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2022-06-25 9:05:45 AM  
I'm disgusted that they were given this long of a deadline.
I'm even more disgusted at the number of guard members who have yet to get the shot.
 
2022-06-25 9:08:34 AM  
Grumpy cat good.

The sooner we drive these anti-vax morons from civilized society the better the world will be.

Maybe we can just designate some island somewhere where they can sit around in their own filth and masturbate to Ben Garrison drawings of muscular Dolt45?
 
2022-06-25 9:35:00 AM  
I would have thought this deadline was like a year and a half ago.
 
2022-06-25 9:38:07 AM  
Do those assholes think they have bodily autonomy or something?
 
2022-06-25 9:39:26 AM  
Dismiss them. At this point if you haven't gotten vaccinated, you're probably to goddamned stupid to duck when people are shooting at you. We don't need you.
 
2022-06-25 9:40:00 AM  
"My body, my choice", they will say without a hint of irony.
 
2022-06-25 9:40:09 AM  
Used to be just separate those who refuse lawful orders.  It's been an all-volunteer system for decades- nobody is forcing them to stay in.
 
2022-06-25 9:40:49 AM  
I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.
 
2022-06-25 9:41:56 AM  

Valter: He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.


Same here. We weren't asked if we wanted them, we weren't told what we were being vaccinated for, we just did what we were ordered to.
 
2022-06-25 9:42:41 AM  
they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!
 
2022-06-25 9:43:14 AM  
I would've imagined enlisting would require the usual battery of vaccine shots such as MMR anyway. Did they refuse those as well?
 
2022-06-25 9:48:22 AM  

Valter: He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I


Republican Trumpers. You know, Idiots.
 
2022-06-25 9:50:04 AM  

mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!


Fill out the snowflake's separation paperwork for them.
 
2022-06-25 9:50:27 AM  

Fear the Clam: Dismiss them. At this point if you haven't gotten vaccinated, you're probably to goddamned stupid to duck when people are shooting at you. We don't need you.


Give them a direct order to get 1 today and discharge them for refusing an order.
 
2022-06-25 9:52:00 AM  

mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!


I wonder what religion allowed them to get all those other shots but not this one
 
2022-06-25 9:53:30 AM  

mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!


If they didn't get exemptions for the vast array of shots they took when they first joined they shouldn't be "working" with them at all.  JFC.
 
DVD
2022-06-25 9:55:59 AM  
 
2022-06-25 10:02:14 AM  

SpectroBoy: Grumpy cat good.

The sooner we drive these anti-vax morons from civilized society the better the world will be.

Maybe we can just designate some island somewhere where they can sit around in their own filth and masturbate to Ben Garrison drawings of muscular Dolt45?


I recommend this island.

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Of course there is a danger if the density is increased too much...

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2022-06-25 10:03:34 AM  

kendricd: I would have thought this deadline was like a year and a half ago.


Does it really surprise you? If the government says tomorrow it's acutely two years away. I'd say they are right on track.
 
2022-06-25 10:04:38 AM  
I was never given any choice in anything when I was in the service.
I guess Republicans have made the military into a bunch of snowflakes.
 
2022-06-25 10:08:27 AM  

ctighe2353: mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!

I wonder what religion allowed them to get all those other shots but not this one


Doesn't matter - once you have codified the "right" to use your superstitions as an excuse to break the law, appropriate superstitions to allow people to do whatever they want will be conveniently concocted.
 
2022-06-25 10:08:27 AM  

Valter: I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.


For the duration it wasn't FDA approved, military members could refuse. This came about when the Emergency Use Authorization was created after 9/11 and EUA was granted for anthrax vaccines. Refusal of that worked up the court system but before the matter was fully settled the anthrax vaccine was fully approved, mooting the refusals and subsequent court cases.

The SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were EUA and therefor the military members could refuse them. Now that they are fully approved, it's a problem.
 
