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(CNBC)   Soros says Russia is full of gas. Should fart in your general direction soon   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2022-05-26 12:29:12 PM  
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Now Mr. Putin, go away or I shall taunt you again.
 
2022-05-26 2:19:08 PM  
C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!
 
2022-05-26 2:20:46 PM  
Time for boom.
 
2022-05-26 2:21:24 PM  
So he is saying Russia is basically Texas with the inbreeding turned up to eleven?
 
2022-05-26 2:26:27 PM  
Good.  Let them feed their population with it.
 
2022-05-26 2:29:36 PM  
How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.
 
2022-05-26 2:31:01 PM  
"Europe should then impose hefty tax on gas imports so that the price to the consumer doesn't go down."

Heaven forbid that the consumers somehow avoid getting screwed.
 
2022-05-26 2:31:05 PM  
It's not just gas, but borschtsharts. We've been smelling it for years.
 
2022-05-26 2:34:26 PM  
Perhaps a Russian bank would lend us the money to purchase that oil, since Russia wants all payments in rubles.
 
2022-05-26 2:37:04 PM  
All true, but what is Soros' angle?
 
2022-05-26 2:37:54 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.


Pretty much every country that isn't the US is doing exactly that, many with a goal data to be done with fossil fuels for good. The US isn't because of one political party.
 
2022-05-26 2:38:02 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.


I second this motion.  Especially since it might create moar jobs for burned-out old electronics technicians like yours truly.
 
2022-05-26 2:38:36 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.


I think this is one of the main reasons China is "supporting" Russia's war.  They want the Russians to continue fighting in Ukraine, because it makes the Russians weak, and the Chinese get to sell weapons to Russia, in exchange for cheep gas, then turn around and sell solar panels and wind turbines to the Europeans.  They ultimately don't care who wins.

Also, China has vast stocks of old and obsolete tanks, including knock offs of the T-55, that I fully expect them to start selling to the Russians soon.
 
2022-05-26 2:40:35 PM  

Diocletian's Last Cabbage: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

I second this motion.  Especially since it might create moar jobs for burned-out old electronics technicians like yours truly.


Hear, hear!
 
2022-05-26 2:41:18 PM  

IrieTom: "Europe should then impose hefty tax on gas imports so that the price to the consumer doesn't go down."

Heaven forbid that the consumers somehow avoid getting screwed.


I understand the logic of this.

Make the gas too cheap, and the general public are less likely to support eliminating the dependency on gas from Russia.
 
2022-05-26 2:44:10 PM  
If the storage gets full, why wouldn't they just vent the gas instead of shutting the hard-to-restart wells?
 
2022-05-26 2:44:14 PM  

Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!


Difficulty: Soros says Russia is chock full of gas. Republicans will soon be denying the existence of Russia itself.
 
2022-05-26 2:48:54 PM  
Has there been any explanation of why it is that Russia is insisting that they be paid in rupples?

Is it to pay their army (there was a recording by someone complaining about being paid in dollars)

Is it because it gives them a chance to manipulate the price?

I would've thought they'd have wanted dollars so they could pay the debt that they've been trying to pay in rupples
 
2022-05-26 2:49:05 PM  

wage0048: Good.  Let them feed their population with it.


They're also full of grain.

The things they're net exporters of, is things they have.
 
2022-05-26 2:50:41 PM  

Super Chronic: Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!

Difficulty: Soros says Russia is chock full of gas. Republicans will soon be denying the existence of Russia itself.


Nah, they believe in Soros.

But now they'll be convinced that Russian gas is an elaborate plan to infect your baby with some sort of microchip that will turn you gay and/or liberal.
 
2022-05-26 2:51:54 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: wage0048: Good.  Let them feed their population with it.

They're also full of grain.

The things they're net exporters of, is things they have.


Their army could probably use some hardtack to go with their expired MREs, onions, and potatoes
 
2022-05-26 2:52:52 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.


Denmark, the Netherlands, and Germany has already agreed to build the big brother of the mother of all windmill parks West of the Danish coast.

So farking huge that there's concerns that it'll cause draught in Eastern Europe. You know, because, wind.

2035 though. Buts it's real.
 
2022-05-26 3:00:19 PM  
"Let's get in there and burn it!  Burn it all!  F*ck your children!  MUHUHAHAHAA", said the 91 year-old billionaire.
 
2022-05-26 3:06:12 PM  
I'd expect the actual Russian response to full-up gas reserves is to leave the wells running and just flare it off as it comes up. Because climate change isn't allowed in Russia.
 
2022-05-26 3:06:13 PM  
With sanctions cutting off western oil service companies that made Russia's extraction and refining operations run before this invasion, any glut will likely require some improvised on-site storage of combustible fluids. It's for the same reason why if there are problems with these storage solutions, any damage done to the surrounding infrastructure can't be easily fixed.

Ideally, the destruction of refining capacity by standard carelessness and corruption endemic in Putin's Russia would be helped along and compounded by Ukrainian action. Having enough of the equipment pumping Russia's petrochemical lifeblood go up in flames is one way that this war can end sooner rather than later. Unfortunately, with the exception of the Black Sea refining complexes, there are not many juicy targets anywhere near the Ukrainian border.
 
2022-05-26 3:11:19 PM  

IrieTom: "Europe should then impose hefty tax on gas imports so that the price to the consumer doesn't go down."

Heaven forbid that the consumers somehow avoid getting screwed.


well the first step is to stop subsidizing gas and oil industries with tax dollars.
 
2022-05-26 3:12:00 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: All true, but what is Soros' angle?


SOSHALIZM!!!
 
2022-05-26 3:14:02 PM  

Super Chronic: Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!

