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2022-06-22 8:22:41 AM  
As someone who uses SNAP(even 150 bucks a month has been helpful at times) I predict that the Texas gop will claim this is another reason to cut funding.
 
2022-06-22 8:30:29 AM  
Damn hackers. Stealing from benefits programs is meant to be reserved for bank service fees
 
2022-06-22 8:33:27 AM  
Everything is already farked up beyond belief. Now we gotta make it even worse for ourselves?
Stop stealing from the poor. Steal from the rich. They have all our money.
 
2022-06-22 10:23:12 AM  

Weaver95: Everything is already farked up beyond belief. Now we gotta make it even worse for ourselves?
Stop stealing from the poor. Steal from the rich. They have all our money.


But they have better banks with better security.
 
2022-06-22 10:23:39 AM  
Ah, yes, the old Reverse Robin Hood.

/ No, I'm not going to look that up on urbandictionary. I don't want to know.
 
2022-06-22 10:24:07 AM  

Weaver95: Everything is already farked up beyond belief. Now we gotta make it even worse for ourselves?
Stop stealing from the poor. Steal from the rich. They have all our money.


Ideally yes, but it's much easier to get away with stealing from others who do not have the resources to hunt you down like the dog you are.
 
2022-06-22 10:24:17 AM  
Obligatory.
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2022-06-22 10:24:28 AM  

Weaver95: Everything is already farked up beyond belief. Now we gotta make it even worse for ourselves?
Stop stealing from the poor. Steal from the rich. They have all our money.


They have security and education.  And they intend to keep it that way so They can steal from the poor.
/maybe if we get them
Indignant that someone got there before them?
 
2022-06-22 10:27:50 AM  
BITCOIN FIXES THIS
 
2022-06-22 10:29:28 AM  
How in the hell does a SNAP card issued in Indiana not raise warning bells when it's used in Texas?
 
2022-06-22 10:29:31 AM  
Just a do gooder preventing ghetto queens from buying lobster.

I was using SNAP when I was underemployed. The culprits should be put in solitary with bread and water rations.
 
2022-06-22 10:29:33 AM  
Behind the scenes, so to speak, do EBT cards work just like credit/debit cards?  Meaning in terms of how the transaction is processed once it is used at a point of sale, is that information then transmitted to a third party payment processor who handles the electronic funds transfer?  I'm just trying to figure how how EBT cards are "hacked" but apparently not as part of a larger card reader skimming that would have grabbed CC and debits too.  Someone in the payment processing chain who just stole the info on the back end and targeting EBT specifically?
 
2022-06-22 10:30:04 AM  
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!  You don't say!!!!
 
2022-06-22 10:30:12 AM  
Feh. "sound warning bells" - we only raise warning flags...
 
2022-06-22 10:30:16 AM  
JFC.
 
2022-06-22 10:32:18 AM  
Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?
 
2022-06-22 10:34:49 AM  

FormlessOne: Feh. "sound warning bells" - we only raise warning flags...


I require my warnings in flag semaphore, no matter how much HR says this is unreasonable.

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2022-06-22 10:35:13 AM  
More reason to just replace all "entitlements" with UBI.
 
2022-06-22 10:35:18 AM  

rustypouch: Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


WINNER WINNER BUT TOO POOR FOR A CHICKEN DINNER HOPE YOU LIKE GOVERNMENT CHEESE AND GENERIC MACARONI, YOU SHIFTLESS LAYABOUT STEALING FROM HONEST HARD-WORKING AMERICANS!

Seriously, the system is designed not merely to shame, but hopefully eliminate people who'd dare to "have a rough patch."
 
2022-06-22 10:35:21 AM  

rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


No, the system was designed to alleviate the shame of using paper food stamps.
 
2022-06-22 10:36:12 AM  

New Rising Sun: FormlessOne: Feh. "sound warning bells" - we only raise warning flags...

I require my warnings in flag semaphore, no matter how much HR says this is unreasonable.

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...right?!
 
2022-06-22 10:36:50 AM  
Well, the silver lining, the sooner people go hungry the sooner they erect the guillotines for corporate overlords
 
2022-06-22 10:37:49 AM  

ThighsofGlory: rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?

No, the system was designed to alleviate the shame of using paper food stamps.


As someone who grew up on food stamps, SNAP helps hugely in that regard. As someone who has implemented contactless scrip systems in the past, SNAP is a farking disaster.
 
