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2022-05-28 6:24:41 PM  
That means they're going to.
 
2022-05-28 9:22:30 PM  
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Dude. What's up with the New Jack forehead?

"Russia's ambassador to the U.K. and former Extreme Championship Wrestling superstar Andrei Kelin"
 
2022-05-28 9:37:15 PM  
We want to absorb this country into our own so let's irradiate it.
 
2022-05-28 10:07:28 PM  
It's been written on the wall since Ukraine stopped the Russian advance and started taking back territory. I personally don't think Russia's use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine is going to lead to judgement day, but I think that will be the end of Putin's government. I think the fracturing that follows will be far more dangerous in the long run, though.

These violent delights have violent ends.
 
2022-05-28 10:34:31 PM  
C'mon.  A little one.  Just the tip.
 
2022-05-29 12:02:05 AM  
Go for it. Turn your last allies against you while simultaneously declaring to the world you're weak enough to need to use them. Ukraine sure as hell won't surrender at that point, either.  You could nuke literally the entire country into oblivion, march troops all over the irradiated hellscape, and even then Ukraine will have won, while Russia will have lost far more than even the worst-case scenarios bittering the back of their tongues would even allow them to entertain now. Push the farking button already. The world is waiting for your downfall.
 
2022-05-29 12:06:22 AM  
Time to buy some iodine & a radiation suit.
 
2022-05-29 12:07:14 AM  
Policy wise, the threat of nuclear weapons is starting to become worse than the actual use of them.  Just sayin....
 
2022-05-29 12:08:44 AM  
You can't nuke a city you want to take. That's typically a "screw you, I don't want to exist anymore" weapon.
 
2022-05-29 12:10:53 AM  
Yes, do that idiots. And every population center in Russia is a glass parking lot, and not one farking person in the world will shed a tear when the last of the Rus die in a flash of light.
 
2022-05-29 12:14:48 AM  
He who denies it supplied it.
 
2022-05-29 12:15:11 AM  

Sgygus: C'mon.  A little one.  Just the tip.


Not falling for that one again.
 
2022-05-29 12:18:36 AM  
Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.
 
2022-05-29 12:20:02 AM  
The GOP is into it. Fat Man/Little Boy sounds like a real fun Friday night to them.
 
2022-05-29 12:21:19 AM  

Mugato: We want to absorb this country into our own so let's irradiate it.


I get the feeling that they'd rather irradiate Ukraine than be perceived as weak.

/ It's too late for the second part though
 
2022-05-29 12:23:56 AM  
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мои божьи коровки
 
2022-05-29 12:24:01 AM  
 
2022-05-29 12:26:51 AM  

Znuh: That means they're going to.


Pooty might give the order, but I still choose to believe that there are enough sane people in his inner circle who would finally put a bullet in him.

He's shown their military to be a joke, he's lost oil & gas customers for good, he's put Russia in the position of having to rely on China, India, and a few smaller countries to keep the economy alive, and until he's gone, the economy will continue to sink.

Kill him, and blame it on an embolism from long COVID. The next boss will have to recover the money he stole, along with most of the money of the oligarchs. Establish a strong UBI so that they get out of the habit of stealing everything that isn't nailed down to sell on the black market. A high UBI would undermine the "boyar" class system, which drove so much of the black market. Have a dozen show trials and executions to get the point across the they can't go back to business as usual.
 
2022-05-29 12:27:23 AM  
You can only use a bomb once.
 
2022-05-29 12:28:48 AM  

Valter: Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.


Don't feel bad. I live within 3 miles of the air force material command hq, the air force institute of technology, and hangar 18.
 
2022-05-29 12:29:14 AM  
Has he furrowed the word "HELP" into his forehead?
 
2022-05-29 12:32:03 AM  
We believe that they will. We are ready to respond when they do. They know they will not survive. The ball is in their court and fate in their hands.

We hope the Russians love their children too...from what we are seeing not so much though.
 
2022-05-29 12:33:31 AM  

indy_kid: Znuh: That means they're going to.

Pooty might give the order, but I still choose to believe that there are enough sane people in his inner circle who would finally put a bullet in him.

He's shown their military to be a joke, he's lost oil & gas customers for good, he's put Russia in the position of having to rely on China, India, and a few smaller countries to keep the economy alive, and until he's gone, the economy will continue to sink.

