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2022-06-22 7:55:20 AM  
Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.
 
2022-06-22 8:13:19 AM  
As a teen in the 90s I worked at an Applebee's. The system allowed servers to transfer items between bills without a manager. Presumably this was so splitting a bill was easy for the server. But it let them move it to other tables, too.

Someone figured out you could transfer a common item like a soda to a different table so if table A paid cash so if you had 16 tables during your shift the same soda might get paid for 3-5 times and the server pockets the cash on all but one of them.

Not huge amounts but an extra $5-$10 every shift (in 1995 dollars) is your weekend bar tab or whatever.

/system was changed by the time I was old enough to wait tables
 
2022-06-22 8:17:10 AM  
Which confirms why sometimes it is crazy town when I see my account activity charged, refunded, different amount maybe w/o tip or not, then recharged to account???
 
2022-06-22 8:27:08 AM  
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2022-06-22 8:34:24 AM  
You mean when the Popeye's credit card machine would be down every Sunday night so they could only accept cash it was a scam?
 
2022-06-22 9:04:57 AM  
Good systems log every order, add-on, keystroke/touch, etc. so you can flag and review every operation on a POS terminal.

One employee slips up once during a shift and adds bacon to a sandwich and immediately deletes it? Not a problem.

One employee voids dozens of orders during a shift? That's a problem.
 
2022-06-22 9:09:23 AM  
We lost the best restaurant in town, just blocks away, from that.  The son was the embezzler.  The restaurant had been in business for almost 100 years and was so embarrassed they kept the nature of the crime secret.  I even called the landlord's company and stopped short of calling a friend whose family owned the company.  I thought they had a cash shortfall, and there were enough loyal, long time customers, they could world something out.

They reopened, a mile away, but the charm was gone.
 
2022-06-22 9:13:44 AM  
The last bit of advice is really good: Call the IRS on the embezzler. If your normal channels of recompense fail you, remember that If Uncle Sam doesn't get a cut of all the cash the thieves stole from you (because you know the thieves didn't report that income lol), you can put them in jail for the rest of their lives.
 
2022-06-22 9:14:00 AM  
That was on top of the $115,000 in salaries he paid in total each year to the two employees.

$57500 a year to work a Jimmy Johns? That's more than I'm making as a telecom engineer....

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2022-06-22 9:19:15 AM  
"he estimates the former employees stole close to $100,000 in cash receipts. That was on top of the $115,000 in salaries he paid in total each year to the two employees."

It never ceases to amaze me that even when paying someone decent money there are those that will choose to defraud their employer.

CSB time:

In 2012 I drove away from a horribly run specialized trucking company due to the top boss being dishonest (and blatantly breaking laws and putting into writing demanding people violate laws), never paying in full or on time and yet seemed to have money to venture into schemes like selling fake sports jerseys from China (they got seized by CBSA), all the while saying the owner gave approval. During legal proceedings the boss hired a top dollar legal firm after claiming their regular lawyer wasn't available and pleaded for a delay of a year (he got a month) and evidence produced showed the boss had said the owner was fully aware of everything.

That went on for about three years when the owner got a clue-by-four and found out how much the boss had defrauded the company and owner. Police were involved in seizing equipment and records and removing boss from the site. Owner was extra disturbed about the legal proceedings were boss falsely claimed to have acted with owner/company authority and boss had produced false documents in the process.

Former boss has basically been exposed as a fraud on top of his prior blatant wrongs in a very small and specialized industry that people a very keen to avoid, I had one or two lingering doubts if I did the right thing by GTFOing the fark out, all that has certainly been erased. Boss would claim the stupidest contrived problems as making the company look bad, fark you D. I enjoy seeing him actively avoiding me, although I must admit part of me would like to see him FAFO (even more).

He threw away a 80,000 job sitting in an air-conditioned office with a big window and beautiful view, and his greed and ignorance also threw away so many friendships... the owner was best man at his wedding.
 
