter and dumber. The only people who had a serious problem on this day were the ones dumb enough to keep walking as the sky turned black, and those who left their vehicle parked in the wash. Rangers and rescuers displayed saintlike patience in dealing with them.


Just call them pernicious casuals.  That's what they are. Causing destruction through lack of care.
 
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