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(YouTube) Hero Yesterday in 2008, we lost the guy that would have absolutely lost his shiat about the state of the world today. Rest In Peace to the incomparable George Carlin (NSFW obviously)   (youtube.com) divider line
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2022-06-23 3:16:29 AM  
If I could throw a dead celebrity dinner salon and invite anyone from history, I would invite George Carlin, Molly Ivins, Samuel Clemens...

... and Jack Parsons, just to keep it weird.
 
2022-06-23 4:18:51 AM  
He wouldn't be able to do his comedy today. He was a man of his time and that time is long gone.
 
2022-06-23 6:06:25 AM  
He got brutally misanthropic at the end there...
 
2022-06-23 7:50:42 AM  
I wish I had Subby's faith that Carlin would've aged well, but he already kind of wasn't. I say this as someone who has every one of his albums and books and grew up listening to him.

Half the country rejected Dave Chappelle for some of his material and his response was to declare he was "Team TERF." You think Carlin's bit about determining a woman's mileage would've won accolades from the modern left, or would they have rejected him? After that would he have retired or simply picked up a new audience from the right? He wouldn't have changed his material, that's for goddamn sure.

Thoreny is right. I'm glad we had him when we had him but he wouldn't have survived the purity tests applied to entertainers these days.
 
2022-06-23 7:50:48 AM  
Boy was I surprised the first time I saw Mr. Conductor without his hat on.
And he was awesome in Bill and Ted of course.
 
2022-06-23 8:14:02 AM  

bughunter: If I could throw a dead celebrity dinner salon and invite anyone from history, I would invite George Carlin, Molly Ivins, Samuel Clemens...

... and Jack Parsons, just to keep it weird.


I'd consider Hunter S Thompson if he brought enough drugs for everyone to share
 
2022-06-23 8:15:17 AM  

Koodz: I wish I had Subby's faith that Carlin would've aged well, but he already kind of wasn't. I say this as someone who has every one of his albums and books and grew up listening to him.

Half the country rejected Dave Chappelle for some of his material and his response was to declare he was "Team TERF." You think Carlin's bit about determining a woman's mileage would've won accolades from the modern left, or would they have rejected him? After that would he have retired or simply picked up a new audience from the right? He wouldn't have changed his material, that's for goddamn sure.

Thoreny is right. I'm glad we had him when we had him but he wouldn't have survived the purity tests applied to entertainers these days.


Carlin's material that I've seen was about attacking the hypocrisy of the leaders at the time.

There's no reason he wouldn't have been to do that now.
 
2022-06-23 8:34:57 AM  

Gubbo: Koodz: I wish I had Subby's faith that Carlin would've aged well, but he already kind of wasn't. I say this as someone who has every one of his albums and books and grew up listening to him.

Half the country rejected Dave Chappelle for some of his material and his response was to declare he was "Team TERF." You think Carlin's bit about determining a woman's mileage would've won accolades from the modern left, or would they have rejected him? After that would he have retired or simply picked up a new audience from the right? He wouldn't have changed his material, that's for goddamn sure.

Thoreny is right. I'm glad we had him when we had him but he wouldn't have survived the purity tests applied to entertainers these days.

Carlin's material that I've seen was about attacking the hypocrisy of the leaders at the time.

There's no reason he wouldn't have been to do that now.


That wasn't all he was about.

You know how most people who claim to be free speech absolutists actually aren't? He actually was.

"fark you, I think rape is hilarious and I'll prove it!"
 
2022-06-23 9:23:34 AM  

Koodz: I wish I had Subby's faith that Carlin would've aged well, but he already kind of wasn't. I say this as someone who has every one of his albums and books and grew up listening to him.

Half the country rejected Dave Chappelle for some of his material and his response was to declare he was "Team TERF." You think Carlin's bit about determining a woman's mileage would've won accolades from the modern left, or would they have rejected him? After that would he have retired or simply picked up a new audience from the right? He wouldn't have changed his material, that's for goddamn sure.

Thoreny is right. I'm glad we had him when we had him but he wouldn't have survived the purity tests applied to entertainers these days.


.... seriously, burn.

Dave Chappelle blamed trans people for a trans woman's death, saying we forced her for some unknown reason.

