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2022-05-27 2:53:35 PM  
Won't make any difference, at least to the GQP gun-protectors. They'll just claim it's the kids' lib parents "making the issue political", or somesuch idiocy.

The only difference it could help make is motivating people to vote out the jackasses and vote in people who will actually try to do something.

I ain't holding my breath.
 
2022-05-27 3:32:24 PM  
And there are school administrators with no optic vision who will suspend and expel kids over this, to the point of tracking down social media posts and having them deleted and replaced with positive posts.

And they will double, triple, and quadruple down.
 
2022-05-27 3:39:06 PM  
Agreed that this isn't going to do much. Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.
 
2022-05-27 3:39:30 PM  
On the last day of the school year? I guess it's a statement of sorts ...
 
2022-05-27 3:41:29 PM  

sniderman: On the last day of the school year? I guess it's a statement of sorts ...


Well the latest shooting just happened..
 
2022-05-27 3:42:24 PM  
Sadly, I feel like this is something Republicans would want, as it will only hurt the education system to do this.

kmgenesis23: Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.


This is a better idea.
 
2022-05-27 3:42:42 PM  
I'm not sure protesting in states like RI is going to accomplish much, but I understand.
 
2022-05-27 3:42:57 PM  

fatassbastard: Won't make any difference


That's the spirit!
 
2022-05-27 3:43:06 PM  
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2022-05-27 3:43:21 PM  
It's a nice idea, but this country is farked.
 
2022-05-27 3:43:26 PM  

kmgenesis23: Agreed that this isn't going to do much. Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.


Those are heavily enforced gun-free zones for some reason.
 
2022-05-27 3:43:38 PM  

sniderman: On the last day of the school year? I guess it's a statement of sorts ...


Maybe the next shooter will schedule their massacre for better effect.
Wtf dude? Really?!
 
2022-05-27 3:44:53 PM  
Bad news for students. The party that's far less motivated to do anything about guns than the other party is also super motivated to ensure none of you get an education. Cutting class is a-okay with them.
 
2022-05-27 3:45:22 PM  
One of the survivors smeared the blood of her dying classmates on herself as camouflage...and if THAT story isn't moving the dial on gun control, then nothing will.
Nothing is going to change, because our government is no longer functional.
 
2022-05-27 3:45:49 PM  
Eh.
The right wing endgame is to eliminate public schools anyway.
 
2022-05-27 3:47:20 PM  
All Lives Matter crowd: "You only care about kids?! Adults are victims, too! Clearly you have an agenda. You kids are no angels, either! I saw one of you in detention. Maybe you asked to be shot. Why are you trying to bring about adult genocide?"
 
2022-05-27 3:47:33 PM  
in Texas, parents can go to jail for if their kids are truant.

they have a separate court for that
 
2022-05-27 3:48:56 PM  
If those kids demonstrated outside Alito's house, I'd bet you'd get some outrage from the GOP.
 
2022-05-27 3:49:38 PM  

Xythero: fatassbastard: Won't make any difference

That's the spirit!


Interesting that you left off the second half of that sentence.

I look forward to your explanation of how this will make a difference to the GQP gun-protectors.
 
2022-05-27 3:51:17 PM  
Since 2009, 274 mass shootings have taken place in the country, killing 1,536 people, according to research from Everytown for Gun Safety.

Point of comparison:
In 2019, almost 2,400 teens in the United States aged 13-19 were killed1,2 and about 258,000 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes.

I get why shootings get all of the headlines, but if these numbers are accurate we could save far more students lives by raising the driving age to 18 than we would by banning guns.

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2022-05-27 3:52:24 PM  
Won't someone please think of the poor guns whose reputation is unfairly tarnished? Guns don't kill people. People kill people. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Now is not the time to talk about gun control. Let's offer lots of thoughts and prayers. Those kids died for freedom. If you don't like freedom then go be a commie in Venezuela or something.
 
2022-05-27 3:53:30 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: And there are school administrators with no optic vision who will suspend and expel kids over this


Highschool near me is a large square and has a cool quad in the middle.
For previous 'walk outs' that were sort of scheduled, they let the kids go out there were kids took turns talking or they read the names of the victims during silence.   
Not all admins are assholes.
 
2022-05-27 3:56:19 PM  
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2022-05-27 3:56:27 PM  

Shaggy_C: Since 2009, 274 mass shootings have taken place in the country, killing 1,536 people, according to research from Everytown for Gun Safety.

