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2022-06-18 9:47:49 PM  
This just in: the police are idiots. They are not here to help you. They joined so they could be racist and abuse people. Turning to them for assistance is a waste of time. And never ever call them if a family member is having a mental health  crisis or else your family member will end up  murdered by them.
 
2022-06-18 10:05:19 PM  
This is why we in Dallas gave DPD more money. This exact reason.
 
2022-06-18 10:47:29 PM  
Dallas PD: "Is your daughter a fetus?"

Dad: "No, she's fifteen"

DPD: "We don't care then"
 
2022-06-18 11:28:41 PM  
They're in the grassy knoll.
 
2022-06-19 4:55:38 AM  
Fortenberry said he has not yet received a response from any of the parties to whom he sent the letter. But he said he hopes to hear back within the next month, so the situation can be settled without a lawsuit.

It won't be.
 
2022-06-19 7:00:14 AM  
The police do not work for the people, how many times do you have to be shown this?
 
2022-06-19 7:02:11 AM  
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2022-06-19 7:09:18 AM  
So protocol is that 'all children are assumed to be runaways'; and merely files paperwork alleging such?

So what you're saying is kidnappings are just point blank not investigated in Texas? Which is likely to explain why there are so many problems with human trafficking there.
 
2022-06-19 7:10:12 AM  

Walker: This just in: the police are idiots. They are not here to help you. They joined so they could be racist and abuse people. Turning to them for assistance is a waste of time. And never ever call them if a family member is having a mental health  crisis or else your family member will end up  murdered by them.


What you really mean is i shouldn't listen to steve winwood when I read your posts.

A piece of metal thrown from some other asshole can kill you.

They call them amendments for a reason.
Amendment so maniacs or in cel or just bc ain't given the power to kill you in my motherfarking life.

Ridiculous.
 
2022-06-19 7:10:57 AM  

ProfessorTerguson: Walker: This just in: the police are idiots. They are not here to help you. They joined so they could be racist and abuse people. Turning to them for assistance is a waste of time. And never ever call them if a family member is having a mental health  crisis or else your family member will end up  murdered by them.

What you really mean is i shouldn't listen to steve winwood when I read your posts.

A piece of metal thrown from some other asshole can kill you.

They call them amendments for a reason.
Amendment so maniacs or in cel or just bc ain't given the power to kill you in my motherfarking life.

Ridiculous.


Love ur posts btw
 
2022-06-19 7:13:28 AM  
"Defund the police"
"But what if you need the police and need to call them; what will happen then?"
"Absolutely nothing, exactly the same as now."
 
2022-06-19 7:21:09 AM  

Sim Tree: "Defund the police"
"But what if you need the police and need to call them; what will happen then?"
"Absolutely nothing, exactly the same as now."


Community action.
How many cops drive where you are?
It's not a deterrent to over fund a wanna be Gestapo.


One reason I  didn't become a cop was I didn't want to bust people for crimes I have done.
You?
 
2022-06-19 7:30:08 AM  
Officer Gallant (OKC PD) "You say this girl's being held for the sex trade? We're on it!"
Officer Goofus (All the Texas agencies) "Not my circus. Not my monkeys."

The stupidity starts with stadium security. The abduction happened inside their facility, it was their responsibility to start the process.
 
2022-06-19 7:34:52 AM  
Cops are awesome!

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2022-06-19 7:36:00 AM  
I've got some understanding of the runaway issue. But have always been uneasy with the policies of 24 hours or something of a child missing before they admit it's a problem. And the assumption that a parent has no understanding of their child to declare, "No, this isn't like that." That the cop, a stranger, knows better based on policy or experience with strangers entirely unlike the child he's currently discussing.
 
2022-06-19 7:36:07 AM  

Another Government Employee: Officer Gallant (OKC PD) "You say this girl's being held for the sex trade? We're on it!"
Officer Goofus (All the Texas agencies) "Not my circus. Not my monkeys."

The stupidity starts with stadium security. The abduction happened inside their facility, it was their responsibility to start the process.


Like all sports facilities, the local cops are also there working the games. As a backup to security or if something major happens, you know, like a kidnapping. But they're on OT, which is all they really care about.
 
2022-06-19 7:37:24 AM  
"Our intent is to put (these organizations) on notice that we're pursuing claims against them for their negligence and other causes of action," Fortenberry said.

Cops don't gotta do sh*t and you can't make 'em. Supreme Court out front should'a told ya
 
2022-06-19 7:42:57 AM  
I feel for the family. That she was found alive is a miracle by itself.
 
2022-06-19 7:49:19 AM  
ACAB
 
2022-06-19 7:49:35 AM  

Sim Tree: So protocol is that 'all children are assumed to be runaways'; and merely files paperwork alleging such?

So what you're saying is kidnappings are just point blank not investigated in Texas? Which is likely to explain why there are so many problems with human trafficking there.