Kill him, and blame it on an embolism from long COVID. The next boss will have to recover the money he stole, along with most of the money of the oligarchs. Establish a strong UBI so that they get out of the habit of stealing everything that isn't nailed down to sell on the black market. A high UBI would undermine the "boyar" class system, which drove so much of the black market. Have a dozen show trials and executions to get the point across the they can't go back to business as usual.


I don't see this happening, but it should. A great idea.
 
2022-05-29 12:33:56 AM  

minivanracer: Valter: Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.

Don't feel bad. I live within 3 miles of the air force material command hq, the air force institute of technology, and hangar 18.


Head for Yellow Springs. It's an alien colony, and when shiat gets real, they'll put up the deflector shield. They've used it to deflect tornadoes to Xenia.
 
2022-05-29 12:34:06 AM  
Well, on the plus side, I'm in a spot in the US that is supposed to get nuked.

Sucks for the rest of you, I guess.  I'd suggest the best way to grill rat right now.  Maybe stock up on some MSG or something.
 
2022-05-29 12:35:55 AM  
No. It means they're going home to lick their wounds -they're big kids, now. The USA lost Viet Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and is about to fark up in Somalia for a second time. Russia gets an L, but they get to very seriously negotiate with the EU as they're running out of crude oil and nat gas storage.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is doing the George Washington trick of trading space for time, escaping intact to regroup and re-order, while the French Fleet.... I mean NATO 155 artillery and British HARPOON missiles... arrive. Meanwhile offroad electric bikes and ATGM/Charlie Gutsache units zip soundlessly thru the countryside...
 
2022-05-29 12:36:24 AM  

minivanracer: Valter: Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.

Don't feel bad. I live within 3 miles of the air force material command hq, the air force institute of technology, and hangar 18.


Wright-Pat?
 
2022-05-29 12:41:55 AM  

tekmo: Has he furrowed the word "HELP" into his forehead?


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/The power of christ compels you!
 
2022-05-29 12:52:42 AM  
So, did Russia say they wont use "non-tactical" nukes?


/tsar bomba unavailable for comment?
 
2022-05-29 12:57:19 AM  

To Wish Impossible Things: Well, on the plus side, I'm in a spot in the US that is supposed to get nuked.

Sucks for the rest of you, I guess.  I'd suggest the best way to grill rat right now.  Maybe stock up on some MSG or something.


You're going to be sorely disappointed when it turns out that Vasily replaced your nuke with a pirated copy of Armageddon.
 
2022-05-29 1:06:06 AM  

wildcardjack: You can't nuke a city you want to take. That's typically a "screw you, I don't want to exist anymore" weapon.


He doesn't want the cities or the population.

He wants the fossil fuel resources and maybe the wheat.

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This ladder was created under the presumption that nuclear powers would need nuclear weapons to respond to nuclear attack on their own territory.

Which isn't the case here.

The global economy can deal with anything up to the low-30s between NATO and neo-USSR.

Ukraine can probably survive up to somewhere in the high-20s. (lacking nukes, they can't retaliate in kind.)

Conventional weapons have advanced over the past half-century or thereabouts -- to the point that NATO can use conventional objectives to achieve the otjectives in the mid-30s.

Putin's problem is that the neo-USSR's economy, already under severe strain (because this song is totally about 1987 and not 2022, and you gotta hand it to the Latvian hardbass and slavtube portion of the internets for giving their target audience sufficient plausible deniability to tell the authorities that it was just hardbass in English and totally apolitical and making fun of the bad old days)...

Contraband - uamee vs Boris (slav hardbass music video)
Youtube Z7AZikYuRyc


...but I digress. Point here is that Putin's economy is completely and utterly boned the instant he climbs onto rung 21.

So puck Futin, and fark his nukes.
 
2022-05-29 1:09:09 AM  

Twilight Farkle: -- to the point that NATO can use conventional objectives to achieve the otjectives


Beer-and-hardbass-inspired typo.

Can use conventional weapons to achieve the objectives [objectives that would, decades ago, have required unconventional weapons to achieve] in the higher rungs.
 
2022-05-29 1:13:01 AM  

neongoats: Yes, do that idiots. And every population center in Russia is a glass parking lot, and not one farking person in the world will shed a tear when the last of the Rus die in a flash of light.


