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2022-05-28 2:54:23 PM  
Other people that could be doing garage sales can be really taken advantage of and during these times


I'm on it!  Got my movie-prop cash on order.
 
2022-05-28 3:02:22 PM  
Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.
 
2022-05-28 6:50:15 PM  
I can make a perfect fake five dollar bill, totally indistinguishable from the real thing. I'm selling them for six dollars.
 
2022-05-28 7:25:23 PM  
I filled up my tank at the garage sale the other day.
 
2022-05-28 7:29:52 PM  

Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.


It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.
 
2022-05-28 7:34:07 PM  

iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.


Yeah. I'm aware that tv money isn't real. It actually literally says it on the notes. You can buy them on Amazon.

But if you're trying to counterfeit. $100s get a lot of attention. Those have to be perfect.

But a $5. Nobody will look at a 5. And they also won't look at a 10 or 20
 
2022-05-28 7:41:11 PM  
I noticed the Circle K stopped using the pen on twenties.  I guess it's because they're overworked and understaffed.

If I could commit such a crime without sweating profusely and then laughing hysterically right after, I'd do it when the line is six deep and the person at the counter is yelling that her EBT (food stamps) card allows her to purchase beer.  "It says so on the chip!"
 
2022-05-28 7:44:50 PM  
The payoff for a garage sale is getting shiat out of your house without it going to a landfill. Any actual money received is a bonus. Less unsold stuff to put away at the end of the day is double bonus.

If someone gave me movie money at a garage sale, the laugh I'd have would be worth more than the money.

/unless I didn't notice it was fake, tried to use it, and some pig put his knee on my neck until I was dead
//then I'd rather have the real cash
 
2022-05-28 7:45:07 PM  
That's what got George Floyd killed
 
2022-05-28 7:48:04 PM  
Always look at each bill before completing the transaction.

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2022-05-28 7:52:22 PM  

Gubbo: iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.

Yeah. I'm aware that tv money isn't real. It actually literally says it on the notes. You can buy them on Amazon.

But if you're trying to counterfeit. $100s get a lot of attention. Those have to be perfect.

But a $5. Nobody will look at a 5. And they also won't look at a 10 or 20


That's why, at least the US, they use the special paper for the real deal. A real bill will always feel different because of the special paper and the special printing method.

I imagine that you are absolutely correct as to the denominations being faked.

/ Fun Fact: a lot of in the United States, won't take anything higher than a $20.
 
2022-05-28 7:55:29 PM  
Its Detroit man.
 
2022-05-28 8:01:37 PM  

IgG4: That's what got George Floyd killed


That was never actually proven.
After the cops took him into custody and tortured him to death, everything else was forgotten.
 
2022-05-28 8:02:39 PM  
Good. Most GS stuff is horder crap and should just be set on fire along with all that other trash.
 
2022-05-28 8:06:40 PM  

waxbeans: Good. Most GS stuff is horder crap and should just be set on fire along with all that other trash.


You sound bitter. They wouldn't take your $5  movie prop bill?
 
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2022-05-28 8:07:20 PM  

mikaloyd: Its Detroit man.


Royal oak, upper-middle class for the most part, but just a couple miles north of Detroit proper

/Doesn't change anything, just being pedantic
 
2022-05-28 8:13:45 PM  

iheartscotch: Gubbo: iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.

Yeah. I'm aware that tv money isn't real. It actually literally says it on the notes. You can buy them on Amazon.

But if you're trying to counterfeit. $100s get a lot of attention. Those have to be perfect.

But a $5. Nobody will look at a 5. And they also won't look at a 10 or 20

That's why, at least the US, they use the special paper for the real deal. A real bill will always feel different because of the special paper and the special printing method.

I imagine that you are absolutely correct as to the denominations being faked.

/ Fun Fact: a lot of in the United States, won't take anything higher than a $20.


The feel of the paper is actually the easiest thing to fake.

The raised ink, microprinting, security strips, watermarks, color change for higher denominations. Those are the security features that are difficult
 
2022-05-28 8:21:08 PM  

cautionflag: waxbeans: Good. Most GS stuff is horder crap and should just be set on fire along with all that other trash.

You sound bitter. They wouldn't take your $5  movie prop bill?


Not at all. GSs annoy me. As do pawnshops and Ebay.
Table flip.
 
2022-05-28 8:35:07 PM  

iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.


It's easier to tell than that. Prop money has to be <= 3/4 or >= 1.5 times the size of real money.
 
2022-05-28 8:42:13 PM  
Is the headline a joke I don't get?
 