2022-06-22 10:39:56 AM  

rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


You go to an office and they give you cash up there?
 
2022-06-22 10:40:41 AM  
I bet those cyber queens are using that stolen money to buy steak and lobster.
 
2022-06-22 10:40:50 AM  

rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


You're not allowed to buy hot food with SNAP.

You can go to the grocery store and buy a cold rotisserie chicken. You aren't allowed to buy it when it's still hot. You have to buy the cold leftover one and go heat it up.

And aside from things like that, there are always self appointed register police who will give the evil eye and make comments when the card comes out, especially if you dare buy food that isn't garbage. I used to hate that when we used it.

Like yeah sorry, my family is having a hard time but I'm working my ass off, we're allowed to eat a steak a couple times a month. Sorry we don't exist solely on Ramen like you think we should.
 
2022-06-22 10:43:28 AM  
Wasn't a "problem" when they had "food stamps" or whatever they used before.  But because of
"the shame" of someone being on food stamps, they just made it a "credit card".
 
2022-06-22 10:43:40 AM  

rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


Yes it is here, and it's hard to climb out.
 
2022-06-22 10:45:19 AM  
We already have enough problems with the rich legally robbing the poor...

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2022-06-22 10:46:12 AM  

maybeyoushould: rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?

You're not allowed to buy hot food with SNAP.

You can go to the grocery store and buy a cold rotisserie chicken. You aren't allowed to buy it when it's still hot. You have to buy the cold leftover one and go heat it up.

And aside from things like that, there are always self appointed register police who will give the evil eye and make comments when the card comes out, especially if you dare buy food that isn't garbage. I used to hate that when we used it.

Like yeah sorry, my family is having a hard time but I'm working my ass off, we're allowed to eat a steak a couple times a month. Sorry we don't exist solely on Ramen like you think we should.


Not to mention, divorced, single parents who pay child support are basically told, "Sorry, no help for you!"  And this happens even if they're in their child's life.
 
2022-06-22 10:47:06 AM  

New Rising Sun: Behind the scenes, so to speak, do EBT cards work just like credit/debit cards?  Meaning in terms of how the transaction is processed once it is used at a point of sale, is that information then transmitted to a third party payment processor who handles the electronic funds transfer?  I'm just trying to figure how how EBT cards are "hacked" but apparently not as part of a larger card reader skimming that would have grabbed CC and debits too.  Someone in the payment processing chain who just stole the info on the back end and targeting EBT specifically?


Yes. And, by that, I mean that SNAP implementation is handled at the state level, even though it's largely funded at the federal level, so there are variations in who handles what and how. Typically, a third party vendor's used so that existing vendor & retailer equipment can be supported; no sense re-inventing the wheel.

For example, EBT transactions in Washington are typically handled by Fidelity Information Services, through their payment gateway - they used to be handled by JPMorgan Chase, but the latter folks bailed about 5-6 years ago.
 
2022-06-22 10:47:43 AM  

Jeebus Saves: rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?

You go to an office and they give you cash up there?


Direct deposit for most people.
 
2022-06-22 10:51:55 AM  

FormlessOne: How in the hell does a SNAP card issued in Indiana not raise warning bells when it's used in Texas?


You'd be surprised how far a Cadillac Escalade can travel.
 
2022-06-22 10:53:17 AM  

Boo_Guy: Jeebus Saves: rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?

You go to an office and they give you cash up there?

Direct deposit for most people.


Well there's the problem.  A lot of poor people don't have a bank account.  And then there's the thing with bank fees which just puts the money into the pockets of billionaires.  The card for the most part avoids a lot of issues.
 
2022-06-22 10:53:51 AM  

maybeyoushould: rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?

You're not allowed to buy hot food with SNAP.

You can go to the grocery store and buy a cold rotisserie chicken. You aren't allowed to buy it when it's still hot. You have to buy the cold leftover one and go heat it up.


You better mean "on a hot plate". I have the Feds on speed dial...

/s
 
2022-06-22 10:55:09 AM  

Tom-Servo: FormlessOne: How in the hell does a SNAP card issued in Indiana not raise warning bells when it's used in Texas?

You'd be surprised how far a Cadillac Escalade can travel.


I can't tell if that's a bad joke or bad trolling. Meh. Doesn't matter.
 
2022-06-22 10:56:03 AM  
I guess boot strapping up a fire pit is acceptable too. NIMBY though.
 
