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(Space.com)   If you were never concerned about how fragile our satellite grid is, you might want to start   (space.com) divider line
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1550 clicks; posted to STEM » on 23 Jun 2022 at 2:23 PM (24 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-06-23 1:46:34 PM  
My son was asking about solar flares last we so we got to talking about what a strong one could do to the earth.

/It will happen, probably sooner than we think and it's not gonna be pretty.
 
2022-06-23 2:37:22 PM  
This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.
 
2022-06-23 2:38:21 PM  
I am more worried about polar bears than the satellite grid.  I can do zip about either, so, you know...
 
2022-06-23 2:50:54 PM  
Free fire works in the night sky ..
 
2022-06-23 2:55:13 PM  
Subby its not increased drag we are worried about. Its a runaway chain reaction of impacts turning space into a kill net that we are worried about. Probably about to start that chain if it hasnt started already.

Good thing that humans are so fantastically good at acting before shiat completely hits the fan right
 
2022-06-23 3:01:40 PM  
A simple trip to the store will be very difficult using GPS soon as the satellites plummet in real time.
 
2022-06-23 3:51:56 PM  
I'll get right on that, once I figure out what I can do about it.
 
2022-06-23 3:57:31 PM  

labman: This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.


I also have Starlink, but my rifles all have iron sights. I really can't decide what side of the fence I want to be on...
 
2022-06-23 4:06:42 PM  
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2022-06-23 4:15:06 PM  
good, let them all fall into the ocean. fracking things now ruin about 10% of my astro pics.
 
2022-06-23 4:20:18 PM  
Surely this is somehow Biden's fault.
 
2022-06-23 4:29:57 PM  
This is good news for launch companies.
 
2022-06-23 4:35:07 PM  

jimpapa: good, let them all fall into the ocean. fracking things now ruin about 10% of my astro pics.


The lack of capitalization did help reinforce the fact that your post was selfish stupidity, but leaving out punctuation would make it more authentic.
 
2022-06-23 5:26:04 PM  

labman: This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.


I'm glad Starlink is there. It puts some pressure on everyone else to do a better job. However, it isn't going to do as much as I was hoping:

But for those who continue to think Starlink is going to truly disrupt the broken U.S. broadband market, here's a few quick numbers. Up to 42 million Americans lack access to any broadband whatsoever, be it wired or wireless. Another 83 million currently live under a broadband monopoly, usually Comcast. Tens of millions more live under a broadband duopoly, which usually consists of Comcast and some regional phone company that stopped caring about upgrading its DSL networks sometime around 2005 or so. This regional monopolization directly results in spotty, expensive, sometimes sluggish service.

In contrast, SpaceX and Musk say that the 500,000 users will probably get the service they've pre-ordered. But Musk noted last week that as the company begins to push into the several million connection territory, things will likely get tricky. Particularly in more dense areas where capacity constraints will continue to be a big problem, much like existing higher-orbit satellite offerings:

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2022-06-23 5:33:42 PM  

labman: This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.


And for all the bitcoin/NFT crap investment scams, Dish Network flipped on the first of it's nationwide 5g network in Nevada recently. It will be the 4th largest carrier in the US...and its stock is currently under $17.00.

I rarely buy stock, but I picked some up yesterday. Yeah, it is Dish Network, but if they pull off this network as planned, it is actually pretty impressive.

Also, if you do some looking, Dish Network and DirecTV seem to be planning to exit the market. This makes me think Dish is pretty serious about making the 5g network work:

-=-=-=

Many of the satellites used by broadcasters Dish Network and DirecTV are approaching the end of their useful life cycle, and neither company appears to be building new satellites fast enough to replace them.

That was the conclusion in an analyst note published by MoffettNathanson this week, as first
 
2022-06-23 6:10:04 PM  

transporter_ii: I'm glad Starlink is there. It puts some pressure on everyone else to do a better job. However, it isn't going to do as much as I was hoping:


I never really thought of it this way, but it really is a sick joke that the regional monopolies would face even a sliver of pressure for better price/speed/reliability from a company who's start up costs included GOING TO SPACE.
 
