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(WAFF Huntsville)   If your gas station suffers glitch where gas prices revert to just 69 cents a gallon, you're gonna have a bad day   (waff.com) divider line
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2022-06-13 9:54:53 AM  
Sounds like a lot of people stuck their hose in and had a nice day.
 
2022-06-13 10:08:28 AM  
I looked at the numbers, and I seen it was 69 cents a gallon. ... I hit that button, it started pumping and the dollar sign just stayed low," Darryl Surita said.
He posted the incredible error to his Instagram page, and word got out fast, with family and friends all getting phone calls.
"It was crazy. It turned into a circus within a matter of minutes," said Eddie Surita, who filled his tank for $14.

Fark these people, they KNEW it was an error and they were stealing and they not only bragged about it then posted about it online to get others to come and screw the gas station even worse.
 
2022-06-13 10:19:24 AM  
Here's a nice demonstration of the flaw with automated pricing systems and underpaid employees.
 
2022-06-13 10:37:57 AM  
This screws the gas station owner, not Exxon.  Why the attendant didn't shut the pumps off is beyond me.
 
2022-06-13 10:46:53 AM  
Welp, someone's insurance policy is going to be theoretically paying out. I also expect the LLEO to be making a bunch of arrests for fraud/theft of gas etc.

To be frank, I can't really blame the morons; inflation is the biggest it's been in my 40 years, and I was already priced out of home ownership before the pandemic. I'm falling behind on decent wages. Most folks don't make as much as me, so they're feeling the pinch even worse. If insurance doesn't pay out, the only loser here is going to be the station, as fuel is at best a sliver of profit, and in many cases a loss-leader.

/We're all crabs in a bucket. This needs to be fixed.
 
2022-06-13 10:50:39 AM  

ajgeek: Welp, someone's insurance policy is going to be theoretically paying out. I also expect the LLEO to be making a bunch of arrests for fraud/theft of gas etc.


Nah.  The customer actions were ethically dubious, but not illegal.  It's not their fault the business handled the sale in error.  The station employees should have noticed the issue within a few customers and closed for the day if they couldn't fix it.
 
2022-06-13 10:52:56 AM  

medic2731: Not a glitch at all.  Someone entered the price wrong, and did not catch their error for quite awhile.  They can call it what it was, but certainly not a "glitch"


In NJ service station owners can only change prices once per day - imagine if some yahoo attendant farks it up...
 
2022-06-13 10:58:20 AM  

NeoCortex42: ajgeek: Welp, someone's insurance policy is going to be theoretically paying out. I also expect the LLEO to be making a bunch of arrests for fraud/theft of gas etc.

Nah.  The customer actions were ethically dubious, but not illegal.  It's not their fault the business handled the sale in error.  The station employees should have noticed the issue within a few customers and closed for the day if they couldn't fix it.


Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade
 
2022-06-13 11:02:07 AM  

Farkenhostile: I looked at the numbers, and I seen it was 69 cents a gallon. ... I hit that button, it started pumping and the dollar sign just stayed low," Darryl Surita said.
He posted the incredible error to his Instagram page, and word got out fast, with family and friends all getting phone calls.
"It was crazy. It turned into a circus within a matter of minutes," said Eddie Surita, who filled his tank for $14.

Fark these people, they KNEW it was an error and they were stealing and they not only bragged about it then posted about it online to get others to come and screw the gas station even worse.


Yes and no. You're obviously someone who has never worked at a station at all or you'd realize the basic rules of pricing.

Price going up? Change the big sign, and all other appropriate signs, first. Then you change the price on the pumps.

Price going down? Change the price on the pumps first, then change the sign(s) ASAP to the new lower price.

The only price that matters in the end is the price on the pump. That is the price fuel is being sold for, so it you're lower than the "big" sign you're ok... higher than the "big" sign you're getting fined/sued... and you can't cry that you fat fingered something. Incidentally that is likely what happened here, the manager / assistant manager fat-fingered entering the price at the pump.

This now completes your "how gas station prices work and what is theft" lesson.

ajgeek: I also expect the LLEO to be making a bunch of arrests for fraud/theft of gas etc.


No. Not unless they colluded with the manager / assistant manager to set that price and defraud the company. That's the most likely scenario for theft charges. The way pump PoS systems work, it'd be nigh impossible to set the price outside without it breaking the dispenser.
 
2022-06-13 11:08:48 AM  

Elzar: medic2731: Not a glitch at all.  Someone entered the price wrong, and did not catch their error for quite awhile.  They can call it what it was, but certainly not a "glitch"

In NJ service station owners can only change prices once per day - imagine if some yahoo attendant farks it up...


You can only change the price on the "big" sign once per day... as long as the price on the pump matches the big sign you're good, even if you have to try twice (or three times) to get it right. I had a trainee who was unfamiliar with the number pad but tried to mimick my speed. She accidentally set the price to change levels as well... in a state that only allows prices to change once per day. Then she did it again trying to correct the problem.

We just noted in the log that she fat-fingered the price twice. The bigger problem was the 30 gallons of fuel sold at the wrong price for corporate bookkeeping. Jan the Hutt was not happy, but she'd been around long enough to know people mess up. She just noted the mix-up and how it would affect daily sales.

Never piss off your bookkeeper.
 
2022-06-13 11:18:19 AM  
I get gas once a week. I know my mileage and my gauge and blah blah blah
I use around 10 gallons a week.
When l got gas yesterday, it kicked off at 10.000 gallons. 10 gallons exactly.
At first I thought something was farky and they were rationing.
Nope. I used exactly 10 gallons, tank was full.

I have a birthday this week and the dollar amount was the age I'm turning.

