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2022-05-28 10:41:09 AM  
No, unacceptable. Under no possible situation is this acceptable. There's wrong and there's wrong and then there's this.
 
2022-05-28 10:41:23 AM  
Anything is an "acceptable price" for conservatives in the United States, because one of the pillars of American conservatism is never, ever, ever admitting that you're wrong.
 
2022-05-28 10:42:02 AM  
The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of children and teachers
 
2022-05-28 10:42:29 AM  
Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.
 
2022-05-28 10:43:40 AM  
After scrolling through 5 or so articles/threads this morning I just have one thing to say,....I really dislike this timeline.
 
2022-05-28 10:43:51 AM  
I believe they call this being pro life
 
2022-05-28 10:44:22 AM  
What the fark do conservatives know about civic duty? Their emperor is a draft dodger, they won't wear masks or get vaccinated to protect their fellow citizens, they don't vote in good faith, to that effect they lie and cheat as much as possible to stay in power.

Just the worst.
 
2022-05-28 10:44:45 AM  
As long as it's not their children they don't care.
 
2022-05-28 10:45:12 AM  
Conservatives lauded and then normalized Kyle Rittenhouse. What more needs to be said?
 
2022-05-28 10:45:56 AM  
It's not just an "acceptable price."

This has been repeated over and over: the same shooter, the same sacrificial instrument, the same murders, and afterward the same verbal formulas and symbolic displays of grief, the same renewed resolve afterward not to give an inch on guns (and buy more while we're at it).

It's ritual. It's an overtly religious ritual.
 
2022-05-28 10:46:43 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.


Exactly. GOP watched and did nothing in response to the deaths of almost 2 dozens WHITE kids (under age 10) at Sandy Hook. In fact, they went the opposite direction, more guns and less restrictions.

Nothing changed then and nothing will change now.
 
2022-05-28 10:46:51 AM  
They can't let the Satanist baby-eating pedo strawmen "win".  Every con man is the same - once they admit being wrong about one thing, then the façade comes crashing down.
 
2022-05-28 10:47:23 AM  
We are endowed by the Constitution with the inalienable right to bear arms, as a safeguard against liberal tyranny.

True story, just the other day I had to empty a couple magazines of 5.56x45 to fend off 30-50 feral BernieBros trying to give me free health care and take away my student loan debt.
 
DVD
2022-05-28 10:47:42 AM  
Legally muzzle Faux News.  That will help stem the spread of misinformation everywhere.
 
2022-05-28 10:51:05 AM  
I'm kinda glad I don't have much time left on this planet TBH.  The degree of disappointment I feel from what we were told the future would be like is staggering.  We are entering a new dark age, and it's all because we couldn't enforce the laws that should have kept us making progress, because of corruption and greed.  So sad but that's the human condition, I guess.
 
2022-05-28 10:51:09 AM  

Rucker10: What the fark do conservatives know about civic duty? Their emperor is a draft dodger, they won't wear masks or get vaccinated to protect their fellow citizens, they don't vote in good faith, to that effect they lie and cheat as much as possible to stay in power.

Just the worst.


Well, they fly flags and really reallysupport the troops. What more civic duty do they need to do?
 
2022-05-28 10:51:54 AM  

Valter: No, unacceptable. Under no possible situation is this acceptable. There's wrong and there's wrong and then there's this.


A person who says public shootings are a necessary price for the right to buy firearms is more right (in an accurate and honest sense) then a person that thinks the right to purchase firearms does not make society more dangerous.

I mean they are wrong ethically/morally/philosophically in my opinion but at least the accept that their position is killing thousands of people and certainly does not make society safer.
 
2022-05-28 10:52:49 AM  

DVD: Legally muzzle Faux News.  That will help stem the spread of misinformation everywhere.


Will nobody rid us of this turbulent media conglomerate?

What miserable drones and traitors have we nurtured and promoted in our household who let their nation be treated with such shameful contempt by a TV show!
 