Difficulty: Soros says Russia is chock full of gas. Republicans will soon be denying the existence of Russia itself.


Unlikely.  Many Republicans already admire Putin for turning Russia into a capitalist wet dream, so having (((Soros))) publicly come out against him will only make them love him even more.
 
2022-05-26 3:14:03 PM  

Oneiros: Has there been any explanation of why it is that Russia is insisting that they be paid in rupples?

Is it to pay their army (there was a recording by someone complaining about being paid in dollars)

Is it because it gives them a chance to manipulate the price?

I would've thought they'd have wanted dollars so they could pay the debt that they've been trying to pay in rupples


Russia has been shut out of trading in USD.
 
2022-05-26 3:15:39 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: IrieTom: "Europe should then impose hefty tax on gas imports so that the price to the consumer doesn't go down."

Heaven forbid that the consumers somehow avoid getting screwed.

I understand the logic of this.

Make the gas too cheap, and the general public are less likely to support eliminating the dependency on gas from Russia.


exactly.  they need russia because it is convenient.  russia needs them because building new pipelines takes time and money they don't have.   it's easy to figure out who has the real leverage.  gas might be more expensive in the short term but it'll become much cheaper shortly there after and you'll have kneecapped your biggest foreign threat.
 
2022-05-26 3:31:17 PM  

Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!


But Russia doesn't contain the 4th item that we like to invade over. Brown people.
 
2022-05-26 3:38:25 PM  

MythDragon: Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!

But Russia doesn't contain the 4th item that we like to invade over. Brown people.


You just have to go a little further East for them
 
2022-05-26 3:55:55 PM  
Just walk away
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2022-05-26 3:57:35 PM  

Oneiros: Ketchuponsteak: wage0048: Good.  Let them feed their population with it.

They're also full of grain.

The things they're net exporters of, is things they have.

Their army could probably use some hardtack to go with their expired MREs, onions, and potatoes


It's not the most fun food in its basic form.

Boil it with gas and its gruel?
 
2022-05-26 4:10:20 PM  

Oneiros: Has there been any explanation of why it is that Russia is insisting that they be paid in rupples?

Is it to pay their army (there was a recording by someone complaining about being paid in dollars)

Is it because it gives them a chance to manipulate the price?

I would've thought they'd have wanted dollars so they could pay the debt that they've been trying to pay in rupples


They're trying to prop up the value of the ruble.
 
2022-05-26 5:59:16 PM  

MythDragon: Oysterman: C'mon, Republicans.  Chock full of gas, weapons of mass destruction, and terrorism!  Those are your favorite things to invade over!

But Russia doesn't contain the 4th item that we like to invade over. Brown people.


But there *are* Asian people.

Russia pretends to be European, but most of it is in Asia.

We could make this like Vietnam, or Korea... or um...

What was that adage?

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2022-05-26 6:24:49 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.


The only renewable energy plant that I am aware of is burning wood.  They are costly and are not very environmentally friendly.
Unless you are referring to solar or wind, they are very unreliable.
 
2022-05-26 6:48:54 PM  

zeaper12: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

The only renewable energy plant that I am aware of is burning wood.  They are costly and are not very environmentally friendly.
Unless you are referring to solar or wind, they are very unreliable.


Hydroelectric and geothermal, in some locations.

Nuclear power is not renewable but it is carbon-free and there's enough "spent" LWR fuel to run a fleet of more efficient reactors for a long time without any new uranium mining. It would represent a net reduction in the amount of high-level waste persisting into the far future, as fission fragments decay faster than actinide waste.
 
2022-05-26 7:10:17 PM  

zeaper12: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

The only renewable energy plant that I am aware of is burning wood.  They are costly and are not very environmentally friendly.
Unless you are referring to solar or wind, they are very unreliable.


Any and all renewal energy should be considered and funded, including geothermal and hydro. Unreliable doesn't mean it should be ignored, it can be supplanted with other energy sources instead of going "Well, just keep drilling until New Jersey is underwater!"
 
2022-05-26 9:28:27 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: zeaper12: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

The only renewable energy plant that I am aware of is burning wood.  They are costly and are not very environmentally friendly.
Unless you are referring to solar or wind, they are very unreliable.

Any and all renewal energy should be considered and funded, including geothermal and hydro. Unreliable doesn't mean it should be ignored, it can be supplanted with other energy sources instead of going "Well, just keep drilling until New Jersey is underwater!"


But how do we get rid of Florida if we can't drown it?
 
2022-05-26 9:35:25 PM  

Mad_Radhu: DarkSoulNoHope: zeaper12: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

The only renewable energy plant that I am aware of is burning wood.  They are costly and are not very environmentally friendly.
Unless you are referring to solar or wind, they are very unreliable.

Any and all renewal energy should be considered and funded, including geothermal and hydro. Unreliable doesn't mean it should be ignored, it can be supplanted with other energy sources instead of going "Well, just keep drilling until New Jersey is underwater!"

But how do we get rid of Florida if we can't drown it?


There's other solutions:

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2022-05-27 12:50:16 AM  

trerro: DarkSoulNoHope: How about we put more money into renewable energy plants and technology so we don't need natural gas from countries that try to use fossil fuels as a hostage.

Pretty much every country that isn't the US is doing exactly that, many with a goal data to be done with fossil fuels for good. The US isn't because of one political party.


I've been looking into solar for my house, so I can at least be somewhat energy independent if I couple it with an electric car.  Looks like $60K installed.
 
2022-05-27 6:55:11 AM  
Russia lacks flexibility in its gas storage and does not have the means to divert gas from Europe to, for example, Asia due to a lack of pipeline infrastructure.

Obviously.  After all, if Russia did had pipes connecting to China then China would already have troops in Moscow by now.
 
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