I never understood that mindset. So what if they are runaways? They're still minors and need to be cared for. they're in no less danger than someone who was taken against their will.
 
2022-06-19 7:51:23 AM  
no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?
 
2022-06-19 7:54:32 AM  
I hope that family sues the shiat out of the stadium. So what if she was a runaway you should still look but hey I guess if she wasn't a rich white guy they don't have to do anything.
 
2022-06-19 8:03:32 AM  

Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?


I am pretty sure that 15 years is old enough to go to the bathroom unsupervised in any normal situation.
 
2022-06-19 8:07:05 AM  
This story sucks in so many ways. Not only for what happened to this family but how it will add to the sex trafficking hysteria to pass more laws against sex workers and LGBTQ folks (because clearly they're the real pedos).

Legal and regulated sex work would make a huge difference. Instead we'll get more relaxed gun laws and for some reason, more useless police.
 
2022-06-19 8:09:48 AM  
THIS.

That being said, the article said she "left with an older guy." That is so incredibly vague. Was she being dragged? Was she excitedly walking out with him? That video could greatly change what the cops' response should have been.
 
2022-06-19 8:10:22 AM  

Another Government Employee: Officer Gallant (OKC PD) "You say this girl's being held for the sex trade? We're on it!"
Officer Goofus (All the Texas agencies) "Not my circus. Not my monkeys."

The stupidity starts with stadium security. The abduction happened inside their facility, it was their responsibility to start the process.


Ah, but if the report is filed in their jurisdiction, then when someone does a public records request, it shows how many kidnappings happen there.

If they talk the parents into filing it elsewhere, then not only do they bot have to deal with paperwork, but no kidnappings show up on their shift / area of responsibility.

/was told by the town chief of police to not bother to file a report for illegal dumping, as there's no way to catch anyone for it
//was town commissioner at the time
///also dug through the trash, found a name & order number from Home Depot, got another officer to file it, Abs he tracked down the person
////and it turns out state law requires all dumping incidents to be reported to the department of environmental resources
//probably should've filed small claims for my costs & time for disposing of it
 
2022-06-19 8:14:42 AM  
This story is now a month old. Her parents were doing interviews this week on ESPN. The kid had a history of running away and this time it bit her in the ass. She wasn't kidnapped, she left the game with someone voluntarily. The kid needs therapy and the parents need to get their shiat together.

On April 15, Oklahoma City police searched rooms in an Extended Stay America hotel on West Reno Avenue. They made three initial arrests but didn't find the girl. After an anonymous tip, police found her three days later, walking with another person 6 miles away from the hotel. How she got to Oklahoma City remains unclear.
 
2022-06-19 8:16:21 AM  

omnimancer28: Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?

I am pretty sure that 15 years is old enough to go to the bathroom unsupervised in any normal situation.


true. but in crowded environments like this it is the opportunity that these creeps look for.  and as someone just stated above "left with an older guy" is pretty vague on how he left with her.
 
2022-06-19 8:17:43 AM  

sleze: THIS.

That being said, the article said she "left with an older guy." That is so incredibly vague. Was she being dragged? Was she excitedly walking out with him? That video could greatly change what the cops' response should have been.


It could've been something as simple as someone managed to overhear her name, then approached her when she was coming back to her seat and said "(name), your dad got hurt, I've been asked to take you to the hospital".  And the kid thinks, "he knows my name, this must be legit".

My family had a secret code word for those situations.  If anyone came to get me or my brothers, even if it was someone we knew, if we weren't told by our parents in advance it was going to happen ("Dave's mom is going to give you a ride back after (whatever)"), we didn't go with them.

/and the word isn't English, and isn't easy to pronounce
 
2022-06-19 8:20:37 AM  

Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?


Not sure if this is sarcasm since Poe's Law and all, but "How dare those people act like they live in a civilized society rather than a survival horror game" is... a take.

There is no fault in anyone who decides to leave the house, or go to the bathroom, or not be armed at all times, or to literally just exist in society, and someone else decides to hurt them.  If other people hurt them, then the fault lies solely with the people who hurt them.  Being able to freely and safely go about your business should be the accepted default, and our ire should be pointed firmly in the direction of the people who disrupt that, not the people who "let" themselves become victims by going out in public without a full arsenal, an iron cage, and an army of escorts to protect themselves.
 
2022-06-19 8:24:13 AM  

jimjays: I've got some understanding of the runaway issue. But have always been uneasy with the policies of 24 hours or something of a child missing before they admit it's a problem. And the assumption that a parent has no understanding of their child to declare, "No, this isn't like that." That the cop, a stranger, knows better based on policy or experience with strangers entirely unlike the child he's currently discussing.


You give them hard rules when you aren't impressed with their subjectivity.  And with cops, well...hard rules may not be the worst thing.
 
