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2022-05-24 3:27:48 PM  
I can't get into Western Walking Simulator (RDR2), I'll happily play DX again
 
2022-05-24 3:43:14 PM  
This is really tempting to reinstall if it means updating the graphics a bit to make it more playable.  I do have the GOTY version on disc, so patching it would definitely be in order.
 
2022-05-24 3:56:00 PM  
Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.
 
2022-05-24 4:01:58 PM  

the_rhino: I can't get into Western Walking Simulator (RDR2), I'll happily play DX again


No kidding. That game is so boring. Still, I'm more likely to replay one of the newer Deus Ex games than fart around with the original.
 
2022-05-24 4:10:32 PM  
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2022-05-24 4:12:56 PM  
Nah. Im going to preload sniper elite 5 instead
 
2022-05-24 4:26:21 PM  
Not sure I can find those floppies anymore. That was several lifetimes ago and long before I had a Steam account to curate my collection.
 
2022-05-24 4:28:37 PM  

stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.


Quite fun, if you're into that sort of thing (and I am). Surprisingly, it doesn't take a convoluted series of actions to do it, either. You just have to play with avoiding combat in mind.

Game holds up very well, provided you're not put off my old blocky graphics. (Early 3D has not aged nearly as well as 2D.)
 
2022-05-24 4:32:21 PM  
I still love the fact that my natural suspicions paid off and the game designers rewarded it.

When confronting the Russian business guy at his private jet hangar, something screamed ambush to me. So I set up a barricade of furniture leading into a tripwire bomb stack in the living room area before meeting the guy who surrenders and is going to tell you some more ...

Normally, the cyborg agent Anna comes in, running through the living room and confronts you at the door and kills him, or you're forced to kill her in a conversation. She's a boss-level baddie.

BUT

Since I planted a freakishly large bomb she couldn't avoid, BOOM. Anna is chrome parts on the floor with bits of furniture. And Russian guys says, "You did what you had to do." Which made me laugh. Even more that everyone else but nerd overseer thinks her death wasn't my fault -- for a while.

The other was listening to the Hong Kong actress woman who has the info on who's who in the city. She gives a good deal and situation speech, how to get some stolen sword from wherever and the deal with the criminals. It should be a mission set-up for a fetch dungeon. But something seemed off. So I just calmly walked behind her on the sofa and executed her with a back-of-the-head shot and KO'd the maid/bodyguard.

Wouldn't you know: she had the stolen sword and incriminating emails in her private bedroom and office. And I avoid a second boss fight.
 
2022-05-24 4:32:58 PM  
I don't think i ever played makind divided but human revolution wasn't a bad game either. Not as good as the original, obviously, but fun nonetheless.

hbomberguy's recent video on human revolution is well worth the 3 and a half hour investment/
 
2022-05-24 4:36:24 PM  

stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.


I've done Liberty Island several times without shooting, but not much more than that.  It's really quite fun figuring out how to clock a guy on the head or toss an exploding crate and duck fast so you don't get blowed up.  I couldn't play more than that without shooting because I love the sniping from the rooftops.

Deus Ex is never not installed and now I'm gonna go install this new stuff!  I'm pumped, cuz my good computer took a dive and I'm stuck on a older laptop.
 
2022-05-24 4:39:59 PM  

replacementcool: I don't think i ever played makind divided but human revolution wasn't a bad game either. Not as good as the original, obviously, but fun nonetheless.


Mankind Divided is a step down from Human Revolution, but I still enjoyed my time with it. The open world hub is a bit half-baked but showed some real potential (though it could also be tedious navigating it for the umpteenth time), and though the missions are a little uneven, there are one or two locations I still think about even years after playing it.

It goes on sale for next to nothing all the time. You should be able to snag it for under $10, maybe with the DLC.

I'd say it's worth any price under $15.
 
2022-05-24 4:42:50 PM  
I'm sure I had a digital copy of this somewhere.  It's not in my steam, gog, humble or epic libraries.  So I guess I don't.

It's on for a buck on steam right now, so I guess I now do...
 