2022-05-28 10:53:16 AM  
American conservatism is, at its core, pure cowardice. Conservatives venerate guns because they know that in a fight, either physical or verbal, they would most likely lose and guns give them a ranged and lethal advantage.
 
2022-05-28 10:55:00 AM  
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2022-05-28 10:55:26 AM  

Parthenogenetic: We are endowed by the Constitution with the inalienable right to bear arms, as a safeguard against liberal tyranny.

True story, just the other day I had to empty a couple magazines of 5.56x45 to fend off 30-50 feral BernieBros trying to give me free health care and take away my student loan debt.


Daaaamn.Well played.
 
2022-05-28 10:55:26 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.


Pieces already settling in to place to do nothing.

See ya at the next one.
 
2022-05-28 10:55:47 AM  
This isn't a new revelation or particular insightful, since conservative have been TELLING US this for many years now. They've made no secret of it. They're quite open about it.
 
2022-05-28 10:55:57 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: As long as it's not their children they don't care.


Even if it were their children, some of them wouldn't care.
 
2022-05-28 10:58:39 AM  
It takes a derpy motherfarker to elevate Fox News to sainthood, even metaphorically.
 
2022-05-28 11:00:27 AM  

HerptheDerp: Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.

Pieces already settling in to place to do nothing.

See ya at the next one.


If we do something, after the next election they may do something back!
 
2022-05-28 11:02:02 AM  
"Liberal tyranny"? Liberalism was a response to tyranny.

/why do I bother trying
 
2022-05-28 11:02:35 AM  
I'm waiting for the first utterance of gee if only those kids had guns. The GOO already said teachers should be armed. Can you imagine, I still can't. In order to go to school in America children "need" bullet resistant everything and an armed response team on campus, locked doors, closed campus, armed teachers and metal detectors all so gun enthusiasts won't be subjected to background checks and wait times to buy a weapon. All the school shootings were committed with legally purchased weapons and the GOP response is? Guns laws don't work. Children will continue to die. Especially the poors.  GOPers will be standing in the hallway until the shooter is out of ammo. The entire frikin swat team did and you can bet not one of them disagrees with Trump or Fox News. And it appears people are going to vote overwhelmingly Republican. Here's hoping the polls are wrong and sanity returns. I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
2022-05-28 11:02:44 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.


Consider this: When was the last time any of us talking about or even remembered the Law Vegas shooting of 2017?

60 people gunned down, over 400 wounded by gunfire.

Yet I barely ever see it come up in conversation. Sixty people slaughtered a mere five years ago, rivers of blood, and it's just a blip on our radar.

(And the year before, of course, 49 killed in Orlando, though that one is still on our radar.)

I've given up talking to most gun nuts, too, because these incidents only serve to make them even more irrational. Instead of empathy or concern, they turtle up, get defensive, and double down. Every mass murder only solidifies their belief that they must have guns at all costs.

We're living in the last days of a recognizable United States.
 
2022-05-28 11:03:28 AM  

cryptozoophiliac: "Liberal tyranny"? Liberalism was a response to tyranny.

/why do I bother trying


"It's not tyranny when WE do it!" -GQP
 
2022-05-28 11:06:27 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: American conservatism is, at its core, pure cowardice. Conservatives venerate guns because they know that in a fight, either physical or verbal, they would most likely lose and guns give them a ranged and lethal advantage.


To build on this, all their 'views' can be traced to a fear of appearing weak (major insecurity issues).

Diplomacy? Nah - weak. Shoot 'em instead.
Gun Control? No can do - looks weak.
Support anything environmental/climate positive? Nope. Looks weak.
Police reform? Hell no - looks weak.
Prison reform? Absolutely not. Looks weak. Punish them, execute them and then punish them, some more for good measure.
Vote for someone educated and uses multisyllabic words? Hell no. Weak ass pansy shiat.

They're so fragile and insecure - just terrified of looking weak (as defined by their in-group).
 
2022-05-28 11:07:38 AM  
I've posted this in a couple of other threads, but sadly, it is relevant for this thread too.

In short, those children...  Their blood is on your hands if you don't plan to reconsider the legislation that allowed it to happen at all.
 
