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2022-05-24 11:22:48 AM  
I had to have only liquid prior to my colonoscopy. Wasn't much of an ordeal, as it was, but of course I did not have to deal with it for a week.
Clear chicken broth actually fills you up pretty well. And if you can have Jello, that's also pretty satisfying.
Sprite.Diet Sprite is pretty good and drink enough of it and you'll feel full.
It shouldn't be too bad, I'd say.
 
2022-05-24 11:24:56 AM  
listen to your doctor and nutritionist.  last thing you want to do is go through the process and not make the progress you wanted.  also you don't want to be in anymore pain then you have to.
 
2022-05-24 11:27:53 AM  
It killed me. It was worse than the time I was beaten to death in middle school.
 
2022-05-24 11:28:46 AM  

Subtonic: It killed me. It was worse than the time I was beaten to death in middle school.


Killed you until you died from it?
 
2022-05-24 11:30:17 AM  
i only drink beer
 
2022-05-24 11:40:06 AM  

saintstryfe: Subtonic: It killed me. It was worse than the time I was beaten to death in middle school.

Killed you until you died from it?


I got better.
 
2022-05-24 11:45:48 AM  
A few years back, I had to do a liquid diet for 10 days for an endoscopy. (I'd done a liquid diet for two days before, but once they got the scope in there my stomach wasn't empty, so I had to do it all over again.) After having been discouraged to eat ice cream and being on water restrictions for various kinds of dialysis for the previous couple years, I was looking forward to having nothing but ice cream and other liquids.

It wears thin. I hadn't realized before how much the texture of food matters. Liquids have no crunch, no chew, no tear. By the third day I was thinking of all the things I wanted to eat but couldn't. I started keeping lists of things I wanted, and ranking them, so that my first sold meal would be all the things I'd been missing.

I decided on Chinese spare ribs as they include the crisp and chewy textures of the grilled meat, the sensation of tearing the meat off the bone, and finally the resilient chew.

This spring I was at a Zoom meeting and for a warmup exercise you had to vote on whether you'd rather spend a year eating pizza or ice cream. Pizza, for sure.

Good luck on the surgery. Don't skimp on the getting up and walking around after, it really helps with recovery.
 
2022-05-24 11:47:07 AM  
Remember:  tequila is a liquid.  So is vodka.
 
2022-05-24 12:34:01 PM  
Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.

Feel free to email me to talk: spawn_of_cthulhu at  ultrafark dot com.
 
2022-05-24 12:35:29 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: I had to have only liquid prior to my colonoscopy. Wasn't much of an ordeal, as it was, but of course I did not have to deal with it for a week.
Clear chicken broth actually fills you up pretty well. And if you can have Jello, that's also pretty satisfying.
Sprite.Diet Sprite is pretty good and drink enough of it and you'll feel full.
It shouldn't be too bad, I'd say.


Even if you can't have gelled Jello, you may be able to have gelatin (dispersed in something hot without letting it set up into Jello).  I found it was a nice way to give something like broth a bit of substance and some protein.

/needs something strong like broth to cover up the boiled bones taste of unflavored gelatin
 
2022-05-24 12:41:14 PM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.


This right here.  I lost a sh*t ton of weight the old-fashioned way (with Smith Barney), but I worked with a woman who had bariatric surgery, lost all the weight, but didn't learn a damn thing.  She ended up putting most of it back on again.  And for those who think it's not possible:

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-to-keep-the-weight-off-after-bariatric-surgery/
However, Dr. Craggs says those are exceptions. "In the majority of cases, weight regain is diet-related."
 
2022-05-24 1:10:54 PM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.


I'm not a fat dude, but a "fit" guy with high blood sugar (hovering around pre-diabetic). This guy speaks truth. I'm in great shape, but sugar is my kryptonite.

It's going to be hard, but put down the waffle cone. Your body will thank you.
 
2022-05-24 1:12:37 PM  
I would be dead in three days on a liquid diet. I've done the one day thing many times for my (seems like countless) colonoscopies, and those are killers.

All I can suggest is broth and lots of it. I actually preferred the beef version. Best of luck on the outcome.
 
2022-05-24 1:25:36 PM  
I have no advice for you, subby, but I do have a joke.  Tell it to your doctors and nurses.

Q:  What's the difference between a colonoscope and and endoscope?
A:  The taste!
 
2022-05-24 2:32:03 PM  
Ass said above, listen to the nutritionist. Avoid sugar as if it was poison.

With that said....

If the prospect of being on a liquid diet for a few days is so dire, maybe the bariatric surgery is NOT for you.