2022-06-22 9:20:50 AM  
When I was in high school one of my classmates was caught embezzling from a McDonalds he was managing. I think it was for tens of thousands of dollars. It's a hard scam to run because you're doing it right out in the open.
 
2022-06-22 9:22:23 AM  

BizarreMan: You mean when the Popeye's credit card machine would be down every Sunday night so they could only accept cash it was a scam?


My Chick fil a is cash only ALL day on Sundays.
 
2022-06-22 9:30:09 AM  
I figured the scam was even simpler than that. I thought they'd intentionally forget to give the receipt to customers (i.e. friends)- "Oh sorry, I forgot to give you a receipt *nudge* *nudge*. I guess your next sandwich is free..." "Oh, I forgot to give you a receipt on your free sandwich? I guess your next sandwich is free too."
 
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2022-06-22 9:30:42 AM  

Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.


NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.
 
2022-06-22 9:34:17 AM  
I guy I used to work with had a prior career as a flying-team manager for a large pizza chain. When a store started to fail, the flying team would be sent in from Corporate to fix it.

What my friend knew (and what Corporate was apparently unaware of) was that these store failures were almost always caused by side-ringing and selling pies out the back door for cash.

He would suss out the scam as soon as he showed up and tell the scammers that they'd been caught, but that they'd have a few weeks to wind things down before the store went back to running straight. The manager was already fired (because the store was failing), so they were out of the picture at this point.

For those few weeks he'd slowly reduce the percentage of the scamming to actual sales (and, yes, pocket a share of it), and when the store was running straight again, he'd go back to Corporate and get another assignment. To Corporate, the books looked ass though he had just fixed ordinary store problems, and he was the hero.

That was in the eighties and early nineties.
 
2022-06-22 9:36:57 AM  
At least they were professional enough to write the note with a sharpie.  Is it that hard to find a printer and Word or Google Docs?
 
2022-06-22 9:38:14 AM  

amigafin: That was on top of the $115,000 in salaries he paid in total each year to the two employees.

$57500 a year to work a Jimmy Johns? That's more than I'm making as a telecom engineer....

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It said they were managers... also, you should consider a different employer or demanding a raise.  Have you looked at wages recently?

What gets me is that the owner didn't realize fraud at that level.  You'd think he'd realize that he's ordering way more food than he's "selling".

The other odd thing is that he hired a husband and wife to manage his restaurant.  Presumably one of them was the general manager and the other was actually an assistant manager.  Usually businesses don't allow that sort of thing for multiple reasons.
 
2022-06-22 9:46:41 AM  

electricjebus: amigafin: That was on top of the $115,000 in salaries he paid in total each year to the two employees.

$57500 a year to work a Jimmy Johns? That's more than I'm making as a telecom engineer....

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It said they were managers... also, you should consider a different employer or demanding a raise.  Have you looked at wages recently?

What gets me is that the owner didn't realize fraud at that level.  You'd think he'd realize that he's ordering way more food than he's "selling".

The other odd thing is that he hired a husband and wife to manage his restaurant.  Presumably one of them was the general manager and the other was actually an assistant manager.  Usually businesses don't allow that sort of thing for multiple reasons.


I wonder what kind of revenue a jimmy John's pulls down to hide that kind of loss for awhile. Presumably they weren't doing this all day every day.

I should open a jimmy John's franchise
 
2022-06-22 9:47:58 AM  
A long, long, long time ago, I used to be a bar manager.  This was back in the day when most people paid cash.  A common bartender scam was not ringing up draft beer and putting the cash in the tip jar.  Draft beer was so cheap, that it was tough to notice the difference and the camera was only focused on the cash register.   A bartender could have pulled a tip off another part of the bar and put it in the tip jar.

But, we almost always caught people because there isn't much money in this scam.  Bartenders would move to doing this with pricier mixed drinks.  It was a lot easier to notice missing liquor.
 
