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2022-05-26 12:00:14 AM  
I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.
 
2022-05-26 12:02:05 AM  

I Like Bread: I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.


Maybe they wont shoehorn too hard....
 
2022-05-26 12:06:20 AM  

frankb00th: I Like Bread: I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.

Maybe they wont shoehorn too hard....


You'll pay for all of Disney+, but you'll only need the edge.
 
2022-05-26 12:37:24 AM  
Can Star Wars be an event if we get it so frequently?
 
2022-05-26 1:16:24 AM  
All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi
 
2022-05-26 1:23:36 AM  
I'm more than ready to retire from Star Wars, but I am back on board this time for Darth Vader.
 
2022-05-26 1:33:18 AM  

ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi


10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.
 
2022-05-26 1:37:43 AM  
All I need to know is that strutting is dumb.

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2022-05-26 1:46:48 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.


I'm sorry, did you watch the movies? There were 4, 2 evil, 2 good by the end there was 1 Luke. Now, every show has more Jedi then ever.
 
2022-05-26 2:21:06 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.


Considering that The Force is a precognitive, telekinetic function, it sure seems like quite the asshole.
 
2022-05-26 2:25:41 AM  

ReaverZ: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

I'm sorry, did you watch the movies? There were 4, 2 evil, 2 good by the end there was 1 Luke. Now, every show has more Jedi then ever.


Which exact shows?

Rebels had Kanan Jarrus, who survived Order 66 as a padewan, Ezra, his padewan who would have been an infant at that time, and Ahsoka, who is no Jedi.

Ahsoka and Luke are the only ones who appeared on The Mandalorian and Boba Fett.

So where are these "more Jedi than ever?"
 
2022-05-26 2:26:53 AM  
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2022-05-26 3:04:33 AM  

I Like Bread: I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.


The Boba Fett plotlines... err, not the Power Rangers shiat but just staying on Tattoine and such would have been better for Obi Wan. You know, because that's what he was actually doing for years. And then Boba Fett in his series should have gotten the fark out of there asap.

But Disney is just making content. Their approach to the trilogy showed they really didn't care, and now they're just churning it out. Got to keep those streaming numbers up.
 
2022-05-26 3:12:40 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

Considering that The Force is a precognitive, telekinetic function, it sure seems like quite the asshole.


Looking at the (current) timeline as a whole and the concept of The Living Force...

A strong argument can be made that there is a repeating cycle where the Jedi/Light Side becomes so monolithic, complacent, and institutional, that the Force decides to 'clean house' every so often. The Sith/Dark Side is allowed to rise up and decimate the Jedi/Light Side, only for the Jedi/Light Side to recover, supposedly with better insight about what went wrong and the dangers of staticism, only for those lessons to be lost to time and the cycle repeats.

The Force created Anakin. It hid the rise of Palpatine from the Jedi Council (Mace acknowledges that the Council was no longer able to anticipate the rise of the Dark Side). It sent visions of Shmi's pain to spur Anakin to action. Then it helps shield Luke and Leia fron being sensed by Vader until it needs him to start turning back to the Light.
 
2022-05-26 3:19:05 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: PartTimeBuddha: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

Considering that The Force is a precognitive, telekinetic function, it sure seems like quite the asshole.

Looking at the (current) timeline as a whole and the concept of The Living Force...

A strong argument can be made that there is a repeating cycle where the Jedi/Light Side becomes so monolithic, complacent, and institutional, that the Force decides to 'clean house' every so often. The Sith/Dark Side is allowed to rise up and decimate the Jedi/Light Side, only for the Jedi/Light Side to recover, supposedly with better insight about what went wrong and the dangers of staticism, only for those lessons to be lost to time and the cycle repeats.

The Force created Anakin. It hid the rise of Palpatine from the Jedi Council (Mace acknowledges that the Council was no longer able to anticipate the rise of the Dark Side). It sent visions of Shmi's pain to spur Anakin to action. Then it helps shield Luke and Leia fron being sensed by Vader until it needs him to start turning back to the Light.


So the Force is using sapients to toy with each other as it continues to evolve.

Sinister (X-Men) indeed.
 
2022-05-26 3:40:47 AM  
Still taking bets on Disney pointl

I Like Bread: I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.


Still betting that Disney is gonna pointlessly shoehorn The Mandalorian into this series the same way they did with Boba Fett due to the fact that Obi-Wan's girlfriend was the Duchess of Mandalore, and her sister was made ruler of Mandalore by the Jedi before the Empire took it over. The timeline adds up to where we could potentially see the Great Purge and have it explained to us why Obi-Wan's Girlfriend's Sister needs to fight Baby Yoda's Daddy for the throne in The Mandalorian Season 3.
 
