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2022-05-25 9:46:15 AM  
I bring people joy and laughter as my force and nobody appreciates it.
 
2022-05-25 10:03:02 AM  
Wouldn't Force Push/Pull be the most powerful?  Yoda made it clear that the size of the object is irrelevant.  In Force Unleashed (which was canon until it wasn't), you took down a Star Destroyer.  I'm sure Yoda could drop a farking moon if he was so inclined.
 
2022-05-25 10:14:03 AM  

NeoCortex42: Wouldn't Force Push/Pull be the most powerful?  Yoda made it clear that the size of the object is irrelevant.  In Force Unleashed (which was canon until it wasn't), you took down a Star Destroyer.  I'm sure Yoda could drop a farking moon if he was so inclined.


Considering how insane the fans are, we know it isn't Mind Trick.
 
2022-05-25 10:14:26 AM  

NeoCortex42: Wouldn't Force Push/Pull be the most powerful?  Yoda made it clear that the size of the object is irrelevant.  In Force Unleashed (which was canon until it wasn't), you took down a Star Destroyer.  I'm sure Yoda could drop a farking moon if he was so inclined.


Doesn't that fall under telekinesis?

Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself is conspicuously absent from this list.

So is Ren's ability to stop a blaster bolt in mid-air, although that may also qualify as telekinesis (not sure, since none of this stuff is, you know, real).
 
2022-05-25 10:22:10 AM  
Merchandising!
 
2022-05-25 10:24:49 AM  
What force abilities weren't on that list?
 
2022-05-25 10:30:32 AM  

Darth Funjamin: NeoCortex42: Wouldn't Force Push/Pull be the most powerful?  Yoda made it clear that the size of the object is irrelevant.  In Force Unleashed (which was canon until it wasn't), you took down a Star Destroyer.  I'm sure Yoda could drop a farking moon if he was so inclined.

Doesn't that fall under telekinesis?

Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself is conspicuously absent from this list.

So is Ren's ability to stop a blaster bolt in mid-air, although that may also qualify as telekinesis (not sure, since none of this stuff is, you know, real).


Username checks out.
 
2022-05-25 10:30:39 AM  

Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?


Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself
 
2022-05-25 10:33:59 AM  
Plot armor?
 
2022-05-25 10:40:54 AM  
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2022-05-25 10:44:59 AM  
Most Force powers require  in space and time.

I would say precognition is the potentially most powerful and most criminally underutilized power.  Just a touch of it makes you a master swordsman, able to deflect blaster bolts.

But you can also see much further into the future, and as you change your plans those visions will adjust accordingly.  In essence, you can get a mulligan by simply not following through on plans that give you visions of the future you don't like.
 
2022-05-25 10:53:39 AM  
My favorite abilities in the force unleashed and other SW games was to force choke someone into the air, move then over one of the many non OSHA approved pits o doom, let them dangle for long enough to realize how farked they are, and then drop them.

In one of the Force games there is an area where TIEs are zooming right by a walk way. I'd dangle troopers out in the fight path and giggle with glee as they slammed right into a TIE  cockpit.

Also found out you could bend girders out into the flight path to the dismay of many a pilot
 
2022-05-25 11:20:10 AM  

MythDragon: My favorite abilities in the force unleashed and other SW games was to force choke someone into the air, move then over one of the many non OSHA approved pits o doom, let them dangle for long enough to realize how farked they are, and then drop them.

In one of the Force games there is an area where TIEs are zooming right by a walk way. I'd dangle troopers out in the fight path and giggle with glee as they slammed right into a TIE  cockpit.

Also found out you could bend girders out into the flight path to the dismay of many a pilot


It was at that point the Empire started a study on whether spacecraft need windshield wipers.
 
2022-05-25 11:29:20 AM  
Techincally the most powerful is only from the old republic era, ala Reven age. The emperor in tht era could absorb the life force of an entire planet to strengthen himself and add centuries to his lifespan. Considering it required dozens of other participants to complete the ritual it doesnt really count too well.

If you go to the basics listed it all depends on how well you master them. TK is always poorly used in movies and books because its completely broken as an ability if you really master it (rip someones arteries and they die in seconds), but almost anything can be that strong if you master it completely
 
2022-05-25 11:39:30 AM  

lifeslammer: Techincally the most powerful is only from the old republic era, ala Reven age. The emperor in tht era could absorb the life force of an entire planet to strengthen himself and add centuries to his lifespan. Considering it required dozens of other participants to complete the ritual it doesnt really count too well.