2022-06-22 9:49:23 AM  

stuhayes2010: At least they were professional enough to write the note with a sharpie.  Is it that hard to find a printer and Word or Google Docs?


They were embezzled too.
 
2022-06-22 9:50:54 AM  

151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.


It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.
 
2022-06-22 9:52:12 AM  
electricjebus:

The other odd thing is that he hired a husband and wife to manage his restaurant.  Presumably one of them was the general manager and the other was actually an assistant manager.  Usually businesses don't allow that sort of thing for multiple reasons.

Were they husband and wife when he hired them, or did they end up together after meeting at work.
 
2022-06-22 9:52:34 AM  
'Saladin said he began to suspect something was amiss after he agreed to take over the Monday and Tuesday shifts for the couple so they could have two consecutive days off together. He said he noticed that cash receipts at the end of the nights on Mondays and Tuesdays were "substantially larger" than when he wasn't manning the till, and that this was consistent over several weeks.'

If you are going to skim the register, you better not take any days off or your scam will be exposed. A manager at a local restaurant got nailed for this when her father passed and she took a week off. The shortage will always be noticed.
 
2022-06-22 9:52:57 AM  
Apropos of nothing, it bothers me that when a business steals from employees or customers, the police always say it's a civil matter, but when anyone steals from a business, it's always a criminal matter.
 
2022-06-22 9:54:23 AM  
As is normal, the bad element wrecking things is the management itself.  Funny how it always works out that way.

This is one of those happy anomalies where they actually got punished instead of just blaming it all on some unlucky random underling and carrying on as usual.
 
151 [OhFark]
2022-06-22 9:55:08 AM  

electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.


It really wasn't odd, I can't remember the exact circumstances, but he had a giant wad of cash and his total was like 16 something, kept finding 5s and 10s, then he was like "ah, here it is, there's 20"

It was 3am at 7-11. Not exactly the 9-5 crowd who have all their wits about them
 
2022-06-22 9:56:36 AM  

Liadan: electricjebus:

The other odd thing is that he hired a husband and wife to manage his restaurant.  Presumably one of them was the general manager and the other was actually an assistant manager.  Usually businesses don't allow that sort of thing for multiple reasons.

Were they husband and wife when he hired them, or did they end up together after meeting at work.


That's even worse, rule #1 of management is "Don't fark the workers!", that's why we make enough to buy good hookers.

There's usually only one general manager, then assistant manger(s).  If the owner was coming in so they could both take the same two days off one of them was probably the only assistant manager... and the owner was probably friends with them.
 
2022-06-22 9:56:47 AM  

aungen: My Chick fil a is cash only ALL day on Sundays.


Chic-fil-a will eventually be found out to be one of the most fraudulent businesses in the country. No business that closely associated with evangelical christianity can be clean.
 
2022-06-22 9:58:30 AM  

151: electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.

It really wasn't odd, I can't remember the exact circumstances, but he had a giant wad of cash and his total was like 16 something, kept finding 5s and 10s, then he was like "ah, here it is, there's 20"

It was 3am at 7-11. Not exactly the 9-5 crowd who have all their wits about them


Touche
 
2022-06-22 9:59:18 AM  

heywood-jablome: "he estimates the former employees stole close to $100,000 in cash receipts. That was on top of the $115,000 in salaries he paid in total each year to the two employees."

It never ceases to amaze me that even when paying someone decent money there are those that will choose to defraud their employer.

CSB time:

In 2012 I drove away from a horribly run specialized trucking company due to the top boss being dishonest (and blatantly breaking laws and putting into writing demanding people violate laws), never paying in full or on time and yet seemed to have money to venture into schemes like selling fake sports jerseys from China (they got seized by CBSA), all the while saying the owner gave approval. During legal proceedings the boss hired a top dollar legal firm after claiming their regular lawyer wasn't available and pleaded for a delay of a year (he got a month) and evidence produced showed the boss had said the owner was fully aware of everything.

