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731 clicks; posted to STEM » on 23 Jun 2022 at 11:47 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-06-23 11:59:31 AM  
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RedPhoenix122: Start by pondering if customers could store their own info and provide access

This is without a doubt the dumbest take I've ever seen. (snip)


You're assuming a scenario where you're doing processing for them, or some larger interconnected thing.

As an app dev, I stopped storing customer data years ago. They store their own data on AWS, their IT guy is responsible for security, and I log in remotely like any employee.

Way simpler for me. :)
 
2022-06-23 10:48:41 AM  
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Start by pondering if customers could store their own info and provide access

This is without a doubt the dumbest take I've ever seen.

1. This won't work in most settings, because you still to transfer the data to process.
2. This would make things LESS secure, since it would just take one compromised customer to get into the system.

And it continues.

That's a problem, because what cannot be valued cannot be insured. A decade ago, insurers started looking at offering policies to insure data against loss. But in the absence of any methodology for valuing that data, the idea quickly landed in the "too hard" basket.

Except insurers STILL DO THIS.  Cybersecurity insurance is not only a thing, it's required in many industries.

Arguably the best strategy to avoid ruinous reparation costs is to avoid storing any sensitive data at all.

Why stop there?  Throw every computer into an incinerator and keep no records at all.

Let your customers hold their own data, and ask them for (limited) permission to use it. Those techniques exist - but they're rarely used, because such an approach directly interferes with the profits to be made from endless data analytics. Short-term gains open the door to long-term losses.

You must be new here.
 
2022-06-23 12:44:33 PM  
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uhhh...just say'n here, simply 'storing data" is not the issue at all.

Go on, turn all that data into physical paper data in a single office in a security controlled room.
So uhhh what are the odds on any of that data winding up in the wrong hands vs. you stored the data on an internet connected server so that you could have access to it from a remote location.


It's not that anyone wanted to "store the data" it is that they wanted easy convenient REMOTE access to that data that is the actual issue at hand.

Like this:
write all your important passwords down on paper list and hide it in your house.
Write all your passwords in an electronic document on a computer  that HAS NO INTERNET ACCESS
write all your passwords in an electronic document that is on an internet connected computer.

now  for any given arbitrary amount of time we can sample, (one minute, a few hours, a whole day, a couple weeks, one year, etc etc), how many humans could potentially access and steal that password list under each of those conditions?

yeah,. it's being online that makes it open to the entire online world, vs. someone had to physically be in a singular spceiffic locaiton on earth to have any chance at access.

the odds are whole worlds of reality apart.
 
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