And then immediately went on the defensive because he couldn't justify his stupid. He's a terrible person.

Yes, Carlin is a product of his time, and it might not play word-for-word. But the world of the early 2000's was just as different from 1986 and he evolved with that. He would not have been a plaything of the right - he would have modified his material to work because that's what he did his entire career - from the straight laced team comedian, to the counter culture work, to the Hippy-Dippy Weatherman Material, to the early Political stuff, to the more aggressive stuff later on. He even modified for 9/11 - not entirely eviscerating GWB because at the time, it wouldn't have played well.

You're looking to claim about things like purity tests? Get the fark out of here, you weren't apparently here, or didn't pay attention.
 
2022-06-23 9:35:00 AM  
I watched the recent documentary about him and while interesting I thought it did tend to drag an awful lot. Not boring, but I kept thinking I was about halfway thru the episode (it's 2 parts) and found only 20 minutes had passed. I still recommend it
 
2022-06-23 9:48:53 AM  
I know time seems to be passing quickly but was yesterday really 2008?
 
2022-06-23 10:36:56 AM  

Gubbo: bughunter: If I could throw a dead celebrity dinner salon and invite anyone from history, I would invite George Carlin, Molly Ivins, Samuel Clemens...

... and Jack Parsons, just to keep it weird.

I'd consider Hunter S Thompson if he brought enough drugs for everyone to share


Well he would, but he wouldn't.
 
2022-06-23 11:41:54 AM  
People complain Carlin got more bitter & angry at the end, & they're right. But being a very observant cultural commenter for decades, yet seeing things get worse & more corrupt & less rational over the same decades does grate on your psyche.

Carlin himself once remarked about his increasing pessimism with the old chestnut that if you scratch a cynic you'll see an optimist underneath. As I've gotten old I feel the same way, it just gets wearying seeing the corrupt rich and powerful constantly getting more powerful & the poor & the blameless not only being stomped on, but being convinced it's for their own good.
 
2022-06-23 12:01:36 PM  
I've seen this quite often "what would Carlin say about XYZ", and I don't believe that it would have been any different than what he's already said. His later societal commentary seems so prescient because NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Hell things have gone to shiat even more than they were in his time. We've just have more extremists (left, right, whatever your political dogma bullshiat is) easily able to share their opinions.

Much of his comedy would not work today because people have to spin themselves into so many different directions and use pre-apologies (the "I'm sorry but..." horseshiat), euphemisms (soft language) and so on, that they end up saying absolutely nothing. A legion of words to do nothing.
 
2022-06-23 12:58:40 PM  
Much of what i knew of him was from the Tonight Show and iirc the last 25% of his career on the show was just
ok and some of it was a train wreck or showing up for a paycheck.
 
2022-06-23 11:21:49 PM  
Carlin would have loved seeing the world today. He would just sit back and take it in.

Plus, it would be so much each easier to drag people across that line where they don't feel safe. If anything, he'd probably remark it was too easy.

/most of the posters here don't get Carlin's outlook and philosophy
 
2022-06-24 8:55:10 AM  
Unpopular opinion: I find Carlin preachy, smug, and self satisfied. His general tone and demeanor reminds me of a high schooler who read all of Robert Heinlein during summer break and now thinks he has all the answers.
 
2022-06-24 10:05:05 AM  

Metaluna Mutant: But being a very observant cultural commenter for decades, yet seeing things get worse & more corrupt & less rational over the same decades does grate on your psyche.


This goes off the assumption that things are getting worse, more corrupt and less rational.  As hard as it is to believe the opposite is true.  Nothing that exists today is new.  It all existed before (in greater numbers), just as acceptance of such bullshiat has risen these things have been brought into the light.

There's more crime and violence:  actually there's less...a lot less

There's more racism and intolerance:  Actually (at worst) the racism is the same, but people don't accept it any more
 
2022-06-24 1:50:04 PM  

portnoyd: Carlin would have loved seeing the world today. He would just sit back and take it in.

Plus, it would be so much each easier to drag people across that line where they don't feel safe. If anything, he'd probably remark it was too easy.

/most of the posters here don't get Carlin's outlook and philosophy



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RIP, George.

You saw the future and came back to warn us.
 
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