While I fully and erectly support this, it appears the world is gonna go on the side of "let russia destroy ukraine".  Sure we are sending arms, but that doesnt seem to be ending the attack.  Just making the campaign longer.

Aint nobody gonna stop putin.  Elites dont want the plebes to know that an elite can be eliminated.
 
2022-05-29 1:18:45 AM  
Russia is planning to use nuclear weapons is what I have read here.
 
2022-05-29 1:25:25 AM  

Valter: minivanracer: Valter: Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.

Don't feel bad. I live within 3 miles of the air force material command hq, the air force institute of technology, and hangar 18.

Wright-Pat?


Is there *another* AFIT?
 
2022-05-29 1:25:31 AM  
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2022-05-29 1:45:38 AM  

To Wish Impossible Things: Well, on the plus side, I'm in a spot in the US that is supposed to get nuked.

Sucks for the rest of you, I guess.  I'd suggest the best way to grill rat right now.  Maybe stock up on some MSG or something.


Ketchup
 
2022-05-29 2:24:19 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: neongoats: Yes, do that idiots. And every population center in Russia is a glass parking lot, and not one farking person in the world will shed a tear when the last of the Rus die in a flash of light.

While I fully and erectly support this, it appears the world is gonna go on the side of "let russia destroy ukraine".  Sure we are sending arms, but that doesnt seem to be ending the attack.  Just making the campaign longer.

Aint nobody gonna stop putin.  Elites dont want the plebes to know that an elite can be eliminated.


Russia's resources are finite and less than the West's. If the West keeps supplying Ukraine with arms and the Ukrainians are willing to keep fighting, eventually Russia will run out of either men or stuff to shoot with.
 
2022-05-29 2:27:30 AM  
"he does not believe his country will use tactical nuclear weapons in the war against Ukraine."

OK Bunky, tell me the difference between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons.
 
2022-05-29 2:40:02 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Time to buy some iodine & a radiation suit.


KI pills might do stuff but a rad suit isn't going to help much. Most of the radiation will die down pretty quickly, but what you're most at risk from is the fallout that you breathe in during the first few days.
 
2022-05-29 3:08:00 AM  

Mugato: We want to absorb this country into our own so let's irradiate it.


I mean, I do the same thing with microwaved snacks.
 
2022-05-29 3:14:25 AM  
Ah yes, let's also make sure the fallout will reach all the way to Moskow...
 
2022-05-29 3:28:58 AM  

Epicedion: To Wish Impossible Things: Well, on the plus side, I'm in a spot in the US that is supposed to get nuked.

Sucks for the rest of you, I guess.  I'd suggest the best way to grill rat right now.  Maybe stock up on some MSG or something.

You're going to be sorely disappointed when it turns out that Vasily replaced your nuke with a pirated copy of Armageddon.


Damnit, the Russians can't even do a nuclear war right.
 
2022-05-29 4:25:16 AM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: Sgygus: C'mon.  A little one.  Just the tip.

Not falling for that one again.


Wife-like typing detected
 
2022-05-29 4:28:40 AM  

minivanracer: Valter: Sigh. I live near DC so I guess I'm farked.

Don't feel bad. I live within 3 miles of the air force material command hq, the air force institute of technology, and hangar 18.


I live near USSTRATCOM - I'm dead af
 
2022-05-29 6:34:47 AM  

Mugato: We want to absorb this country into our own so let's irradiate it.


Well considering they did a good portion it in 1986....
 
2022-05-29 8:16:14 AM  
"Don't believe anything until the Kremlin denies it"

Fixed that for Subby.
 
2022-05-29 8:30:47 AM  

mrwhippy: Mugato: We want to absorb this country into our own so let's irradiate it.

Well considering they did a good portion it in 1986....


Well I don't think that was intentional.
 
DVD
2022-05-29 9:45:00 AM  

mistahtom: Policy wise, the threat of nuclear weapons is starting to become worse than the actual use of them.  Just sayin....


________________________________

At least until the mushroom cloud appears.
 
2022-05-29 10:02:32 AM  
Cops flat out saying they are judge Dredd.  Nice.  Love how most shooters don't think they're gonna get out alive. So this is brilliant. How about prevent it you farking morons instead of killing them when nobody else is left alive
 
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