That went on for about three years when the owner got a clue-by-four and found out how much the boss had defrauded the company and owner. Police were involved in seizing equipment and records and removing boss from the site. Owner was extra disturbed about the legal proceedings were boss falsely claimed to have acted with owner/company authority and boss had produced false documents in the process.

Former boss has basically been exposed as a fraud on top of his prior blatant wrongs in a very small and specialized industry that people a very keen to avoid, I had one or two lingering doubts if I did the right thing by GTFOing the fark out, all that has certainly been erased. Boss would claim the stupidest contrived problems as making the company look bad, fark you D. I enjoy seeing him actively avoiding me, although I must admit part of me would like to see him FAFO (even more).

He threw away a 80,000 job sitting in an air-conditioned office with a big window and beautiful view, and his greed and ignorance also threw away so many friendships... the owner was best man at his wedding.


Meanwhile, my mom did the books for a company bringing them into the black and helping them to stop bouncing checks. And she did this for practically for free. Scumbag owner now has a beautiful home. fark business owners. fark them in the ear.
 
151 [OhFark]
2022-06-22 9:59:26 AM  

151: electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.

It really wasn't odd, I can't remember the exact circumstances, but he had a giant wad of cash and his total was like 16 something, kept finding 5s and 10s, then he was like "ah, here it is, there's 20"

It was 3am at 7-11. Not exactly the 9-5 crowd who have all their wits about them


Forgot to add, it definitely wasn't a setup/sting type thing. There was some reason the owner (who worked every day) needed to watch the cameras from that night, unrelated, and he saw me crumple the money then walk away and come back real quick (because I knew where the dead zones on the cameras were and put the 20 in my pocket in the dead zone)
 
2022-06-22 10:04:40 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: I wonder what kind of revenue a jimmy John's pulls down to hide that kind of loss for awhile. Presumably they weren't doing this all day every day.

I should open a jimmy John's franchise


A Jimmy John's in Sunset Hills probably does make a decent amount of money.  There's a lot of businesses and stores in that area.  But still, when you're talking about deli meat and bread that sort of discrepancy should have been noticed.
 
2022-06-22 10:11:36 AM  
SIR, this is and Arbys.
 
2022-06-22 10:14:19 AM  

electricjebus: I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.


I hope you have ironed out your youthful discretions.
 
2022-06-22 10:25:09 AM  

Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.


This is how I know you never worked in the nightclub/bar business.  We all got summer jobs at nightclubs in Long Island when we were teens, you know, during our dirty-cute years (17-19)--we brought in business just hanging around.  Every single kid I knew stole from their job.  Every one.  No one got caught: Not the girl running void checks with the help of the kitchen staff (they made bank), not the door guys pocketing entry fees or ticket receipts, not the bartenders certainly.  Me, I was just a lowly barback, but I'd go back and once a week steal a selection of beer and wine, just so we didn't have to spend our stolen spoils on honest booze.

There's just too much cash in some businesses for ownership to ever catch up, and ofc it doesn't hurt that nightclub owners tend to be degenerate drug users and will fire people more or less randomly anyway, so there's no real incentive to be "good" when you work with them.
 
2022-06-22 10:26:59 AM  
BitwiseShift:

Because the trust and history are gone.

The owners a little bit bitter etc.
 
151 [OhFark]
2022-06-22 10:27:28 AM  

electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.


Re: selling to friends, OH BOY did that entire town love me that year or so I worked there. All my friends got ALL the booze they could ever want, and would pay me in weed just for selling to them. Back then all I had to do was ask for id, and so many times a hot girl would come in and I'd ask, she's like "OH NO I totally forgot it at home" "welp, grab a credit card or a piece of paper or some shiat out your wallet, just to make it look like I give a fark"

Now, I'm 40, look like it, and every store around me actually has to scan IDs to sell alcohol. No matter who, how old, no id, no alcohol.
 