If you go to the basics listed it all depends on how well you master them. TK is always poorly used in movies and books because its completely broken as an ability if you really master it (rip someones arteries and they die in seconds), but almost anything can be that strong if you master it completely


I always figured part of the force training was devoted to keeping your body and saber in check from TK attacks.  Because otherwise their opponent could turn off their lightsaber during mid strike, or the guts thing.
 
2022-05-25 11:44:50 AM  
I dunno about the strongest but the weakest is definitely that force push thing that doesn't seem to work on catwalks against any bad guy with a name.
 
2022-05-25 11:54:35 AM  
I liked the force better when it was more of an abstract concept instead of Jedi whirling around and acting like Superman cosplayers.

/get off my lawn
 
2022-05-25 11:56:50 AM  
I really enjoyed holding people in place and stabbing them with my lightsaber in Fallen Order.
 
2022-05-25 11:58:15 AM  
TK in any setting is terrifyingly and hilariously overpowered, if the user is clever.
You don't need to put any real strength behind it, either.

Just enough to, say, pull the trigger on someone else's gun.
While it's holstered, sure. Or maybe during a tense stand off.

Then there's the "pulling the pin on someone else's grenade" trick.

Dungeon masters/Game-masters, a word of advice: allow your players have TK in your campaigns at your own risk. Especially if that player is me.
 
2022-05-25 11:59:38 AM  
Jedi Outcast/Academy - flinging people off cliffs or tossing their missiles back at them.
 
2022-05-25 12:10:41 PM  

lifeslammer: If you go to the basics listed it all depends on how well you master them. TK is always poorly used in movies and books because its completely broken as an ability if you really master it (rip someones arteries and they die in seconds), but almost anything can be that strong if you master it completely


Courtship of Princess Leia had the villain actually do something like this to Luke. Tore Luke's brain up in a few places, and the narration reflected it as he pretty much went from "Oh shiat this lady is gonna kill me" to "me lose brain, uh oh" in a matter of seconds. He gets better though. Later on she starts shattering Han's teeth and bones one by one before a healed-up Luke comes charging in to save the day in the Falcon
 
2022-05-25 12:20:53 PM  

Darth Funjamin: Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?

Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself


I always assumed that was part of the force lightening ability, a Light Side variant that's not aggressive.
 
2022-05-25 12:25:39 PM  

zeroflight222: lifeslammer: Techincally the most powerful is only from the old republic era, ala Reven age. The emperor in tht era could absorb the life force of an entire planet to strengthen himself and add centuries to his lifespan. Considering it required dozens of other participants to complete the ritual it doesnt really count too well.

If you go to the basics listed it all depends on how well you master them. TK is always poorly used in movies and books because its completely broken as an ability if you really master it (rip someones arteries and they die in seconds), but almost anything can be that strong if you master it completely

I always figured part of the force training was devoted to keeping your body and saber in check from TK attacks.  Because otherwise their opponent could turn off their lightsaber during mid strike, or the guts thing.


I think the general idea of training was: Feel the force in yourself, be able to extend your awareness outside your body, feel the force outside your body. After that you would begin to figure out how to manipulate it in all of its flavors to find out which ones you were good at and what you were crap at (like how Corran Horn couldnt use TK to save his life, but was very good at absorb). Then you would have to manipulate things while doing other things to learn how to multitask.

Combat was always about fighting in the moment as well as in the future. Zhan had the best description of it I ever read, where you had a second sight while fighting and would see the shadow of the future move before the move actually happened. If you were fighting a normie thats not too bad, but if you are doing jedi fights than it would get confusing as hell really fast as you each react to the shadow you are seeing and thus change the shadow, so while fighting most of your mental energy is focused on that second sight being used to your advantage, meaning you dont have much left to use TK on something. True and complete mastery of even one ability in the force would take decades
 
2022-05-25 12:33:42 PM  
If we're talking about KOTR, I'd say running and hiding behind crates.
 
2022-05-25 12:33:49 PM  

Darth Funjamin: Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?

Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself


That's because he's a big part of the resistance.
 
2022-05-25 12:48:34 PM  

Madeup Farkname: TK in any setting is terrifyingly and hilariously overpowered, if the user is clever.
You don't need to put any real strength behind it, either.

Just enough to, say, pull the trigger on someone else's gun.
While it's holstered, sure. Or maybe during a tense stand off.

Then there's the "pulling the pin on someone else's grenade" trick.

Dungeon masters/Game-masters, a word of advice: allow your players have TK in your campaigns at your own risk. Especially if that player is me.


Allow? It's right there as a cantrip. Granted, Mage Hand is limited to five pounds but anyone who can't think of plenty of creative uses has no business playing a spellcaster.
 