2022-05-24 4:49:14 PM  
I remember playing that demo and being blown away. A year or so later I played the full version and it was pretty good.

I got bored during the pandemic and looked it up. It isn't just the age of the game, it's the thin story. It's basically shake and bake x-files conspiracies strewn over a cyberpunk future dystopia.

Then again, it feels just like any other Creation-engine powered game. It is groundbreaking in allowing the player to avoid boss fights, as well as the branching in some parts of it. Crazy stuff for 22 years ago.
 
2022-05-24 4:52:08 PM  

shoegaze99: replacementcool: I don't think i ever played makind divided but human revolution wasn't a bad game either. Not as good as the original, obviously, but fun nonetheless.

Mankind Divided is a step down from Human Revolution, but I still enjoyed my time with it. The open world hub is a bit half-baked but showed some real potential (though it could also be tedious navigating it for the umpteenth time), and though the missions are a little uneven, there are one or two locations I still think about even years after playing it.

It goes on sale for next to nothing all the time. You should be able to snag it for under $10, maybe with the DLC.

I'd say it's worth any price under $15.


I agree completely.

Mankind Divided is excellent if you commit to playing it as a stealth game and you commit to the challenge of eliminating every enemy in missions where you are in openly hostile areas. I had a hard time enjoying it on my first (attempted) playthrough, but giving myself that challenge elevated it. And like you said, there are a few missions that are excellent.
 
2022-05-24 4:55:18 PM  
BTW Deus Ex is 97 cents on both GoG and Steam till the end of the month.
 
2022-05-24 4:59:12 PM  

shoegaze99: replacementcool: I don't think i ever played makind divided but human revolution wasn't a bad game either. Not as good as the original, obviously, but fun nonetheless.

Mankind Divided is a step down from Human Revolution, but I still enjoyed my time with it. The open world hub is a bit half-baked but showed some real potential (though it could also be tedious navigating it for the umpteenth time), and though the missions are a little uneven, there are one or two locations I still think about even years after playing it.

It goes on sale for next to nothing all the time. You should be able to snag it for under $10, maybe with the DLC.

I'd say it's worth any price under $15.


I got Mankind Divided on Steam sale and it stopped loading in the hub city (on the way to the office).

Shiatty EA/Square Enix QA.

But it was strangely boring for a Deus Ex game, too. Hopefully the next computer can run it.
 
2022-05-24 5:01:48 PM  

stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.


Never played Dishonored, did you?
 
2022-05-24 5:09:44 PM  

Flappyhead: stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.

Never played Dishonored, did you?


For some damn reason I still haven't played Death of the Outsider, but the first two are some of the finest games I've ever played. The level design is beyond compare, especially D2. Just absolutely remarkable design work. The clockwork levels gets a lot of praise, for good reason, but it's the time-related level that most blew me away, as far as gimmicks are concerned.

And that only just scratches the surface. SO MANY of those locations are as memorable as any I've played. They're seared into my brain. Just brilliant stuff.

Plus the stories are pretty enjoyable, the worldbuilding is OUTSTANDING, the missions are generally good to great, their fast-paced take on stealth is super fun -- it's a blast blipping around from ledge to ledge evading enemies -- and if you want to go all-out murder hobo, it somehow turns out to be a great action game, too.
 
2022-05-24 5:26:42 PM  

shoegaze99: Flappyhead: stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.

Never played Dishonored, did you?

For some damn reason I still haven't played Death of the Outsider, but the first two are some of the finest games I've ever played. The level design is beyond compare, especially D2. Just absolutely remarkable design work. The clockwork levels gets a lot of praise, for good reason, but it's the time-related level that most blew me away, as far as gimmicks are concerned.

And that only just scratches the surface. SO MANY of those locations are as memorable as any I've played. They're seared into my brain. Just brilliant stuff.

Plus the stories are pretty enjoyable, the worldbuilding is OUTSTANDING, the missions are generally good to great, their fast-paced take on stealth is super fun -- it's a blast blipping around from ledge to ledge evading enemies -- and if you want to go all-out murder hobo, it somehow turns out to be a great action game, too.