2022-06-25 10:23:23 AM  
The Vin diagram of Guardsmen who have refused to get the shot up to this point, and who steal ammo, explosives, and gun parts for their right wing militia buddies outside of the guard, is probably just one big circle.

Dump their asses.
 
2022-06-25 10:27:31 AM  

Aquapope: Do those assholes think they have bodily autonomy or something?


They do. They're free to leave the guard if they don't want it.
 
2022-06-25 10:27:54 AM  
Got the anti-anthrax shot for Desert Storm.  Don't remember anyone jumping out of line for jesus reasons.

Can't tell you all the shots I got in Basic and on active duty because I lost my vax record.

First Sergeant:  Following this formation, you will fall in to three lines over there by the table:  Officers, Senior Enlisted and Enlisted.  In accordance with AR- (blah blah) you will receive the COVID shot.  If you are already vaccinated, present proof of said vaccination to the medical supervisor.

Those who desire to not get this vaccine can report for out processing. Any bonuses will have to be repaid in full.
 
2022-06-25 10:30:05 AM  
Kick out the anti-vaxers AND take away any firearms they accumulated while serving.
 
2022-06-25 10:32:02 AM  

kendricd: I would have thought this deadline was like a year and a half ago.


December 2020?  It wasn't even available to most people at that point.
 
2022-06-25 10:35:40 AM  

mistahtom: Kick out the anti-vaxers AND take away any firearms they accumulated while serving.


Yeah! And take away their graphics cards, towels, and patio furniture!
 
2022-06-25 10:39:41 AM  
"...at least 14,000 of them have flatly refused and could be forced out of the service."

Yeah. Fuck them right out the door.
 
2022-06-25 10:40:12 AM  
Just in time to join up with "well regulated" militias for the coming civil war.
 
2022-06-25 10:45:46 AM  

Valter: I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.


That accurately describes my Navy boot experience. Plus the 'Peanut butter' shot (big ol' multi-spectrum antibiotic right in the butt cheek of your choice.)
And the very worst part was that getting the shots was basically the signal for 'medically cleared', which means we got marched directly from medical to the 3rd worst PT session I went through in boot. Keeping in mind that we'd just had a bunch of painful muscle shots.
 
2022-06-25 10:45:55 AM  

SpectroBoy: Grumpy cat good.

The sooner we drive these anti-vax morons from civilized society the better the world will be.

Maybe we can just designate some island somewhere where they can sit around in their own filth and masturbate to Ben Garrison drawings of muscular Dolt45?


Um, the word world be better off if more people died, not less.  Let the deniers, antivaxers and those to delicate to get a shot die, the rest of us will be better off.
 
2022-06-25 10:46:42 AM  

kendricd: I would have thought this deadline was like a year and a half ago.


We only got the vaccine end of 2020, so a year and a half would be rollout of the first shots.
 
2022-06-25 10:47:10 AM  

Valter: No, I don't know. Please explain your alleged facts. I enjoy a little light reading on a Saturday morning.


Oh shiat dude, I thought it was Sunday in the north-western semihemisphere right up until I read your comment.

Thanks, fark buddy!

/i am extremely bad at calendars
 
2022-06-25 10:49:58 AM  
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2022-06-25 10:56:48 AM  
Why do I get the feeling that this decision is going to make a lot people miss boat payments.
 
2022-06-25 10:56:58 AM  
But isn't Covid pretty much over?  Getting the shot now would be akin to getting shot in All Quiet On The Western Front.
 
2022-06-25 10:57:51 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm disgusted that they were given this long of a deadline.
I'm even more disgusted at the number of guard members who have yet to get the shot.

I never heard they were known for their smarts.

 
2022-06-25 10:58:28 AM  

Royce P: But isn't Covid pretty much over?  Getting the shot now would be akin to getting shot in All Quiet On The Western Front.


You have been misinformed.
 
