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2022-06-22 4:47:10 PM  
Good. Too many disabled don't get what they need because of cheaters burdening the systems.
 
2022-06-22 5:48:02 PM  
Okay, but how dumb to you have to be to post stuff when you're running a scam??? I've never "run a scam" or anything, but if I did, even I would know not to put pictures or other evidence up on the Internet.

Dumb as a teenager.
 
2022-06-22 6:07:48 PM  
AYYYYYYYTHEBIGRAGU!
 
2022-06-22 6:11:15 PM  
Okay, now there's limitations when you're disabled. Working out is okay, within your limits that say, a physical therapist has said you can do, but if you're entering bodybuilding contests and it's not for the disabled? And you're supposed to be disabled? Yeah, take him down.
 
2022-06-22 6:12:16 PM  

Combustion: Okay, but how dumb to you have to be to post stuff when you're running a scam??? I've never "run a scam" or anything, but if I did, even I would know not to put pictures or other evidence up on the Internet.

Dumb as a teenager.


I had a college roommate who delivered pizzas. He was robbed at gunpoint by a delivery recipient, when they opened the door, at their home. When police arrived and had arrested the suspect the partially eaten pizza, gun, and my roommate's wallet were on the coffee table. There's a distinct percentage of the criminal population who are so impossibly stupid that it's impossible for a non-impossibly stupid person to comprehend what went through their brain.
 
2022-06-22 6:16:38 PM  
Pretty sure these guys would all have trouble walking for 15 minutes, too:

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I assume TFA is shorting us on the story, because otherwise I'd have to wonder WTF this guy's lawyer was doing.
 
2022-06-22 6:18:54 PM  

AirForceVet: Good. Too many disabled don't get what they need because of cheaters burdening the systems.


Or we could help the guy have a legitimate disability claim by crippling him.
 
2022-06-22 6:20:30 PM  
Meh. This is one of the "slow news day" stories they like to pull out, now and then. There is absolutely no one getting rich off food stamps, there's no money in it. The government could very easily afford to give everyone free food and medical care. It's not considered a priority.

This just smells like an old story slanted to Republican political tastes. "Find someone abusing their welfare while actually enjoying life, somehow, and claim that's why the poor must be suppressed." This particular story might even be true but, seriously, it doesn't look any more real than a Kardashian or Zuckerberg.

If you're the kind of Trump-follower that falls for whatever batshiat insanity is going around, you probably already understand that Zuckerberg is a hastily-made android covering a grotesque squid creature. So, you probably also believe this story about somebody, somehow, horribly getting vast luxury out of light medical fraud.
 
2022-06-22 6:21:19 PM  
Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.
 
2022-06-22 6:24:03 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: There's a distinct percentage of the criminal population who are so impossibly stupid that it's impossible for a non-impossibly stupid person to comprehend what went through their brain.


"....these are their stories!"
 
2022-06-22 6:28:52 PM  

lizaardvark: Meh. This is one of the "slow news day" stories they like to pull out, now and then. There is absolutely no one getting rich off food stamps, there's no money in it. The government could very easily afford to give everyone free food and medical care. It's not considered a priority.

This just smells like an old story slanted to Republican political tastes. "Find someone abusing their welfare while actually enjoying life, somehow, and claim that's why the poor must be suppressed." This particular story might even be true but, seriously, it doesn't look any more real than a Kardashian or Zuckerberg.

If you're the kind of Trump-follower that falls for whatever batshiat insanity is going around, you probably already understand that Zuckerberg is a hastily-made android covering a grotesque squid creature. So, you probably also believe this story about somebody, somehow, horribly getting vast luxury out of light medical fraud.


Actually it shows that this type of fraud actually is caught and prosecuted.

If it were a republican hit piece, the fraudster would be name Oranjello and convicted of 30 felonies while collecting food stamps to buy lobster.

This is just an Italian guy who wanted an early retirement and lied a bunch, and got caught.  Now he has to pay back the money he stole
 
2022-06-22 6:30:23 PM  

Combustion: Okay, but how dumb to you have to be to post stuff when you're running a scam??? I've never "run a scam" or anything, but if I did, even I would know not to put pictures or other evidence up on the Internet.

Dumb as a teenager.


