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2022-05-24 1:49:18 PM  
"I'm not even supposed to be here, I'm retired"
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2022-05-24 1:49:36 PM  
Good for them! They hit a banker's dozen a little while ago.
 
2022-05-24 1:53:27 PM  
I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.
 
2022-05-24 1:54:57 PM  
Putin is running out of generals and field commanders.
Not to mention tanks, fuel, food, ammo, artillery, aircraft....
 
2022-05-24 1:55:13 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


Was.
 
2022-05-24 1:56:07 PM  
If only their hats were larger
 
2022-05-24 1:56:47 PM  
This is a strange one in that they got some last minute video of him before his plane went down.

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2022-05-24 1:57:15 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


They're running out of experienced commanders.  If I had a guess, they're dragging people from retirement because they're not green.  So sure, they may be top heavy.  But they're useless.
 
2022-05-24 1:57:52 PM  
I guess one could say that he retired again.adjective: retired1. having left one's job and ceased to work.
 
2022-05-24 1:58:31 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.

Was.


Point taken.
 
2022-05-24 1:58:32 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


With those hats, sure...
 
2022-05-24 1:58:39 PM  
Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake baker's man

Bake me a general as fast as you can

Slap it and prick it and mark it with "Z"

Put it in the airplane for Ukraine and me
 
2022-05-24 1:58:40 PM  
"Retired Russian Air Force Major General Banamat Botashev, 63, has become the 13th general to die ..."

Damn, they are so short on pilots they're recalling Retirees?

If that's the case Ukraine should be on the lookout for a gold-plated MiG, it's only a matter of time before Putin gets hands-on
 
2022-05-24 1:58:43 PM  
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2022-05-24 2:00:00 PM  

inner ted: If only their hats were larger


Lil' Kim knows the value of large hats.

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2022-05-24 2:00:28 PM  
The only thing more evil than the Russian military are their mercenary lackies... especially those in the Wagner group.

Seriously, how can you NOT be a Nazi with a name like that?

Putin admires Hitler ALMOST as much as he admires Stalin.
 
2022-05-24 2:00:44 PM  
Big silly hats are targets.
 
2022-05-24 2:01:23 PM  
It was not clear why Botashev was involved in the war after his retirement, but the BBC quoted his former subordinates saying he probably "just couldn't stay on the sidelines." He may also have been sent to Ukraine as part of a recruiting initiative for the Wagner group, a private military contractor linked to Russia's Defense Ministry and reportedly the Kremlin.

Came out of retirement to participate in this garbage. Good riddance.
 
2022-05-24 2:02:16 PM  
Is there an age limit on fighter pilots?
 
2022-05-24 2:02:24 PM  
His hat can fly all by itself.

The top part spins and it moves like a helicopter according to Ukrainian intelligence.
 
2022-05-24 2:02:40 PM  

gameshowhost: Big silly hats are targets.


Men Without Hats can dance if they want to.
 
2022-05-24 2:04:06 PM  

inner ted: If only their hats were larger


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2022-05-24 2:05:20 PM  
Wagner recruiting effort?
Like this?
Ride of the Valkyries - Apocalypse Now (3/8) Movie CLIP (1979) HD
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2022-05-24 2:05:55 PM  
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2022-05-24 2:06:21 PM  

inner ted: If only their hats were larger


Needs more medals
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2022-05-24 2:07:08 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "Retired Russian Air Force Major General Banamat Botashev, 63, has become the 13th general to die ..."

Damn, they are so short on pilots they're recalling Retirees?

If that's the case Ukraine should be on the lookout for a gold-plated MiG, it's only a matter of time before Putin gets hands-on


Yeah, the subtext on this one is fascinating, and grim for the Russians unless I'm missing something. There's barely any active fighter pilots in the USAF older than 60, and the FAA mandatory retirement age is 65 (I think? they were talking about raising it?).  It'd be one thing if this guy were killed in some kind of a command aircraft downed at altitude behind the lines, but if the article is true he was killed in an SU-25 (the Russian equivalent of the A-10), down in the mud after making two attack runs. That's an assignment for guys in their 20's and 30's.  Maybe early 40's if you want someone with 20 years flying experience for a really tricky assignment.

But to bring an AARP member out of retirement and throw him into that position?  It makes NO sense unless you're doing it for PR, to boost morale in a demoralized flying unit, or because you've lost so many combat-qualified pilots in that aircraft you don't have a choice.

None of these scenarios are good for the Russians.

Which is awesome.
 
2022-05-24 2:07:42 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


Very much so

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2022-05-24 2:08:56 PM  
Wompski, wompski
 
2022-05-24 2:09:00 PM  

gameshowhost: Big silly hats are targets.


 I forget the name of the 'law' but apparently a good rule of thumb is that the side withe most blinged out officers at the start of the war is going to lose.

Found it.
Tv Tropes for the win

In a conflict between two armies with uniforms, all other things being equal, the guys with the more elaborate uniforms will lose."
 
2022-05-24 2:11:32 PM  

Walker: "I'm not even supposed to be here, I'm retired"
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Dude's hat is so big I'm wondering if Putin is turning Korean:
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2022-05-24 2:14:09 PM  

WillofJ2: Is there an age limit on fighter pilots?


