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(NYPost)   New Jersey is on track to meet an annual goal of bringing in $19 million a year in pot taxes, the state saw over $24 million in legal weed sales during the first month that dispensaries were open to non-medical customers   (nypost.com) divider line
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2022-05-27 10:40:07 PM  
Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?
 
2022-05-27 10:43:16 PM  
It's unseemly for the state to profit from selling weed. They should just give every adult resident a free allotment of weed every month.
 
2022-05-27 10:44:16 PM  
It's a shocking amount of money.

In Illinois we collected $387 million in 2021.

That's cheddar.
 
2022-05-27 10:44:18 PM  
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2022-05-27 10:47:34 PM  
The Ganja State
 
2022-05-27 10:49:00 PM  
Spliffy!
 
2022-05-27 10:50:18 PM  
New Jersey finally has money for air fresher!
 
2022-05-27 10:53:15 PM  
I'm curious if there's a detectable corresponding dip in alcohol sales and DUIs.  Also, is there a bump in fast food and/or Frito-lay sales?
 
2022-05-27 10:56:17 PM  

geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?


Delaware gets by with it's lax laws on corporations.
 
2022-05-27 11:01:22 PM  

Aquapope: I'm curious if there's a detectable corresponding dip in alcohol sales and DUIs.  Also, is there a bump in fast food and/or Frito-lay sales?


But taco shops are popping up all along the Shore.
 
2022-05-27 11:08:52 PM  

geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?


Because, in GOP world, it's a dangerous gateway drug that leads to turning liberal and teaching CRT to kids.
 
2022-05-27 11:12:43 PM  
A while ago, there was some MST3K joke where the people on screen had some flower pots and crow said something about growing pot.  Whenever someone talks about growing pot, I always remember Crow's remark.  Also, Mike was more entertaining than Joel.
 
2022-05-27 11:14:41 PM  

FatherChaos: Because, in GOP world, it's a dangerous gateway drug that leads to turning liberal and teaching CRT to kids.


Also, if they legalized it, they'd need to find some other reason to harass, arrest, and jail POC.
 
2022-05-27 11:34:53 PM  
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2022-05-27 11:57:43 PM  
Who gives a fark?  This money Is going to go to an account/cause that doesn't need it, and they will tax people more for other pet projects anyway.
 
2022-05-28 12:20:30 AM  

geekbikerskum: FatherChaos: Because, in GOP world, it's a dangerous gateway drug that leads to turning liberal and teaching CRT to kids.

Also, if they legalized it, they'd need to find some other reason to harass, arrest, and jail POC.


This. How could we even PONDER taking away the cops' ability to claim they smelled weed as an excuse to ransack Black peoples' cars and steal anything of value under "civil asset forfeiture" laws?
 
2022-05-28 12:20:33 AM  
C'mon Biden, push for national legalization. It might save the midterms and it would reduce imprisonment a great deal at the least. It's ridiculous that no federal action has even been begun with the multiple states showing the benefits and lack of serious downsides to legalization.
 
2022-05-28 2:01:53 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Who gives a fark?  This money Is going to go to an account/cause that doesn't need it, and they will tax people more for other pet projects anyway.


shut it IVan
 
2022-05-28 2:13:15 AM  
Haha!   You have to go to New Jersey to get weed!!
 
2022-05-28 2:28:16 AM  

geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?


Someone there's making money off of weed not being legal.
 
2022-05-28 2:50:11 AM  
CSB

I'm typing this after having hernia surgery this afternoon and instead of the oxycodone at night I am taking a 20mg edible (pill form) with a couple of 1:18MG THC/CBD gummies. I purchased these from my local dispensary, Kannabis Works in Santa Ana.  That way I can take my zzyquil, melatonin and sleep tab to put me out at night and get sleep my body needs to heal.

The point is why the fark isn't this being touted as pain management instead of constipation inducing and addictive oxycodone. I'm in farking California and most of the time the dispensaries are all about the weed you smoke, worthless for pain management because the euphoria wears off quickly. That's how you truly sell it to the masses and those on the edge.