So, here's the thing. You're disabled. You fell. You work on getting better. You get better. This guy COULD have said, Hey, I'm doing better. I should go back to work. But nope. He's too entrenched in the whole collecting a pay check without going to work and his body building.

If he had STOPPED collecting the check....

I don't want to begrudge people who work on themselves when they get hurt.
 
2022-06-22 6:35:08 PM  
Far more people are too obese to do the things described in the headline than bodybuilders who have similar issues, but don't let that interfere with the narrative here.
 
2022-06-22 6:35:52 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Pretty sure these guys would all have trouble walking for 15 minutes, too:

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I assume TFA is shorting us on the story, because otherwise I'd have to wonder WTF this guy's lawyer was doing.


Skipping leg day I see?

/going to hell I know.
 
2022-06-22 6:44:10 PM  

Theeng: Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.


If you're fighting the VA, blame all the veterans that abuse the system. I can't prove it, but I'd guess 90% of vets collecting disability are abusing it, and most don't even know it.

When I got out of the Army, part of the "ACAP" process was to go sit down with a guy who would go through your medical records and try to help you craft excuses to get disability. And he would convince you you deserved it, even if he had to basically make shiat up.

Of all the things that disappoint me about the veteran community, their abuse of the disability system is very near the top. If you're not disabled, stop making it harder for the ones that are. Simple as that. Your knees don't creak because of all that hard Air Force PT. Your knees creak because you're 40 years old now.

For context, I'm a Purple Heart recipient with related medical issues that will be with me for life. I do expect the VA to take care of those medical issues. But I'm not collecting disability, nor have I ever even filed for it. Because I'm not disabled, and I'd feel like a dishonest person if I claimed I was.

/yes, I understand that the disability rating system is tied to the VA health care priority rating (which, in my case, the Purple Heart takes care of for me). That's half the problem.
//just to clarify, Theeng, I'm not suggesting your issue isn't legitimate
 
2022-06-22 6:45:52 PM  
The absurdity of this story not withstanding, when I suffered a back injury at work many years ago I was petrified of doing anything outside of work that might make it seem as though I was faking. The result of that fear (among other things) is that my weight skyrocketed and my overall strength deteriorated making what probably should have been a couple months recovery balloon into a year and a half long process.

Obviously there's much more to my personal story, but suffice to say the "if you're injured you shouldn't be able to do x ever" is a toxic mindset yet sadly one fostered by the way worker's comp cases tend to be handled.
 
2022-06-22 6:52:54 PM  
Old skool, boomer level, good advice: If you like commiting crime, you should stay far away from social media

Modern good advice: Recording our crime spree is the best idea I've ever had! Think of the clicks!
 
2022-06-22 7:14:33 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Far more people are too obese to do the things described in the headline than bodybuilders who have similar issues, but don't let that interfere with the narrative here.


He maybe robbing the system, but at least he's not fat!
 
2022-06-22 7:23:17 PM  
I misread the headline and thought this would be about a bodybuilder who was so jacked he couldn't bend over to tie his shoes.
 
2022-06-22 7:23:20 PM  
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2022-06-22 7:30:30 PM  
Headline had too many words:

Don't post on Instagram
 
2022-06-22 7:33:24 PM  

cheap_thoughts: Okay, now there's limitations when you're disabled. Working out is okay, within your limits that say, a physical therapist has said you can do, but if you're entering bodybuilding contests and it's not for the disabled? And you're supposed to be disabled? Yeah, take him down.


There is a girl at my gym with MS, she makes feel like a whimp. Saw off.
 
2022-06-22 7:38:43 PM  

Theeng: Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.


I'm almost 50. My aunt fought the VA for decades.  And bam, finely won.
My father in law was in Nam didn't win his until 2003. 2003.
Coworkers hated my aunt and FIL because they had their's and her mom didn't.
But. After questioning her. I called b.s. your mom took the first no. All the people I know that have their check, got it with long battles.
If you need it, actually, NEED you don't give up.  Especially on the first know.
My bother sat on our moms sofa for 5 years and finely won.  And boy did he need it. His dad DNA was trash.
 
2022-06-22 7:44:28 PM  

theteacher: Combustion: Okay, but how dumb to you have to be to post stuff when you're running a scam??? I've never "run a scam" or anything, but if I did, even I would know not to put pictures or other evidence up on the Internet.