2022-06-23 6:42:01 PM  

BitwiseShift: A simple trip to the store will be very difficult using GPS soon as the satellites plummet in real time.


GPS sats orbit at over 12k miles up.  But I'll Funny you nonetheless.
 
2022-06-23 6:44:56 PM  

transporter_ii: labman: This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.

I'm glad Starlink is there. It puts some pressure on everyone else to do a better job. However, it isn't going to do as much as I was hoping:

But for those who continue to think Starlink is going to truly disrupt the broken U.S. broadband market, here's a few quick numbers. Up to 42 million Americans lack access to any broadband whatsoever, be it wired or wireless. Another 83 million currently live under a broadband monopoly, usually Comcast. Tens of millions more live under a broadband duopoly, which usually consists of Comcast and some regional phone company that stopped caring about upgrading its DSL networks sometime around 2005 or so. This regional monopolization directly results in spotty, expensive, sometimes sluggish service.

In contrast, SpaceX and Musk say that the 500,000 users will probably get the service they've pre-ordered. But Musk noted last week that as the company begins to push into the several million connection territory, things will likely get tricky. Particularly in more dense areas where capacity constraints will continue to be a big problem, much like existing higher-orbit satellite offerings:

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For rural broadband, the RECs (Rural Electric Cooperatives) are the answer.  Same problem as with electricity back when the Rural Electrification Act was passed.  Nobody in government seems to have made that connection, but most of the RECs have and a lot are rolling out fiber in their right-of-way.

It's just taking a long time - mostly because it's out of their area of expertise.  Especially the smaller co-ops.
 
2022-06-23 6:46:23 PM  
In other news, maybe the 10m amateur band will open up!
 
2022-06-23 6:54:18 PM  

DoganSquirrelSlayer: transporter_ii: I'm glad Starlink is there. It puts some pressure on everyone else to do a better job. However, it isn't going to do as much as I was hoping:

I never really thought of it this way, but it really is a sick joke that the regional monopolies would face even a sliver of pressure for better price/speed/reliability from a company who's start up costs included GOING TO SPACE.


Recently in my red state the monopolies tried to push through legislation to make sure the Rural Electric Co-ops weren't being "anti-competitive".  By anti-competitive they meant: charging other entities to hang shiat on their poles.  If you're not familiar, *everybody* charges others for the right to use their infrastructure / right-of-way.  Cable companies, phone companies and cities all charge each other.

But these comms co's tried to paint the RECs as some kind of commie monopoly themselves.  It didn't work.  The RECs mailed and emailed all their members and ask them to protest to their reps.  And we did.
 
2022-06-23 10:56:49 PM  

Concrete Donkey: Subby its not increased drag we are worried about. Its a runaway chain reaction of impacts turning space into a kill net that we are worried about. Probably about to start that chain if it hasnt started already.

Good thing that humans are so fantastically good at acting before shiat completely hits the fan right


A good Kessler event would certainly make things exciting around here.
 
2022-06-24 9:44:49 PM  

transporter_ii: labman: This is concerning to me since my best source for internet is currently Starlink.

And for all the bitcoin/NFT crap investment scams, Dish Network flipped on the first of it's nationwide 5g network in Nevada recently. It will be the 4th largest carrier in the US...and its stock is currently under $17.00.

I rarely buy stock, but I picked some up yesterday. Yeah, it is Dish Network, but if they pull off this network as planned, it is actually pretty impressive.

Also, if you do some looking, Dish Network and DirecTV seem to be planning to exit the market. This makes me think Dish is pretty serious about making the 5g network work:

-=-=-=

Many of the satellites used by broadcasters Dish Network and DirecTV are approaching the end of their useful life cycle, and neither company appears to be building new satellites fast enough to replace them.

That was the conclusion in an analyst note published by MoffettNathanson this week, as first


The Verge (that cover this stuff for a living) says it's hot garbage. It only exists because of TFG administration grifting.
 
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