Im pretty sure both are on games pass and i keep forgetting to grab them. i've never played but only ever heard good things about it.
 
2022-05-24 5:35:53 PM  

replacementcool: shoegaze99: Flappyhead: stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.

Never played Dishonored, did you?

For some damn reason I still haven't played Death of the Outsider, but the first two are some of the finest games I've ever played. The level design is beyond compare, especially D2. Just absolutely remarkable design work. The clockwork levels gets a lot of praise, for good reason, but it's the time-related level that most blew me away, as far as gimmicks are concerned.

And that only just scratches the surface. SO MANY of those locations are as memorable as any I've played. They're seared into my brain. Just brilliant stuff.

Plus the stories are pretty enjoyable, the worldbuilding is OUTSTANDING, the missions are generally good to great, their fast-paced take on stealth is super fun -- it's a blast blipping around from ledge to ledge evading enemies -- and if you want to go all-out murder hobo, it somehow turns out to be a great action game, too.

Im pretty sure both are on games pass and i keep forgetting to grab them. i've never played but only ever heard good things about it.


The story is very linear and it's area based but each mission is one giant sandbox to play in.  There's a dozen or more different ways to finish each section and all kinds of secrets to dig up.
 
2022-05-24 5:39:13 PM  
Mods, community things designed for free, being monetized by yet another group (I.E "news" articles like this) really peeves me. Write articles, don't just link creations from people for your paycheck.
 
2022-05-24 5:59:09 PM  

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I wonder did anyone ever make DX2 into a really playable game?  Given modern hardware it might be possible to play it without dying of boredom due to load screen overload, but hopefully someone has managed to fix all the crashes and stuff by now.
 
2022-05-24 6:40:26 PM  
Came here to say Revision, I see TFA actually got that right. So uh..well done.

Easy as hell too, you can install it straight through Steam these days. No need for mod farkery like the old days.
 
2022-05-24 7:59:02 PM  
God-is-a-Taco: Write articles, don't just link creations from people for your paycheck.

They did. It's not just a list of links, it's a 2,300-word article aimed at people who aren't plugged into the mod scene and who might want to play the game. They vet a number of key mods and explain what they do and why you should use them. They go over some basics on setup for modern systems, which is always useful for older games, and lay out some tips for new players, since it's a game with older mechanics.

It's all pretty helpful for anyone new to this stuff, and as this thread displays, it's piqued the interest of several people here. Sure seems like a worthwhile piece to me.
 
2022-05-24 8:04:01 PM  

Flappyhead: stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.

Never played Dishonored, did you?


That was also fun for complete passivity.  I honestly found it more satisfying.
 
2022-05-24 8:08:13 PM  
So, I finally caved and am relegating my 2008 rig to NAS duties. I had a bunch of Costco credit so I grabbed an on sale MSI box, since building one out right now is a PITA. I reinstalled Steam and my library is pretty bare: Half Life series, Bioshock series, some Wolfenstein and STALKER.  Running through Black Mesa now since I haven't gamed in 10 years and I didn't even remember my LH key bindings.  So what should I buy out there? Microsoft Flight Sim for sure, a driver and a shooter? Ideally it would be something in the vein of System Shock II or OG Deus Ex.
 
2022-05-25 12:07:06 AM  

drewogatory: So, I finally caved and am relegating my 2008 rig to NAS duties. I had a bunch of Costco credit so I grabbed an on sale MSI box, since building one out right now is a PITA. I reinstalled Steam and my library is pretty bare: Half Life series, Bioshock series, some Wolfenstein and STALKER.  Running through Black Mesa now since I haven't gamed in 10 years and I didn't even remember my LH key bindings.  So what should I buy out there? Microsoft Flight Sim for sure, a driver and a shooter? Ideally it would be something in the vein of System Shock II or OG Deus Ex.


If you're into the Aliens series Alien Isolation was always fun to watch.  It's not my type of game specifically but it's generally received good reviews, however I would wait till it's on sale it's a little older.

I'd also go back through the Friday Gaming Fark threads and definitely post in there this week.  You'll get a lot more recommendations there.   Maybe even a good suggestion topic for this weeks side discussion.
 
