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2022-05-26 12:16:02 AM  
You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.
 
2022-05-26 12:17:59 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


All water is potable if you have a big enough bucket.
 
2022-05-26 12:18:00 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


Not in California.
 
2022-05-26 12:20:10 AM  
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Damn Sandtrout.
 
2022-05-26 12:21:33 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


You'd have to prove the briny water discharge won't impact the environment.

/briny water
//discharge
 
2022-05-26 12:24:10 AM  
Sad Californians turn their air conditioning to 70, while they look out the picture window and watch their grass die.
 
2022-05-26 12:28:49 AM  
And we've tried everything.   How could nature betray us like this?

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2022-05-26 12:30:51 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


I don't think we are lacking drinking water.

We probably shouldn't desalinate sea water to irrigate our lawns or flush our toilets. That might not be the best use of resources.
 
2022-05-26 12:33:15 AM  
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2022-05-26 12:34:44 AM  

Ivo Shandor: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

Not in California.


Not in *Orange County*, we've got a working desal plant here in San Diego county.  I think we'll be fine statewide in regards to residential use.  Long term, ag and industrial/commercial use is a bigger problem.

Especially in ag, we grow some water hungry crops here that people really really want and need because of our plantable latitudes. You can have lettuce in January because we grow that in Calexico.  And the Central Valley is fantastic for veg and fruit in general.

But if things get just a teensy bit warmer and the rainfall/snowpack pattern shifts, we're simply f*cked.  Basically you'll need replant everything northwards.  For yearly crops that's not so bad, but for tree crops or grape vines that's a huge deal.  Some trees don't produce well until they've been growing in at least 5 years.

/You can grow okay pinot noir grapes in Washington State now.  This wasn't a thing 30 years ago.
 
2022-05-26 12:35:06 AM  

wildcardjack: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

You'd have to prove the briny water discharge won't impact the environment.

/briny water
//discharge


Killing marine life is kind of a big deal, since people eat seafood.

Besides, there were other reasons for rejecting that Poseidon plant in Orange County:

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2022-05-12/poseidon-desalination-project
 
2022-05-26 12:39:19 AM  
If its brown, heel it down?

/sorry
 
2022-05-26 12:39:27 AM  

cryinoutloud: Sad Californians turn their air conditioning to 70, while they look out the picture window and watch their grass die.


I don't have AC (never have, actually), I just open the windows and run a fan maybe 10 days out of the year.  I don't run the heater in the winter either, as it's been busted for years.  Just put on a sweatshirt and thick socks, you won't die.

The people 20 miles inland, though? HVAC queens.
 
2022-05-26 12:42:06 AM  

fragMasterFlash: If its brown, heel it down?

/sorry


Ah, the ol' 'Waffle Stomp'

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2022-05-26 12:48:11 AM  
Gonna do a major remodel on my house soon. Going to hook the pipes up for grey water. Not very expensive if you do it while your walls and floor are open.
 
2022-05-26 12:56:40 AM  
Enjoy fresh fruit this year
 
2022-05-26 12:57:02 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


It now seems as if you can grab lots of water from the air itself.
 
2022-05-26 12:58:06 AM  

watching the trump puddle dry: Enjoy fresh fruit this year


And make sure you have enough food to survive a winter
 
2022-05-26 1:00:02 AM  

Bonzo_1116: Ivo Shandor: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

Not in California.

Not in *Orange County*, we've got a working desal plant here in San Diego county.  I think we'll be fine statewide in regards to residential use.  Long term, ag and industrial/commercial use is a bigger problem.

Especially in ag, we grow some water hungry crops here that people really really want and need because of our plantable latitudes. You can have lettuce in January because we grow that in Calexico.  And the Central Valley is fantastic for veg and fruit in general.

[snip]


Not any more.
 
2022-05-26 1:14:48 AM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

All water is potable if you have a big enough bucket.


PAIGE NO
 
2022-05-26 1:35:16 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


At an absolutely insane energy cost.
 
2022-05-26 1:37:46 AM  

Spermbot: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

It now seems as if you can grab lots of water from the air itself.


But I have to go to Toshi Station to get those power convertors.
 
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2022-05-26 1:38:43 AM  
Going to have to go with water collection stuff or desalination.  Honestly the sooner folks secure drinking water for the coastal cities without relying on rivers the better everyone will be
 
2022-05-26 1:39:19 AM  
End golf course maintenance, lawn watering and almond growing.   Problem solved.
 
2022-05-26 1:43:45 AM  

Road_King: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

At an absolutely insane energy cost.


It's not insane. It's the cost of survival in a world where the cheaper sources have dried up. If you don't like the cost then you need to either stop using water or figure out cheaper ways of obtaining that energy. Hint: the sun provides a lot of it for free. There's also a huge amount sitting around in "spent" fuel from light-water nuclear reactors, available for extraction in different reactor types.
 
2022-05-26 2:03:55 AM  
The obvious solution is to import more people and grow more almonds in the desert.
 
2022-05-26 2:08:53 AM  
What THE fark is it with people watering grass lawns in the bleeding desert???? if you are so anal about your yard looking "nice" do some desert landscaping.
 
2022-05-26 2:17:26 AM  
After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.
 
2022-05-26 2:22:15 AM  

Trik: The obvious solution is to import more people and grow more almonds in the desert.


Did you have a plan for using those people?

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2022-05-26 2:22:27 AM  

Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.


