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(MSN)   MTG: the solution to school shootings is firearms training for children. Rep. Raskin: So are you proposing arming children? MTG: *glitch* *whirr* *smoke*   (msn.com) divider line
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2022-06-25 11:00:44 AM  
Oh, absolutely. That whole Sandy Hook tragedy could have been avoided if only those 6-year-olds had been packing heat.
 
2022-06-25 11:25:41 AM  
I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about. It won't fix the issue of school shootings, but it may reduce the number of "Kid shoots other kid/parent while playing with a loaded, unsecured gun" events.
 
2022-06-25 11:41:50 AM  
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2022-06-25 11:43:03 AM  

Bootleg: I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about. It won't fix the issue of school shootings, but it may reduce the number of "Kid shoots other kid/parent while playing with a loaded, unsecured gun" events.


Oh lookie. It's NRA nostalgia time.
 
2022-06-25 11:46:27 AM  
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(Dripping sarcasm) Looking at those numbers, obviously gun control doesn't work and we need to arm elementary school students.
 
2022-06-25 11:46:50 AM  
Bootleg: I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about.


After firearms safety class kids, we have a optional 'safe dosage for meth, and proper needle insertion class, along with how to purify heroin in chemistry 103' And you get to learn to use a tri balance scale....so we get the STEM credit!
 
2022-06-25 11:50:01 AM  
I took firearms safety classes as a boy scout. And reflecting back, there is absolutely no way that I would have been capable of wielding a farking firearm as a child, much less handle it in a live fire situation. The lack of critical analysis in their arguments is just a hallmark of how utterly disingenuous their positions are. I'm still not clear on why any media outlet outside of fox news runs anything they say, it has absolutely no legitimacy.
 
2022-06-25 11:50:10 AM  
MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.
 
2022-06-25 11:50:18 AM  

optikeye: Bootleg: I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about.


After firearms safety class kids, we have a optional 'safe dosage for meth, and proper needle insertion class, along with how to purify heroin in chemistry 103' And you get to learn to use a tri balance scale....so we get the STEM credit!


You seem to be very upset with the idea of teaching firearms safety to kids. Maybe you're thinking I mean marksmanship, cleaning, loading, or stuff like that instead of "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.
 
2022-06-25 12:05:36 PM  
An armed classroom full of ten-year-olds is a polite classroom full of ten-year-olds.
 
2022-06-25 12:07:07 PM  
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2022-06-25 12:13:22 PM  
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2022-06-25 12:16:20 PM  

Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.


Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?
 
2022-06-25 12:26:21 PM  

Bootleg: I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about. It won't fix the issue of school shootings, but it may reduce the number of "Kid shoots other kid/parent while playing with a loaded, unsecured gun" events.


Proper education in firearms safety illustrates that firearms are dangerously overrated in much the same ways as white people and evangelical christianism are.
 
2022-06-25 12:47:34 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.


She's not on the committee. She asked for the hearing so she would have a platform for her insanity.
 
2022-06-25 1:05:22 PM  
The solution to the problem of arson is more gasoline and matches.
 
2022-06-25 1:25:44 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: The solution to the problem of arson is more gasoline and matches.


uh

how are the cats?
 
2022-06-25 1:28:52 PM  

optikeye: Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.

Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?


"Class" like DARE was, which I remember just being a narcotics officer coming in for an hour and telling us to just say no, and talking about how drugs also include stuff like tobacco, and then having us do one or two 30-second role-playing scenarios where one kid offered another kid drugs and the other kid was supposed to say no.
 
2022-06-25 1:44:00 PM  

optikeye: Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.

Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?


Repetition is the key to learning. Having someone available to answer questions can help.

Again, you seem to be very against this idea. Why?
 
2022-06-25 1:44:01 PM  
I should clarify even though instilling the basics of firearm safety into everyone is a generally good idea, MTG is still MTG and her version of this concept does not fall in line with reality.
 
2022-06-25 1:54:28 PM  
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This was a parody not too long ago.
 
2022-06-25 1:56:02 PM  

giantmeteor: Three Crooked Squirrels: MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.

She's not on the committee. She asked for the hearing so she would have a platform for her insanity.


Ah. Thank you.
 
2022-06-25 2:35:29 PM  

Bootleg: optikeye: Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.

Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?

Repetition is the key to learning. Having someone available to answer questions can help.

Again, you seem to be very against this idea. Why?


Because when idiots suggest something and support something...I generally think it's a idiot idea.

Also, we've had NRA classes in school for decades...the only thing it really did was help mass shooters learn to take positions better, reload faster, and stake out places to shoot from like a Clock Tower, Library Depository, or Hotel Room with a Balcony.

If you want NRA classes...it should be mandatory for the PARENTS FIRST then the kids can have the class.
 
2022-06-25 2:40:07 PM  
The children ARE armed.

A fair number of them are in Congress.
 
2022-06-25 2:56:01 PM  

optikeye: Bootleg: optikeye: Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.

Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?

Repetition is the key to learning. Having someone available to answer questions can help.

Again, you seem to be very against this idea. Why?

Because when idiots suggest something and support something...I generally think it's a idiot idea.

Also, we've had NRA classes in school for decades...the only thing it really did was help mass shooters learn to take positions better, reload faster, and stake out places to shoot from like a Clock Tower, Library Depository, or Hotel Room with a Balcony.

If you want NRA classes...it should be mandatory for the PARENTS FIRST then the kids can have the class.


So, you keep disagreeing with my idea because MTG recommended something similar but different? Is that right?

I'm unfamiliar with NRA classes in school (They didn't have them when I was in school as far as I can remember, but I left school a couple years after Columbine so maybe they came after), but from research it looks like they're more advanced than what I'm suggesting. I don't want to teach the kids how to store a firearm, or how to unload a firearm, I want to teach them that firearms are dangerous and they should be avoided until they're older. I think the NRA would actually actively disagree with that idea.

Also, I'm trying to keep it to a 30-minute class to be given twice annually to elementary school kids. My goal is to reduce the number of times one kid shoots someone because they were playing with a loaded weapon.
 
2022-06-25 2:59:30 PM  

Bootleg: So, you keep disagreeing with my idea because MTG recommended something similar but different? Is that right?


Yeah, Sure..it's all because MTG recommended it. Yup, that's it. Exactly.

/that was sarcasm.
 
2022-06-25 3:06:56 PM  
When you hear someone say "we need to return to God" as a follow-up to proposing to arm & train children, what they're really saying is that it's time for the new Inquisitions.
 
2022-06-25 3:07:28 PM  
I mean, you could double down on what is not working, or you could do what almost every other country in the world has done with great results.

Nevermind, what am I even talking about? Double down on stupid and ineffective it is.
 
2022-06-25 3:09:17 PM  

KangTheMad: optikeye: Bootleg: "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.

Do you really need an entire "CLASS" for something you could write on a fortune cookie?

"Class" like DARE was, which I remember just being a narcotics officer coming in for an hour and telling us to just say no, and talking about how drugs also include stuff like tobacco, and then having us do one or two 30-second role-playing scenarios where one kid offered another kid drugs and the other kid was supposed to say no.


DARE was an abject failure, btw.
 
2022-06-25 3:09:51 PM  

Bootleg: optikeye: Bootleg: I'm okay with a firearms safety class, since apparently the existence of firearms is something we can't do anything about.


After firearms safety class kids, we have a optional 'safe dosage for meth, and proper needle insertion class, along with how to purify heroin in chemistry 103' And you get to learn to use a tri balance scale....so we get the STEM credit!

You seem to be very upset with the idea of teaching firearms safety to kids. Maybe you're thinking I mean marksmanship, cleaning, loading, or stuff like that instead of "Guns are dangerous, if you find a gun notify an adult. Do not point a gun at anyone. Definitely don't pull the trigger" type of class. So, DARE but for guns.


Considering how effective DARE was, I'm pretty sure a class like this would triple school shootings.
 
2022-06-25 3:10:03 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: When you hear someone say "we need to return to God" as a follow-up to proposing to arm & train children, what they're really saying is that it's time for the new Inquisitions.


Of course, they don't like to come out and say that it's time for the new Inquisitions.  Surprise IS their chief weapon.
 
2022-06-25 3:12:06 PM  

HighOnCraic: rzrwiresunrise: When you hear someone say "we need to return to God" as a follow-up to proposing to arm & train children, what they're really saying is that it's time for the new Inquisitions.