I don't know that there's a technical legal limit, but it might be the same as the FAA age limit for pilots.  I know they let Chuck Yeager take the controls on a couple of anniversary flights into his 80's, but I don't know if they'd let a pilot who got past the FAA retirement age go up solo.

In practice, the realities of promotion make it hard to keep flying in the regular AF past your late 40's. You need to be good enough on the AF politics side of things to get promoted into a command billet in a flying unit, but not so good that someone tags you to come to the Pentagon and fly a desk for the remainder of your career.   Some guys can transition into ANG units in command roles, but there aren't a lot of them.
 
2022-05-24 2:18:59 PM  

LesserEvil: The only thing more evil than the Russian military are their mercenary lackies... especially those in the Wagner group.

Seriously, how can you NOT be a Nazi with a name like that?

Putin admires Hitler ALMOST as much as he admires Stalin.


Equating Wagner to the Nazis is stupid AF.

Seriously, the guy was a gifted musician and composer, and you would have one single super-fan who was born 6yrs after his death define him? FFS, get a grip

I suppose Bugs Bunny is also a Nazi
 
2022-05-24 2:21:05 PM  
Good. Fuck Russia.
 
2022-05-24 2:24:25 PM  

Walker: "I'm not even supposed to be here, I'm retired"
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2022-05-24 2:27:54 PM  
Pretty easy to shoot down aircraft, SU-25

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2022-05-24 2:32:16 PM  
13? Got a ways to go before they get close to Papa Joe's record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Red_Army_Purge
 
2022-05-24 2:32:54 PM  

tasteme: Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake baker's man

Bake me a general as fast as you can

Slap it and prick it and mark it with "Z"

Put it in the airplane for Ukraine and me


Stupid war criminals still haven't figured out what the 'Z' actually signifies.

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2022-05-24 2:36:37 PM  

inner ted: If only their hats were larger


even given that military hats seem to be comically large, that hat is comically large.
 
2022-05-24 2:38:38 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


The Dolly Parton of world militaries...
 
2022-05-24 2:39:55 PM  

johnny queso: inner ted: If only their hats were larger

even given that military hats seem to be comically large, that hat is comically large.


It's a Russian sombrero.
 
2022-05-24 2:40:13 PM  
I was just thinking, Ukraine has killed a lot of Russian Army Generals, and a Russian Navy Admiral, but they haven't killed any Russian Air Force Generals yet that I can recall.  It would be nice to fill out and get some representation from all of Russia's branches of the armed forces.
 
2022-05-24 2:41:05 PM  
Retired Air Force Major General Banamat Botashev, 63, is thought to have joined the war as part of a recruiting initiative by Wagner or another military group.

They have mercenaries flying jets?  Jesus
 
2022-05-24 2:41:46 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


Not as much as it used to be
 
2022-05-24 2:43:23 PM  

SpectroBoy: inner ted: If only their hats were larger

Needs more medals
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Pretty sure some of those medals are repeats. They look like they come from the same factory that makes Christmas ornaments.
 
2022-05-24 2:47:30 PM  

DrWhy: Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.

The Dolly Parton of world militaries...


Except everybody loves Dolly.
 
2022-05-24 2:49:24 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.


Was
 
2022-05-24 2:51:19 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Weatherkiss: I'm guessing the russian military is very top heavy.

Very much so

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Ok I do have a problem if we're spending this much money killing them.  A mimosa and a shopping spree are a lot cheaper.  Totally works on the one I live with.  War averted!

Complicating this, is the knowledge that this is the larval form of an unstoppable force.  One of these, and it's over:

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2022-05-24 2:53:36 PM  
Even if things ever return to some sense of normalcy I can't imagine a world where these idiots don't get laughed out of every room they walk into that involve peers from other countries.

It makes more sense now why any time their officers can find a reason to come stateside all they care about is shopping. Maybe you assholes should worry more about fighting, I dunno.
 
2022-05-24 2:53:39 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: LesserEvil: The only thing more evil than the Russian military are their mercenary lackies... especially those in the Wagner group.

Seriously, how can you NOT be a Nazi with a name like that?

Putin admires Hitler ALMOST as much as he admires Stalin.

Equating Wagner to the Nazis is stupid AF.

Seriously, the guy was a gifted musician and composer, and you would have one single super-fan who was born 6yrs after his death define him? FFS, get a grip

I suppose Bugs Bunny is also a Nazi


No, but he was German, and popular with the Third Reich, and their propaganda, even though there is no indication that Wagner would have wanted anything to do with Nazis, had he still been alive.

However, the Russians did not pick the name Wagner, because they liked his music.  They picked the name, because like many American mercenary groups, they are compost largely of right wing fascists with Nazi sympathies.  They obviously wanted something that would honor the German Nazi movement, without being directly tied to Hitler, because that would not be a good look for Russians.
 
2022-05-24 2:54:27 PM  

Two16: inner ted: If only their hats were larger

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If you hit them in succession it plays the nbc jingle
 
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