2022-05-28 8:44:01 PM  
There's a fine line between legal tender and chicken tender, and that's how you walk that tightrope.
 
2022-05-28 8:44:04 PM  

iheartscotch: That's why, at least the US, they use the special paper for the real deal.


It's cotton paper. Currency testing pens work because they mark the starches (IIRC) in regular paper, but not in cotton paper. The UV note testers work in a similar way, regular paper fluoresces but cotton paper does not.

/Honourable mention to the tune Rock 'n' Roll by Mos Def which explicitly links slavery to this fact with the line "tenders to your cotton money".
 
2022-05-28 8:45:48 PM  

waxbeans: Good. Most GS stuff is horder crap and should just be set on fire along with all that other trash.


Well, now we know who lost money on Antique Road Show.
 
2022-05-28 8:50:07 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: waxbeans: Good. Most GS stuff is horder crap and should just be set on fire along with all that other trash.

Well, now we know who lost money on Antique Road Show.


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2022-05-28 8:56:34 PM  
$5? I earn more than than that with 3 street Johns.
 
2022-05-28 9:05:05 PM  

Sleeper_agent: iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.

It's easier to tell than that. Prop money has to be <= 3/4 or >= 1.5 times the size of real money.


Well, that certainly makes my life easier. Now I dont have to have my cashier watch out for those 100s marked "motion picture use only" on the top. You've saved me lots of time, and time is also money. I dont know if time is the same sized money... but those 100s sure are.
 
2022-05-28 9:08:24 PM  

Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.


While this one is prop money, I wouldn't be surprised if people were printing more authentic fakes. I have a counterfeit pound coin that I found in my coin box after reading an article online about how to spot them. More expensive materials for a less valuable piece of currency. I imagine the point is to make them in large quantities and count on people not scrutinising smaller denominations closely.
 
2022-05-28 9:11:38 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

While this one is prop money, I wouldn't be surprised if people were printing more authentic fakes. I have a counterfeit pound coin that I found in my coin box after reading an article online about how to spot them. More expensive materials for a less valuable piece of currency. I imagine the point is to make them in large quantities and count on people not scrutinising smaller denominations closely.


Yeah but I think if you can make a good $5, people will pay equally as little attention to a good $20.

4x the return for the same risk.

/100s presumably require a step up in skill level
 
2022-05-28 9:23:43 PM  
I think out of all the bills still in circulation you can still find a good amount of $5s that are the old ones without a security strip woven in (well besides 1s but that's almost as useful as forging a cent) which would make them pretty easy to copy. I think you can even buy similar linen paper. Fortunately there are a few things like the magnetic "ink" (it's actually a kind of plastic) that one is unlikely to figure out. Micro printing doesn't seem to be that hard for a modern printer either.

/What were we talking about?
//Hold on someone is at the door
///Your with the secret service you say....
 
2022-05-28 9:42:04 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: I noticed the Circle K stopped using the pen on twenties.  I guess it's because they're overworked and understaffed.

If I could commit such a crime without sweating profusely and then laughing hysterically right after, I'd do it when the line is six deep and the person at the counter is yelling that her EBT (food stamps) card allows her to purchase beer.  "It says so on the chip!"


I saw online where someone used a fake detector pen on dollar bill.

It was a Silver Certificate, in pretty good shape wear-wise.  Some collector might have paid more than $100 for it.

If it wasn't for the stupid pen mark.
 
2022-05-28 9:44:31 PM  
I also wondered before why someone wouldn't take a smaller bill with a security strip and somehow "bleach" it, turns out part of the design process for currency is to make sure the ink is resistant to things like bleach to ensure longevity of the note since (one of the reasons it's made on linen paper too) money is often accidentally washed. I've read that about the only thing able to dissolve the ink is freaking boiling acetone. Even if you don't blow yourself up, probably not worth the prison time 😂
 
2022-05-28 9:48:53 PM  
Vlad_the_Inaner:

I can't imagine what is dumber (not knowing the story) someone trying to validate a collectors item by ruining it, or someone spending a silver certificate and a cashier making sure it was real!
I have 4 of them, only $1 ones and not in great shape but they are neat to have.
 
2022-05-28 9:51:06 PM  

darinwil: Vlad_the_Inaner:

I can't imagine what is dumber (not knowing the story) someone trying to validate a collectors item by ruining it, or someone spending a silver certificate and a cashier making sure it was real!
I have 4 of them, only $1 ones and not in great shape but they are neat to have.


Wouldn't genuine ones also be printed on cotton paper, therefore left unmarked by forgery detector pens?
 