2022-06-19 8:26:44 AM  

sleze: That being said, the article said she "left with an older guy." That is so incredibly vague. Was she being dragged? Was she excitedly walking out with him? That video could greatly change what the cops' response should have been.


I'm curious if she left voluntarily or not (she may have been conned into a meetup by the man), but she'd be in apparent danger either way, so shouldn't the response be basically the same?

I can see a difference if she were an adult, as unexpectedly but voluntarily leaving with an older man wouldn't be as clear a sign of danger as with a child.
 
2022-06-19 8:28:35 AM  

Oneiros: sleze: THIS.

That being said, the article said she "left with an older guy." That is so incredibly vague. Was she being dragged? Was she excitedly walking out with him? That video could greatly change what the cops' response should have been.

It could've been something as simple as someone managed to overhear her name, then approached her when she was coming back to her seat and said "(name), your dad got hurt, I've been asked to take you to the hospital".  And the kid thinks, "he knows my name, this must be legit".

My family had a secret code word for those situations.  If anyone came to get me or my brothers, even if it was someone we knew, if we weren't told by our parents in advance it was going to happen ("Dave's mom is going to give you a ride back after (whatever)"), we didn't go with them.

/and the word isn't English, and isn't easy to pronounce


Amateur stuff. You want to choose a word that can be comprehended through a ball gag.
 
2022-06-19 8:34:34 AM  

Mogani: No mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.


This sounds like the type of comment that a man who likes to "supervise" 15 year old girls going to the bathroon would make...
 
2022-06-19 8:41:12 AM  

Ambivalence: Sim Tree: So protocol is that 'all children are assumed to be runaways'; and merely files paperwork alleging such?

So what you're saying is kidnappings are just point blank not investigated in Texas? Which is likely to explain why there are so many problems with human trafficking there.

I never understood that mindset. So what if they are runaways? They're still minors and need to be cared for. they're in no less danger than someone who was taken against their will.


Especially since it's known sexual predators and sex traffickers target teen runaways. Over half of female runaways are approached by one of the above in the first 24 hours.

It's another one of those areas where some basic money into social services would go a long way, but instead we just dump it on the police.
 
2022-06-19 8:42:22 AM  
Today I learned that because the police, event security, and hotel security all do nothing there is a Good Samaritan network of people who run facial recognition through online sex ads to find and save missing children who are being raped for money.

Happy Father's Day.
 
2022-06-19 8:43:10 AM  

omnimancer28: Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?

I am pretty sure that 15 years is old enough to go to the bathroom unsupervised in any normal situation.


No.

Also you need to barricade your schools, and give the teachers weapons.

And buy an AR-15 to "protect my family".
 
2022-06-19 8:44:01 AM  

ProfessorTerguson: What you really mean is i shouldn't listen to steve winwood when I read your posts.


If you can't read about sex trafficking without Bring Me a Higher Love playing in your head, then you're a sick bastiche.
 
2022-06-19 8:46:15 AM  

Nero Kalem: Mogani: No mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.

This sounds like the type of comment that a man who likes to "supervise" 15 year old girls going to the bathroon would make...


I seriously want to know what happened between the bathroom and leaving the stadium.

Did the abductor have a weapon and just grabbed a random teen?

Had he been specifically grooming her online and she finally told him where she'd be so she could go with him

Did they know one another from some other place and he told her weird lies to leave?

There's more to this story that needs to be outed. None of these scenarios are exculpatory but they do matter for the purpose of learning how these creeps work.
 
2022-06-19 8:51:16 AM  

Nero Kalem: Mogani: No mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.

This sounds like the type of comment that a man who likes to "supervise" 15 year old girls going to the bathroon would make...


That there's how he gets a farkie...
 
2022-06-19 8:52:00 AM  
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2022-06-19 8:52:22 AM  

ProfessorTerguson: ProfessorTerguson: Walker: This just in: the police are idiots. They are not here to help you. They joined so they could be racist and abuse people. Turning to them for assistance is a waste of time. And never ever call them if a family member is having a mental health  crisis or else your family member will end up  murdered by them.

What you really mean is i shouldn't listen to steve winwood when I read your posts.

A piece of metal thrown from some other asshole can kill you.

They call them amendments for a reason.
Amendment so maniacs or in cel or just bc ain't given the power to kill you in my motherfarking life.

Ridiculous.

Love ur posts btw


Wtf is this shiat?
 
2022-06-19 8:54:45 AM  

Tokin42: This story is now a month old. Her parents were doing interviews this week on ESPN. The kid had a history of running away and this time it bit her in the ass. She wasn't kidnapped, she left the game with someone voluntarily. The kid needs therapy and the parents need to get their shiat together.

On April 15, Oklahoma City police searched rooms in an Extended Stay America hotel on West Reno Avenue. They made three initial arrests but didn't find the girl. After an anonymous tip, police found her three days later, walking with another person 6 miles away from the hotel. How she got to Oklahoma City remains unclear.


