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2022-05-27 6:59:40 AM  
Can't to watch this over some fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti.
 
2022-05-27 7:29:35 AM  
Oh, man, if I was a lady...
 
2022-05-27 8:56:18 AM  
Gimme a break.
 
2022-05-27 9:04:48 AM  
To solve the case, Detectives Liz Danvers and Evangeline Navarro will have to confront the darkness they carry in themselves, and dig into the haunted truths that lie buried under the eternal ice.

So they both have trauma and the murders are part of a cover up.  I hope the scripts aren't as fart huffing as that.
 
2022-05-27 9:06:01 AM  
Hope she doesn't try to pull off one of her awful accents
 
2022-05-27 9:09:12 AM  
Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.
 
2022-05-27 9:22:04 AM  
Nice! I was worried the second season had hurt the third bad enough to kill it. Glad it's getting another season.
 
2022-05-27 9:30:09 AM  
The acting in all of the seasons has been pretty phenomenal. The thing is, like many HBO series, the culmination goes all pants on head stupid.
 
2022-05-27 9:39:30 AM  

NeoCortex42: Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.


Agreed. This cut-free scene alone ...

https://vimeo.com/172079250
 
2022-05-27 9:42:17 AM  
Wait, did I miss there was a Season 3?  I heard 2 didn't even hold a candle to season 1 so kind of checked out mentally, I guess
 
2022-05-27 9:53:26 AM  

NeoCortex42: Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.


And then it wisely didn't.  And then the second season did the same thing, where I was convinced there must have been a religious cult involved (why else would they have cast David Morse is such a wee role?).
 
2022-05-27 9:54:37 AM  

Ragin' Asian: The acting in all of the seasons has been pretty phenomenal.


except for Vince Vaughn he was the wrong person for that role
 
2022-05-27 9:54:40 AM  

swankywanky: Wait, did I miss there was a Season 3?  I heard 2 didn't even hold a candle to season 1 so kind of checked out mentally, I guess


season 3 was better than season 1 but season 1 is till the strongest IMHO.

i keep hoping for a season 3 of Manhunter.
 
2022-05-27 9:55:23 AM  

swankywanky: Wait, did I miss there was a Season 3?  I heard 2 didn't even hold a candle to season 1 so kind of checked out mentally, I guess


Came to make almost this exact comment.  Had no clue there was a third season after the dumpster fire of the second.

Damn if that first season wasn't great, though.
 
2022-05-27 9:58:36 AM  
I liked season 3 a lot. Not better than 1, but enjoyable.
 
2022-05-27 10:15:04 AM  
Jodie Foster is pretty awesome.
 
2022-05-27 10:22:40 AM  
Season 2 gets a lot of justified hate, but THE beatdown scene made the whole thing worthwhile
 
2022-05-27 10:50:59 AM  
3 is really good, for anyone who likes 1 but not 2 (like me.)

This has me cautious though:
"Cary Joji Fukunaga and creator Nic Pizzolatto are also credited as EPs though neither will be involved in the creative of season four."

I believe they were not involved in writing 2 also, so...
 
2022-05-27 11:09:05 AM  
Normally I'll watch anything Foster is in, but season 2 was so so so terrible that I won't watch. Never.
 
2022-05-27 11:13:22 AM  
Season 2 had its moments, Rachel McAdams was great, but Vince Vaughn and Collin Farrell's stupid mustache weren't. Great Leonard Cohen song for the intro. Overall though, meh.

Season 3 was more consistent, but aside from the claymore scene I can't really remember much from it other than finding it acceptable.

Here's hoping the 4th time recaptures the magic of the first season. I love me some Jodie Foster.
 
2022-05-27 11:13:56 AM  
In the middle of season 3 right now. It was filmed in NW arkansas, where I spent a few weeks every summer growing up, during some of the same time period the show covers. It really gets the vibe right.

It's MUCH better than season2, but not quite as good as season1. There are a couple of reasons I like season 1 better . Oh, and it also had Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson. ;-)
 
2022-05-27 11:15:49 AM  
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2022-05-27 11:23:51 AM  
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2022-05-27 11:26:59 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Ragin' Asian: The acting in all of the seasons has been pretty phenomenal.

except for Vince Vaughn he was the wrong person for that role


Unless you need an irritating persona. He is never suitable for a role.
 
2022-05-27 11:27:27 AM  
Hopefully it will be closer to seasons 1 and 3, and not 2.
 
2022-05-27 11:29:21 AM  

swankywanky: Wait, did I miss there was a Season 3?  I heard 2 didn't even hold a candle to season 1 so kind of checked out mentally, I guess


Yes, and it was pretty good, even if it didn't have the freshness of the 1st season.
 
