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(USA Today)   On second thought, let's not give the Uvalde police chief a public swearing-in for the city council seat he was elected to in early May   (usatoday.com) divider line
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2022-05-31 8:34:09 AM  
Surely this won't draw more attention to a very bad PR move.
 
2022-05-31 8:36:18 AM  
Arredondo was elected to the City Council on May 7 and was slated to take the oath of office during a special called City Council meeting on Tuesday, according to a meeting agenda posted online. Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said Monday that will not happen.
"Our focus on Tuesday is on our families who lost loved ones," McLaughlin said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. "We begin burying our children tomorrow, the innocent victims of last week's murders at Robb Elementary School."


elected not promoted

oh and Mayor McLaughlin? You're a sick SOB to politicize this matter. And you'll swear him in next week when the cameras aren't there
 
2022-05-31 8:39:01 AM  
"Pete Arredondo was duly elected to the City Council," McLaughlin said, "There is nothing in the City Charter, Election Code, or Texas Constitution that prohibits him from taking the oath of office. To our knowledge, we are currently not aware of any investigation of Mr. Arredondo."

Good judgement? Honor? Any semblance of personal integrity?

Nope, nothing there either.

Jesus Christ... You had a Congresswoman resign because her ex leaked pictures of her three-way sexual relationship and this guy still wants to take office? Not fair to her, but she did the right thing.

Man, f*ck you.
 
2022-05-31 9:22:59 AM  
Well, at least he won't be a cop then ...
 
2022-05-31 9:23:46 AM  

GRCooper: Well, at least he won't be a cop then ...


How's that?
 
2022-05-31 9:24:26 AM  

GRCooper: Well, at least he won't be a cop then ...


LOL!
 
2022-05-31 9:25:12 AM  
i wonder how many seconds will elapse between swearing in and impeachment/removal
 
2022-05-31 9:25:27 AM  
I don't know how it works in Texas, but council members get paid next to nothing here. Pretty much a volunteer position. Why the hell would he want to fill on a very visible board position with all the shiat swirling around him? He won't be able to fart without it being headline news over there. If it were me I'd crawl into a bottle and not come out for a very long time.
 
2022-05-31 9:26:28 AM  
btw, mayor should be gone too as well as district superintendent and school principal. If there was actual justice they'd be arrested, tried as accomplices, jailed, then brutally murdered in said jail.
 
2022-05-31 9:26:40 AM  

Subtonic: I don't know how it works in Texas, but council members get paid next to nothing here. Pretty much a volunteer position. Why the hell would he want to fill on a very visible board position with all the shiat swirling around him? He won't be able to fart without it being headline news over there. If it were me I'd crawl into a bottle and not come out for a very long time.


Stepping stone to higher office... or to finally become Mayor of Pawnee.
 
2022-05-31 9:28:58 AM  
I don't understand why he keeps being referred to as "School District Police Chief" is the a city of valse police chief also or are they just referring to the city as the "School District"
 
2022-05-31 9:29:54 AM  
He may be too chickenshiat to show up anyway, considering recent actions.
 
2022-05-31 9:30:07 AM  

PressTowChainJoeYo: I don't understand why he keeps being referred to as "School District Police Chief" is the a city of valse police chief also or are they just referring to the city as the "School District"


Is there a City of Uvalde police chief also? That is supposed to say
 
2022-05-31 9:32:33 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: He may be too chickenshiat to show up anyway, considering recent actions.


If everyone is unarmed, he'll show up.
 
2022-05-31 9:32:46 AM  

whyRpeoplesostupid: Arredondo was elected to the City Council on May 7 and was slated to take the oath of office during a special called City Council meeting on Tuesday, according to a meeting agenda posted online. Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said Monday that will not happen.
"Our focus on Tuesday is on our families who lost loved ones," McLaughlin said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. "We begin burying our children tomorrow, the innocent victims of last week's murders at Robb Elementary School."

elected not promoted

oh and Mayor McLaughlin? You're a sick SOB to politicize this matter. And you'll swear him in next week when the cameras aren't there


McLaughlin, mayor of a town that's 3/4th Hispanic, has been on white supremacist Tucker Carlson's show several times to complain about immigrants
 
2022-05-31 9:34:47 AM  
He was elected, swear him in. Don't fark up further by shiatting on democracy, too.
 
2022-05-31 9:38:02 AM  

edmo: He was elected, swear him in. Don't fark up further by shiatting on democracy, too.


It's not that he won't be sworn in, it's that they're skipping the special meeting that was called just to swear him in.