Yeah, saw the ESPN story too.  She wasn't snatched from the game, she was a troubled girl who seems to have left with the wrong person:

Kyle Morris, a Mavericks season-ticket holder, said that on the night of the April 8 game against the Portland Trail Blazers, he and his stepdaughter were in the Platinum level of the arena. Just before halftime, the girl told him she needed to use the bathroom. He said she did not have her phone and left her ID and debit card at her seat. When she didn't return, he alerted security, which searched restrooms and inside the arena. Morris said an off-duty police officer working the game told him that surveillance video had shown the girl walking out of the arena and that she was last seen entering a nearby parking garage.
Zeke Fortenberry, the family's lawyer who has seen the surveillance video, said the girl did not appear to leave by force. Kyle and Brooke Morris said their daughter has a history of leaving home without their permission. In those instances, Kyle Morris said, she had left with people she knew, even leaving a note in at least one instance.
"This time," he told ESPN, "... everything about it was different."
.

That doesn't make it OK, or make it her fault, but it does eviscerate the "stranger danger" myth for the people saying daddy should have gone and watched her pee.
 
2022-06-19 8:55:53 AM  

cfreak: This story sucks in so many ways. Not only for what happened to this family but how it will add to the sex trafficking hysteria to pass more laws against sex workers and LGBTQ folks (because clearly they're the real pedos).

Legal and regulated sex work would make a huge difference. Instead we'll get more relaxed gun laws and for some reason, more useless police.


It's a good idea in theory to de-stigmatize sex work until it becomes a valid option to tell a struggling single mom to be a whore instead of receiving assistance.
 
2022-06-19 9:06:25 AM  

Walker: This just in: the police are idiots. They are not here to help you. They joined so they could be racist and abuse people. Turning to them for assistance is a waste of time. And never ever call them if a family member is having a mental health  crisis or else your family member will end up  murdered by them.


Cops where I live aren't great, but they're not that bad.  And when it comes to saving kids, their hero complex kicks in and it's like a fat kid on Smarties.

You call in a missing kid, and the police stations will empty and the streets in the area around where the kid was lost will be swarming with cruisers.

If there is a jurisdictional issue, they'll pass the call to the appropriate police force.  Though really, I live in Ontario where the rule is basically "If you live in a city, the city cops have it except on the major highways, which are the OPP.  If you don't have your own city cops, it's the OPP."  If your kid is 'lost' on a major highway, you have seriously failed as a parent.
 
2022-06-19 9:14:05 AM  

koder: Fortenberry said he has not yet received a response from any of the parties to whom he sent the letter. But he said he hopes to hear back within the next month, so the situation can be settled without a lawsuit.

It won't be.


These f*cking pigs said "Oh, she disappeared here in Dallas? Go report that to the police half an hour from here, because that makes sense."

If this gets "settled" without a major goddamn lawsuit and maybe a dead pig or two, it's a failure of the system.
 
2022-06-19 9:14:19 AM  

edmo: Dallas PD: "Is your daughter a fetus?"

Dad: "No, she's fifteen"

DPD: "We don't care then"


This didn't land well considering Dallas is one of our bluest parts of Texas.  If that happened in Collin County there would have been an armed military response.
 
2022-06-19 9:21:02 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: omnimancer28: Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?

I am pretty sure that 15 years is old enough to go to the bathroom unsupervised in any normal situation.

No.

Also you need to barricade your schools, and give the teachers weapons.

And buy an AR-15 to "protect my family".


Welcome to the Republican Party's vision for America.
 
2022-06-19 9:21:35 AM  
Well in most of the cities I've lived in the local police are accountable to the city government (city council, mayor, etc.).  How long do you think it's going to be before we start seeing candidates listing 'Police Accountability' as one of their major platform points when running for office? 'Cause I gotta tell ya, that would be a huge plus in my decision making process at this point.
 
2022-06-19 9:21:44 AM  

Mogani: omnimancer28: Mogani: no mention of the fact the dad let his 15 year old leave to the bathroom by herself.it's sad and disgusting that there are people who take advantage of these situations but shouldn't the father have gone with the daughter to wait for her? all it takes is some opening and these F**kers take advantage of it. there is a lot of fault on the way it was handled with the system  and there is negligence all around. people tend to ask where are the parents in a lot of situations gone bad but here it's everyone else's responsibility and fault?

I am pretty sure that 15 years is old enough to go to the bathroom unsupervised in any normal situation.

true. but in crowded environments like this it is the opportunity that these creeps look for.  and as someone just stated above "left with an older guy" is pretty vague on how he left with her.


Oh, I thought you were joking and mocking the cops in Uvalde blaming the shooting on a teacher leaving a back door propped open with a rock.
 
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