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2022-06-24 8:08:26 PM  
I saw Ray Charles in concert in the 80s and holy shiat was that old man cranky. Someone in the audience yelled out "we love you Ray" between songs and he tore a strip off the guy for it. "Don't you yell stuff at me! Don't you yell at me! Treat me like a symphony orchestra. You wouldn't go see Beethoven and yell out 'we love you Beethoven'." and this was after he delayed starting his concert by an hour.

Then he yelled at the sound man and the bassist, and the drummer, and one of the guitarists and generally let it be known that he was hating ever moment he was spending at this venue. I have no idea what set him off that day but holy shiat was he one cranky old man.
 
2022-06-24 9:23:19 PM  
I've worked a few venues that had Celine Dion, and did the on-site catering. It's not that she is rude--she can't be bothered to even show up unless there are cameras. What struck me was how rude her entire staff was. A tour gets their cues from their act, and every single one of her crew were entitled, rude and constantly trying to demand sh*t that was NOWHERE on their rider. Just chislin' whiners.

Worked only two shows with Kid Rock. He's a miserable f*ckhead who was desperate for attention. He and his crew were just tiring to be near, because they wanted to impress everyone around them with HOW big they were, and how important they were. ZZ Top? Everyone associated with their tour was aces. Same with Aerosmith. Even No Doubt were great to work with for these festivals. Please, thank you, all the way around. Kid Rock? I can't begin to describe HOW many times we got to hear, "do you know who I am?" F*ck him. Especially now that he's aging into a Mike Lindell clone.

Best act? Hands down, Willy Nelson. A tour gets their cues from the headliner, and Willy has a tight crew, and every single one of them has been polite, decent, and really great with the fans. And on time. On time is huge for a venue. It means we don't get rushed to set up, it means no one is wasting our time, and it makes everything run smoother. Heck, his security washed their own dishes. It was a pleasure to have them in the joint and to work with. Pros all the way.

Second best? There are some folks who I personally like, because of working at venues and seeing them repeatedly, but The Black Eyed Peas I only fed once, and I was impressed. Not only on time, not only ran through their soundcheck in record time, and without any sort of drama, they put in some promo work for the venue, some local radio stations, and one of the stations had fans visit them backstage, and they were brilliant with them. And they weren't just polite, but genuinely friendly with all the venue staff, thanking them for coming in and putting up with them. Which wasn't hard, because they were so decent to everyone. They worked their asses off before the show, and after with their fans.
 
2022-06-24 9:47:15 PM  
Van Halen's Brown M&Ms on the rider was apparently to ensure the venue followed instruction - and would take care to ensure the stage was set as they needed for the show, and that no-one took shortcuts that compromised safety...
 
2022-06-24 9:51:16 PM  
And the list doesn't include Andrew Eldritch....
 
2022-06-24 9:55:14 PM  
Boy, there's a loose definition of musician. But, yeah, don't ignore Grace Jones.
 
2022-06-24 9:55:17 PM  
Spade Cooley - beat his estranged wife to death, forced his 14-year old daughter to watch
 
2022-06-24 9:57:55 PM  

Ghastly: I saw Ray Charles in concert in the 80s and holy shiat was that old man cranky. Someone in the audience yelled out "we love you Ray" between songs and he tore a strip off the guy for it. "Don't you yell stuff at me! Don't you yell at me! Treat me like a symphony orchestra. You wouldn't go see Beethoven and yell out 'we love you Beethoven'." and this was after he delayed starting his concert by an hour.

Then he yelled at the sound man and the bassist, and the drummer, and one of the guitarists and generally let it be known that he was hating ever moment he was spending at this venue. I have no idea what set him off that day but holy shiat was he one cranky old man.


Well, at least nobody reminded him that Beethoven went deaf, so there was no point in yelling at him
 
2022-06-24 9:59:00 PM  
Sebastian Bach.

My favorite moment of his was when he was getting interviewed by someone from Much Music. The interviewer correctly commented that Skid Row and Poison had a lot of overlap in their fan bases and poor little Sebestian had a hissyfit and stormed out.
 
2022-06-24 10:03:16 PM  
I'm more surprised how low Gene Simmons and Ted Nuggent were on that list.
 
2022-06-24 10:07:22 PM  
List fails if Roger Waters isn't #1.
 
2022-06-24 10:09:00 PM  
Mike Love isn't cranky, he is just a douchebag.
 