2022-05-25 1:07:33 AM  

drewogatory: So, I finally caved and am relegating my 2008 rig to NAS duties. I had a bunch of Costco credit so I grabbed an on sale MSI box, since building one out right now is a PITA. I reinstalled Steam and my library is pretty bare: Half Life series, Bioshock series, some Wolfenstein and STALKER.  Running through Black Mesa now since I haven't gamed in 10 years and I didn't even remember my LH key bindings.  So what should I buy out there? Microsoft Flight Sim for sure, a driver and a shooter? Ideally it would be something in the vein of System Shock II or OG Deus Ex.


Prey is System Shock 2's infatuated fan. Great homage.
 
2022-05-25 2:04:18 AM  

harleyquinnical: Flappyhead: stuhayes2010: Fun fact, you can beat that game without firing a shot. You can be completely passive.   I  don't know how much fun that would be.

Never played Dishonored, did you?

That was also fun for complete passivity.  I honestly found it more satisfying.


The most satisfying gaming moment for me in years was doing a no kill run with no powers on the highest difficulty.  Finished all the side quests too since you can use tranquilizers in the duel and against Granny Rags.
 
2022-05-25 3:12:55 AM  

mrparks: I remember playing that demo and being blown away. A year or so later I played the full version and it was pretty good.

I got bored during the pandemic and looked it up. It isn't just the age of the game, it's the thin story. It's basically shake and bake x-files conspiracies strewn over a cyberpunk future dystopia.

Then again, it feels just like any other Creation-engine powered game. It is groundbreaking in allowing the player to avoid boss fights, as well as the branching in some parts of it. Crazy stuff for 22 years ago.


What a shame.
 
2022-05-25 5:34:25 AM  
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NeedlesslyCanadian: Came here to say Revision, I see TFA actually got that right. So uh..well done.

Easy as hell too, you can install it straight through Steam these days. No need for mod farkery like the old days.


Agreed 100% and Revision is definitely worth it. Best Deus Ex Experience i have had in a long while.
 
2022-05-25 5:55:13 AM  
I had Deus Ex for MacOS 9.. and it was a bit much for my Performa 6400 with a Voodoo1 card.  I played through the Statue of Liberty area, and the base afterwards, but I don't remember getting much farther.

I remember being berated for killing too many people in that first area.. well, I only had so many stun baton charges, and I guess the hand crossbow with knockout toxin didn't count as non-lethal.
 
2022-05-25 6:15:36 AM  

Alphax: I had Deus Ex for MacOS 9.. and it was a bit much for my Performa 6400 with a Voodoo1 card.  I played through the Statue of Liberty area, and the base afterwards, but I don't remember getting much farther.

I remember being berated for killing too many people in that first area.. well, I only had so many stun baton charges, and I guess the hand crossbow with knockout toxin didn't count as non-lethal.


What i was unaware of at the time, was the standard Baton (not electric stunner) was also non lethal and usually one shotted enemies if you managed to sneak up behind.
 
2022-05-25 6:54:14 AM  
In my top-five surprising immersion experiences of gaming:

I was in one side of Notre Dame.  Running low on ammo, health, etc and trapped in the tower with lost of baddies below me blocking my path.  I climbed to the top windows looking for an "out".  I looked across at the other tower and realized it had a large window in the same location.  It dawned on me: I had upgraded my legs with the run/jump kit.  Stepping back, taking a deep breath and running for it I took a flying "matrix" leap from my tower, across the gap, through the window, and into the other tower.  On landing, I crashed into a couple of baddies and dispatched them.  My arms shot up in the air and I cheered.  Alone in my apartment.

One of my other moments was at the penthouse in Hing Kong, but that is a story for another day.

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2022-05-25 9:51:54 AM  
In Human Revolution, I've knocked out every single cop on particular map and occasionally boot it up just to walk the streets with all the sleeping policemen.
 
2022-05-25 11:14:46 AM  
Back when I played the game, I was sneaking around killing the "terrorists" in the first mission. I killed several people so far and was just about to kill another when he says "I'm so glad i get off shift in 5 minutes."