2022-06-25 10:58:33 AM  

BlippityBleep: Used to be just separate those who refuse lawful orders.  It's been an all-volunteer system for decades- nobody is forcing them to stay in.


Because the statement isn't ironic
 
2022-06-25 10:59:34 AM  

mrmopar5287: Valter: I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.

For the duration it wasn't FDA approved, military members could refuse. This came about when the Emergency Use Authorization was created after 9/11 and EUA was granted for anthrax vaccines. Refusal of that worked up the court system but before the matter was fully settled the anthrax vaccine was fully approved, mooting the refusals and subsequent court cases.

The SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were EUA and therefor the military members could refuse them. Now that they are fully approved, it's a problem.


Is being shot at FDA approved?
 
2022-06-25 11:01:35 AM  

PirateKing: Valter: I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.

That accurately describes my Navy boot experience. Plus the 'Peanut butter' shot (big ol' multi-spectrum antibiotic right in the butt cheek of your choice.)
And the very worst part was that getting the shots was basically the signal for 'medically cleared', which means we got marched directly from medical to the 3rd worst PT session I went through in boot. Keeping in mind that we'd just had a bunch of painful muscle shots.


But done so quickly. Grumpy remembers it was kind of like some kind of ray-gun. All cattle march in line, get shot, march on.
 
2022-06-25 11:01:37 AM  
If you're afraid of getting shot, you shouldn't be  joining the National Guard.
 
2022-06-25 11:03:58 AM  

chitownmike: BlippityBleep: Used to be just separate those who refuse lawful orders.  It's been an all-volunteer system for decades- nobody is forcing them to stay in.

Because the statement isn't ironic


What's the irony?
Enployer says do X or find new job. Happens every day.
 
2022-06-25 11:04:55 AM  
Given that the Guard is called in constantly for disaster relief, the last thing we need is them spreading the farking plague to a packed gym of 400 hurricane survivors.
 
2022-06-25 11:05:50 AM  

jso2897: ctighe2353: mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!

I wonder what religion allowed them to get all those other shots but not this one

Doesn't matter - once you have codified the "right" to use your superstitions as an excuse to break the law, appropriate superstitions to allow people to do whatever they want will be conveniently concocted.


The Achille's Heel of modern democracy is the confluence of these two factors:

- Stupid people are allowed to vote
- Stupid people are helped to survive
 
2022-06-25 11:06:07 AM  

I Swear I'll Jump: Royce P: But isn't Covid pretty much over?  Getting the shot now would be akin to getting shot in All Quiet On The Western Front.

You have been misinformed.


I doubt it. My surmise it that he is tugging at our pedal extremity.
 
2022-06-25 11:09:09 AM  

Zeroth Law: kendricd: I would have thought this deadline was like a year and a half ago.

We only got the vaccine end of 2020, so a year and a half would be rollout of the first shots.


Huh, that seems like forever ago. I guess I've come unstuck in the Covid timeline.
 
2022-06-25 11:12:42 AM  

noitsnot: jso2897: ctighe2353: mrmopar5287: they will work with the roughly 7,000 who have sought exemptions, which are almost all for religious reasons

Work with them HOW?!

I wonder what religion allowed them to get all those other shots but not this one

Doesn't matter - once you have codified the "right" to use your superstitions as an excuse to break the law, appropriate superstitions to allow people to do whatever they want will be conveniently concocted.

The Achille's Heel of modern democracy is the confluence of these two factors:

- Stupid people are allowed to vote
- Stupid people are helped to survive


I've heard people emit that opinion before.
I always ask them to provide me with a superior alternative to democracy, thus ending the conversation for all practical purposes.
 
2022-06-25 11:15:20 AM  

Valter: I think I've told this story before. I asked my dad about what kinds of vaccinations he got in basic. He told me they marched in a line and got multiple in both arms. Like a dang assembly line.

So what's the issue with this one? I've had two and a booster and had zero problems with them.


TFG made it a war on libs.
 
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