I am nearing my two year anniversary for gastric sleeve, lost 100 pounds, but not done yet. You MUST change your relationship to food. Every scoop of ice cream will make it all the more difficult to reach daily protein/veggie/fiber goals.
 
2022-05-24 2:40:36 PM  

The Weekend Baker: Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.

This right here.  I lost a sh*t ton of weight the old-fashioned way (with Smith Barney), but I worked with a woman who had bariatric surgery, lost all the weight, but didn't learn a damn thing.  She ended up putting most of it back on again.  And for those who think it's not possible:

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-to-keep-the-weight-off-after-bariatric-surgery/
However, Dr. Craggs says those are exceptions. "In the majority of cases, weight regain is diet-related."


I asked my doctor about it.  He said it was a 50/50 chance that it'll work.  Had a cousin that got it and it worked for a bit but all came back.

/There's no quick fix for stopping being a fatass.  I lost 50 lbs in 6 months with Noom and it took two years of lockdown (and making sourdough bread) for it to all come back.
 
2022-05-24 2:55:28 PM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.

Feel free to email me to talk: spawn_of_cthulhu at  ultrafark dot com.


First, not dude.

Second, I was joking. But I appreciate the thought. I'm not going to skimp. I've prepped and planned everything I'll be putting into my body detailed to day with the plan they gave me. I'm not cheating, just asking if anyone had any advice on how to handle it.
 
2022-05-24 3:09:57 PM  
Low fat milk, a dollop of peanut butter, and a banana, all blended up with a little Hershey's syrup, is yummy and filling.  I've only done the colonoscopy prep though, and you can't drink opaque things like a shake before that.

I tried adding wheat germ to it once, do not do that.
 
2022-05-24 3:14:06 PM  

saintstryfe: Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.

Feel free to email me to talk: spawn_of_cthulhu at  ultrafark dot com.

First, not dude.

Second, I was joking. But I appreciate the thought. I'm not going to skimp. I've prepped and planned everything I'll be putting into my body detailed to day with the plan they gave me. I'm not cheating, just asking if anyone had any advice on how to handle it.


I'm also not a dude, but I take no offense.
Power through it. You need to shrink your liver.  When you come out the other side you're still on liquids and it will be a hell of a lot worse.  Putting a sprinkle of black pepper in the plain broth helped the taste for me after surgery.  I also became quite enamored with protein shakes and still drink them daily 3 years out (jazzed up with pb2 and cocoa and fair life milk).
Too many people I know had the surgery, lost weight, and said "yay, now I can eat whatever I want" and got fat again. Or didn't stick strictly to the bariatric diet and didn't lose much. Those people make fun of me for still drinking protein shakes.
I lost 220 lbs and wear a size 8 now. I'm 53.
 
2022-05-24 3:30:16 PM  
My last time on a liquid diet was brief, and colonoscopy related, not surgical.  It was absolutely no big deal.  I was already having days where I couldn't tolerate most foods anyway, so subsisting on chicken broth and fruit juice wasn't that big a change.  If your nutritionist knows their stuff, they'll give you suggestions for a pretty balanced diet:  proteins, a little fat, not too much sugar.  Sugar doesn't keep you feeling satisfied for very long.  But yes, ice cream still tastes good.  And it's got plenty of fat and decent protein, so it keeps you feeling full for longer than soda would.

I can tell you that drinking a lot of water (or soda) to distract you from feeling hungry doesn't work very well.  Your stomach can actually grow if you keep filling it to maximum capacity, and meanwhile you're going to be hungry again in an hour at most.  Eat what you need, based on your activity level, and train your body to think of that level of hunger as normal.

Fear the Clam: pizza or ice cream.

Pizza is on my list of "foods that I still don't tolerate well."  Sometimes I eat a little anyway (It *is* tasty and satisfying), but there's absolutely no way it could be my only food.  Ice cream, definitely ice cream.
 
2022-05-24 3:38:39 PM  
I had bariatric surgery about 12 years ago.  Adjustable Gastric Band (the "Lap Band").  They made me sit thru a class on how to eat after surgery (not during recovery but once it "healed").  Half the things they told me I wouldn't be able to eat give me no problems, and half the things that give me problems, they didn't warn me about.  And it turns out that, from talking to other patients, that they're different for every person.

After surgery I was on a liquid diet for about two weeks.  That sucked, and I really have no advice other than don't go try to straight from jello and broth to steak and asparagus.  I tried eating ice for the texture, but as you might imagine, it didn't really satisfy.

Towards the end of recovery, I felt comfortable with trying something more solid...

That dollop of refried beans was the best meal I'd ever had.  The Cream of Wheat was also a good choice.  (The fried egg with a crispy edge was most definitely not.)