2022-05-25 12:48:51 PM  
Bleh, written by someone who went to to a ScreenRant listicle and hasn't read a Star Wars comic/novel in their worthless life. Back during Sith Empire/Old Rep Republic times galaxy had mo'fukas blowing suns or unleashing force storms that would raze whole systems
 
2022-05-25 12:52:28 PM  

Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?


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2022-05-25 1:09:09 PM  

Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?


Psychometry. Rey gets the vision inThe Force Awakens when she touches Luke's  (Anakin's) lightsaber.
 
2022-05-25 1:11:10 PM  

Aquapope: Darth Funjamin: Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?

Yoda's ability to absorb force lightning apparently without harm to himself

I always assumed that was part of the force lightening ability, a Light Side variant that's not aggressive.


Well, Electric Judgment...which is now a legend.
 
2022-05-25 1:12:40 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?

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Yah, whatever the Fark that was. Some serious Bodhisattva-level shiat.
 
2022-05-25 1:12:59 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Most Force powers require  in space and time.

I would say precognition is the potentially most powerful and most criminally underutilized power.  Just a touch of it makes you a master swordsman, able to deflect blaster bolts.

But you can also see much further into the future, and as you change your plans those visions will adjust accordingly.  In essence, you can get a mulligan by simply not following through on plans that give you visions of the future you don't like.


It's a reading nuance, but unless you lean really hard into it in a movie, like the recent Dune was able to with the personal force fields, it's just fancy fight choreography.

Conversely, to stay on thread topic, I do retroactively enjoy people who biatch about force healing, yet thought the Ren freezing a plasmabolt mid air was kick-ass. And the subsequent hoop jumping that one power isn't really new while the other was. A spacehip is heald together by welds and bolts. A piece of conduit and rocks is a solid object. A plasmabolt frozen IN TIME is holding it together with no disipation of heatlosses and form, all the molecules.

It's space magic, we all got over force lighting 40 years ago. Cry harder.
 
2022-05-25 1:39:17 PM  
Probably battle meditation.  Or that thing where you drain somebody else's life force.  Or maybe precognition.  I don't know.
 
2022-05-25 2:07:45 PM  
If I had Force Choke, I'd never leave my bunk.
 
2022-05-25 2:53:33 PM  
Force teleportation. You could fling the hearts of stars into the center of your enemies' lairs and whoosh, problem solved. Or at the very least drop a bunch of bombs. Rey could have solved the whole NuEmpire problem without ever leaving the couch.
 
2022-05-25 4:21:51 PM  
Force Forgetting.

Using that one nifty trick once and only once, and then, never speaking of it ever again.
 
2022-05-25 5:03:44 PM  

Joe Stapler: Probably battle meditation.  Or that thing where you drain somebody else's life force.  Or maybe precognition.  I don't know.


Battle Meditation was stupid. Clones with superfluous vowels were also stupid
 
2022-05-25 8:21:51 PM  

Somacandra: Chemlight Battery: Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?

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Yah, whatever the Fark that was. Some serious Bodhisattva-level shiat.


Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.
And she's weightless. A non-force-user would need heavy equipment to mimic Yoda's telekinesis trick, but Leia's would basically require a well-aimed fart.
No idea why hers is considered more impressive/unlikely, except that the staging makes it look goofy.
/to be fair, she briefly survives an extreme environment at the same time, but that seems like pretty basic Jedi shiat
 
2022-05-25 9:31:06 PM  
What's the Force ability for convincing all civil engineers to never build railings on any station, base, or starship?
 
2022-05-25 10:40:47 PM  

Aquapope: What force abilities weren't on that list?


Force farting.
 
2022-05-26 7:26:17 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.


Yet no Jedi or Sith has ever figured this out.  They can boost a jump by quite a bit, but they never fly.  Except Leia in space.  She did it.

Based on what we've seen, a Jedi should be able to fly wherever they like.  Up, down, sideways... whatever.
 
2022-05-26 8:58:31 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.

Yet no Jedi or Sith has ever figured this out.  They can boost a jump by quite a bit, but they never fly.  Except Leia in space.  She did it.

Based on what we've seen, a Jedi should be able to fly wherever they like.  Up, down, sideways... whatever.


"Flying" is a lot farking easier when you don't have any gravity getting in your way. People--regular real-world humans--can "fly" in zero-G with a little puff of air. A Jedi can't do it with the Force?

Also this is a sci-fi universe where they usually have incredibly fast and agile ships and speeders and such; there's little reason for a Jedi to spend time learning how to do imaginary forklift levitation unless he's planning to go to the temple Halloween party as Luke's x-wing.
 
