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(NPR)   There are two ways the mainstream media covers mass shootings. And they even made a movie about it: Dumb and Dumber   (npr.org) divider line
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2022-06-14 1:07:10 PM  
"Hey... Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?"

*inhale*

*recording of everybody offering "thoughts and prayers" overlaid with the sounds of children scfreaming, crying, and dying*
 
2022-06-14 1:21:54 PM  
*sigh* I need to proofread my posts.

Drew, we ever gonna get a limited-timeframe "Edit Post" button?
// I know, I know. Band-Aid for a sucking chest wound...
 
2022-06-14 8:33:55 PM  
For reasons not really understood, reporting on suicides increases suicides. They call it contagion.

The same seems to be true of mass shootings, but there's no way we could ever get the media to ignore them like they do suicides (they used to be reported but stopped for this reason).
 
2022-06-14 8:40:16 PM  
Here's the dumbest thing news organizations do right now:

"Police say..."

The second to last group you should be listening to is cops. The only person with a more garbage point of view than police is the mass shooter.
 
2022-06-14 8:44:26 PM  

Puglio: For reasons not really understood, reporting on suicides increases suicides. They call it contagion.

The same seems to be true of mass shootings, but there's no way we could ever get the media to ignore them like they do suicides (they used to be reported but stopped for this reason).


not understood?

if they can do it, so can I

if the person is leaning that way anyway, what's to understand?
 
2022-06-14 8:44:33 PM  
Headline is kind of harsh for a brief article that's pretty accurate about how the media generally covers mass shootings. If you want to be snarky about it I would have used a Captain Obvious reference.
 
2022-06-14 8:47:38 PM  
Is it the one where Republicans and Republican voters are allowed to express their opinion on camera on a matter they deserve no say in?  And the one where the news outlet treats it like a 50/50 deal?
 
2022-06-14 8:49:17 PM  
Axios Summary:

• two ways mass shootings, like all news, is reported -- episodically or thematically.
• episodic focuses on the individual incident to explain the details and who was to blame and why
• thematically plots it on a larger arc seeking to inform about deeper underlying issues, and what might prevent the incident in the future
• Fox focuses on the former, everyone else tends toward the later.
 
2022-06-14 8:49:33 PM  
Holy shiat, journalism is a lost art.
 
2022-06-14 8:51:22 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Is it the one where Republicans and Republican voters are allowed to express their opinion on camera on a matter they deserve no say in?  And the one where the news outlet treats it like a 50/50 deal?

on a matter they deserve no say in


isn't that pretty much all of them?
 
2022-06-14 9:05:37 PM  

brokenbiscuits: *sigh* I need to proofread my posts.

/ Drew, we ever gonna get a limited-timeframe "Edit Post" button?
// I know, I know. Band-Aid for a sucking chest wound...


I just talked to Drew. He will 'keep you in his heart and mind'. Then a loud belch and giggling about you getting over it. But it sounded like a heartfelt earnest burp.
 
2022-06-14 9:10:01 PM  

petec: Puglio: For reasons not really understood, reporting on suicides increases suicides. They call it contagion.

The same seems to be true of mass shootings, but there's no way we could ever get the media to ignore them like they do suicides (they used to be reported but stopped for this reason).

not understood?

if they can do it, so can I

if the person is leaning that way anyway, what's to understand?


a lot of human progress and innovation came from imitating others and thinking 'I can do that, maybe even better'

it an inbred instinct in humans
 
2022-06-14 9:10:03 PM  
Well, it wasn't exactly a mass shooting...

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2022-06-14 9:24:00 PM  

Puglio: For reasons not really understood, reporting on suicides increases suicides. They call it contagion.

The same seems to be true of mass shootings, but there's no way we could ever get the media to ignore them like they do suicides (they used to be reported but stopped for this reason).


Are you kidding? Every inner-city urban shooting is very suddenly NOW magically a mass shooting used to drum up sentiment in the uninformed single-source news "consumer" in order to further The Current Thing.
When the next big news cause comes along, they'll go back to being "shots fired" by downtown "youths".
 
2022-06-14 9:34:02 PM  
I like NPR, but guns is the one topic on which they have absolutely no credibility. They don't even try to be impartial, and the worst part is that they don't seem to realize it. It's quite the blind spot.
 
2022-06-14 9:43:49 PM  
People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion
 
2022-06-14 10:18:59 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion


Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

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2022-06-14 10:22:15 PM  

ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

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Interesting, that curve goes up at the exact same time and rate ad "Drug overdose and poisoning." 

Whihc, of course, cant be because illegal druigs are illegal
 
2022-06-14 10:28:34 PM  

ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]


...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.
 
2022-06-14 10:33:36 PM  

chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.


Since congenital conditions exist, gun problems don't.  Good argument.  Thanks for setting us straight. I guess I should go harrass people from Parkland and Newtown for congenitaling their kids to death.
 
2022-06-14 10:33:43 PM  

chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.


Well, I guess that solves it. No need to worry about kids getting gunned down in classrooms, it appears that it's really not so bad after all.

Good take, bro.
 
2022-06-14 10:38:44 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.

Since congenital conditions exist, gun problems don't.  Good argument.  Thanks for setting us straight. I guess I should go harrass people from Parkland and Newtown for congenitaling their kids to death.


My position here is don't used massaged data to try to make a point.
 
2022-06-14 10:39:01 PM  

JerkStore: chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.

Well, I guess that solves it. No need to worry about kids getting gunned down in classrooms, it appears that it's really not so bad after all.

Good take, bro.


My position here is don't used massaged data to try to make a point.
 
2022-06-14 10:42:57 PM  
I rather dislike the massive promotion of unconfirmed rumors broadcast in the name of getting a scoop.
And there is almost always confusion in the early hours. That then feeds the idiot conspiracy theorists.
 
2022-06-14 11:40:16 PM  

chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.


If congenital deaths shot up suddenly, I hope we'd seek to do something about it instead of pointing at another unrelated statistic.
 
2022-06-14 11:42:24 PM  
Ice-T on Gun Control USA
Youtube 5chblhYqO2I
Ya can't shoot cops without guns.  "Cop killer" makes a point.
 
2022-06-14 11:56:44 PM  
So, basically you either cover the individuals or the broader topics.

I mean, yes? I don't really see anything overly surprising there. You discuss the incident that happened, who was effected, and then open up the scope to cover the overall issue at large.
 
2022-06-15 9:29:04 AM  

Qellaqan: chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.

If congenital deaths shot up suddenly, I hope we'd seek to do something about it instead of pointing at another unrelated statistic.


It's pretty hard to commit suicide by congenital defect.
 
2022-06-15 10:02:51 AM  

Qellaqan: chrisclarkux: ox45tallboy: GrizzlyPouch: People bad at journalism shouldn't critique it.

Very first sentence "America's mass shooting crisis,"

Sure, mass shootings are a problem.  It's definitely an issue that needs some work.

Crisis? Certainly not a word journalists should be using as if that's a foregone conclusion

Fact: Gun violence is now THE leading cause of death among children. More kids are killed by guns than die in car accidents.

If that's not a crisis, I'm not sure what is.

[nejm.org image 800x667]

...if your definition of "children" gets stretched to include 18 and 19 year olds to serve the narrative, I guess.

Congenital conditions are the leading cause of death in infants and still manage to exceed the number of firearm deaths for all children up to 18.

If congenital deaths shot up suddenly, I hope we'd seek to do something about it instead of pointing at another unrelated statistic.


If by "doing something" you mean getting riled up by a willfully misleading graph and virtue-signaling about it on the internet, I applaud your activism.
 
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