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(ESPN)   Dodgers to pay a record luxury tax bill by having MLB's highest ever payroll, still got swept by the Pirates at home   (espn.com) divider line
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2022-06-04 1:08:22 PM  
lol f$ck the dodgers

'that ninth consecutive nl west championship was ours!  we paid for it fair and square!'
 
2022-06-04 1:35:57 PM  
Shiat happens. They're currently in process of sweeping the Mets, the only team with a higher payroll than the Dodgers.

More than 10 MLB teams have a smaller total payroll than the Dodgers currently have on IL or suspended.
 
2022-06-04 1:43:49 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Shiat happens. They're currently in process of sweeping the Mets, the only team with a higher payroll than the Dodgers.


Wait. The Headline says the Dodgers have the highest payroll in history. And you're saying the Mets payroll is higher than the Dodgers. Which is it?
 
2022-06-04 1:51:42 PM  

iamskibibitz: Jack Sabbath: Shiat happens. They're currently in process of sweeping the Mets, the only team with a higher payroll than the Dodgers.

Wait. The Headline says the Dodgers have the highest payroll in history. And you're saying the Mets payroll is higher than the Dodgers. Which is it?


Actually, they're both kind of true.  Here's the list:

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

As you'll see, the Mets do have the highest overall payroll, at $260,222,124, but only $152,143,458 of that is going to their active 26 man roster.  The Dodgers have the highest payroll for the active 26 man roster, at $195.8M.  The Mets' overall payroll is higher due to the "suspended/buried" payroll, which means payment to players who aren't on either the active roster or IR.

/happy Bobby Bonilla day!
 
2022-06-04 1:55:44 PM  

jake_lex: iamskibibitz: Jack Sabbath: Shiat happens. They're currently in process of sweeping the Mets, the only team with a higher payroll than the Dodgers.

Wait. The Headline says the Dodgers have the highest payroll in history. And you're saying the Mets payroll is higher than the Dodgers. Which is it?

Actually, they're both kind of true.  Here's the list:

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

As you'll see, the Mets do have the highest overall payroll, at $260,222,124, but only $152,143,458 of that is going to their active 26 man roster.  The Dodgers have the highest payroll for the active 26 man roster, at $195.8M.  The Mets' overall payroll is higher due to the "suspended/buried" payroll, which means payment to players who aren't on either the active roster or IR.

/happy Bobby Bonilla day!


the article is specifically about the salary that counts against the luxury tax, which is calculated on opening day and does include some "inactive" salary. The interesting wrinkle here is they are still waiting for the status of Bauer's salary, which if the suspension of his contract is upheld, will be retroactively deducted from the Dodgers' liability.
 
2022-06-04 2:05:47 PM  
I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?
 
2022-06-04 2:13:10 PM  
The good news is they don't have to worry about matching up with the Pirates in the postseason.
 
2022-06-04 2:30:19 PM  

Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?


I'll never understand those fans who make arguments like this. Leagues should punish big spenders and level the playing field. MLB is frkked and the Premiere League gets boring because it's always the big spenders year after year. It's stupid.
 
2022-06-04 2:37:12 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

I'll never understand those fans who make arguments like this. Leagues should punish big spenders and level the playing field. MLB is frkked and the Premiere League gets boring because it's always the big spenders year after year. It's stupid.


MLB has as much, if not more, parity than any other league.
 
2022-06-04 2:39:50 PM  
What would be completely hilarious is if they decided that every devision (al west, central, east, etc) was hard capped at 3x the lowest teams top in the league

I mean what the absolute fark is the league doing when the difference between the top and bottom is 160 million
 
2022-06-04 2:42:18 PM  

Concrete Donkey: What would be completely hilarious is if they decided that every devision (al west, central, east, etc) was hard capped at 3x the lowest teams top in the league

I mean what the absolute fark is the league doing when the difference between the top and bottom is 160 million


It would also be completely stupid.
The issue is at the -bottom- of the payroll scale, not the top. TFA even mentions that player salaries have been steadily going DOWN the past decade.
 
