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2022-06-22 3:58:28 PM  
Kurt Vonnegut was a dark humorist who wrote fourteen novels, all of which had the surprising quality of making you laugh so hard you didn't realize you were trying not to cry. Often bleakly satirical in a hilarious way, he covered major themes in an easy to read, straightforward and conversational way that could make complex subjects available to everyone. He also drew a picture of an asshole in one book, with the caption 'this is my drawing of an asshole.' That was hilarious.

Vonnegut was an anti-war pacifist who fought in the Battle of the Bulge in World War Two. He was captured and survived the firebombing of Dresden by hiding in a meat locker, which became the basis of his breakout novel Slaughterhouse-Five. He was an atheist who occasionally attended church. He received a graduate degree in anthropology in spite of dropping out of Cornell University. He was not a simple person. But how did he write?

This page lists thirteen ways to live and write like Kurt Vonnegut, and if you've read his books, they're definitely from him.

Write and quit your goddamn nightmare job "I've deposited my first check in a savings account and, as and if I sell more, will continue to do so until I have the equivalent of one year's pay at GE...I will then quit this goddamn nightmare job, and never take another one so long as I live, so help me God."
Live weird and laugh
Write and cut
"Your rule might be this: If a sentence, no matter how excellent, does not illuminate your subject in some new and useful way, scratch it out."
Want to live without war? Then write it right
Write for an audience
Write for yourself
Live with each other
Write with simple language
Live without technology
Write with clarity
Write off semicolons
"All they do is show you've been to college."
Live with money and love "I will tell you how to make money: work very hard. I will tell you how to win love: wear nice clothing and smile all the time. Learn the words to all the latest songs."
Write stories with defined shapes watch this video. Trust me.

Fark Fiction Anthology Update!

We are open for submissions for the 2022 Fark Fiction Anthology!


We're looking for short, less than 10,000 word fiction submissions in the following genres:

Fantasy!
Science Fiction!
Humor!
Horror!
Suspense/mystery/thriller!


(And if you have a great story that doesn't fit into any of those, send it in any way! We'll find a way to make it work!)

Submissions will be open until July 31st, so get them in to us!

The 2022 Fark Fiction Anthology Submissions Page
 
2022-06-22 4:43:20 PM  
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand."

So it goes, Kurt. I miss your cockeyed but undeniable wisdom.
 
2022-06-22 5:32:08 PM  
If you enjoy epic SFF works with an unreliable narrator, you might enjoy Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota series, which is set about 400 years in the future, in a human society that is as alien to 21st-century readers as the 21st century would be to someone from the Italian Renaissance, and the story is narrated by a notorious convicted criminal.

The series also has a number of subtle and not-so-subtle references to prominent figures in the Italian Renaissance, plus the works of Homer, Osamu Tezuka, and Hayao Miyazaki.
 
2022-06-22 5:39:32 PM  

anfrind: If you enjoy epic SFF works with an unreliable narrator, you might enjoy Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota series, which is set about 400 years in the future, in a human society that is as alien to 21st-century readers as the 21st century would be to someone from the Italian Renaissance, and the story is narrated by a notorious convicted criminal.

The series also has a number of subtle and not-so-subtle references to prominent figures in the Italian Renaissance, plus the works of Homer, Osamu Tezuka, and Hayao Miyazaki.


For the oldschool SF types, there is always Stanislaw Lem for skewed observation of just how f-ed up we really are
 
2022-06-22 5:45:04 PM  
"When people ask me how I think the world will end I always misquote Slaughterhouse five, "It will end like it always does in 3015 when a pilot activates his hyperspace engine to close to the planet.

Weird I was thinking today how I should become a better or good liar, to write fiction. Now I wonder if making stuff up is lying? Is writing about people who don't exist doing things I made up lying? I know Mark Twain thought of himself proudly as a good liar.
 
2022-06-22 5:52:17 PM  
I've sent one of mine in, and a plan to send a second in a couple weeks
 
2022-06-22 5:54:48 PM  

anfrind: If you enjoy epic SFF works with an unreliable narrator, you might enjoy Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota series, which is set about 400 years in the future, in a human society that is as alien to 21st-century readers as the 21st century would be to someone from the Italian Renaissance, and the story is narrated by a notorious convicted criminal.

The series also has a number of subtle and not-so-subtle references to prominent figures in the Italian Renaissance, plus the works of Homer, Osamu Tezuka, and Hayao Miyazaki.


Unreliable narrator historical fiction/fantasy, you can try Dan Simmin's Drood. The narration is from the perspective of well known author Wilkie Collins with the combination of drug addiction and major jealousy of his better known contemporary clouding things.

As a general reccomendation for those that like Vonnegut, I'd always suggest Joseph Heller's Catch 22.
 