2022-05-26 7:16:19 AM  
There's always one more Jedi that slipped through the cracks. There must have been thousands wandering around, thinking they were the only one while saving and changing lives on every planet they came to
 
2022-05-26 8:28:46 AM  

ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi


Ten thousand to a very tiny fraction of that seems pretty successful to me. And what is even more important is that the survivors are in hiding and thus very rarely can do anything coordinated. Thus they can be hunted down one by one.  Indeed the Emperor would have won if he had not gotten cocky and leaked the location of DS2 and the shield generator to the Rebellion. There was no need to be in a hurry.
 
2022-05-26 8:53:42 AM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Can Star Wars be an event if we get it so frequently?


You'll consume Product and you'll like it, peon!!!
 
2022-05-26 9:25:35 AM  
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2022-05-26 9:53:31 AM  

I Like Bread: I'm not sure I want to watch a man being a self-exiled hermit for 15 years until the events of Episode 4...

Huh, what's that? They're shoehorning an action plot into the lore for the sole purpose of squeezing more cash out of the Star Wars corpse? In that case I'm absolutely sure I don't want to watch.


I'd watch a Yoda-in-exile series.  Make it like the old Hulk tv show. He'd bounce from planet to planet helping the locals, but he has to use the Force to do it.  When they find out who he is he has to move on before the Empire catches up.

/bonus points if they have sad piano music
// Make me angry, do not
/// Like me when angry am I, you would not
 
2022-05-26 10:04:26 AM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Can Star Wars be an event if we get it so frequently?


Disney knows Star Wars is dead.  Their content is crap, and the toxic attitudes of their creative team drove the fans away.

Without fans they are relying on general audiences, and general audiences don't care about anything more than last-week old.  It takes a few years to get the next movie ready, so they have to keep releasing crappy smaller shows every month to maintain interest. Keeps the franchise on the evening news, in the twitter trending, and on the youtube main page.

They're like 5 Minute Crafts.  They're not trying to tell a story, they're producing content to manipulate the Algorithm.
 
2022-05-26 12:03:54 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

Considering that The Force is a precognitive, telekinetic function, it sure seems like quite the asshole.


I mean, the core issue with this is the unwarranted presumption that the Force would be on the side of the Jedi.  the Force isn't the Light Side.  It's also the Dark Side.  Both, at once.  And we're coming off 1000 years of the Jedi mass-genociding anyone not "light-sided" enough for them, the Jedi stealing kids to pad their ranks, the Jedi casually mind-raping anyone who interfered with them, etc.  The Jedi were kinda terrible.

More on the topic of Obi-Wan, I'm hoping they dig into the negatives.  Ewan Mcgregor is charming as hell, but let's recall that A> it was his failure as a teacher that led to his own Padawan becoming Darth Vader, and B> he lied his absolute frickin' ass off to Luke at every single opportunity.  Alec Guiness' portrayal has been really poorly served by the prequel content, since it all turns that Obi-Wan into a liar who did as little as possible to prepare Luke for what was coming, but still chose to set him on that course regardless.

I don't mean make him a villain, but he's a flawed individual, and I'm hoping they go more gray with the character than they have in the past.
 
2022-05-26 12:18:09 PM  
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2022-05-26 12:37:42 PM  

Endus: PartTimeBuddha: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

Considering that The Force is a precognitive, telekinetic function, it sure seems like quite the asshole.

I mean, the core issue with this is the unwarranted presumption that the Force would be on the side of the Jedi.  the Force isn't the Light Side.  It's also the Dark Side.  Both, at once.  And we're coming off 1000 years of the Jedi mass-genociding anyone not "light-sided" enough for them, the Jedi stealing kids to pad their ranks, the Jedi casually mind-raping anyone who interfered with them, etc.  The Jedi were kinda terrible.

More on the topic of Obi-Wan, I'm hoping they dig into the negatives.  Ewan Mcgregor is charming as hell, but let's recall that A> it was his failure as a teacher that led to his own Padawan becoming Darth Vader, and B> he lied his absolute frickin' ass off to Luke at every single opportunity.  Alec Guiness' portrayal has been really poorly served by the prequel content, since it all turns that Obi-Wan into a liar who did as little as possible to prepare Luke for what was coming, but still chose to set him on that course regardless.

I don't mean make him a villain, but he's a flawed individual, and I'm hoping they go more gray with the character than they have in the past.


Wow, you just stumbled onto why the prequels were awful and ruined the series past the point of no return
 
2022-05-26 12:43:23 PM  

ng2810: Still betting that Disney is gonna pointlessly shoehorn The Mandalorian into this series the same way they did with Boba Fett due to the fact that Obi-Wan's girlfriend was the Duchess of Mandalore, and her sister was made ruler of Mandalore by the Jedi before the Empire took it over. The timeline adds up to where we could potentially see the Great Purge and have it explained to us why Obi-Wan's Girlfriend's Sister needs to fight Baby Yoda's Daddy for the throne in The Mandalorian Season 3.