My lefty friends are all about it, but even my righty friends see me and more than a few have started the regiment I've used for this and more importantly the Occipital Neuralgia I was diagnosed with a year ago.

/also stopped shoving cookies in my mouth and lost 60pds
//deep tissue massage weekly and working with a trainer helped as well
///Three gummies a day keeps the Occipital Neuralgia away
 
2022-05-28 5:52:45 AM  

geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?


Let me guess . The money is going to the schools . ( eyeroll )
 
2022-05-28 6:31:24 AM  
Awesome.  Now lower property taxes.
 
2022-05-28 6:48:45 AM  
FTFA:  "New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, who led the state's charge to legalize cannabis and signed it into law in Feb. 2021, projected in his proposed $48.9 million budget currently being reviewed by lawmakers that the state would collect $19.1 million in legal pot taxes in the fiscal year beginning July 1."

Fantastic!  Weed taxes should pay ~forty percent of the state budget this year!  Isn't weed legalization amazing?

*looks up the figures*

Oh.  Oh no.  My apologies.  The proposed state budget this year is $48.9 billion, with a B.  Let's see now--that would mean that if they collect the amount of weed taxes they're expecting to, it will take care of .04 percent of the state budget.  Out of which they'll have to pay the bureaucracy that will claim to oversee the trade in weed.  Plus the state gets a bunch of weed stores staffed by gun-toting guards, a weed lobby in Trenton, and, if the experience of every other legalizing state is any indication, a continuing large black market in weed (and the violence and mayhem that will go with it) that the state will be powerless to suppress because the new weed laws are so moronic.  Now that's a future that I find attractive.

There's another lesson here, too, which is that you should always fact-check stories in the NY Post.
 
2022-05-28 7:56:12 AM  

FatherChaos: geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?

Because, in GOP world, it's a dangerous gateway drug that leads to turning liberal and teaching CRT to kids.


You must be really stoned if you believe the Delaware governor is a Republican.
 
2022-05-28 8:04:11 AM  

tirob: FTFA:  "New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, who led the state's charge to legalize cannabis and signed it into law in Feb. 2021, projected in his proposed $48.9 million budget currently being reviewed by lawmakers that the state would collect $19.1 million in legal pot taxes in the fiscal year beginning July 1."

Fantastic!  Weed taxes should pay ~forty percent of the state budget this year!  Isn't weed legalization amazing?

*looks up the figures*

Oh.  Oh no.  My apologies.  The proposed state budget this year is $48.9 billion, with a B.  Let's see now--that would mean that if they collect the amount of weed taxes they're expecting to, it will take care of .04 percent of the state budget.  Out of which they'll have to pay the bureaucracy that will claim to oversee the trade in weed.  Plus the state gets a bunch of weed stores staffed by gun-toting guards, a weed lobby in Trenton, and, if the experience of every other legalizing state is any indication, a continuing large black market in weed (and the violence and mayhem that will go with it) that the state will be powerless to suppress because the new weed laws are so moronic.  Now that's a future that I find attractive.

There's another lesson here, too, which is that you should always fact-check stories in the NY Post.


Not even the shop in Newark (ok, Bloomfield) has "gun-toting guards".

There are cops there, mostly because the place is so busy (there are 6 stores in the whole state, 3 of them within an hour of EWR) that it farks up traffic. The places themselves look like Apple started selling weed, much less of a blight than the liquor stores shiatting up most blocks.

About the worst thing is that an eighth of the good stuff is like $70.

Your reefer madness has again been noted. Thanks for your time.
 
2022-05-28 8:45:02 AM  

tirob: FTFA:  "New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, who led the state's charge to legalize cannabis and signed it into law in Feb. 2021, projected in his proposed $48.9 million budget currently being reviewed by lawmakers that the state would collect $19.1 million in legal pot taxes in the fiscal year beginning July 1."