2022-05-28 9:53:55 PM  

IgG4: That's what got George Floyd killed


A cops knee killed Floyd
 
2022-05-28 9:55:17 PM  
I think it depends on the pen, there are some that leave a light brown mark on the cotton paper. A quick search says some also do the opposite and don't leave a mark so I assume in this case it was one that left the brown mark
 
2022-05-28 10:00:17 PM  
I sometimes try to pay with Sacagawea dollar coins. The look on the clerks' faces is priceless. The look on the cops' faces can be rather expensive.
 
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2022-05-28 10:07:54 PM  

Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.


They are on Amazon- "movie prop" money. Look in the picture.
 
2022-05-28 10:09:35 PM  

Sleeper_agent: iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.

It's easier to tell than that. Prop money has to be <= 3/4 or >= 1.5 times the size of real money.


Only if it is a direct copy. If it's marked as a prop it can be dead on, as these are.
 
2022-05-28 10:10:43 PM  

darinwil: I also wondered before why someone wouldn't take a smaller bill with a security strip and somehow "bleach" it, turns out part of the design process for currency is to make sure the ink is resistant to things like bleach to ensure longevity of the note since (one of the reasons it's made on linen paper too) money is often accidentally washed. I've read that about the only thing able to dissolve the ink is freaking boiling acetone. Even if you don't blow yourself up, probably not worth the prison time 😂


So Reacher wasn't real?
 
2022-05-28 10:12:08 PM  

ComaToast: I sometimes try to pay with Sacagawea dollar coins. The look on the clerks' faces is priceless. The look on the cops' faces can be rather expensive.


I have once seen a $2 bill.
 
2022-05-28 10:20:30 PM  
knbwhite:

Oh Reacher was real, Kliner was fake like his operation! Jk, never saw it but sounds like a good TV plot
 
2022-05-28 10:31:02 PM  

Gubbo: ComaToast: I sometimes try to pay with Sacagawea dollar coins. The look on the clerks' faces is priceless. The look on the cops' faces can be rather expensive.

I have once seen a $2 bill.


It's a hard life working in the trenches at Taco Bell.
 
2022-05-28 10:34:41 PM  

darinwil: knbwhite:

Oh Reacher was real, Kliner was fake like his operation! Jk, never saw it but sounds like a good TV plot


It was ok, but you have to take how Reacher is almost autistic-like in his personality and mannerisms with a grain of salt.
 
2022-05-28 10:34:44 PM  

iron de havilland: Gubbo: ComaToast: I sometimes try to pay with Sacagawea dollar coins. The look on the clerks' faces is priceless. The look on the cops' faces can be rather expensive.

I have once seen a $2 bill.

It's a hard life working in the trenches at Taco Bell.


Amusingly it was in a casino food court
 
2022-05-28 10:36:31 PM  

Sword and Shield: Sleeper_agent: iheartscotch: Gubbo: Who makes a fake $5. The return on that has to be tiny for the risk involved.

It's movie (and TV) prop money. All those stacks of 100's you see in the movies? Props.

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a prop and real deal. They use a different kind of paper and the real deal is printed using the intaglio (they squish the paper between 2 printing plates) method.

It's easier to tell than that. Prop money has to be <= 3/4 or >= 1.5 times the size of real money.

Only if it is a direct copy. If it's marked as a prop it can be dead on, as these are.


I missed that piece of info on the treasury site.
 
2022-05-28 11:27:29 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: I noticed the Circle K stopped using the pen on twenties.  I guess it's because they're overworked and understaffed.

If I could commit such a crime without sweating profusely and then laughing hysterically right after, I'd do it when the line is six deep and the person at the counter is yelling that her EBT (food stamps) card allows her to purchase beer.  "It says so on the chip!"


We had some 100's get passed here.  The counterfeiters were taking legit 10's and I guess bleaching and dyeing the note. Then they were using a printer to make them look like 100's.
The pen would do its job but the store was getting scammed.

Anyway, I was paying for some stuff and the clerk ran the pen across the 20 I gave her.  I explained the pen wasn't without its flaws then showed her the new features they put in the bills.
She didn't know(I kid you not) about the strip.
 
2022-05-29 12:07:16 AM  
I'd wager most don't look at anything other than the corners. I know if I wasn't interested in the art on money I probably wouldn't notice things like the direction the portrait of a dead guy faces, and just look at the denomination in the corner.
I remember going to Italy back in highschool and the Lira notes seemed like Monopoly money, I just assumed that the number in the corner was what it said it was.
 
2022-05-29 12:44:19 AM  
If you use a phony five to buy something for a dollar at a yard sale, you get four real dollars back in change. That's money in the bank. Well worth the risk.
 
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