Dumb as a teenager.

So, here's the thing. You're disabled. You fell. You work on getting better. You get better. This guy COULD have said, Hey, I'm doing better. I should go back to work. But nope. He's too entrenched in the whole collecting a pay check without going to work and his body building.

If he had STOPPED collecting the check....

I don't want to begrudge people who work on themselves when they get hurt.


Real life doesn't care. But. Sure, people should leave and come back and fight again and leave again, and go and come back and fight back again?
Naaaaa. That is silly.  And will eventually make it harder to get hired.
Also the disability law actually says :
Get, and maintain gainful employment.
Body blinding contest don't pay.
Only Endorsement deals pay.
 
2022-06-22 7:44:49 PM  
I was injured on the job by someone else's pure neglect of basic safety rules. I damn near broke my back, but there was no way in hell I would ever think to game the system.
 
2022-06-22 7:45:36 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Far more people are too obese to do the things described in the headline than bodybuilders who have similar issues, but don't let that interfere with the narrative here.


Didn't Homer Simpson gain weight to qualify?
/
I'm 400 pounds they didn't hook me up.
//
Fml
 
2022-06-22 7:47:37 PM  

Singleballtheory: The absurdity of this story not withstanding, when I suffered a back injury at work many years ago I was petrified of doing anything outside of work that might make it seem as though I was faking. The result of that fear (among other things) is that my weight skyrocketed and my overall strength deteriorated making what probably should have been a couple months recovery balloon into a year and a half long process.

Obviously there's much more to my personal story, but suffice to say the "if you're injured you shouldn't be able to do x ever" is a toxic mindset yet sadly one fostered by the way worker's comp cases tend to be handled.


And it's b.s.  back in the day my mom could pop and handful of pain killers and go to work. But. That almost killed her liver.
People should not have to do that.
 
2022-06-22 7:56:28 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Theeng: Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.

If you're fighting the VA, blame all the veterans that abuse the system. I can't prove it, but I'd guess 90% of vets collecting disability are abusing it, and most don't even know it.

When I got out of the Army, part of the "ACAP" process was to go sit down with a guy who would go through your medical records and try to help you craft excuses to get disability. And he would convince you you deserved it, even if he had to basically make shiat up.

Of all the things that disappoint me about the veteran community, their abuse of the disability system is very near the top. If you're not disabled, stop making it harder for the ones that are. Simple as that. Your knees don't creak because of all that hard Air Force PT. Your knees creak because you're 40 years old now.

For context, I'm a Purple Heart recipient with related medical issues that will be with me for life. I do expect the VA to take care of those medical issues. But I'm not collecting disability, nor have I ever even filed for it. Because I'm not disabled, and I'd feel like a dishonest person if I claimed I was.

/yes, I understand that the disability rating system is tied to the VA health care priority rating (which, in my case, the Purple Heart takes care of for me). That's half the problem.
//just to clarify, Theeng, I'm not suggesting your issue isn't legitimate


This is a good read on the subject,
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2022-06-22 8:19:38 PM  

lizaardvark: Meh. This is one of the "slow news day" stories they like to pull out, now and then. There is absolutely no one getting rich off food stamps, there's no money in it. The government could very easily afford to give everyone free food and medical care. It's not considered a priority.

This just smells like an old story slanted to Republican political tastes. "Find someone abusing their welfare while actually enjoying life, somehow, and claim that's why the poor must be suppressed." This particular story might even be true but, seriously, it doesn't look any more real than a Kardashian or Zuckerberg.

If you're the kind of Trump-follower that falls for whatever batshiat insanity is going around, you probably already understand that Zuckerberg is a hastily-made android covering a grotesque squid creature. So, you probably also believe this story about somebody, somehow, horribly getting vast luxury out of light medical fraud.


200k in five years is a very nice supplemental income for an early retiree.
 
2022-06-22 8:21:21 PM  

theteacher: You fell. You work on getting better. You get better. This guy COULD have said, Hey, I'm doing better. I should go back to work.


The system is gamed against you in a lot of cases. My cousin was born with a kidney disease. He was put on dialysis and was on disability.  While doing nothing for hours while his blood was filtered, he got a law degree and passed the bar.  He tried to go to work (mostly pro bono) to off set some of his disability and was told, If you make a dime, we'll cut all of your dialysis benefits.   He just wanted to help pay his way.  Nope.  Not an option.