Fantastic!  Weed taxes should pay ~forty percent of the state budget this year!  Isn't weed legalization amazing?

*looks up the figures*

Oh.  Oh no.  My apologies.  The proposed state budget this year is $48.9 billion, with a B.  Let's see now--that would mean that if they collect the amount of weed taxes they're expecting to, it will take care of .04 percent of the state budget.  Out of which they'll have to pay the bureaucracy that will claim to oversee the trade in weed.  Plus the state gets a bunch of weed stores staffed by gun-toting guards, a weed lobby in Trenton, and, if the experience of every other legalizing state is any indication, a continuing large black market in weed (and the violence and mayhem that will go with it) that the state will be powerless to suppress because the new weed laws are so moronic.  Now that's a future that I find attractive.

There's another lesson here, too, which is that you should always fact-check stories in the NY Post.


So starting in July (1/2 year) they will collect roughly $20,000,000  and you did some crazy drug warrior math and convinced yourself that $20M in 6 months was a problem?!?!?

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2022-05-28 8:46:43 AM  

tirob: <snip>


That's a lot of words to just say
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2022-05-28 9:13:32 AM  

Dr Dreidel: tirob: FTFA:  "New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, who led the state's charge to legalize cannabis and signed it into law in Feb. 2021, projected in his proposed $48.9 million budget currently being reviewed by lawmakers that the state would collect $19.1 million in legal pot taxes in the fiscal year beginning July 1."

Fantastic!  Weed taxes should pay ~forty percent of the state budget this year!  Isn't weed legalization amazing?

*looks up the figures*

Oh.  Oh no.  My apologies.  The proposed state budget this year is $48.9 billion, with a B.  Let's see now--that would mean that if they collect the amount of weed taxes they're expecting to, it will take care of .04 percent of the state budget.  Out of which they'll have to pay the bureaucracy that will claim to oversee the trade in weed.  Plus the state gets a bunch of weed stores staffed by gun-toting guards, a weed lobby in Trenton, and, if the experience of every other legalizing state is any indication, a continuing large black market in weed (and the violence and mayhem that will go with it) that the state will be powerless to suppress because the new weed laws are so moronic.  Now that's a future that I find attractive.

There's another lesson here, too, which is that you should always fact-check stories in the NY Post.

Not even the shop in Newark (ok, Bloomfield) has "gun-toting guards".

There are cops there, mostly because the place is so busy (there are 6 stores in the whole state, 3 of them within an hour of EWR) that it farks up traffic. The places themselves look like Apple started selling weed, much less of a blight than the liquor stores shiatting up most blocks.

About the worst thing is that an eighth of the good stuff is like $70.

Your reefer madness has again been noted. Thanks for your time.


The stores I've seen in PA (that sell medical weed so called)  all have gun toting guards.  I'd suggest to you that the cops that you see are probably also there to protect the stores against robbers and burglars, as well as for crowd control.

SpectroBoy:
So starting in July (1/2 year) they will collect roughly $20,000,000  and you did some crazy drug warrior math and convinced yourself that $20M in 6 months was a problem?!?!?

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The money isn't the problem.  It's the associated drawbacks of legalization--I've listed some of them above--that are the problem.
 
2022-05-28 9:25:52 AM  

tirob: The stores I've seen in PA (that sell medical weed so called)  all have gun toting guards.  I'd suggest to you that the cops that you see are probably also there to protect the stores against robbers and burglars, as well as for crowd control.


The less-busy shop in Rochelle Park has zero visible guns anywhere. Again, I think there MIGHT be A cop (singular, in a cruiser) parked nearby, but the shop is on heavily-traveled Route 17 so it's probably just to keep anyone from pulling illegal U-turns and shiat.

The liquor store I worked at in Baltimore had been robbed a few times, and the liquor store - pardon me, stores - I lived near in Newark could probably have used some police presence every now and again to protect against robberies and help with crowd control (like when some kid blocked the only damn exit so he could carefully pour his codeine syrup into the bottle of Sprite he'd just purchased using coins he painstakingly counted out on the counter).