2022-06-24 10:12:04 PM  

Ghastly: I saw Ray Charles in concert in the 80s and holy shiat was that old man cranky. Someone in the audience yelled out "we love you Ray" between songs and he tore a strip off the guy for it. "Don't you yell stuff at me! Don't you yell at me! Treat me like a symphony orchestra. You wouldn't go see Beethoven and yell out 'we love you Beethoven'." and this was after he delayed starting his concert by an hour.

Then he yelled at the sound man and the bassist, and the drummer, and one of the guitarists and generally let it be known that he was hating ever moment he was spending at this venue. I have no idea what set him off that day but holy shiat was he one cranky old man.


I'm not justifying anything that man did that night, but I don't remember what years he was getting off heroin, and also, I imagine that if you're blind, people yelling at you might affect you hearing what you're playing, and you might not know if you're delivering the best show.

I usually hate devil's advocates, and I apologize for being that guy, but there may be some nuance.
 
2022-06-24 10:13:22 PM  
Dave Mustaine.  A concert should be a party, not a stage for political rants.
 
2022-06-24 10:25:19 PM  
After seeing Mike Love there, CSB time...

Local guy doing afternoon drive time got to interview Brian Wilson.  The interviewer is an incredibly smart guy and had an obvious love for the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson. He did all his research before the interview. He had some great questions, in-depth and leading. Brian Wilson would answer with one or two word answers. You could hear the life just disappearing from the interviewer. It was absolutely brutal. Never felt so bad for a radio personality ever.

/CSB
 
2022-06-24 10:26:05 PM  
Oh, and fark Morrissey.
 
2022-06-24 10:33:04 PM  

bluorangefyre: List fails if Roger Waters isn't #1.


Captain Beefheart threw his drummer down a flight of stairs and left his name off the album credits.
 
2022-06-24 10:33:48 PM  
Where is Ike Turner on this stupid list?
 
2022-06-24 10:34:08 PM  
Pop stars.

Charlie Mingus famously punched out his trombonist, on stage, ruining his embouchure for years. Sidney Bechet shot at another musician who had claimed Bechet had played a wrong note. (Bechet was thrown out of France for that.) Jellyroll Morton was such a pill his funeral was attended by around 4 people.
 
2022-06-24 11:10:09 PM  
Neat article, but I think the funniest part was calling egg whites, turkey bacon, fried chicken and salad with Italian dressing a "borderline insane" request. Cleary they have never worked in a restaurant - an insane request would be demanding all the sesame seeds be plucked off of your hamburger bun, or a milkshake served at "room temperature so I can drink it" to be more in line with that. Her request sounds more like a standard lunch order.
 
2022-06-24 11:11:56 PM  

DoughyGuy: Neat article, but I think the funniest part was calling egg whites, turkey bacon, fried chicken and salad with Italian dressing a "borderline insane" request.


What if you're at a bank teller window?
 
2022-06-24 11:14:15 PM  
How the hell didn't that asshole from Staind and Eric Clapton make the list? They should definitely be on the short list. Elvis Costello and Bob Dylan should probably be on there too. And Lars from Metallica? Can't forget him. Ok we just need a longer list here. Who else are we missing?
 
2022-06-24 11:20:04 PM  

EdgeRunner: DoughyGuy: Neat article, but I think the funniest part was calling egg whites, turkey bacon, fried chicken and salad with Italian dressing a "borderline insane" request.

What if you're at a bank teller window?


Sir, this is a Wells Fargo...
 
2022-06-24 11:23:31 PM  
Ian MacKaye from Fugazi can get biatchy at a misbehaving crowd.
 
2022-06-24 11:25:27 PM  
Flip side: I once got to film Julie Andrews doing a charity gig with a children's chorus. She was wonderful with the kids, of course, but also utterly charming and sweet with the crew while being impressively professional about the whole process. A star since she was a teenager, she was still a delightful, genuinely nice person.
 
2022-06-24 11:26:52 PM  
During [David Crosby's] years with his band-The Byrds, who later became Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

*facepalm*
 
2022-06-24 11:42:09 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Where is Ike Turner on this stupid list?


Right behind Sinaed O'Connor.  I was looking for them both.  Though I don't know if I'd call Ike "cranky".  If it's "curmudgeonly" we're looking for, Eric Burdon?
 
2022-06-24 11:42:57 PM  

Sgygus: Dave Mustaine.  A concert should be a party, not a stage for political rants.


I met Dave Mustaine twice. First time my friend took a Hershey's syrup from their backstage.