/this guy needs to go to jail for a long time (to keep this on topic)
 
2022-06-22 8:30:07 PM  

lizaardvark: Meh. This is one of the "slow news day" stories they like to pull out, now and then. There is absolutely no one getting rich off food stamps, there's no money in it. The government could very easily afford to give everyone free food and medical care. It's not considered a priority.

This just smells like an old story slanted to Republican political tastes. "Find someone abusing their welfare while actually enjoying life, somehow, and claim that's why the poor must be suppressed." This particular story might even be true but, seriously, it doesn't look any more real than a Kardashian or Zuckerberg.

If you're the kind of Trump-follower that falls for whatever batshiat insanity is going around, you probably already understand that Zuckerberg is a hastily-made android covering a grotesque squid creature. So, you probably also believe this story about somebody, somehow, horribly getting vast luxury out of light medical fraud.


According to the AG it was $200K over 8 years.  2013 to 2020.  That's $25K per year.  Unless they had another source of income they were just above the poverty line.  No one is doing this to get rich, they are doing it to not have to work.
 
2022-06-22 8:50:54 PM  
Arkkuss:  According to the AG it was $200K over 8 years.  2013 to 2020.  That's $25K per year.  Unless they had another source of income they were just above the poverty line.  No one is doing this to get rich, they are doing it to not have to work.

Wait. $25K per year?  I am on SSDI, and I get $13K per year after Medicare payments are deducted.
I wish that I could have a paying job again, but my body won't cooperate.
 
2022-06-22 8:52:53 PM  
Didn't doctors have to sign off on these allegations?  What about them?  I would also imagine there was a lawyer involved somehow, somewhere.
 
2022-06-22 8:53:00 PM  

zeroman987: lizaardvark: Meh. This is one of the "slow news day" stories they like to pull out, now and then. There is absolutely no one getting rich off food stamps, there's no money in it. The government could very easily afford to give everyone free food and medical care. It's not considered a priority.

This just smells like an old story slanted to Republican political tastes. "Find someone abusing their welfare while actually enjoying life, somehow, and claim that's why the poor must be suppressed." This particular story might even be true but, seriously, it doesn't look any more real than a Kardashian or Zuckerberg.

If you're the kind of Trump-follower that falls for whatever batshiat insanity is going around, you probably already understand that Zuckerberg is a hastily-made android covering a grotesque squid creature. So, you probably also believe this story about somebody, somehow, horribly getting vast luxury out of light medical fraud.

Actually it shows that this type of fraud actually is caught and prosecuted.

If it were a republican hit piece, the fraudster would be name Oranjello and convicted of 30 felonies while collecting food stamps to buy lobster.

This is just an Italian guy who wanted an early retirement and lied a bunch, and got caught.  Now he has to pay back the money he stole


Yep. I worked disability claims for nearly ten years, and this guy's ADLs sound like all the people who tried to scam the system. I had one guy say he couldn't work and it turned out he was a martial arts instructor.
 
2022-06-22 10:14:45 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Theeng: Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.

If you're fighting the VA, blame all the veterans that abuse the system. I can't prove it, but I'd guess 90% of vets collecting disability are abusing it, and most don't even know it.

When I got out of the Army, part of the "ACAP" process was to go sit down with a guy who would go through your medical records and try to help you craft excuses to get disability. And he would convince you you deserved it, even if he had to basically make shiat up.

Of all the things that disappoint me about the veteran community, their abuse of the disability system is very near the top. If you're not disabled, stop making it harder for the ones that are. Simple as that. Your knees don't creak because of all that hard Air Force PT. Your knees creak because you're 40 years old now.

For context, I'm a Purple Heart recipient with related medical issues that will be with me for life. I do expect the VA to take care of those medical issues. But I'm not collecting disability, nor have I ever even filed for it. Because I'm not disabled, and I'd feel like a dishonest person if I claimed I was.