2022-06-22 10:27:59 AM  

AngryTeacher: A long, long, long time ago, I used to be a bar manager.  This was back in the day when most people paid cash.  A common bartender scam was not ringing up draft beer and putting the cash in the tip jar.  Draft beer was so cheap, that it was tough to notice the difference and the camera was only focused on the cash register.   A bartender could have pulled a tip off another part of the bar and put it in the tip jar.

But, we almost always caught people because there isn't much money in this scam.  Bartenders would move to doing this with pricier mixed drinks.  It was a lot easier to notice missing liquor.


I worked for a well know bar/dance club owner in north Atlanta back in the day. Well let just say at least he cared enough to use filtered water instead of tap water to water down the liquor bottles.
 
2022-06-22 10:36:43 AM  
I didn't read every post.
Inventory. Know your inventory. We need 1000 drink cups, 1000 hamburger patties and buns and fries for 1000 orders. We sold 900 burgers, 500 fries, and 100 drinks after our last order. Yup, everything is good. Jesus h xmas it was screamed at me constantly when i worked my first concession stand when i was 15 "those cups are inventoried" and "that slice of cheese cost 15 cents". no ahole it costs the company 1 cent or less. here is one cent.
 
2022-06-22 10:36:55 AM  

aungen: BizarreMan: You mean when the Popeye's credit card machine would be down every Sunday night so they could only accept cash it was a scam?

My Chick fil a is cash only ALL day on Sundays.


That's a tithe. It's okay to steal from the collection plate.
 
151 [OhFark]
2022-06-22 10:38:09 AM  

151: electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.

Re: selling to friends, OH BOY did that entire town love me that year or so I worked there. All my friends got ALL the booze they could ever want, and would pay me in weed just for selling to them. Back then all I had to do was ask for id, and so many times a hot girl would come in and I'd ask, she's like "OH NO I totally forgot it at home" "welp, grab a credit card or a piece of paper or some shiat out your wallet, just to make it look like I give a fark"

Now, I'm 40, look like it, and every store around me actually has to scan IDs to sell alcohol. No matter who, how old, no id, no alcohol.


Oh yeah lmao, one night like 5 of my friends came in, bought booze underage, then 2 other people that I kinda knew and had sold to before because they were sexy, and I'm a garbage human. 2 days later owner calls an emergency meeting, because we got caught in a sting, 2k he had to pay, first offense. Entire meeting I'm freaking out thinking it was me that got hit, then at the end he says something about it happened on day shift, I let out the most audible "WHEW" EVER heard
 
2022-06-22 10:44:08 AM  
Jimmy John's being assholes trifecta in play?

Good, because f*ck Jimmy John's.
 
2022-06-22 10:47:39 AM  
Hah. I did this while working at Starbucks in college & after for years. Every exact change/'keep the change' transaction went to the Me Fund so I could make rent on the paltry pay. I made thousands and never got caught. I also regularly fenced espresso machines, and was forever stocked with milk & TP.

I also fenced corporate laptops as an executive admin, and did brisk business in iPhones and Macs while working for Apple. Never got caught.

Big biz guys like Howard Schultz are slow to realize that if you don't give employees what they need to live, and you give them the keys to the castle every day, they're gonna loot your ass exponentially more than benefits and decent pay would have cost. Just because I'm lower on the org chart doesn't mean I'm dumb. I'm less incentivized to suck corporate cock or care about the biz bottom line over my own.

When it comes to corporations, steal 'em blind with wild abandon (and a careful eye towards LP morons).
 
2022-06-22 10:53:40 AM  

Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.


HAHHAHA oh man that's some goody-two shoes stuff right there. Keep doing you, do-gooder. I need choir boy simps like you to run cover while I steal greedy employers blind.

Here's the real deal from someone who pulled it off: observe, test, and plan. If you get caught, you're bad at it and should never do it again. If you don't, hey free stuff!
 