Point of comparison:
In 2019, almost 2,400 teens in the United States aged 13-19 were killed1,2 and about 258,000 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes.

I get why shootings get all of the headlines, but if these numbers are accurate we could save far more students lives by raising the driving age to 18 than we would by banning guns.

/whynotboth.jpg


That's just the "mass shootings".  Guns kill more children than car accidents in the US, and in fact they are the leading cause of injury-related deaths among Americans under 18.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761

But please, tell us again how bad something other than guns are.
 
2022-05-27 3:57:30 PM  

Shaggy_C: Since 2009, 274 mass shootings have taken place in the country, killing 1,536 people, according to research from Everytown for Gun Safety.

Point of comparison:
In 2019, almost 2,400 teens in the United States aged 13-19 were killed1,2 and about 258,000 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes.

I get why shootings get all of the headlines, but if these numbers are accurate we could save far more students lives by raising the driving age to 18 than we would by banning guns.

/whynotboth.jpg


Fun fact: when you look at ages 1-19 firearm-related injuries overtook motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of death, in 2020
 
2022-05-27 3:58:16 PM  
Libby liberals. This is America. Gun Lives Matter!
 
2022-05-27 3:58:39 PM  
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2022-05-27 4:00:29 PM  

Weaver95: One of the survivors smeared the blood of her dying classmates on herself as camouflage...and if THAT story isn't moving the dial on gun control, then nothing will.
Nothing is going to change, because our government is no longer functional.


Ever read stories from countries that have stable, functional governments that occasionally do things that aren't motivated solely by greed, corruption, stupidity and/or malice and haven't essentially thrown their entire non-wealthy populace to the wolves?  Those are nice, aren't they?  Don't those places sound nice?
 
2022-05-27 4:01:29 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Eh.
The right wing endgame is to eliminate public schools anyway.


We're there.
 
2022-05-27 4:02:27 PM  

abbarach: Fun fact: when you look at ages 1-19 firearm-related injuries overtook motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of death, in 2020


Interesting chart in there. I do wonder what drove such a huge spike in 2020. Lockdowns and school closures leaving more kids on the streets rather in the classroom? Or was it a big spike in school shootings?

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In any case, I appreciate the additional data point. Will be telling once the 2021 figures come out if this huge uptick is a trend or the new normal.
 
2022-05-27 4:03:13 PM  
Ugh, sorry about that, didn't paste the image in correctly in the preview. "So nice, I included it thrice."
 
2022-05-27 4:04:40 PM  

Shaggy_C: Since 2009, 274 mass shootings have taken place in the country, killing 1,536 people, according to research from Everytown for Gun Safety.

Point of comparison:
In 2019, almost 2,400 teens in the United States aged 13-19 were killed1,2 and about 258,000 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes.

I get why shootings get all of the headlines, but if these numbers are accurate we could save far more students lives by raising the driving age to 18 than we would by banning guns.

/whynotboth.jpg


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2022-05-27 4:04:49 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: And there are school administrators with no optic vision who will suspend and expel kids over this, to the point of tracking down social media posts and having them deleted and replaced with positive posts.

And they will double, triple, and quadruple down.


"PERMANENT RECORDS!" >.>
 
2022-05-27 4:06:02 PM  

OhioUGrad: kmgenesis23: Agreed that this isn't going to do much. Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.

Those are heavily enforced gun-free zones for some reason.


I am sure they can find a door left propped open by an irresponsible state rep.
 
2022-05-27 4:07:07 PM  
Oh, isn't that cute?  Well, if you want real change, why don't you vote?  What's that?  You're too young to vote?  Well you can always start a Super PAC.  Your allowance doesn't cover that?  What a shame.

In that case, go back to your classroom and die so I can get another check from the gun lobby.

Being serious for a moment, gun control is one of many excellent reasons to lower the voting age.  So much of our system is broken because we have ancient dinosaurs making decisions for young people who have zero representation (no, parents do not count, there is no guarantee or even likeliness that they agree on issues).  For anyone saying that 15 or 16 year olds lack the mental development to make that kind of decision, I direct your attention to the monumental idiocy and ignorance of the average Republican voter.  Not even joking here.
 
2022-05-27 4:07:14 PM  

Shaggy_C: I get why shootings get all of the headlines, but if these numbers are accurate we could save far more students lives by raising the driving age to 18 than we would by banning guns.

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Because driving is important.