Of course, they don't like to come out and say that it's time for the new Inquisitions.  Surprise IS their chief weapon.


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It's not a sneak attack
 
2022-06-25 3:12:28 PM  
I guess that letting kids bring guns to school to protect themselves will save the next crop of school-shooters from having trouble smuggling in their weapons. JFC, does she not realize that the shooters are usually registered students at the schools that they shoot up?
 
2022-06-25 3:12:55 PM  
No one has ever accused her of having any intelligence.
 
2022-06-25 3:15:40 PM  
"We don't need more gun control," Greene said in a tweet. "We need to return to God."

I'm betting almost all of this year's crop of mass shooters self-identified as devoutly Christian.
 
2022-06-25 3:15:44 PM  
You know how you teach gun saftey, you give them fake guns and smoke the living shiat out of them anytime they screw up.

You can learn the rules in a classroom, you can only internalize them with practice.
 
2022-06-25 3:16:00 PM  

KangTheMad: "Class" like DARE was, which I remember just being a narcotics officer coming in for an hour and telling us to just say no, and talking about how drugs also include stuff like tobacco, and then having us do one or two 30-second role-playing scenarios where one kid offered another kid drugs and the other kid was supposed to say no.



I wonder if Cops go through that kinda roleplay training. Where someone folds up a 20 in their Drivers License and they have to decide to keep the 20 or beat the person. And their partner is just saying "Hey, Give me 10 of that"
Then after the 'training session' is over they just Laugh, and Laugh.
 
2022-06-25 3:16:02 PM  
seriously, just fu*king die already.
 
2022-06-25 3:16:36 PM  
I am so sick of MTG. Every day, every announcement she makes is yet another hideous embarrassment for the entire country. She's not qualified to be a manager at McDonald's, let alone a Congressional representative. And every time I think she couldn't possibly say anything dumber than her last statement, she somehow manages to do so yet again.

Just...f*cking go away already you crazy loudmouth dunderheaded pest. I'm sure there's a PTA meeting or church social somewhere where you are sorely missed.
 
2022-06-25 3:16:46 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.


They told her to put it back on IT BURNS IT BURNS!
 
2022-06-25 3:17:23 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.


they caved to her demands after she threatened them at barefootpoint
 
2022-06-25 3:18:32 PM  
A battle of wits with an unarmed person
 
2022-06-25 3:18:33 PM  
Even a simple caveperson wouldn't say something so stupi-... oh dammit n/m
 
2022-06-25 3:18:46 PM  

Madison_Smiled: Oh, absolutely. That whole Sandy Hook tragedy could have been avoided if only those 6-year-olds had been packing heat.


They should have pulled up their boot straps and a gun out of the ankle holster. Their parents should have taken them to Tactics for Toddlers class as soon as they could walk  too. If your snowflake is not able to perform  at the level of a world class special forces operator by age six you are just asking for trouble. Get out the ammo and the pint size body armor. Its time to lock and load children!
 
2022-06-25 3:18:54 PM  
"We don't need more gun control," Greene said in a tweet. "We need to return to God."


Well, MTG, GO ON...GET A MOVE ON...WE'RE WAITING.
 
2022-06-25 3:20:05 PM  
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2022-06-25 3:20:29 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: HighOnCraic: rzrwiresunrise: When you hear someone say "we need to return to God" as a follow-up to proposing to arm & train children, what they're really saying is that it's time for the new Inquisitions.

Of course, they don't like to come out and say that it's time for the new Inquisitions.  Surprise IS their chief weapon.

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It's not a sneak attack


Jesus Christ. There it is, right out in the open.  For anyone here that doesn't know those cases, they want to go back to racially based "separate but equal" facilities, and schools to be able to racially segregate.
 
2022-06-25 3:22:31 PM  

starsrift: I mean, you could double down on what is not working, or you could do what almost every other country in the world has done with great results.

Nevermind, what am I even talking about? Double down on stupid and ineffective it is.


Murica!
 
2022-06-25 3:22:57 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MYG is on the Rules Committee?  I thought she was stripped of all committee assignments.


As you can plainly see, she makes her own rules.
 
2022-06-25 3:24:02 PM  
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