Second time, while in line to get autographs, Mustaine asked why my friend was giggling. When we told him that my friend took his chocolate syrup he responded with "I don't like chocolate syrup. I don't use chocolate syrup. fark you and your inside jokes."
/my Rust In Peace is signed by all 4 members
//RIP Nick Mensa
///Dave Mustaine told me to my face to "fark you"
 
2022-06-24 11:46:08 PM  
I've heard of John mayer implying he doesn't date out of his race but this is the first I've read of him using slurs casually. Then again, I don't follow that closely.
 
2022-06-24 11:47:42 PM  

i_dig_chicks: Ian MacKaye from Fugazi can get biatchy at a misbehaving crowd.


I'm originally from DC, that's always what I've heard about him. I've always liked Minor Threat and Fugazi but he does have a reputation around there for being a big weenie.
 
2022-06-25 12:11:35 AM  

Demetrius: After seeing Mike Love there, CSB time...

Local guy doing afternoon drive time got to interview Brian Wilson.  The interviewer is an incredibly smart guy and had an obvious love for the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson. He did all his research before the interview. He had some great questions, in-depth and leading. Brian Wilson would answer with one or two word answers. You could hear the life just disappearing from the interviewer. It was absolutely brutal. Never felt so bad for a radio personality ever.

/CSB


In all fairness to the interviewer, he probably should've done some more research on Brian Wilson. That way, he would've found out that due to battling mental illness for many years, Wilson's not exactly known to especially loquacious.

Also, there was a lot of clutter on the linked web site so I might've missed him but I didn't see Van Morrison on the list.
 
2022-06-25 12:12:04 AM  
"Van Halen's legendary list was created to see if promoters were paying attention to their demands or else forfeit the profits of each show. So outside of the M&M's (absolutely no brown ones), their rider seemed fairly sane...
The band requested nuts, pretzels, one large tube of KY jelly, three packs of Marlboro cigarettes,"

Wait wait wait, go back one...
 
2022-06-25 12:13:08 AM  
No Billy Corgan?
 
2022-06-25 12:23:33 AM  

Cinedelic: During [David Crosby's] years with his band-The Byrds, who later became Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

*facepalm*


Cronenberg imagery aside, the amount of wrong in this statement is mindbogglingly...

wrong.
 
2022-06-25 12:25:43 AM  
Lou Reed?
 
2022-06-25 12:27:33 AM  
List fails without Ed Sheeran. Rumor has it he is like Mariah Carey and Morrison had a child, then paid Celine to work as his nanny. Allegedly.
 
2022-06-25 12:35:44 AM  

LurkerSupreme: "Van Halen's legendary list was created to see if promoters were paying attention to their demands or else forfeit the profits of each show. So outside of the M&M's (absolutely no brown ones), their rider seemed fairly sane...
The band requested nuts, pretzels, one large tube of KY jelly, three packs of Marlboro cigarettes,"

Wait wait wait, go back one...


Really? That's what stood out to you?

I'm wondering what they're doing with the herring in sour cream.

But mainly I'm wondering why the author of a "crankiest" list has no idea what "cranky" means. Nothing there for Eddie Van Halen says cranky. And Gene Simmons isn't cranky, he's an asshole.

Didn't bother reading past that.
 
2022-06-25 12:44:57 AM  

yakmans_dad: Pop stars.

Charlie Mingus famously punched out his trombonist, on stage, ruining his embouchure for years. Sidney Bechet shot at another musician who had claimed Bechet had played a wrong note. (Bechet was thrown out of France for that.) Jellyroll Morton was such a pill his funeral was attended by around 4 people.


Yep. For the Jazz world, there's also that audio of Buddy Rich tearing into his band over some unnecessary bullshiat.

Obscure Audio 1: Buddy Rich Cursing His Band
Youtube covUesgI6fA
 
2022-06-25 12:53:44 AM  
Clams!
 
2022-06-25 1:28:16 AM  
On Nikki Minaj:

"Her food demands border on the insane: egg whites, turkey bacon fried hard, 12-piece buckets of chicken, salad with Wishbone Light Italian Dressing."

Oh my god, what a monster.
 
2022-06-25 1:33:39 AM  

InfoFreako: Lou Reed?


I was listening to an interview with a guy who wrote a book (or made a documentary?) about Lou Reed and he said the word "prick" came up a lot when he was interviewing people who knew him.
 