2022-05-27 11:34:49 AM  
As mentioned, nothing is really gonna top season one, but not having Pizzolatto directly involved is a HUGE step in the right direction. 

The only highlight of season two was an angry, brooding, Bourbon-drinking Rachel McAdams.

But that's probably more about me than the season itself.
 
2022-05-27 11:36:13 AM  
This sounds far too high-concept for that show.
 
2022-05-27 11:51:42 AM  

NeoCortex42: Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.


Season 3 is also excellent, and in some ways it's the antithesis of season 1. Worth watching.
 
2022-05-27 11:52:53 AM  
Somehow I've never seen any True Detective outside of an Alexandra Daddario clip.

Somehow I stuck with most of San Andreas solely because of her even though she obviously didn't get naked, she was just stunningly beautiful and I'd never seen her before.

To recap, I haven't seen something that is supposed to be very good with a naked Daddario but I did stomach most of a shiatty movie with a clothed Daddario. I can't even justify that crap to myself.
 
2022-05-27 11:57:43 AM  

NateAsbestos: 3 is really good, for anyone who likes 1 but not 2 (like me.)

This has me cautious though:
"Cary Joji Fukunaga and creator Nic Pizzolatto are also credited as EPs though neither will be involved in the creative of season four."

I believe they were not involved in writing 2 also, so...


Some snark may be going over my head here, but Pizzolato was the main creative force for season 2. Fukunaga, however, had left for season 2.

For those thinking Pizzolato is the problem, I don't think that's entirely the case. I mean, yes, he bears responsibility for season 2's decline in quality, but both seasons 1 and 3 are excellent. He was the head of both of those seasons, as well. It seems his main problem was not having the time to develop season 2 with the care put into 1 and 3. After the wild success of the first season, it seems he allowed himself to get rushed into producing season 2.

It also doesn't hurt that he got some help from David Milch for season 3.
 
2022-05-27 12:09:35 PM  
LOVED Season 1! Watched all of Season 2 and hate myself for staying with it. Tried to get into Season 3 but just couldn't. I think the chemistry between the two leads in Season 1 set such a massively high bar that getting close to it would be nigh impossible.
 
2022-05-27 12:16:14 PM  
Jodie Foster is a fantastic actor and seems like a decent, thoughtful person, so I'm definitely interested in this news.  I'd watch anything she does.

/ Always appreciated how much she stood up for her friend, Mel Gibson, when the easy move would have been to pile on.  Unlike the most of feckless, front-running Hollywood, she doesn't bolt when the chips are down and has compassion for people with problems.  Add to that tremendous talent and beauty and, apparently, a personality that doesn't require dominating the room every time she's around and she's pretty much great.
 
2022-05-27 12:43:22 PM  

elvindeath: Jodie Foster is a fantastic actor and seems like a decent, thoughtful person, so I'm definitely interested in this news.  I'd watch anything she does.

/ Always appreciated how much she stood up for her friend, Mel Gibson, when the easy move would have been to pile on.  Unlike the most of feckless, front-running Hollywood, she doesn't bolt when the chips are down and has compassion for people with problems.  Add to that tremendous talent and beauty and, apparently, a personality that doesn't require dominating the room every time she's around and she's pretty much great.


You approve of bigots, got it.
 
2022-05-27 12:59:47 PM  

perilsensitive: Season 2 gets a lot of justified hate, but THE beatdown scene made the whole thing worthwhile


This. Colin Farrell was farking great. "You ever bully another kid, I will come here and butt fark your father with your mother's headless corpse." Or something like that.
 
2022-05-27 1:10:23 PM  

phlegmjay: NeoCortex42: Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.

Season 3 is also excellent, and in some ways it's the antithesis of season 1. Worth watching.


It was solid enough. Definitely a huge improvement over the second season. I didn't even finish that one.
 
2022-05-27 1:19:57 PM  
I've tried watching Season 2 and Season 3. 2 I gave up on after one episode. 3, I watched a couple before I bailed.

Season 1 is just too perfect. Everything after is destined to disappoint. I would say season one is the best "mini-series" of all-time.

The best single season of a regular TV show? I would argue that the first season of "Veronica Mars" is nearly perfect.  I'm still bummed that season 4 was so weak.
 
2022-05-27 1:36:17 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: elvindeath: Jodie Foster is a fantastic actor and seems like a decent, thoughtful person, so I'm definitely interested in this news.  I'd watch anything she does.

/ Always appreciated how much she stood up for her friend, Mel Gibson, when the easy move would have been to pile on.  Unlike the most of feckless, front-running Hollywood, she doesn't bolt when the chips are down and has compassion for people with problems.  Add to that tremendous talent and beauty and, apparently, a personality that doesn't require dominating the room every time she's around and she's pretty much great.