2022-06-04 2:43:09 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

I'll never understand those fans who make arguments like this. Leagues should punish big spenders and level the playing field. MLB is frkked and the Premiere League gets boring because it's always the big spenders year after year. It's stupid.


Punish them like with a luxury tax?  And that money can be divied among the low payroll teams to level the playing field?  These teams will undoubtedly use this free money to increase their payrolls in future seasons, right?  That's a great idea
 
2022-06-04 2:46:37 PM  
I cheer for most Pittsburgh teams, and this made me laugh my rear end off. Probably be th ehighlight of the season, though.
 
2022-06-04 3:11:55 PM  
Ooookay subby.  They've also got the best record in the NL.  In a 162 game season these things happen.

/Not a Dodgers fan.
 
2022-06-04 4:45:18 PM  
Rules can be broken for a price.
 
2022-06-04 4:53:23 PM  

Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?


Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Problem: it would make it harder for the Dodgers and Yankees as MLB would freak out at the prospect of, say, Rays-Padres.
 
2022-06-04 4:56:18 PM  
Technically speaking, if you don't include deadweight (*cough* Bauer *cough*), they would be below the Mets.  Still have the issue of playing good against good teams and playing bad against bad teams and unknowns.

/yes, I'm a Dodgers fan
//yes, it's a family thing that started during long ago
///and no, it's not because my family lived close.  The alternative local team was the Cubs when they almost prided themselves as perennial losers
 
2022-06-04 4:56:45 PM  

Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Problem: it would make it harder for the Dodgers and Yankees as MLB would freak out at the prospect of, say, Rays-Padres.


The luxury tax is already a soft cap and the competitive imbalances are nowhere near as pronounced as people try to make it out to be. There's greater parity in MLB than in the NBA and NFL which have stricter caps.
 
2022-06-04 5:23:42 PM  

The Bestest: Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Problem: it would make it harder for the Dodgers and Yankees as MLB would freak out at the prospect of, say, Rays-Padres.

The luxury tax is already a soft cap and the competitive imbalances are nowhere near as pronounced as people try to make it out to be. There's greater parity in MLB than in the NBA and NFL which have stricter caps.


Yeah, about it not being nowhere near as pronounced...

The luxury tax is a joke, but even with the suggestion of cap/floor it doesn't solve baseball's real issue of declining popularity. Games are long, attendance is declining World Series ratings are consistently dropping, there are more entertainment options now than in generations past, kids aren't playing baseball as much as said previous generations and the current average age of the most-locked-in baseball fans are pushing 60.

What's baseball to do? I don't know if they can do anything, really. It's fun to see a game in person but it's not great on TV compared to other sports. They could start maybe by marketing their stars much better, I suppose.
 
2022-06-04 6:15:20 PM  

Wadded Beef: The Bestest: Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Problem: it would make it harder for the Dodgers and Yankees as MLB would freak out at the prospect of, say, Rays-Padres.

The luxury tax is already a soft cap and the competitive imbalances are nowhere near as pronounced as people try to make it out to be. There's greater parity in MLB than in the NBA and NFL which have stricter caps.

Yeah, about it not being nowhere near as pronounced...

The luxury tax is a joke, but even with the suggestion of cap/floor it doesn't solve baseball's real issue of declining popularity. Games are long, attendance is declining World Series ratings are consistently dropping, there are more entertainment options now than in generations past, kids aren't playing baseball as much as said previous generations and the current average age of the most-locked-in baseball fans are pushing 60.

What's baseball to do? I don't know if they can do anything, really. It's fun to see a game in person but it's not great on TV compared to other sports. They could start maybe by marketing their stars much better, I suppose.


Idk Bananaball rules are fun as hell.

I don't even really care for all the extra dancing and promos and whatnot - the rules changes alone are way the hell better.

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Walks turn into "the ball is live when all nine fielders have touched it" so the batter can book it to get to second and there's often a play at the base.

Batters being able to steal first is "why should pitchers not get punished for throwing wild pitches when there's no one on?" Now runners can take off on any count toward first.

Two hour time limit is a delight.