/yes, I understand that the disability rating system is tied to the VA health care priority rating (which, in my case, the Purple Heart takes care of for me). That's half the problem.
//just to clarify, Theeng, I'm not suggesting your issue isn't legitimate


I retired on medical. Getting disability from the VA was a gold plated biatch. Back and shoulder farked up from deployment. I had to "cheat" the system a bit to get anything worthwhile.  Like with my back. They say bend forward as far as you can. I can physically touch my toes, it just really hurts. They're like, oh, you can touch your toes, your back is fine.  Obviously not if I have to go lay down after mowing half the yard.

So when I refiled, I bent forward until the pain started and said that was as far as I could go.  They say "oh wow, looks like you got back problems then." You think?
 
2022-06-22 10:37:29 PM  

waxbeans: cheap_thoughts: Okay, now there's limitations when you're disabled. Working out is okay, within your limits that say, a physical therapist has said you can do, but if you're entering bodybuilding contests and it's not for the disabled? And you're supposed to be disabled? Yeah, take him down.

There is a girl at my gym with MS, she makes feel like a whimp. Saw off.


MS is one of those medical diagnoses that can be debilitating for some, and not for others. It's literally dependent on the treatment you're on, and if you're experiencing a remission. I've treated acute exacerbations of MS on my hospital floor and have seen firsthand how awful it is. I have also seen my department manager work 60 hours on the floor when we've been short handed nurses, and she's had MS for 20+ years.

This dude was gaming the system and deserved his ass handed to him for fraudulently claiming a disability he was no longer qualified to be claiming for. Someone with MS will have good and bad days, and this whataboutism you're trying to push isn't it.
 
2022-06-22 10:39:21 PM  
i had a stroke in 2012.
my balance was way off, and a few other things.
i can cut my lawn with a mower as it also works as a walker.
after cutting some of the lawn and walking inside.
i then walk around like Frankenstein's monster.
some have said "you can cut the lawn", and i tell them to "come over and watch the whole show" !
 
2022-06-23 8:35:33 AM  
My wife is a paralegal specializing in medical records and plaintiff social media investigations. Slight background she used to be a special agent for the state attorney general's office who was actually trained as an investigator. When she left the AG to become a paralegal her firm asked her to look into suspicious plaintiffs to see if her trained eye could find anything suspicious. Within a week she had found multiple plaintiffs were posting all kinds of stupid shiat online while claiming debilitating pain. Basically it doesn't take a trained investigator to spot people posting incriminating things on line like a dumb teenager. So now her firm has her spend 10% of her time doing social media searches to verify every plaintiff that files suit against their clients. This small allocation of time that she can't bill for, is worth more to the firm than the time she does bill for due to the amount of savings that have accumulated for law suits either dismissed out of hand or drastically reduced in settlement amounts.
 
2022-06-23 11:33:22 AM  

Chemlight Battery: Theeng: Boy I love hearing about assholes abusing the disability system as someone who is fighting the VA like a bastard.

/I'd be happy to help him have a legitimate disability.

If you're fighting the VA, blame all the veterans that abuse the system. I can't prove it, but I'd guess 90% of vets collecting disability are abusing it, and most don't even know it.

When I got out of the Army, part of the "ACAP" process was to go sit down with a guy who would go through your medical records and try to help you craft excuses to get disability. And he would convince you you deserved it, even if he had to basically make shiat up.

Of all the things that disappoint me about the veteran community, their abuse of the disability system is very near the top. If you're not disabled, stop making it harder for the ones that are. Simple as that. Your knees don't creak because of all that hard Air Force PT. Your knees creak because you're 40 years old now.

For context, I'm a Purple Heart recipient with related medical issues that will be with me for life. I do expect the VA to take care of those medical issues. But I'm not collecting disability, nor have I ever even filed for it. Because I'm not disabled, and I'd feel like a dishonest person if I claimed I was.

/yes, I understand that the disability rating system is tied to the VA health care priority rating (which, in my case, the Purple Heart takes care of for me). That's half the problem.
//just to clarify, Theeng, I'm not suggesting your issue isn't legitimate


There's 2 guys on my street who played the system and got 100% disability.  One was in IT yet claimed PTSD, he had 90% but really fought for that 100 because then he doesn't have to pay any house OR car tax.  Other guy just lied and said he couldn't lift his shoulder past a certain amount (this is a common scam)

People are rewarded for this behavior, but people like you and I do the right thing and end up picking up the slack for a bunch of fakers not paying their fair share.  Pisses me off.   (0% disabled here :P )
 
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