Ever been to a busy bodega in a city? THAT's a place that needs crowd control. The pot shops in NJ (the 3 I've been to, anyway) have attendants and rope lines and an airlock in front*, and whole lot of space on the retail side.

// but keep going, your fear-piss makes the crop grow better
* a lobby with a separate door to get to the main shop, with at least one person checking IDs on the way in
 
2022-05-28 9:30:04 AM  

tirob: Dr Dreidel: tirob: FTFA:  "New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, who led the state's charge to legalize cannabis and signed it into law in Feb. 2021, projected in his proposed $48.9 million budget currently being reviewed by lawmakers that the state would collect $19.1 million in legal pot taxes in the fiscal year beginning July 1."

Fantastic!  Weed taxes should pay ~forty percent of the state budget this year!  Isn't weed legalization amazing?

*looks up the figures*

Oh.  Oh no.  My apologies.  The proposed state budget this year is $48.9 billion, with a B.  Let's see now--that would mean that if they collect the amount of weed taxes they're expecting to, it will take care of .04 percent of the state budget.  Out of which they'll have to pay the bureaucracy that will claim to oversee the trade in weed.  Plus the state gets a bunch of weed stores staffed by gun-toting guards, a weed lobby in Trenton, and, if the experience of every other legalizing state is any indication, a continuing large black market in weed (and the violence and mayhem that will go with it) that the state will be powerless to suppress because the new weed laws are so moronic.  Now that's a future that I find attractive.

There's another lesson here, too, which is that you should always fact-check stories in the NY Post.

Not even the shop in Newark (ok, Bloomfield) has "gun-toting guards".

There are cops there, mostly because the place is so busy (there are 6 stores in the whole state, 3 of them within an hour of EWR) that it farks up traffic. The places themselves look like Apple started selling weed, much less of a blight than the liquor stores shiatting up most blocks.

About the worst thing is that an eighth of the good stuff is like $70.

Your reefer madness has again been noted. Thanks for your time.

The stores I've seen in PA (that sell medical weed so called)  all have gun toting guards.  I'd suggest to you that the cops that you see are probably also there to protect the stores against robb ...


no armed guards im Mass at any of the places ive been.

the place down the rd from me in CT has none either and its a medical only facility.

and the Buffalo grocery store where all those people got killed had an armed guard, so whats your point ?

its not the businesses fault they are being told they have to work in cash (for the most part). that is a result of legislation which makes them bigger targets for criminals. like restaurants and the like.

i find it rather odd a drug warrior such as yourself is seemingly traveling the country to observe cannabis retail establishments but missing all the ones in nice places
 
2022-05-28 10:20:38 AM  
Snore. That's the cost to fix like one pothole in NJ, as if they'd bother.
 
2022-05-28 10:23:21 AM  

NathanAllen: It's a shocking amount of money.

In Illinois we collected $387 million in 2021.

That's cheddar.


Michigan collected 172 million in 2021.

Both sales tax and cannabis excise tax on rec is much lower in Michigan.

I looked at a handful of Illinois dispensaries online and appears that pretax price of cannabis is much higher 2-3x.

Purchased 2 X 100mg edibles last week $16 for the edibles plus $1.56 for the taxes.
 
2022-05-28 12:06:43 PM  
So "that guy" still won't give up his personal Fark crusade?

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/have fun being the Spalding Gray of Sucks to Be You
 
2022-05-28 12:25:50 PM  
tirob:

It's the associated drawbacks of legalization

None of which have ever 1) materialized or 2) been supported by anything except the excretions vacating you're colon.
 
2022-05-28 8:53:18 PM  

Summoner101: geekbikerskum: Meanwhile, Gov. Carney in Delaware just vetoed legal weed. Money, who needs it, right?

Delaware gets by with it's lax laws on corporations.


Don't forget about raking in all that big big money from that tax free shopping from that DE side of O.C.
 
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