2022-05-26 9:25:27 AM  
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2022-05-26 4:02:11 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.


That's if Force grabbing is like attaching a psychic rope onto something. But not if it's the traditional concept of telekinesis where you can move other objects but not yourself. Levitation doesn't always go hand in hand with telekinesis.

But the Leia Poppins scene took something that was best left as a vague question and confirmed it: Jedi can move themselves as well as other stuff, which means you're right. They should be able to strike a pose and goofily fly around like Magneto. Or whip out invisible Force tendrils and swing around cities like Spider-Man. Or at the very least do hover kicks like Trinity. They should have imposed a rule that they can't float themselves nor can they move anything they're standing on or inside, but it's too late now.
 
2022-05-26 8:03:04 PM  

EdgeRunner: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.


That's if Force grabbing is like attaching a psychic rope onto something. But not if it's the traditional concept of telekinesis where you can move other objects but not yourself. Levitation doesn't always go hand in hand with telekinesis.



Well, the Leia scene left a rather large out for anyone who doesn't like it: just because someone can exert a tiny, tiny force to move herself slowly over short distances in frictionless zero-G (or a guy falling from a speeder on Coruscant can adjust his trajectory a bit more than normal, or a dude can fling himself unnaturally high in the air), it doesn't necessarily follow that Jedi can go full Magneto or Spidey. Maybe moving yourself is just exponentially harder than moving other shiat.
 
2022-05-26 9:13:24 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: EdgeRunner: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Telekinesis. If you can pull a ship to you, you can pull yourself to a ship.


That's if Force grabbing is like attaching a psychic rope onto something. But not if it's the traditional concept of telekinesis where you can move other objects but not yourself. Levitation doesn't always go hand in hand with telekinesis.


Well, the Leia scene left a rather large out for anyone who doesn't like it: just because someone can exert a tiny, tiny force to move herself slowly over short distances in frictionless zero-G (or a guy falling from a speeder on Coruscant can adjust his trajectory a bit more than normal, or a dude can fling himself unnaturally high in the air), it doesn't necessarily follow that Jedi can go full Magneto or Spidey. Maybe moving yourself is just exponentially harder than moving other shiat.


Except one of the most famous quotes from the whole franchise is "Size matters not". There's no out there. A Jedi can lift an entire X-Wing in regular gravity. If they can also lift themselves, their bodyweight isn't a factor.

And even if they try explaining it as "No no, she wasn't moving herself. She was doing a Force push on her clothes or something", it still means Jedi can move themselves by moving something they're in contact with. So instead of free-flying like Superman, they can Force push their lightsabers and fly around like Yondu with his arrow.

We all know they'll probably "fix" this by just never speaking of it again, or saying "Yeah, that can't happen for... reasons" and then never speaking of it again, like Holdo's lightspeed kamikaze run.
 
2022-05-26 10:05:53 PM  

EdgeRunner: Except one of the most famous quotes from the whole franchise is "Size matters not". There's no out there. A Jedi can lift an entire X-Wing in regular gravity. If they can also lift themselves, their bodyweight isn't a factor.


Yeah, Jedi say a lot of rather questionable things.

But that's not what I'm getting at.

I'm saying that if an author wants to draw a qualitative difference in a magical telekinesis system between "own body" and "everything else," it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

The magical rule could be "you can exert almost no telekinetic influence on yourself," rather than "you can exert exactly zero telekinetic influence on yourself."

In certain very specific situations, this difference would matter. But mostly it would be negligible.

Anyway, that's how I'd "fix" it (if I thought it needed fixing).
 
2022-05-26 10:08:49 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: EdgeRunner: Except one of the most famous quotes from the whole franchise is "Size matters not". There's no out there. A Jedi can lift an entire X-Wing in regular gravity. If they can also lift themselves, their bodyweight isn't a factor.

Yeah, Jedi say a lot of rather questionable things.

But that's not what I'm getting at.

I'm saying that if an author wants to draw a qualitative difference in a magical telekinesis system between "own body" and "everything else," it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

The magical rule could be "you can exert almost no telekinetic influence on yourself," rather than "you can exert exactly zero telekinetic influence on yourself."

In certain very specific situations, this difference would matter. But mostly it would be negligible.

Anyway, that's how I'd "fix" it (if I thought it needed fixing).


The movies and shows are likely to just carry on without addressing it. But somebody's going to go nuts with it in a novel or comic book. Ancient Sith are going to be riding the wind like eagles.
 
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