2022-06-22 10:54:50 AM  
CSB:
As a teen I pulled this exact scam at the local diner I worked at. This was back in the 80's so almost everyone paid cash. I would target one or two tickets a night, big ones (family meals) and pocket the money, so I would make 30-40 extra dollars per night. (I was making like 4 bucks and hour or similar so this was pretty a pretty big boost)

Eventually someone spotted me pocketing the cash or destroying the paper ticket even though I was very sly. I was told I was fired one day with no reason. I didn't ask, I was just glad they didn't call the cops.
END CSB
 
2022-06-22 10:55:52 AM  
Was working for a parking lot company while in electronics school. Lots of cashiers, lots of cash, lots of cash control. They found out a cashier at one of the remote lots was skimming. They let him carry on till he made it into felony territory, then called the cops. They even boasted about it. Management was scum.
 
2022-06-22 11:00:13 AM  

electricjebus: 151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.

It didn't strike you as odd that he said what kind of bill he was handing you?  I worked as a cashier in High School as well, I don't think I've ever heard a customer saying what kind of bill they were handing me.

I didn't steel, but I did sell alcohol to underaged friends.  I would card them, pretend to read it and then ring them out.



That right there makes me think it was a set-up & they'd been onto him for a while. They were just waiting for another incident to add to the list.
 
2022-06-22 11:01:22 AM  
Years ago I worked for a non profit association that had about 30 people in the office, they hired a young lady for procurement after they brought me on and damn if she didn't scam the place she was ordering a bunch of office supplies and was selling them online. I think they started to figure it out when they did an audit of the place and started keeping an eye on her. One time they asked me to get them if she got a big order in and sure enough one came in and I got them. They had me redirect the order to a meeting room and asked if I could get into the box without looking like I got in the box. I kinda could and I just opened it from the bottom and we looked in it and there were hundreds of highlighters that this place would not use in a lifetime. We inspected the other boxes and same story, large amounts of stuff that was not needed. It was about a week after that she was fired and charges filed against her. She got way too greedy, might have worked in a huge corporation with 1000s of people but an office with 30 was probably not going to work.
 
2022-06-22 11:03:43 AM  

deadsanta: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

This is how I know you never worked in the nightclub/bar business.  We all got summer jobs at nightclubs in Long Island when we were teens, you know, during our dirty-cute years (17-19)--we brought in business just hanging around.  Every single kid I knew stole from their job.  Every one.  No one got caught: Not the girl running void checks with the help of the kitchen staff (they made bank), not the door guys pocketing entry fees or ticket receipts, not the bartenders certainly.  Me, I was just a lowly barback, but I'd go back and once a week steal a selection of beer and wine, just so we didn't have to spend our stolen spoils on honest booze.

There's just too much cash in some businesses for ownership to ever catch up, and ofc it doesn't hurt that nightclub owners tend to be degenerate drug users and will fire people more or less randomly anyway, so there's no real incentive to be "good" when you work with them.


Never got caught, or never got busted? The owners not thinking enough cash was walking out the door to worry about it I'll buy. That the owners were fooled by teenagers for years? C'mon now.
 
2022-06-22 11:04:35 AM  

151: Weaver95: Don't steal from the company. They will ALWAYS catch you.
If you absolutely need to steal money from people - then just become a stock broker or banker.
But never steal money from the register. That's just stupid.

NCSB: when I was an 18 year old asshole, I worked midnights at 7-11. I would constantly rob the liquor cabinet, like for a couple months, not even calculated, not smart about it, didn't even try to make up for what I took when I was doing inventory. Never got caught.

One day a customer gave me a 50 and he thought it was a 20 (he literally said here's 20 as he handed it to me), so I rang it up as such, and thought I was being sneaky as fark the next time a customer actually handed me a 20, I crumpled it up in my hand, pretended to put it in the register, gave them their correct change. The register was still like 12$ over even with me taking that 20, but nope, got fired literally the next day for stealing.

Don't be an asshole kids. And don't take shiat that ain't yours. Ever.


Pretty sure your manager was onto you and set up the $50 cash sale to confirm their suspicions.
 
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