2022-06-22 5:55:37 PM  

mad cowboy: "When people ask me how I think the world will end I always misquote Slaughterhouse five, "It will end like it always does in 3015 when a pilot activates his hyperspace engine to close to the planet.

Weird I was thinking today how I should become a better or good liar, to write fiction. Now I wonder if making stuff up is lying? Is writing about people who don't exist doing things I made up lying? I know Mark Twain thought of himself proudly as a good liar.


Entertainment in general is pretty much benign deception

/some with an agenda is not so benign
//but still the idea holds
///humans enjoy a well-told lie as long as they're in on the joke
 
2022-06-22 5:56:16 PM  
It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place.

- H L Mencken
 
2022-06-22 6:11:24 PM  
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2022-06-22 6:15:44 PM  
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He knew.  Dam him, he knew all along.
 
2022-06-22 6:55:04 PM  
Busy, busy, busy...
 
2022-06-22 7:21:25 PM  
Kurt Vonnegut's recurring character, scifi writer Kilgore Trout, is loosely based on Theodore Sturgeon, whose scriptwriting for Star Trek coined the phrase Live Long And Prosper, Dude.

Before moving to LA for Star Trek, Sturgeon lived in Woodstock, NY less than two miles from the shack where Joseph Campbell spent five years, reading 8 to 10 hours a day, developing his field of Comparative Mythology.

Sturgeon's house was between Bob Dylan's house on Camelot Road and the Tinker Street coffee shop where Dylan wrote several songs (in the upstairs apartment) which eventually earned him the Nobel Prize in Literature.

Sturgeon's kids were in the same grade school classes as my older siblings. And we watched Star Trek growing up, so it's almost like I've practically shaken hands with the fellow, Kilgore Trout himself.

My copy of Venus on the Half Shell is around here somewhere. However, I understand it was actually written by Philip Jose Farmer (under the pen name Kilgore Trout). You can blow people's minds showing them a "real" copy of Venus on the Half Shell. So it goes.
 
2022-06-22 7:24:09 PM  
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2022-06-22 7:51:17 PM  

Spice Must Flow: Kurt Vonnegut's recurring character, scifi writer Kilgore Trout, is loosely based on Theodore Sturgeon, whose scriptwriting for Star Trek coined the phrase Live Long And Prosper, Dude.

Before moving to LA for Star Trek, Sturgeon lived in Woodstock, NY less than two miles from the shack where Joseph Campbell spent five years, reading 8 to 10 hours a day, developing his field of Comparative Mythology.

Sturgeon's house was between Bob Dylan's house on Camelot Road and the Tinker Street coffee shop where Dylan wrote several songs (in the upstairs apartment) which eventually earned him the Nobel Prize in Literature.

Sturgeon's kids were in the same grade school classes as my older siblings. And we watched Star Trek growing up, so it's almost like I've practically shaken hands with the fellow, Kilgore Trout himself.

My copy of Venus on the Half Shell is around here somewhere. However, I understand it was actually written by Philip Jose Farmer (under the pen name Kilgore Trout). You can blow people's minds showing them a "real" copy of Venus on the Half Shell. So it goes.


Hey! Thanks!
 
2022-06-22 8:32:56 PM  
Hey! I have a copy of "Venus on the Half Shell" too! And Farmer's "A Feast Unknown," the showdown between Doc Savage and Tarzan you didn't know you needed. And of course "Doc Savage: An Apocalyptic Life" (2 copies).

This week I realized all three of my submissions to the Fark Anthology are basically the same story. And I was about to make it four. Back to the old scrivening table.
 
2022-06-22 8:33:05 PM  
This is really good
Kurt Vonnegut: Unstuck in Time - Official Trailer | HD | IFC Films
Youtube PbunvLdbWxA
 
2022-06-23 6:32:53 AM  
Quick writing-related threadjack, if I may?

There is apparently an opening in something called Spring Valley Writer's Workshop, run by a certain Will Greenway. I expressed interest, and got a generic email back. The next step is for me to submit 3,500 words to the gentleman, so he can critique it, so I can get an idea of what threadcount fireproof suit I need to buy.

I've already done some Google/Amazon research on them, but can anyone tell me anything, pro or con, about either of those two entities? Thank you.

https://authmentors.quora.com/Looking-for-Writer-Prospects
 
2022-06-23 8:05:55 AM  

Harlee: ...There is apparently an opening in something called Spring Valley Writer's Workshop, run by a certain Will Greenway. I expressed interest, and got a generic email back. The next step is for me to submit 3,500 words to the gentleman, so he can critique it, so I can get an idea of what threadcount fireproof suit I need to buy.

I've already done some Google/Amazon research on them, but can anyone tell me anything, pro or con, about either of those two entities? Thank you.


When I was on Quora (before the alt-right invasion), I was a member of Auth-Mentors. Greenway likes his charts and diagrams and formulae, but his advice seems sound.
 
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