/still raise the driving age...teenagers have terrible judgment
 
2022-05-27 4:08:24 PM  
Just curious, what happened the last time a school shooting prompted kids to get politically active and stage walkouts?

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Wow, I hope that lady got run out of town on a rail - harassing survivors of a school shooting for exercising their right to petition their government for a redress of grievances seems like the kind of thing Americans of all stripes should unite against.
 
2022-05-27 4:08:43 PM  
They won't see any real action until they start coming to school armed. If all the kids show up to school armed with AR-15s pretty sure gun legislation will get passed pretty quick.
 
2022-05-27 4:09:57 PM  

houstondragon: OtherLittleGuy: And there are school administrators with no optic vision who will suspend and expel kids over this, to the point of tracking down social media posts and having them deleted and replaced with positive posts.

And they will double, triple, and quadruple down.

"PERMANENT RECORDS!" >.>


DEMERITS!!!

/wtf is a demerit anyway?
//no I will not google it
///three demerits for everyone!
 
2022-05-27 4:11:31 PM  

Hyjamon: OhioUGrad: kmgenesis23: Agreed that this isn't going to do much. Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.

Those are heavily enforced gun-free zones for some reason.

I am sure they can find a door left propped open by an irresponsible state rep.


You mean this guy?
 
2022-05-27 4:14:31 PM  

Hyjamon: houstondragon: OtherLittleGuy: And there are school administrators with no optic vision who will suspend and expel kids over this, to the point of tracking down social media posts and having them deleted and replaced with positive posts.

And they will double, triple, and quadruple down.

"PERMANENT RECORDS!" >.>

DEMERITS!!!

/wtf is a demerit anyway?
//no I will not google it
///three demerits for everyone!


If you get too many demerits, Slytherin wins, probably.
 
2022-05-27 4:19:25 PM  
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2022-05-27 4:21:18 PM  

fatassbastard: Won't make any difference, at least to the GQP gun-protectors. They'll just claim it's the kids' lib parents "making the issue political", or somesuch idiocy.

The only difference it could help make is motivating people to vote out the jackasses and vote in people who will actually try to do something.

I ain't holding my breath.


The kids are doing something.

More than we can say for the adults.
 
2022-05-27 4:21:50 PM  

kmgenesis23: Agreed that this isn't going to do much. Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.


Nothing's stopping you from doing this. Have at it.
 
2022-05-27 4:22:09 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Sadly, I feel like this is something Republicans would want, as it will only hurt the education system to do this.

kmgenesis23: Now if they walked out, bought guns, then went open carrying to surround some State Houses .... maybe.

This is a better idea.


Then do it.
 
2022-05-27 4:23:04 PM  

BlousyBrown: It's a nice idea, but this country is farked.


Might as well do nothing, then.

Get back into scho and get murdered, kids. Your efforts are useless. Enjoy dying.
 
2022-05-27 4:24:13 PM  
All this will do is feed the home-school/private-school crowd and help public schools deteriorate even further.
 
2022-05-27 4:25:46 PM  

fatassbastard: Xythero: fatassbastard: Won't make any difference

That's the spirit!

Interesting that you left off the second half of that sentence.

I look forward to your explanation of how this will make a difference to the GQP gun-protectors.


I'm waiting for you to explain what the kids should be doing instead.

It's pretty f*cking rich for adults to sit here and criticize the reasons of children to being murdered, when you're not the ones being murdered.

Support these kids. Stop being sh*tty.
 
2022-05-27 4:26:24 PM  

Decorus: They won't see any real action until they start coming to school armed. If all the kids show up to school armed with AR-15s pretty sure gun legislation will get passed pretty quick.


Then buy them some guns.
 
2022-05-27 4:26:39 PM  

Shaggy_C: abbarach: Fun fact: when you look at ages 1-19 firearm-related injuries overtook motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of death, in 2020

Interesting chart in there. I do wonder what drove such a huge spike in 2020. Lockdowns and school closures leaving more kids on the streets rather in the classroom? Or was it a big spike in school shootings?

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In any case, I appreciate the additional data point. Will be telling once the 2021 figures come out if this huge uptick is a trend or the new normal.


Last thread about students protesting gun violence, you accused them all of being lazy stoners who just wanted to skip school on 4/20. And now you're bending over backwards to justify an unjustifiable conclusion that guns in schools are okay because some years  they're not even the leading cause of death.

Why is it your personal mission to shiat on kids who just don't want to get shot at school? What is the endgame for you? What's the psychological or emotional reward you get from mocking childrens' lives?
 
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