It'll just be an agenda item at the next scheduled meeting instead of a big meet and greet photo op.
 
2022-05-31 9:38:12 AM  

PressTowChainJoeYo: I don't understand why he keeps being referred to as "School District Police Chief" is the a city of valse police chief also or are they just referring to the city as the "School District"


School districts often have their own police. Usually pretty small, handle petty discipline matters so the town PD doesn't have to. He is the chief of the school district police. For reasons still unclear to me he was declared in charge on the scene, even for state DPS officers that arrived.
 
2022-05-31 9:38:31 AM  

PressTowChainJoeYo: I don't understand why he keeps being referred to as "School District Police Chief" is the a city of valse police chief also or are they just referring to the city as the "School District"


The Uvalde school district has a police department.

https://www.ucisd.net/Page/2120

This is separate and distinct from the town government's police department

https://www.uvaldetx.gov/government/city_departments/uvalde_police_department.php
 
2022-05-31 9:40:22 AM  

PressTowChainJoeYo: I don't understand why he keeps being referred to as "School District Police Chief" is the a city of valse police chief also or are they just referring to the city as the "School District"


The school has it own police force of 5 officers and 1 guard separate from city police, and separate from the city SWAT.

In this city, there would be 2-3 chiefs.
 
2022-05-31 9:41:35 AM  

EvilEgg: Surely this won't draw more attention to a very bad PR move.


They're doing it because of the (very well deserved) death threats.

Also brought in outside PD to provide 24/7 security at his house - which is another really good look
 
2022-05-31 9:42:39 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: whyRpeoplesostupid: Arredondo was elected to the City Council on May 7 and was slated to take the oath of office during a special called City Council meeting on Tuesday, according to a meeting agenda posted online. Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said Monday that will not happen.
"Our focus on Tuesday is on our families who lost loved ones," McLaughlin said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. "We begin burying our children tomorrow, the innocent victims of last week's murders at Robb Elementary School."

elected not promoted

oh and Mayor McLaughlin? You're a sick SOB to politicize this matter. And you'll swear him in next week when the cameras aren't there

McLaughlin, mayor of a town that's 3/4th Hispanic, has been on white supremacist Tucker Carlson's show several times to complain about immigrants


The mayor drummed up fear about ILLEGALS! and SEX TRAFFICKING! to get himself elected. It's likely one of the reasons the police dept budget was so large and why a town of 16K had a swat team.

Fark lot of good either of those things did for stopping kids getting murdered though.
 
2022-05-31 9:46:04 AM  
To our knowledge, we are currently not aware of any investigation of Mr. Arredondo.

which seems to be somewhat of a failing on the city's part, doesn't it?
 
2022-05-31 9:46:31 AM  
Thanks for clearing that up. It really brings up more questions about the poor response if the schools have their own PD.
 
2022-05-31 9:47:45 AM  
Uvalde school district police chief, who led shooting response, won't be sworn into City Council seat as planned

Did he win the election based on his bold promise to "Wait and see, and let's not do anything too dangerous or anything"?
 
2022-05-31 9:54:49 AM  

PressTowChainJoeYo: Thanks for clearing that up. It really brings up more questions about the poor response if the schools have their own PD.


It's why any lawsuits, charges against cops, etc can actually stick in this case.

At school the kids are in loco parentis, and having that school PD (should) establishes the "special relationship"  that requires the police to act.
 
2022-05-31 9:56:22 AM  
No, very public.
But make him stand around looking scared and helpless for a good hour or so before anyone comes to do anything for him at the event.
 
2022-05-31 9:57:39 AM  
Why don't they just stand him in the meeting room and let all of the school parents walk up and punch him in the face?
 
2022-05-31 9:59:20 AM  
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Well the private ceremony was held right after the younglings were killed.
 
2022-05-31 10:12:14 AM  
Fire Him! (Into the sun)
 
2022-05-31 10:13:30 AM  
Oh no. The public wants to swear him in. They want a lot of swearing.
 
2022-05-31 10:21:40 AM  

Thingster: edmo: He was elected, swear him in. Don't fark up further by shiatting on democracy, too.

It's not that he won't be sworn in, it's that they're skipping the special meeting that was called just to swear him in.

It'll just be an agenda item at the next scheduled meeting instead of a big meet and greet photo op.


When he is on the Council, you can bet that many many people would show up to participate in the discourse of ANYTHING the Council is trying to decide on. For safety reasons they would likely need some extra money for security measures. Not to say what kind of wording might happen on open feedback time, if they give citizens a chance to speak, they will also give them ability to record everything or have reporters there. If they only do closed door meetings, then they will catch heat for not being transparent. So a lose lose either way...
 