2022-06-25 1:44:33 AM  

LurkerSupreme: "Van Halen's legendary list was created to see if promoters were paying attention to their demands or else forfeit the profits of each show. So outside of the M&M's (absolutely no brown ones), their rider seemed fairly sane...
The band requested nuts, pretzels, one large tube of KY jelly, three packs of Marlboro cigarettes,"

Wait wait wait, go back one...


Well, they really,reallylike each other.
 
2022-06-25 1:45:12 AM  

ChiliBoots: On Nikki Minaj:

"Her food demands border on the insane: egg whites, turkey bacon fried hard, 12-piece buckets of chicken, salad with Wishbone Light Italian Dressing."

Oh my god, what a monster.


It sounds benign because writer doesn't mention thar she throws all of that out to the dogs and eats crackers instead
 
2022-06-25 1:49:43 AM  

MrBallou: Flip side: I once got to film Julie Andrews doing a charity gig with a children's chorus. She was wonderful with the kids, of course, but also utterly charming and sweet with the crew while being impressively professional about the whole process. A star since she was a teenager, she was still a delightful, genuinely nice person.


That's a relief.
 
2022-06-25 1:51:28 AM  

Ghastly: I saw Ray Charles in concert in the 80s and holy shiat was that old man cranky. Someone in the audience yelled out "we love you Ray" between songs and he tore a strip off the guy for it. "Don't you yell stuff at me! Don't you yell at me! Treat me like a symphony orchestra. You wouldn't go see Beethoven and yell out 'we love you Beethoven'." and this was after he delayed starting his concert by an hour.

Then he yelled at the sound man and the bassist, and the drummer, and one of the guitarists and generally let it be known that he was hating ever moment he was spending at this venue. I have no idea what set him off that day but holy shiat was he one cranky old man.


You want to be a symphony orchestra?

Try Tanglewood.
 
2022-06-25 1:53:13 AM  

Tyrosine: Sebastian Bach.

My favorite moment of his was when he was getting interviewed by someone from Much Music. The interviewer correctly commented that Skid Row and Poison had a lot of overlap in their fan bases and poor little Sebestian had a hissyfit and stormed out.


Ah, Bach!
 
2022-06-25 2:04:18 AM  

mcmnky: LurkerSupreme: "Van Halen's legendary list was created to see if promoters were paying attention to their demands or else forfeit the profits of each show. So outside of the M&M's (absolutely no brown ones), their rider seemed fairly sane...
The band requested nuts, pretzels, one large tube of KY jelly, three packs of Marlboro cigarettes,"

Wait wait wait, go back one...

Really? That's what stood out to you?

I'm wondering what they're doing with the herring in sour cream.

But mainly I'm wondering why the author of a "crankiest" list has no idea what "cranky" means. Nothing there for Eddie Van Halen says cranky. And Gene Simmons isn't cranky, he's an asshole.

Didn't bother reading past that.


Eddie and Alex are Dutch. The Dutch love herring

/pickled herring >> sour cream herring
 
2022-06-25 2:27:33 AM  

Demetrius: Oh, and fark Morrissey.


He talks a big game until Robert Smith shows up at the party.
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2022-06-25 2:39:05 AM  

Camus' Ghost: Demetrius: Oh, and fark Morrissey.

He talks a big game until Robert Smith shows up at the party.
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It's his party and he cries if he wants to, cries if he wants to, cries if he wants to. You'd cry too if mecha Robert Smith punched you on the hand
 
2022-06-25 2:42:47 AM  
Worked in the concert industry for a while. Some musicians stand out as pretty spectacular assholes. Others are really cool and nice.

Steve Earle is a phenomenal piece of shiat. He played a fundraiser for a clean air foundation and kept his bus running the entire time. Every time the side door was opened the place filled up with diesel fumes. He threatened one of my bouncers for trying to get him to move aside so I could get past him with the full keg I was carrying.

Death Cab for Cutie complained incessantly about everything even while onstage.

I personally can't stand Hootie and the Blowfish's music, but they were phenomenally nice and pleasant. They took time after the show to personally thank each and every member of the crew and staff that work that worked the venue.

Steve Winwood was amazingly personable and friendly and put on one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Joe Cocker apologized to me and the venue owners for having missed a couple of notes during his performance and was just a really laid back guy.

Jonathan Richman was just an absolute sweetheart whose rider consisted of nothing at all beyond his modest guarantee.
 
2022-06-25 2:46:28 AM  

Billy Liar: Spade Cooley - beat his estranged wife to death, forced his 14-year old daughter to watch


Who?
 
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