Yes but you're talking to different timelines.
The Obi-Wan show takes place between three and four.
Boba Fett/the Mandalorian takes place after six.
So the events of the Mandalorian will not have happened yet on the show.

I don't doubt that Bo Katan will show up in this, foreshadowing her later appearance on the Mandalorian but....
 
2022-05-26 3:39:05 PM  

buntz: ng2810: Still betting that Disney is gonna pointlessly shoehorn The Mandalorian into this series the same way they did with Boba Fett due to the fact that Obi-Wan's girlfriend was the Duchess of Mandalore, and her sister was made ruler of Mandalore by the Jedi before the Empire took it over. The timeline adds up to where we could potentially see the Great Purge and have it explained to us why Obi-Wan's Girlfriend's Sister needs to fight Baby Yoda's Daddy for the throne in The Mandalorian Season 3.

Yes but you're talking to different timelines.
The Obi-Wan show takes place between three and four.
Boba Fett/the Mandalorian takes place after six.
So the events of the Mandalorian will not have happened yet on the show.

I don't doubt that Bo Katan will show up in this, foreshadowing her later appearance on the Mandalorian but....


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"The only record of my family name, was on the Registers of Mandalore"

The Mandalorian himself would be a teenager during the time of the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. Also, just because we won't see Din Djarin in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series doesn't mean they're gonna somehow forcibly tie in the show to The Mandalorian. Maybe Kenobi is the reason Bo-Katan survives the purge?
 
2022-05-26 3:58:21 PM  

ReaverZ: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

I'm sorry, did you watch the movies? There were 4, 2 evil, 2 good by the end there was 1 Luke. Now, every show has more Jedi then ever.


The only rule is that Luke has to be the last one left by the time of Yoda's death in ROTJ, as he tells Luke this. And even that one may be flexible.
 
2022-05-26 4:42:02 PM  
Anakin was the one prophecied to bring balance to the force, and with the help of Palpatine he did so.  By the end there were three of each. Ben, Ezra, and Luke on one side, Siddious, Vader, and Maul on the other, with Ahsoka in the middle as a force wielder that wasn't Jedi or Sith.

/Balance does not mean good, no matter what Lucus would try to say.
 
2022-05-26 4:59:03 PM  

Fireproof: The only rule is that Luke has to be the last one left by the time of Yoda's death in ROTJ, as he tells Luke this. And even that one may be flexible.


It's a matter of semantics.

Luke was the last trained by a Jedi to be a Jedi.

But it doesn't mean that there aren't hundreds or thousands of people that have the Force and just aren't exactly sure how to use it.
 
2022-05-26 5:08:43 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: But Disney is just making content. Their approach to the trilogy showed they really didn't care, and now they're just churning it out. Got to keep those streaming numbers up.


If Disney stopped making Star Wars content, Fark would have to shut down the Entertainment tab and the thread shiatters would have to move on to another site.
 
2022-05-26 5:17:41 PM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Can Star Wars be an event if we get it so frequently?


Wait until you see the Andor series trailer.
 
2022-05-26 6:56:27 PM  
I'm going to watch this, but how they're going to make 15 years of hermitage incredible is beyond me...

Day 9805: I used the force on some Jawas today to get an upgrade to my food processor. Now the blue milk tastes better.

Day 12901: Luke is hanging out with a bad crowd. They've given him the nickname Wormie and I'm afraid he's been using worm spice. Lars refuses to listen, just spends all day complaining about the moisture.

Day 16045: Laundry.
 
2022-05-26 7:01:23 PM  

AtomPeepers: I'm going to watch this, but how they're going to make 15 years of hermitage incredible is beyond me...

Day 9805: I used the force on some Jawas today to get an upgrade to my food processor. Now the blue milk tastes better.

Day 12901: Luke is hanging out with a bad crowd. They've given him the nickname Wormie and I'm afraid he's been using worm spice. Lars refuses to listen, just spends all day complaining about the moisture.

Day 16045: Laundry.


So,...Fark with fewer moobs.
 
2022-05-26 7:21:26 PM  

Ravage: Anakin was the one prophecied to bring balance to the force, and with the help of Palpatine he did so.  By the end there were three of each. Ben, Ezra, and Luke on one side, Siddious, Vader, and Maul on the other, with Ahsoka in the middle as a force wielder that wasn't Jedi or Sith.

/Balance does not mean good, no matter what Lucus would try to say.


If you pay attention, Ahsoka was the representative of the Light/Good side of the Force after the Clone Wars/Leaving the Jedi Order, not the Jedi themselves, as evidenced by the Morai bird (associated with the Daughter in the Mortiss/Force family) following her.

Oh, and Maul was dead before the end, killed by Kenobi several years before A New Hope.
 