2022-05-31 10:23:17 AM  

GRCooper: Well, at least he won't be a cop then ...


Some city councils are part time jobs.

So he might still be able to do both, although I suspect that there would be a conflict of interest being on the council while also an employee.

And our town has a weird clause in the charter that I suspect would actually allow them to deny swearing the guy (although they'd probably have to sustain a lawsuit over it):

Section 82-7. (Board to be the Judge of Qualifications of it [its] Members).
The Board shall be the judge of the election and qualification of its members.


I've been trying to get the town lawyer to explain what this means (there was a bit of a pissing contest a few months ago, as I was a Supervisor of Elections, we had triggered a special election, and the president moved the election without consulting with us, and they claimed there was nothing that said the election supervisors set the date for the election, and I said there was not only nothing that said we certify candidates either, and in fact, seemed to suggest that the Board of Commissioners did)

/earned $600/year while I was town commissioner
//changed the pay to $1800/yr after declaring I wasn't running for re-election
///and raised the town President from $4200/yr to $15k
 
2022-05-31 10:26:05 AM  

oopsboom: To our knowledge, we are currently not aware of any investigation of Mr. Arredondo.

which seems to be somewhat of a failing on the city's part, doesn't it?


We are a society that depending on the agenda and narrative can take a year or more to charge someone with murder even if the murder confesses and shows themselves on a video doing the murder, and leave their finger prints everywhere and provides all the DNA.

Unless they decide they need a scapegoat but quick to take the heat off the themselves. That will happen the moment the town calls for the head of the mayor.
 
2022-05-31 10:29:32 AM  
Even though he is a coward, they should still swear him in, then vote to throw him out of office
 
2022-05-31 10:32:10 AM  

Hallows_Eve: Thingster: edmo: He was elected, swear him in. Don't fark up further by shiatting on democracy, too.

It's not that he won't be sworn in, it's that they're skipping the special meeting that was called just to swear him in.

It'll just be an agenda item at the next scheduled meeting instead of a big meet and greet photo op.

When he is on the Council, you can bet that many many people would show up to participate in the discourse of ANYTHING the Council is trying to decide on. For safety reasons they would likely need some extra money for security measures. Not to say what kind of wording might happen on open feedback time, if they give citizens a chance to speak, they will also give them ability to record everything or have reporters there. If they only do closed door meetings, then they will catch heat for not being transparent. So a lose lose either way...


I don't know about their state, but lots of stuff can be undone via lawsuits if Maryland if you violate the Maryland Open Meetings Act.

(Basically saying 'that meeting couldn't be used to pass legislation or do whatever you did, because it wasn't advertised correctly, or wasn't one of the few things that was allowed to be done in a closed meeting)

/has been a public official
//has successfully sued the county for passing zoning ordinances wrong
///has been accused by the town president of holding an illegal meeting as an election supervisor because the clerk didn't post the agenda as required (which I don't have the power to do)
 
2022-05-31 10:33:32 AM  
Uvalde, a county of only 26,000 people, is where dreams go to die.
 
2022-05-31 10:46:40 AM  

chasd00: btw, mayor should be gone too as well as district superintendent and school principal. If there was actual justice they'd be arrested, tried as accomplices, jailed, then brutally murdered in said jail.


Why the district superintendent and principal? What did they do wrong?
 
2022-05-31 10:56:53 AM  
I'm not sure about the rules here. But it is a bad idea that a police chief is in the city council. It is a bit of a conflict of interest. Maybe it is allowed because the school district is legally separate from the city?
 
2022-05-31 11:04:58 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: I'm not sure about the rules here. But it is a bad idea that a police chief is in the city council. It is a bit of a conflict of interest. Maybe it is allowed because the school district is legally separate from the city?


for the city tax payers sure but it makes it much easier for him to get his bloated budget passed and head off those annoying oversight issues that spring up from time-to-time.
 
2022-05-31 11:10:42 AM  

whyRpeoplesostupid: Arredondo was elected to the City Council on May 7 and was slated to take the oath of office during a special called City Council meeting on Tuesday, according to a meeting agenda posted online. Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said Monday that will not happen.
"Our focus on Tuesday is on our families who lost loved ones," McLaughlin said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. "We begin burying our children tomorrow, the innocent victims of last week's murders at Robb Elementary School."

elected not promoted

oh and Mayor McLaughlin? You're a sick SOB to politicize this matter. And you'll swear him in next week when the cameras aren't there


The mayor is utter trash.
 