2022-06-22 10:56:26 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Ah, yes, the old Reverse Robin Hood.

/ No, I'm not going to look that up on urbandictionary. I don't want to know.


I've heard of getting a Friar Tuck but not a Reverse Robin Hood.
 
2022-06-22 10:58:17 AM  

Salmon: Madman drummers bummers: Ah, yes, the old Reverse Robin Hood.

/ No, I'm not going to look that up on urbandictionary. I don't want to know.

I've heard of getting a Friar Tuck but not a Reverse Robin Hood.


It's where you run around with loose pants in front of Big John.
 
2022-06-22 10:58:34 AM  

Merltech: Weaver95: Everything is already farked up beyond belief. Now we gotta make it even worse for ourselves?
Stop stealing from the poor. Steal from the rich. They have all our money.

But they have better banks with better security.


yep, you steal from the poor they might catch you.  you might even get in some trouble.  maybe wear an ankle bracelet in your house for a year.

steal from the rich?  you're going away for a long long time.
 
2022-06-22 11:02:27 AM  

baka-san: As someone who uses SNAP(even 150 bucks a month has been helpful at times) I predict that the Texas gop will claim this is another reason to cut funding.


Yeah... never all they give me is 10 bucks.  😆 it cost money to come down here fark boys.
 
2022-06-22 11:02:30 AM  
JFC stealing from poor people?  What scum.
 
2022-06-22 11:04:08 AM  

New Rising Sun: Behind the scenes, so to speak, do EBT cards work just like credit/debit cards?  Meaning in terms of how the transaction is processed once it is used at a point of sale, is that information then transmitted to a third party payment processor who handles the electronic funds transfer?  I'm just trying to figure how how EBT cards are "hacked" but apparently not as part of a larger card reader skimming that would have grabbed CC and debits too.  Someone in the payment processing chain who just stole the info on the back end and targeting EBT specifically?


It processes like a credit card, but the card number is set up to remove sales tax (in MS at least) from the transaction.
 
2022-06-22 11:05:01 AM  

FormlessOne: How in the hell does a SNAP card issued in Indiana not raise warning bells when it's used in Texas?


I know when my sister brought her kids to stay with us here in Indiana from Minnesota (during a family emergency) she could use her snap benefits without an issue. I'm pretty sure she also got notifications every time it was used. Maybe there's a setting on the Snap site, or people just don't bother keeping track. Not that it's their fault, they shouldn't have to be hyper vigilant, who would expect people to rob the poor.
Robbing from the poor is about as low as you can get.
Jerks
 
2022-06-22 11:08:51 AM  
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2022-06-22 11:10:03 AM  

FormlessOne: How in the hell does a SNAP card issued in Indiana not raise warning bells when it's used in Texas?


To be fair, you want your card not working just because you're out of state? And you want to not eat because of that?
/
Reminds me .... cashier ran my card twice.  So bank of America locked up the account completely till it resolved. Grocery store guy looked at me at like I was cow and should just be okay with having all my money locked up over the weekend.  He lucky I obey the law. Jfc.  AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T WANT HYPER ACTIVE SECURITY FLAGGING BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ASS OUT OVER THE WEEKEND.  WHAT KIND OF LUCKY PERSON ARE THAT YOU HAVE NO PERSPECTIVE?
 
2022-06-22 11:10:34 AM  
Come on hackers, set your sights a little higher maybe. There's loads of super wealthy people out there who likely have the same shiatty security on their stuff.
 
2022-06-22 11:12:16 AM  

rustypouch: Such a complicated system.

Why not just people money, like we do in the Great White North, and let them spend it how they will. It really cuts down on expenses.

Or is the system designed to shame people for having a rough patch?


To be fair it was originally handled by the  Agricultural department. Because it actually a way to help food producers.
 
2022-06-22 11:12:38 AM  

TomDooley: More reason to just replace all "entitlements" with UBI.


💯
 
2022-06-22 11:13:45 AM  

Spartapuss: Salmon: Madman drummers bummers: Ah, yes, the old Reverse Robin Hood.

/ No, I'm not going to look that up on urbandictionary. I don't want to know.

I've heard of getting a Friar Tuck but not a Reverse Robin Hood.

It's where you run around with loose pants in front of Big John.


greeeeeat, going to have to clear history after looking all these up.

/and of course and absolutely no surprise: there's plenty of material out there.
 
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