2022-05-26 8:29:19 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Ravage: Anakin was the one prophecied to bring balance to the force, and with the help of Palpatine he did so.  By the end there were three of each. Ben, Ezra, and Luke on one side, Siddious, Vader, and Maul on the other, with Ahsoka in the middle as a force wielder that wasn't Jedi or Sith.

/Balance does not mean good, no matter what Lucus would try to say.

If you pay attention, Ahsoka was the representative of the Light/Good side of the Force after the Clone Wars/Leaving the Jedi Order, not the Jedi themselves, as evidenced by the Morai bird (associated with the Daughter in the Mortiss/Force family) following her.

Oh, and Maul was dead before the end, killed by Kenobi several years before A New Hope.


Sorry, I missppke. I meant Ben, Kanan, and Luke. And I meant by the end of RotS and the Ani to Vader transition.
Although you could say Ben, Kanan, and Ahsoka as Luke was just a baby and at that point Leia had as much potential as him.
 
2022-05-26 9:34:02 PM  
The Force had different paths for each of the surviving Jedi and the Force-sensitives they trained.

Caleb Dume/Kanan Jarrus' path was to prevent the introduction of the TIE Defender into the Galactic Civil War. If He had not done so, the Empire would have kicked the Rebels' asses in every conflict without question. The TIE Defender would have won the war for the Empire. Kanan made sure that never happened. That, and training Ezra, were the full extent of his path in the Force.

Ezra Bridger's path was to liberate Lothal from the Empire (one of the first major victories against an Imperial occupying force) and to remove Thrawn from the battlefield for the remainder of the Galactic Civil War. If Ezra hadn't removed Thrawn from the equation, his superior tactical talents would have turned the Battle of Scarif in the Empire's favor, and the Death Star Plans would never have reached Leia. In fact, Thrawn would likely have killed or captured Leia in that battle. Luke would never be drawn into the war. The Empire would win.

Luke's path was ultimately to sway Anakin to turn back to the light and destroy that version of Palpatine, ending the Galactic Civil War and significantly weakening Sidious and his efforts despite numerous clones (Snoke and several failed versions prior to Snoke, as well as Palpatine's clone "son" who somehow managed to not grow up to be like his estranged, believed-to-be-dead "father", though not Force-sensitive himself, and gave birth to Rey.)

Luke also brought Han, Leia, Chewbacca, R2, 3PO, and Lando together. Their effect on the Rebellion was incalculable. Certainly, the Force wanted them to meet and be such a positive force in the Galaxy.

Incidentally, both Yoda and Obi-Wan thought Luke's destiny was to kill Sidious and Vader. Luke stepped away from the thing they were training and urging him to do and followed his own path. It was attachment and love that won the day and turned Vader, bringing Anakin's story full circle and proving the doctrines of the old Jedi Order were wrong. Luke succeeded BECAUSE of attachments, not despite them. Eschewing family and attachments was the sort of dogmatic hubris that caused the Jedi to fall. Having someone to fight for is what made Luke's victory possible.

Obi-Wan's path was to protect Luke, and eventually get him to Yoda. He was also instrumental in events on Mandalore, though whether or not that was the will of the Force or not remains to be seen.

Ahsoka's path is a bit less clear. I think we're going to see that her path eventually leads to some major events with Ezra and Thrawn. She's still wandering... Still very much a ronin.
 
2022-05-26 11:38:35 PM  

Fireproof: ReaverZ: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: ReaverZ: All I learned is Order 66 did a pretty crap job of killing all the Jedi

10,000 Jedi and not all of them were hanging around the temple or near clone troopers. And it wouldn't be completely unimaginable that The Force itself would help a few of them survive.

I'm sorry, did you watch the movies? There were 4, 2 evil, 2 good by the end there was 1 Luke. Now, every show has more Jedi then ever.

The only rule is that Luke has to be the last one left by the time of Yoda's death in ROTJ, as he tells Luke this. And even that one may be flexible.


yeah, I thought about it. It just means they all kill themselves except for the final four. Turns out
Star Wars is actually a Highlander sequels

/ just grousing about a trope
// I'm going to watch it of course
 
2022-05-27 4:17:17 AM  
Just watched the first two episodes.

Sweet Xenu, but Leia is almost as annoying as Jar Jar...
 
2022-05-27 7:13:15 AM  
Watched the first trailer.  Watched them introduce three new Dark Jedi characters in a time frame where both Darth Sidious and Darth Vader are still alive.

Thus the Sith's legendary and canonical  "Rule of Two" has now been tossed out the window in favor of Disney's Rule of "Fark The Lore, Let's Just Make Up Random Crap As We Go Along."


I hope whoever green-lit this idiotic miniseries dies of rectal cancer. Slowly.

The Holdo Maneuver, but it's Lore Accurate
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