It was nice knowing y'all, I think I'm about to die.
 
2022-06-13 11:26:22 AM  

ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade


You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None
 
2022-06-13 11:28:47 AM  

inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None


Joe Biden: Only once the Republicans regain power and can run an investigation into why gas was $0.69 for urbanites and not toothless hillbillies in bumfarktucky
 
2022-06-13 11:42:26 AM  
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2022-06-13 11:57:20 AM  
In 1998 gas was 87 cents on base and a carton of Marlboros was $12 in the PX.
 
2022-06-13 1:08:13 PM  

inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None


Mmm, I don't think so. IANAL, but according to this source, once it was known that the gas was at $0.69 when the prevailing going rate was in excess of $5.00, it's quite reasonable that section 1.2, Intent to Deprive applies.
 
2022-06-13 1:09:49 PM  
I would have filled up and probably told some people but not post it online for the world to see.


I remember the last time prices were going up and there was a story about one station that prices went up automatically in the middle of the day while the pumps were being used and the prices changed while people were in the middle of filling up. It caused a big stink but the people got refunded the difference.
 
2022-06-13 1:18:29 PM  

ajgeek: inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None

Mmm, I don't think so. IANAL, but according to this source, once it was known that the gas was at $0.69 when the prevailing going rate was in excess of $5.00, it's quite reasonable that section 1.2, Intent to Deprive applies.


It's up to the retailer to not agree to sell it at that price. There is no way nobody in the place got wind of the price discrepancy quick enough to just close up shop much earlier.

If I go into a car dealership and somehow convince the salesman to sell me a car at half the Blue Book value, I'm not a criminal. He's just really shiatty at his job.
 
2022-06-13 1:20:24 PM  

ajgeek: inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None

Mmm, I don't think so. IANAL, but according to this source, once it was known that the gas was at $0.69 when the prevailing going rate was in excess of $5.00, it's quite reasonable that section 1.2, Intent to Deprive applies.


Did someone expect to get the gas back?
 
2022-06-13 1:27:46 PM  
Joe USer:

Yeah, that's a valid point.

I kept reading and section 3.3, Claim of Right also applies. They can simply claim that they believed they were allowed to buy it at that rate and walk. It's absolute bullshiat, but I guess that'll work.

I withdraw my LLEO statement.
 
2022-06-13 1:37:11 PM  
"I seen it was 69 cents a gallon."

Yup, that be Darryl
 
2022-06-13 1:45:43 PM  
"The mistake took gas station management three hours to fix."

I'm thinking: future Texas school police material.
 
2022-06-13 2:16:50 PM  

ajgeek: inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None

Mmm, I don't think so. IANAL, but according to this source, once it was known that the gas was at $0.69 when the prevailing going rate was in excess of $5.00, it's quite reasonable that section 1.2, Intent to Deprive applies.


You definitely aren't a lawyer and definitely never managed ANY kind of store. In most states the lower of all prices on the product is THE PRICE no matter if it hurts your profit. As long as the people here didn't muck around with the pump to artificially change the price, nor collude with any employees to manipulate the price, the sale was 100% legal.
 
2022-06-13 2:59:28 PM  

stuhayes2010: This screws the gas station owner, not Exxon.  Why the attendant didn't shut the pumps off is beyond me.


Because the attendant didn't give a f*ck. He gets his minimum wage no matter what the price per gallon is.
Also pretty sure the attendant doesn't have the ability to change the price on the pumps. That's the manager's job.
Hope  the attendant was able to fill up his car, too.
 
2022-06-13 3:04:28 PM  

Elzar: inglixthemad: ajgeek: Oh, the DA won't prosecute, but they need to get their weekly, "tough on crime" quotas in, and the common clay can't afford lawyers, so it's an easy win for their books.

/I am salted jade

You are salted foolish. The price on the pump is controlled by the POS, so unless the customers changed it WITHOUT breaking the pump (nigh impossible) they did nothing wrong. The station won't get fined for selling fuel for less than the price on the "big" sign, but they might get sued for anti-competitive behavior (selling at a loss) depending on the state. That's actually unlikely unless it can be proved they did it on purpose, and that's messy / difficult at best.

Here are the likely Civil/Criminal legal consequences for everyone involved:

Customers: None
Corporate leaders: None.
Pump / POS Manufacturer: None
Manager / Assistant Manager: None

Joe Biden: Only once the Republicans regain power and can run an investigation into why gas was $0.69 for urbanites and not toothless hillbillies in bumfarktucky


Hunter Biden is my prime suspect. Let the fact-finding begin!
 
2022-06-13 3:10:12 PM  

Flowery Twats: Also pretty sure the attendant doesn't have the ability to change the price on the pumps. That's the manager's job.
Hope  the attendant was able to fill up his car, too.


You could let the attendant do it, but that's a fast way to have the price "glitch" like this every time one of his buddies or a pretty girl comes to get gas.  Hell, while I'm sure it's a coincidence, the 69 cent pricing still leaves me a little suspicious this was a deliberate prank or "I quit" message from somebody.
 
2022-06-13 5:54:47 PM  
inglixthemad:

Yeah, I already conceded the point. Good on you for taking the time to continue to chastise me for being wrong, though.
 
2022-06-13 6:25:07 PM  
At these prices, might as well

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2022-06-13 6:44:31 PM  

Elzar: medic2731: Not a glitch at all.  Someone entered the price wrong, and did not catch their error for quite awhile.  They can call it what it was, but certainly not a "glitch"

In NJ service station owners can only change prices once per day - imagine if some yahoo attendant farks it up...


I'm pretty sure that has an "except for errors" clause. Even politicians aren't stupid enough to not exclude clear and obvious errors from being a price change.
 
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