2022-05-28 11:07:42 AM  

Hellkite85: Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.

Exactly. GOP watched and did nothing in response to the deaths of almost 2 dozens WHITE kids (under age 10) at Sandy Hook. In fact, they went the opposite direction, more guns and less restrictions.

Nothing changed then and nothing will change now.


Past right wingers may have been hypocritical racists in their policies, but at least understood the ramifications of their own BS coming back to bite them in the ass.

Right wingers today will gladly engage in self stigginit in order to prove a point - because acknowledging that a liberal was right about something is more painful to them than a barrage of bullets in their body.
 
2022-05-28 11:15:10 AM  
A fearful flock is a controlled flock.

/ If you don't like it
// wear kevlar
 
2022-05-28 11:15:53 AM  
A blood tax  


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2022-05-28 11:16:18 AM  
I've argued before on Fark that only those who realize guns cause more deaths in society can truly be called pro-gun rights.

People who are against gun controls because guns make everyone safer are not pro-gun rights, they are just idiots.
 
2022-05-28 11:17:45 AM  
On  the right I see much victim blaming.

Its the school's damn fault for not being more impregnable.

If you are walking down the street and are robbed its your fault for not being strong enough to protect yourself.
If you have a gun then you will be strong enough to drive off your attacker.
(and you should really be rich enough to own a car so you don't have to walk)
 
2022-05-28 11:19:53 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: As long as it's not their children they don't care.


Heh. They don't even care about their children. It's all cannon fodder to them.

I have seen no evidence they care about their own. When push comes to shove it's under the bus for anyone. Look how many family members turned in their relatives over J6.
 
2022-05-28 11:22:49 AM  
Anyone who doesn't understand "where this aversion to the basic rules of a civilized society is coming from" hasn't fully reckoned with the fact that American Liberty™ was invented to apply to white ppl alone, not equally to all persons. This rejection of masks, of limits on personal firepower, on tolerance for others' sexuality, & of women's right to bodily autonomy is the convulsion of white men & their wives against the restraint that true equal protection under the law imposes on them after centuries of perpetrating enslavement, murder & rape on anyone who isn't white & Christian. Their reactions to these "basic rules" appear irrational because their goals are irrational. No one should be able to operate with impunity in a civilized society, yet that's exactly how white ppl have operated for centuries, & they can see an end to that on a no longer so distant horizon.
 
2022-05-28 11:25:34 AM  

PirateKing: DVD: Legally muzzle Faux News.  That will help stem the spread of misinformation everywhere.

Will nobody rid us of this turbulent media conglomerate?

What miserable drones and traitors have we nurtured and promoted in our household who let their nation be treated with such shameful contempt by a TV show!


Worst yet, the "pro-american" network is owned by an australian, that fled the country, worried he'd be charged as a traitor to America.  Sabotaging a country's political process, for profit. Sure will be a shame when Rupert Murdoch finally dies...hopefully, soon and painfully.
 
2022-05-28 11:25:58 AM  
This is wrong. They don't view mass shootings as an acceptable byproduct of their ideology.

They view mass shootings as literally the point of their ideology.

The violence is an intentional and coordinated strategy of political repression, on par with lynchings in the antebellum South.
 
2022-05-28 11:26:03 AM  

shoegaze99: Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

I have mostly given up on any gun discussions after Sandy Hook.

This country, man.

Consider this: When was the last time any of us talking about or even remembered the Law Vegas shooting of 2017?

60 people gunned down, over 400 wounded by gunfire.

Yet I barely ever see it come up in conversation. Sixty people slaughtered a mere five years ago, rivers of blood, and it's just a blip on our radar.

(And the year before, of course, 49 killed in Orlando, though that one is still on our radar.)

I've given up talking to most gun nuts, too, because these incidents only serve to make them even more irrational. Instead of empathy or concern, they turtle up, get defensive, and double down. Every mass murder only solidifies their belief that they must have guns at all costs.

We're living in the last days of a recognizable United States.