You approve of bigots, got it.


I think there is something to be said for a person who maintains an open hand for a friend who screwed up when the easy thing to do would be to turn your back to them.
 
2022-05-27 1:48:05 PM  

swankywanky: Wait, did I miss there was a Season 3?  I heard 2 didn't even hold a candle to season 1 so kind of checked out mentally, I guess


I thought season 3 was good.  Much like the first season, it's driven by the strong performances of its leads.

I know I'm in the minority, but I think season 1 is incredibly overrated.  Harrelson and McConaughey were both fantastic and the cinematography was outstanding.  But the story itself was the weak link.  I didn't even give season 2 a chance after hearing the lackluster reviews after the first few episodes.
 
2022-05-27 2:10:37 PM  

phlegmjay: NateAsbestos: 3 is really good, for anyone who likes 1 but not 2 (like me.)

This has me cautious though:
"Cary Joji Fukunaga and creator Nic Pizzolatto are also credited as EPs though neither will be involved in the creative of season four."

I believe they were not involved in writing 2 also, so...

Some snark may be going over my head here, but Pizzolato was the main creative force for season 2. Fukunaga, however, had left for season 2.

For those thinking Pizzolato is the problem, I don't think that's entirely the case. I mean, yes, he bears responsibility for season 2's decline in quality, but both seasons 1 and 3 are excellent. He was the head of both of those seasons, as well. It seems his main problem was not having the time to develop season 2 with the care put into 1 and 3. After the wild success of the first season, it seems he allowed himself to get rushed into producing season 2.

It also doesn't hurt that he got some help from David Milch for season 3.


You seem more knowledgeable than I on this, so I'll defer to you on it.

If I recall correctly, wasn't 2 also a victim of a writer strike of some kind?
 
2022-05-27 2:33:07 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: elvindeath: Jodie Foster is a fantastic actor and seems like a decent, thoughtful person, so I'm definitely interested in this news.  I'd watch anything she does.

/ Always appreciated how much she stood up for her friend, Mel Gibson, when the easy move would have been to pile on.  Unlike the most of feckless, front-running Hollywood, she doesn't bolt when the chips are down and has compassion for people with problems.  Add to that tremendous talent and beauty and, apparently, a personality that doesn't require dominating the room every time she's around and she's pretty much great.

You approve of bigots, got it.


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In real life nobody's perfect.  On the internet, nobodies are perfect.

Jodie Foster has built up enough credibility that I wouldn't rush to call her a bigot.
 
2022-05-27 2:57:02 PM  
Season 4?  there was a 3?  they made one after 2?  on purpose?  did they lose a bet or something?
 
2022-05-27 3:15:46 PM  
Season 3 was decent. It doesn't reach the level of season one due to being slower paced and the conclusion wasn't as impactful. It was more mournful, and existentially bleak.
 
2022-05-27 3:17:37 PM  

Omnidirectional Punching: Season 3 was decent. It doesn't reach the level of season one due to being slower paced and the conclusion wasn't as impactful. It was more mournful, and existentially bleak.


I don't know that I'd call 3 more existentially bleak than 1... "at least I'm not racing towards a red light"
 
2022-05-27 3:21:30 PM  

NateAsbestos: Omnidirectional Punching: Season 3 was decent. It doesn't reach the level of season one due to being slower paced and the conclusion wasn't as impactful. It was more mournful, and existentially bleak.

I don't know that I'd call 3 more existentially bleak than 1... "at least I'm not racing towards a red light"


I think you're misremembering or misinterpreting things. 1 went out on a hopeful high note. 3 was a decent into that final dark forest. Legitimately terrifying.
 
2022-05-27 3:47:54 PM  

Omnidirectional Punching: NateAsbestos: Omnidirectional Punching: Season 3 was decent. It doesn't reach the level of season one due to being slower paced and the conclusion wasn't as impactful. It was more mournful, and existentially bleak.

I don't know that I'd call 3 more existentially bleak than 1... "at least I'm not racing towards a red light"

I think you're misremembering or misinterpreting things. 1 went out on a hopeful high note. 3 was a decent into that final dark forest. Legitimately terrifying.


Not misremembering anything. Despite good 1's ending was, it was still a VERY dark season
 
2022-05-27 4:06:58 PM  

phlegmjay: NeoCortex42: Nothing's going to match that first season.  Part of what had me so invested in it was the feeling that at any minute, it was going to turn into a supernatural Lovecraftian story.

Season 3 is also excellent, and in some ways it's the antithesis of season 1. Worth watching.