I couldn't bring myself to kill him.  Getting whacked right at the end of your day?  That's just evil. He was the only one I knocked out.
 
2022-05-25 12:51:55 PM  

Alphax: I had Deus Ex for MacOS 9.. and it was a bit much for my Performa 6400 with a Voodoo1 card.  I played through the Statue of Liberty area, and the base afterwards, but I don't remember getting much farther.

I remember being berated for killing too many people in that first area.. well, I only had so many stun baton charges, and I guess the hand crossbow with knockout toxin didn't count as non-lethal.


It does. Always has.
 
2022-05-25 1:09:41 PM  
I managed to bork  Deus Ex a couple times. Once when I was in the hotel leading to being arrested I bailed out the window and hid in the ducts in the subway. When they sent the NPC to round me up I managed to kill her, but then I was stuck with no way to progress. And I killed the chick on the plane a couple times to similar effect, although I don't think that one played out for another level or two.
 
2022-05-25 1:21:22 PM  

drewogatory: I managed to bork  Deus Ex a couple times. Once when I was in the hotel leading to being arrested I bailed out the window and hid in the ducts in the subway. When they sent the NPC to round me up I managed to kill her, but then I was stuck with no way to progress. And I killed the chick on the plane a couple times to similar effect, although I don't think that one played out for another level or two.


Not borked in either case....

For the first one, all you have to do is die. Doesn't matter how, you'll wake up in the next mission.

For the second, that's not borked, it's perfectly doable and incorporated into the story if you kill Anna. It's not a major game changing event, but it changes a few lines of dialogue and you don't fight her later. That's all.
 
2022-05-25 1:38:26 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: drewogatory: I managed to bork  Deus Ex a couple times. Once when I was in the hotel leading to being arrested I bailed out the window and hid in the ducts in the subway. When they sent the NPC to round me up I managed to kill her, but then I was stuck with no way to progress. And I killed the chick on the plane a couple times to similar effect, although I don't think that one played out for another level or two.

Not borked in either case....

For the first one, all you have to do is die. Doesn't matter how, you'll wake up in the next mission.

For the second, that's not borked, it's perfectly doable and incorporated into the story if you kill Anna. It's not a major game changing event, but it changes a few lines of dialogue and you don't fight her later. That's all.


She was a lot easier to kill in the plane for sure IIRC. I actually haven't played since it was new, maybe I'll hit up Revision since I had fun with Black Mesa.
 
2022-05-25 5:13:14 PM  
A lot of people don't know this about the original Deus Ex, but it's possible to save your brother. You have to exit the hotel by the front door (if you exit via window, he dies). This means defeating the enemies. Knock out the two civvies on the second floor and put them out of harm's way. Set up just about every trap you have along the corridor from the stairs to the room your brother is in. Get out that big ass shotgun and have the conversation that triggers the enemies entering the hotel. Should be a cake walk.
 
2022-05-25 11:41:47 PM  

drewogatory: NeedlesslyCanadian: drewogatory: I managed to bork  Deus Ex a couple times. Once when I was in the hotel leading to being arrested I bailed out the window and hid in the ducts in the subway. When they sent the NPC to round me up I managed to kill her, but then I was stuck with no way to progress. And I killed the chick on the plane a couple times to similar effect, although I don't think that one played out for another level or two.

Not borked in either case....

For the first one, all you have to do is die. Doesn't matter how, you'll wake up in the next mission.

For the second, that's not borked, it's perfectly doable and incorporated into the story if you kill Anna. It's not a major game changing event, but it changes a few lines of dialogue and you don't fight her later. That's all.

She was a lot easier to kill in the plane for sure IIRC. I actually haven't played since it was new, maybe I'll hit up Revision since I had fun with Black Mesa.


Strong recommend. I always have fun replaying DX, but Revision manages to pull off feeling both familiar and fresh. The expanded Wan Chai market in particular feels like a 'this is what it should have been' revelation (and more than makes up at how frustrated I got at getting lost in the expanded Hell's Kitchen, ha)
 
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