It's worse than you think. A significant part of the American public think that mass shootings like the one in Las Vegas or Sandy Hook were a sinister conspiracy. They either think that the shooter was brainwashed into doing it by the dark forces of the government, or that the entire thing is a complete hoax put on by crisis actors. And you can bet that these people vote Republican.
 
2022-05-28 11:34:15 AM  

Valter: No, unacceptable. Under no possible situation is this acceptable. There's wrong and there's wrong and then there's this.


I'm sorry, what is unacceptable? Is it the conduct of the GOP or Krugman articulating that conduct? The last time I checked, an op ed being mean to a political party and it's members hasn't killed one single US citizen. Hurts your feelings but screw you. Mass shootings kill people all the time and the cost of the additional security alone makes this a financial disaster. And let's not forget the human cost on the survivors.

No, this is all, apparently, perfectly acceptable.  It's also not soon enough to talk about this. We should ALWAYS be having a discussion about guns until they stop being the leading cause of death in children.
 
2022-05-28 11:34:19 AM  
Wonder how man of these gun nuts would feel the same if it was their child blown apart by an AR-15. Would also love to see what they would say if you could magically bring their child back to life, but on the condition they give up all their guns and can never own another. Would they sacrifice their own child's life for having guns?

Given 18 innocent children lost their lives and their response is "meh" or "they died for us to have the freedom to own guns", i highly doubt many would choise their own child's life over the guns.

Me i don't own guns, don't have kids or know any victims, but I'd make every gun disappear if it brought back even one of those poor kids as if it never happened. All the guns in the world are worth less than the life of a single child.
 
2022-05-28 11:34:37 AM  

iToad: shoegaze99: Soup4Bonnie: Been obvious for a while.

We're living in the last days of a recognizable United States.

It's worse than you think. A significant part of the American public think that mass shootings like the one in Las Vegas or Sandy Hook were a sinister conspiracy. They either think that the shooter was brainwashed into doing it by the dark forces of the government, or that the entire thing is a complete hoax put on by crisis actors. And you can bet that these people vote Republican.


Oh, I'm a longtime lurker on conspiracy forums (or was; for my own mental health, I finally had to bail). That stuff used to be fringe, but it's more widely believed than ever. I've no words for it.

Sandy Hook was kind of a turning point for those beliefs, in my experience. The slaughter was so shocking and so beyond anything we've experienced before, it's like it broke their brains. I worked for a guy who was openly spouting those conspiracy theories in the office. (I left the job shortly thereafter.)

For a lot of these people, EVERY shooting is fake in some way.

It's a willful retreat from reality.
 
2022-05-28 11:35:58 AM  

New Rising Sun: Anything is an "acceptable price" for conservatives in the United States, because one of the pillars of American conservatism is never, ever, ever admitting that you're wrong.


How could they possibly be wrong since they are guided by GOD and the Dems are just souless pedophiles possessed by demons???
 
2022-05-28 11:36:34 AM  

Cokezeroinacan: Prank Call of Cthulhu: As long as it's not their children they don't care.

Even if it were their children, some of them wouldn't care.


They absolutely wouldn't care, they would instead be angry at the libs for not making things safer for their dead children by trying to limit firearms.

Death cults gonna death cult.
 
2022-05-28 11:40:23 AM  

Cokezeroinacan: Prank Call of Cthulhu: As long as it's not their children they don't care.

Even if it were their children, some of them wouldn't care.


I knew someone who had a gun and their teenaged girl killed herself with it. Still a gun nut. Blames the kid.

It's just unfathomable.
 
2022-05-28 11:40:47 AM  

Cokezeroinacan: Prank Call of Cthulhu: As long as it's not their children they don't care.

Even if it were their children, some of them wouldn't care.


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2022-05-28 11:41:19 AM  

New Rising Sun: Anything is an "acceptable price" for conservatives in the United States, because one of the pillars of American conservatism is never, ever, ever admitting that you're wrong.


Because when you have demonized all others, and you are doing things for magical hocus pocus that you believe will give you eternal blow jobs, well then... the end justifies the means.
 
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