As said above, I've got a special nostalgia thing with Season 3. They literally filmed some of it in my grandparent's home town, where my grandfather was a mayor for a few years. (The community center they had in the show was the American Legion post I went to a few times with my grandfather).

NW Arkansas is hard scrabble poor folks without much of a chance of getting out. The guy driving around scrapping is consistent with what a lot of people have to do there.
 
2022-05-27 4:42:54 PM  

FLMountainMan: Tyrone Slothrop: elvindeath: Jodie Foster is a fantastic actor and seems like a decent, thoughtful person, so I'm definitely interested in this news.  I'd watch anything she does.

/ Always appreciated how much she stood up for her friend, Mel Gibson, when the easy move would have been to pile on.  Unlike the most of feckless, front-running Hollywood, she doesn't bolt when the chips are down and has compassion for people with problems.  Add to that tremendous talent and beauty and, apparently, a personality that doesn't require dominating the room every time she's around and she's pretty much great.

You approve of bigots, got it.

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In real life nobody's perfect.  On the internet, nobodies are perfect.

Jodie Foster has built up enough credibility that I wouldn't rush to call her a bigot.


I mean, it's easy to call someone a bigot on the internet - it's pretty much all the technology is good for these days.   Insipid panty wastes calling each other names with no knowledge of - or care - for any kind of context or nuance.

This was a pretty good article on her thoughts, though:  https://www.eonline.com/news/760289/jodie-foster-passionately-defends-mel-gibson-like-it-s-2006-all-over-again

So I mean, yeah, I suppose if being compassionate and understanding means some random turd on the internet gets a twitch in their flaccid nether-regions over throwing out some baseless invective, fine.

/ Jodie's not alone, for sure.  Many people who actually know him are vehement supporters.  Kurt Russell, Danny Glover, Robert Downer Jr (whose career Gibson almost single handedly rescued from the trash heap when feckless Hollywood had cast him off for his own drug problems).  Grace, support and redemption are qualities we could use more of right now - not less.
 
2022-05-27 5:05:28 PM  

thornhill: Normally I'll watch anything Foster is in, but season 2 was so so so terrible that I won't watch. Never.


I recently watched Taxi Driver for the first time and then decided to go on a Jodie Foster binge.

Watched Freaky Friday, Candleshoe, The little girl who lives down the lane, flightplan, bugsy malone, inside man.  (Basically her entire filmography that I hadn't already seen that's actually available to stream somewhere)

And the common thread amongst almost all of those?  They're not great, they're mediocre at best, but Foster is amazing in all of them.  Even though half of them she's a teen or tween.  She's a phenomenal actress and has been for almost 50 years.

Even if it meh, I'm sure she'll be amazing in it.
 
2022-05-27 5:16:38 PM  

NateAsbestos: phlegmjay: NateAsbestos: 3 is really good, for anyone who likes 1 but not 2 (like me.)

This has me cautious though:
"Cary Joji Fukunaga and creator Nic Pizzolatto are also credited as EPs though neither will be involved in the creative of season four."

I believe they were not involved in writing 2 also, so...

Some snark may be going over my head here, but Pizzolato was the main creative force for season 2. Fukunaga, however, had left for season 2.

For those thinking Pizzolato is the problem, I don't think that's entirely the case. I mean, yes, he bears responsibility for season 2's decline in quality, but both seasons 1 and 3 are excellent. He was the head of both of those seasons, as well. It seems his main problem was not having the time to develop season 2 with the care put into 1 and 3. After the wild success of the first season, it seems he allowed himself to get rushed into producing season 2.

It also doesn't hurt that he got some help from David Milch for season 3.

You seem more knowledgeable than I on this, so I'll defer to you on it.

If I recall correctly, wasn't 2 also a victim of a writer strike of some kind?


I don't think there was a writers strike, but I also just don't remember well enough to say with any certainty. IIRC, Pizzolato has done the lion's share of the writing for the whole series, and he wrote seasons 1 and 2 almost entirely himself (one person co-wrote a couple of eps in season 2). From what I understand, he wrote the first season over the course of several years. When that season was a success, HBO wanted another season the next year, as is generally expected of shows, and he struggled to keep up with the conception, writing and revision of a full season in that time. And the season - though it has some excellent performances and other elements - is on the whole a failure, particularly in comparison to the first season.

Then, with season 3, he got a little more help and had 4 years to work on the concept and scripts before the season aired. The result is another excellent season, anchored by excellent performances by Ali and Dorff, but also with legitimately good plotting. Some people still didn't like it, particularly in comparison to the first season, and that's fine. In some cases, though, (not all) while they say it's in comparison to the first season that the third fails, I suspect that it's really that they've let their feelings about the second season cloud their ability to appreciate the third. Or a combination of the two.
 
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