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(USA Today)   Marlins P Edward Cabrera made MLB history by throwing a 96 mph changeup. At 96 MPH, what the hell is supposed to change?   (ftw.usatoday.com) divider line
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2022-06-04 2:41:00 AM  
I mean, looks like a Mariano Rivera cut fastball. And relative to one of his heaters it looks as much like he took a tiny bit off. Does slightly adjusting your speed count as a change-up when you're still throwing fastballs (possibly with a change grip)?

There have been many styles of fastball over the years, and speeds can vary several MPH between styles, even with the same pitcher.
 
2022-06-04 3:02:50 AM  
It's sexual orientation? It IS Pride month!
 
2022-06-04 6:28:08 AM  
That's a really fast ball.
 
2022-06-04 8:23:28 AM  
Hunter Greene on the Reds was throwing 102 fast and mid 90s changes, against my beloved Red Sox the other day.  By the third time through the order his velocity dropped to a shabby 98 mph, and we knocked him out of the game.

Fairly amazing you're losing it at 98.
 
2022-06-04 8:31:38 AM  
That moves like a sinker, not a change. Change is straight down, this is down and towards the pitching hand side, exactly like a sinker
 
2022-06-04 9:09:34 AM  
I want to see a 96mph eephus.
 
2022-06-04 9:10:59 AM  

Concrete Donkey: That moves like a sinker, not a change. Change is straight down, this is down and towards the pitching hand side, exactly like a sinker


I wonder how is he getting that much rotation at that speed.
 
2022-06-04 9:31:19 AM  

eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: That moves like a sinker, not a change. Change is straight down, this is down and towards the pitching hand side, exactly like a sinker

I wonder how is he getting that much rotation at that speed.


Thats not even the scariest one to try and hit

The Hardest Sinker In MLB History
Youtube zLv7FGHd1Kc
 
2022-06-04 9:35:59 AM  

eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.


As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.
 
2022-06-04 9:45:42 AM  

Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.


we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate
 
2022-06-04 9:47:09 AM  

Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.


Be like catching a pop up, while a batter swings the bat near your head...

What could go wrong?
 
2022-06-04 9:51:49 AM  

Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate


And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry
 
2022-06-04 9:59:12 AM  

eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate

And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry


Well fark, it doesn't sound like a 96mph eephus is possible.

Terminal velocity of a baseball is 95mph.
 
2022-06-04 9:59:41 AM  

eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: That moves like a sinker, not a change. Change is straight down, this is down and towards the pitching hand side, exactly like a sinker

I wonder how is he getting that much rotation at that speed.


He's probably doctoring the ball with a combination of catfish stinkbait, athlete's foot ointment, and battery acid.
 
2022-06-04 10:00:17 AM  

eclecticman666: eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate

And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry

Well fark, it doesn't sound like a 96mph eephus is possible.

Terminal velocity of a baseball is 95mph.


Maybe if there is still forward momentum?
 
2022-06-04 10:10:18 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

Be like catching a pop up, while a batter swings the bat near your head...

What could go wrong?


I believe a user name checks out would work here, amirite?

/got a swinging bat to the back of the catcher's helmet before
//stayed in and continued to play
///hurt just as bad as a foul ball bounced up off the plate into the balls (even with a protective cup)
 
2022-06-04 10:13:35 AM  

eclecticman666: eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate

And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry

Well fark, it doesn't sound like a 96mph eephus is possible.

Terminal velocity of a baseball is 95mph.


96 on the way up, quite a bit less on the way down.  Fans are catching high pop ups in bare hands all the time with just a bit of sting.
 
2022-06-04 10:20:11 AM  
How soon does baseball move to the metric system to really pump up pitcher speeds?
 
2022-06-04 11:51:04 AM  

eclecticman666: eclecticman666: eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate

And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry

Well fark, it doesn't sound like a 96mph eephus is possible.

Terminal velocity of a baseball is 95mph.

Maybe if there is still forward momentum?


There wouldn't be any if its going to be an eephus at 96mph unless the pitcher is really far away.
 