The showdown tiebreaker I didn't get to see, but basically it takes the game back to its real roots. You get a pitcher, batter, and catcher, and the batter has to get a hit and make it around the bases in less time than it takes the pitcher to run down the ball and get it home. One at-bat, whoever gets home first wins.
 
2022-06-04 7:13:24 PM  
I think the luxury tax of $47 million exceeds the payroll of some teams.
 
2022-06-04 7:17:07 PM  

IAmRight: Wadded Beef: The Bestest: Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Problem: it would make it harder for the Dodgers and Yankees as MLB would freak out at the prospect of, say, Rays-Padres.

The luxury tax is already a soft cap and the competitive imbalances are nowhere near as pronounced as people try to make it out to be. There's greater parity in MLB than in the NBA and NFL which have stricter caps.

Yeah, about it not being nowhere near as pronounced...

The luxury tax is a joke, but even with the suggestion of cap/floor it doesn't solve baseball's real issue of declining popularity. Games are long, attendance is declining World Series ratings are consistently dropping, there are more entertainment options now than in generations past, kids aren't playing baseball as much as said previous generations and the current average age of the most-locked-in baseball fans are pushing 60.

What's baseball to do? I don't know if they can do anything, really. It's fun to see a game in person but it's not great on TV compared to other sports. They could start maybe by marketing their stars much better, I suppose.

Idk Bananaball rules are fun as hell.

I don't even really care for all the extra dancing and promos and whatnot - the rules changes alone are way the hell better.

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Walks turn into "the ball is live when all nine fielders have touched it" so the batter can book it to get to second and there's often a play at the base.

Batters being able to steal first is "why should pitchers not get punished for throwing w ...


I just googled Bananaball. That looks like a great time!
 
2022-06-04 7:24:43 PM  

Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.


Again, I point out that all a salary floor does is make teams like the Pirates (just as an example) just about as good/bad just for more money. The Pirates aren't the only team that would have to add to payroll to get to the floor. It's a competitive placebo
 
2022-06-04 7:34:04 PM  

TDWCom29: Wadded Beef: Maybe you should drive: I'll never understand those fans who complain about teams with high payrolls.  "They're trying to buy a championship!"

Yeah, so?  Would it be better if they didn't even try and just stayed on the receiving end of those sweet luxury tax dollars, like so many other teams?

Salary cap/floor would solve the MLB's glaring imbalances and we'd no longer see small-market teams collecting checks for being cannon fodder for the higher payroll teams.

Again, I point out that all a salary floor does is make teams like the Pirates (just as an example) just about as good/bad just for more money. The Pirates aren't the only team that would have to add to payroll to get to the floor. It's a competitive placebo


And I also point out that one of the reasons the Pirates were bad for 20 straight years is they would spend their money on Derek Bell, Reggie Sanders, Raul Mondesi, and so on instead of focusing on truly rebuilding. Trying to get over .500 as the endgame
 
2022-06-05 12:29:53 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: lol f$ck the dodgers

'that ninth consecutive nl west championship was ours!  we paid for it fair and square!'


Ahh, there you are. Your hatred of the Dodgers is outstanding. I feel the same way about the Giants.

Go Dodgers.
 
2022-06-05 12:31:31 PM  

IAmRight: The good news is they don't have to worry about matching up with the Pirates in the postseason.


I can't believe they got swept at home against the Pirates. That was bonkers.
 
2022-06-05 12:36:31 PM  

Forty-Three: Ooookay subby.  They've also got the best record in the NL.  In a 162 game season these things happen.

/Not a Dodgers fan.


We need a team up here in Alaska.  The Alaskan Moose? The Mosquitoes?  The Anchorage Salmon? The Fairbanks Tweekers? The Northern Lights?

Snow baseball would be so entertaining.
 
2022-06-05 5:33:43 PM  

Badafuco: Thank You Black Jesus!: lol f$ck the dodgers

'that ninth consecutive nl west championship was ours!  we paid for it fair and square!'

Ahh, there you are. Your hatred of the Dodgers is outstanding. I feel the same way about the Giants.

Go Dodgers.


all in good fun, brother.  take care.
 
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