2022-05-31 11:15:28 AM  
Republicans will promote these two to the State Legislature in no time.  You'd think allowing a maniac to slaughter children with an assault rifle would kill their political careers, but the honest truth of it is that as long as they blame anyone but the GOP they'll be rewarded.

And they've been told that by those that can make it happen.
 
2022-05-31 11:20:26 AM  

fiddlehead: TheDirtyNacho: whyRpeoplesostupid: Arredondo was elected to the City Council on May 7 and was slated to take the oath of office during a special called City Council meeting on Tuesday, according to a meeting agenda posted online. Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said Monday that will not happen.
"Our focus on Tuesday is on our families who lost loved ones," McLaughlin said in a statement provided to USA TODAY. "We begin burying our children tomorrow, the innocent victims of last week's murders at Robb Elementary School."

elected not promoted

oh and Mayor McLaughlin? You're a sick SOB to politicize this matter. And you'll swear him in next week when the cameras aren't there

McLaughlin, mayor of a town that's 3/4th Hispanic, has been on white supremacist Tucker Carlson's show several times to complain about immigrants

The mayor drummed up fear about ILLEGALS! and SEX TRAFFICKING! to get himself elected. It's likely one of the reasons the police dept budget was so large and why a town of 16K had a swat team.

Fark lot of good either of those things did for stopping kids getting murdered though.


What's weirdest to me is that border patrol was involved. 

Why on earth was BP there and why on earth did it take their action to stop this nonsense?
 
2022-05-31 11:37:20 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Republicans will promote these two to the State Legislature in no time.  You'd think allowing a maniac to slaughter children with an assault rifle would kill their political careers, but the honest truth of it is that as long as they blame anyone but the GOP they'll be rewarded.

And they've been told that by those that can make it happen.



I married into a conservative household and we had an interesting discussion about all this over the weekend... 

Basically, the consensus is that criminals gonna criminal so no point trying. 

Also, with regard to gun laws, one had a brilliant idea of letting each state set its own gun regulation to figure out what laws work best and then apply them to the other states. I pointed out that's not only what we have in place right now, but that they're arguing in favor of federal gun laws to apply to the whole nation. I also pointed out that there's no way to actually prove any state's laws are more effective than another's given people can, will, and do hop state lines to obtain guns they shouldn't have and bring them back and cause issues and the only way to really enforce and ensure each state manages their stuff properly would be to set up state border checks for such things, which would be a whole other thing. 

They also argued in favor of universal mental healthcare, which was funny, given they're not a fan of universal healthcare. Plus there's deeper implications and effects they aren't realizing will come with such a thing given mental healthcare has become increasingly progressive over the recent years and promotes things they fundamentally disagree with. 

It's a surreal experience to have a discussion where you have to point out to someone they're arguing for things they say they're against. It's also simultaneously amusing and sad to watch the gears grind to a halt when they realize they're doing it.
 
2022-05-31 12:06:48 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: What's weirdest to me is that border patrol was involved. 

Why on earth was BP there and why on earth did it take their action to stop this nonsense?


As I understand it but it was within a lot of other information that was either true or misleading, was that many of the parents in the school worked for the Border Patrol...
 
2022-05-31 12:25:45 PM  
Instead of being sworn in, he'll be sworn at.
 
2022-05-31 12:53:42 PM  

NewportBarGuy: "Pete Arredondo was duly elected to the City Council," McLaughlin said, "There is nothing in the City Charter, Election Code, or Texas Constitution that prohibits him from taking the oath of office. To our knowledge, we are currently not aware of any investigation of Mr. Arredondo."

Good judgement? Honor? Any semblance of personal integrity?

Nope, nothing there either.

Jesus Christ... You had a Congresswoman resign because her ex leaked pictures of her three-way sexual relationship and this guy still wants to take office? Not fair to her, but she did the right thing.

Man, f*ck you.


Somehow, I did not get THOSE pictures e-mailed to me, so who am I to judge?
 
2022-05-31 12:55:10 PM  

runwiz: Instead of being sworn in, he'll be sworn at.


He's eaten his last free enchilada in THAT town.
 
2022-05-31 1:01:32 PM  

spottymax: The Irresponsible Captain: He may be too chickenshiat to show up anyway, considering recent actions.

If everyone is unarmed, he'll show up.


Do torches and pitchforks count?
 
2022-05-31 1:09:02 PM  
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