2022-06-04 11:58:25 AM  
If 96 mph isn't a "fastball", they should change the name.  Call them "straightballs".
 
2022-06-04 12:02:36 PM  
I'll be that guy...

If your fastball is 99 mph and your changeup is 96, that's not enough difference. The idea of a changeup is to get a hitter off-stride and way out in front of it, hitting off his front foot. At 3 mph, the difference is hitting a liner to left-center instead of right-center.
 
2022-06-04 12:08:43 PM  

eclecticman666: eclecticman666: Concrete Donkey: Brosephus: eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.

As a former catcher, this sentence is downright scary to think about. That said, I'd love to see that myself.

we need a physics person to tell us what the required throwing angle would need to be for that to be a strike. My first guess is like 86 degrees to have it drop down right over the plate

And how high would you have to throw it?

175 feet?

/have no farking Idea, was just trying to ballpark it

//Sorry
///Not sorry

Well fark, it doesn't sound like a 96mph eephus is possible.

Terminal velocity of a baseball is 95mph.


Not in Denver it isn't.
 
2022-06-04 12:14:02 PM  

ChrisDe: I'll be that guy...

If your fastball is 99 mph and your changeup is 96, that's not enough difference. The idea of a changeup is to get a hitter off-stride and way out in front of it, hitting off his front foot. At 3 mph, the difference is hitting a liner to left-center instead of right-center.


This, if your fastball is at 99+ you want your changeup to be (at least) 15-20 mph slower unless the movement on the changeup is such that, even at the speed of your average fastball, it has wildly differing movement.
 
2022-06-04 2:25:18 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Hunter Greene on the Reds was throwing 102 fast and mid 90s changes, against my beloved Red Sox the other day.  By the third time through the order his velocity dropped to a shabby 98 mph, and we knocked him out of the game.

Fairly amazing you're losing it at 98.


if you can't change speeds, location, and the angle the ball is coming in speed is always beatable.
 
2022-06-04 3:53:43 PM  
96-mph knuckler sounds neat.

But you might need the strongest hands in the world
 
2022-06-04 4:00:20 PM  
Call it whatever name you want, that pitch is freaking filthy.
 
2022-06-04 5:06:21 PM  
I was a pitcher for 15 years. I have no shoulder or elbow anymore, but when I could throw a ball, I could get a 10mph difference just by changing which seams I gripped. My actual changetip was about 5mph lower than my slowest fastball.
 
2022-06-04 6:30:41 PM  
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1533186273682276354

twitter dude tracks all kinds of wicked pitches. this one is WOOP
 
2022-06-04 7:02:58 PM  

gameshowhost: https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1533186273682276354

twitter dude tracks all kinds of wicked pitches. this one is WOOP


Damn, that's a check his fingers for sticky stuff curve.
 
2022-06-04 8:06:13 PM  

Rwa2play: ChrisDe: I'll be that guy...

If your fastball is 99 mph and your changeup is 96, that's not enough difference. The idea of a changeup is to get a hitter off-stride and way out in front of it, hitting off his front foot. At 3 mph, the difference is hitting a liner to left-center instead of right-center.

This, if your fastball is at 99+ you want your changeup to be (at least) 15-20 mph slower unless the movement on the changeup is such that, even at the speed of your average fastball, it has wildly differing movement.


I mean, watch it full screen, it drops like 6" at the end of the pitch and scoots left 4-6. Nassssty.
 
2022-06-04 9:11:33 PM  

gameshowhost: https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1533186273682276354

twitter dude tracks all kinds of wicked pitches. this one is WOOP


Was that a Wiffle ball?
 
2022-06-04 9:30:46 PM  

ChrisDe: gameshowhost: https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1533186273682276354

twitter dude tracks all kinds of wicked pitches. this one is WOOP

Was that a Wiffle ball?


https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1533193398894616576

He was ON that day.
 
2022-06-05 1:42:55 PM  

eclecticman666: I want to see a 96mph eephus.


Came for the 96 mph eephus, leaving with a bruised face from the broadcast booth...
 
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