With a Lap Band, or other constriction (as opposed to a bypass), the experience of getting something "stuck" is one of the most miserable things you'll ever endure.  And it will happen.  It'll feel like something is lodged in your gizzard, your mouth will produce excess saliva, your esophagus will generate gobs of stringy, clear flux, and you'll feel like you need to regurgitate but can't.

What worked for me is to chase it with sips of cold, cold water until you can get most of that up, then once all the flux and saliva come up, if it still feels blocked, take a giant gulp of icy water.  The cold will shrink the irritated tissue a little, and the slug of water will dislodge the blockage.  (Or come back up... keep trying.)

Just remember, it *will* go down.  Eventually.  In the meantime, you're gonna hang out near a toilet or other receptacle.

If you're getting bypass surgery instead of a lap band, most of that will be unnecessary advice.  But your recovery period will be longer.

I went from 320lb down to 150.  Yeah, more than most.  Severe alcoholism probably was a factor, too.  Now I've leveled off at about 180.

And on that note, I've read that bariatric surgery patients are at higher risk of alcoholism, so... Welcome to Fark!
 
2022-05-24 3:48:23 PM  
Just checked.  Jeebus, it was 14 years ago.

It really took me 5 years to re-learn how to eat.

/chew, chew, chew
//don't get so hungry you gulp down your first bite
///it'll be your only bite until everyone else at the table is done
 
2022-05-24 4:47:27 PM  

enry: /There's no quick fix for stopping being a fatass.  I lost 50 lbs in 6 months with Noom and it took two years of lockdown (and making sourdough bread) for it to all come back.


It took me 10+ years to lose almost 300 doing the diet/exercise method, choosing to lose it verrrrrry slowly.  2 1/2 years at/under my goal weight, and my weight varies from the mean by no more than +/- 2 pounds.  I keep it off by continuing to do what I was doing while actively losing weight -- weighing my portions, counting my calories, and remaining very active.

I eat, without exaggeration, anything I want now.  I just limit my portions.  I make bread every week (as my moniker would imply), along with a big batch of homemade ice cream.  I had trouble NOT losing weight after hitting my goal (I'm about 10 under my goal), and I've had to introduce a lot of calorie-dense food (including the ice cream) just to maintain my weight.  When I told my doctor this, she ran a bunch of metabolic tests along with the standard blood work.  All normal.
 
2022-05-24 7:29:13 PM  
Make sure you tell everyone you know that you are getting the surgery, because people will see your results and think you're sick or on drugs.
 
2022-05-24 8:21:29 PM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: saintstryfe: Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Dude.  Don't eat ice cream.
I had bariatric surgery 3 years ago. If you're serious about losing weight stop eating shiat now and forever. If your thoughts are how you can cheat the liquid diet already you're setting yourself up to fail.

Feel free to email me to talk: spawn_of_cthulhu at  ultrafark dot com.

First, not dude.

Second, I was joking. But I appreciate the thought. I'm not going to skimp. I've prepped and planned everything I'll be putting into my body detailed to day with the plan they gave me. I'm not cheating, just asking if anyone had any advice on how to handle it.

I'm also not a dude, but I take no offense.
Power through it. You need to shrink your liver.  When you come out the other side you're still on liquids and it will be a hell of a lot worse.  Putting a sprinkle of black pepper in the plain broth helped the taste for me after surgery.  I also became quite enamored with protein shakes and still drink them daily 3 years out (jazzed up with pb2 and cocoa and fair life milk).
Too many people I know had the surgery, lost weight, and said "yay, now I can eat whatever I want" and got fat again. Or didn't stick strictly to the bariatric diet and didn't lose much. Those people make fun of me for still drinking protein shakes.
I lost 220 lbs and wear a size 8 now. I'm 53.


thank you. That's remarkable, grats. I lost a lot of weight back pre-pandemic and was doing ok until I lost my job unfairly mid-pandemic and lost a lot of control/structure.

I know how to eat, I just need a bit of help to control the hunger cravings.

And I'm hoping the protein shakes aren't too terrible.
 
2022-05-24 8:23:59 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Make sure you tell everyone you know that you are getting the surgery, because people will see your results and think you're sick or on drugs.


I've lost 40 pounds during my time doing the prove-to-your-insurance-company-you-can-do-this portion and people all ready ask that...
 
2022-05-24 8:25:10 PM  

bughunter: I had bariatric surgery about 12 years ago.  Adjustable Gastric Band (the "Lap Band").  They made me sit thru a class on how to eat after surgery (not during recovery but once it "healed").  Half the things they told me I wouldn't be able to eat give me no problems, and half the things that give me problems, they didn't warn me about.  And it turns out that, from talking to other patients, that they're different for every person.