It took you 40 years to grow up?
 
2022-05-26 2:26:59 AM  
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2022-05-26 2:31:10 AM  

Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.


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2022-05-26 2:32:15 AM  

cyberspacedout: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

It took you 40 years to grow up?


Yeah dude. It took me 40 years to grow up.
Asshat.

I had a great paying job for 20 years and a great place, but unfortunately my health took a turn for the worst. Now I live in the interior of Alaska with plenty of water and way less people. SoCal just keeps building and building. I needed a change.  I have a beautiful cabin outside of Fairbanks, and zero neighbors for ¼ mile.
I have moose meat in my freezer, my own greenhouse, and beautiful scenery.  Enjoy your lower 48 problems.
 
2022-05-26 2:32:44 AM  

Maynotlast: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

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You can also suck my ass.
 
2022-05-26 2:33:42 AM  

Maynotlast: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

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Why? Because I moved out of California I'm a c*nt?
 
2022-05-26 2:41:02 AM  
But won't anyone think of the almond growers? Each almond that goes into the almond "milk" latte uses about a gallon of water to grow. Growing almonds should be banned in California.
 
2022-05-26 3:06:37 AM  
Ugh
Many Californians don't have ac
Or lawns
Almonds are one of our biggest exports. We need that money to buy more water
 
2022-05-26 3:08:20 AM  

Spermbot: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

It now seems as if you can grab lots of water from the air itself.


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2022-05-26 3:14:26 AM  

ng2810: Spermbot: dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.

It now seems as if you can grab lots of water from the air itself.

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In all seriousness though, we should really start investing in moisture farms with the same zeal that we did with solar and wind farms. I look out of my window at that damn marine layer and think "What a darn shame. If only we can harvest that water from the air. Bonus will be more sunny days at the beach and more water for everyone."

/What happens when the marine layer clears up?
//You See LA
///I'll see myself out.
 
2022-05-26 3:21:47 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


Just because you got banned from the club for being a cheapskate don't mean we ain't making it rain.
 
2022-05-26 3:47:33 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


My large Cal city makes potable water from sewer water and has been for decades. They sell it back to golf courses and other businesses. They aren't putting it in percolation ponds yet to recharge aquifers, but that will happen soon. Recycling sewage water is cheaper than desalination and has less effect on the environment. We make it rain every time we flush the toilet (low flow) in my city.
 
2022-05-26 3:53:39 AM  

Badafuco: Maynotlast: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

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Why? Because I moved out of California I'm a c*nt?


Your silence is deafening, you adorable little c*nt.
 
2022-05-26 4:25:16 AM  

dkimball: You can't grow water, or make it rain, but you can make potable water from sea water.


True, but you have to do something with the highly Saline byproduct left over, and the easiest solution is to dump is back into the ocean.

Which causes hell in the ecosystem where that discharge is.
 
2022-05-26 4:27:59 AM  
Problem with desalination is most the water needs in CA are for crops and desalination (even ignoring environmental problems of the brine) is it very expensive to produce, mainly from energy usage.  The costs are somewhere between $3-4 per 1000 gallons and this doesn't include much of the other infrastructure needed to get water to where to go.  Now this may not sound like a lot but agriculture uses a lot of water, an acre of lettuce uses about 100,000 gallons of water, right now that cost is about $300 (according to UC Davis)  with desalination it would cost 10x more.
 
2022-05-26 4:44:55 AM  

hlehmann: But won't anyone think of the almond growers? Each almond that goes into the almond "milk" latte uses about a gallon of water to grow. Growing almonds should be banned in California.


I was wondering about this almond milk phenomenon.
I can't help but think it takes an insane number of almonds (and therefore H2O) to make a half gallon of that stuff.
 
2022-05-26 4:50:34 AM  

cyberspacedout: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

It took you 40 years to grow up?


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2022-05-26 5:15:00 AM  

Badafuco: cyberspacedout: Badafuco: After growing up in Ventura, CA for 40 years, moving out of that state three years ago was my best decision.

It took you 40 years to grow up?

Yeah dude. It took me 40 years to grow up.
Asshat.

I had a great paying job for 20 years and a great place, but unfortunately my health took a turn for the worst. Now I live in the interior of Alaska with plenty of water and way less people. SoCal just keeps building and building. I needed a change.  I have a beautiful cabin outside of Fairbanks, and zero neighbors for ¼ mile.
I have moose meat in my freezer, my own greenhouse, and beautiful scenery.  Enjoy your lower 48 problems.


Calling people asshats while simultaneously "fark you I got mine" ing them is not the edgy stand you think it is. Just sayin'
 
2022-05-26 6:15:22 AM  
almost like Lake Powell and Lake Mead drying up has consequences for people who depend on that water. couldn't possibly be climate change though *eye roll*.
I feel bad and all but since SoCal is married to its cars this is a problem of their own making. it was a stupid idea to build a city in the desert.
 
2022-05-26 6:16:40 AM  
Another layer of the regulations presented Tuesday included banning irrigation of non-functional turf, which is turf that's not being used for recreational purposes or for community events, but it doesn't apply to sports fields.

And there you have it.

The golf course exemption.

Can't upset the wealthy, you know.  They're you best donors, Mr Politician.
 
2022-05-26 7:37:31 AM  
Have they banned sod farms, golf courses, or agriculture yet? No? 'Cause household use won't do enough
 
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