After surgery I was on a liquid diet for about two weeks.  That sucked, and I really have no advice other than don't go try to straight from jello and broth to steak and asparagus.  I tried eating ice for the texture, but as you might imagine, it didn't really satisfy.

Towards the end of recovery, I felt comfortable with trying something more solid...

That dollop of refried beans was the best meal I'd ever had.  The Cream of Wheat was also a good choice.  (The fried egg with a crispy edge was most definitely not.)

With a Lap Band, or other constriction (as opposed to a bypass), the experience of getting something "stuck" is one of the most miserable things you'll ever endure.  And it will happen.  It'll feel like something is lodged in your gizzard, your mouth will produce excess saliva, your esophagus will generate gobs of stringy, clear flux, and you'll feel like you need to regurgitate but can't.

What worked for me is to chase it with sips of cold, cold water until you can get most of that up, then once all the flux and saliva come up, if it still feels blocked, take a giant gulp of icy water.  The cold will shrink the irritated tissue a little, and the slug of water will dislodge the blockage.  (Or come back up... keep trying.)

Just remember, it *will* go down.  Eventually.  In the meantime, you're gonna hang out near a toilet or other receptacle.

If you're getting bypass surgery instead of a lap band, most of that will be unnecessary advice.  But your recovery period will be longer.

I went from 320lb down to 150.  Yeah, more th ...


thank you, that is valuable advice, I appreciate it. I'm all ready planning on soft scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes for a few weeks.
 
2022-05-24 8:40:54 PM  

saintstryfe: bughunter: I had bariatric surgery about 12 years ago.  Adjustable Gastric Band (the "Lap Band").  They made me sit thru a class on how to eat after surgery (not during recovery but once it "healed").  Half the things they told me I wouldn't be able to eat give me no problems, and half the things that give me problems, they didn't warn me about.  And it turns out that, from talking to other patients, that they're different for every person.

After surgery I was on a liquid diet for about two weeks.  That sucked, and I really have no advice other than don't go try to straight from jello and broth to steak and asparagus.  I tried eating ice for the texture, but as you might imagine, it didn't really satisfy.

Towards the end of recovery, I felt comfortable with trying something more solid...

That dollop of refried beans was the best meal I'd ever had.  The Cream of Wheat was also a good choice.  (The fried egg with a crispy edge was most definitely not.)

With a Lap Band, or other constriction (as opposed to a bypass), the experience of getting something "stuck" is one of the most miserable things you'll ever endure.  And it will happen.  It'll feel like something is lodged in your gizzard, your mouth will produce excess saliva, your esophagus will generate gobs of stringy, clear flux, and you'll feel like you need to regurgitate but can't.

What worked for me is to chase it with sips of cold, cold water until you can get most of that up, then once all the flux and saliva come up, if it still feels blocked, take a giant gulp of icy water.  The cold will shrink the irritated tissue a little, and the slug of water will dislodge the blockage.  (Or come back up... keep trying.)

Just remember, it *will* go down.  Eventually.  In the meantime, you're gonna hang out near a toilet or other receptacle.

If you're getting bypass surgery instead of a lap band, most of that will be unnecessary advice.  But your recovery period will be longer.

I went from 320lb down to 150.  Yeah, more th ...

thank you, that is valuable advice, I appreciate it. I'm all ready planning on soft scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes for a few weeks.


Oh, the getting stuck.  I never vomited once, but meat, bread, and pasta still get stuck.  sit there like a lump behind my breastbone.  Just my tummy's way of saying, nope.  Don't eat that.  And carbonation? That's like being murderered.
But as someone else said, everyone gets stuck on different food. Some people aren't bothered by carbonation. You can't know for a few months, until you're on "unrestricted" eating what you can and can't tolerate.
And seriously, email me if you want someone to vent to.
 
2022-05-24 10:13:43 PM  

saintstryfe: bughunter: I had bariatric surgery about 12 years ago.  Adjustable Gastric Band (the "Lap Band").  They made me sit thru a class on how to eat after surgery (not during recovery but once it "healed").  Half the things they told me I wouldn't be able to eat give me no problems, and half the things that give me problems, they didn't warn me about.  And it turns out that, from talking to other patients, that they're different for every person.

After surgery I was on a liquid diet for about two weeks.  That sucked, and I really have no advice other than don't go try to straight from jello and broth to steak and asparagus.  I tried eating ice for the texture, but as you might imagine, it didn't really satisfy.

Towards the end of recovery, I felt comfortable with trying something more solid...

That dollop of refried beans was the best meal I'd ever had.  The Cream of Wheat was also a good choice.  (The fried egg with a crispy edge was most definitely not.)

With a Lap Band, or other constriction (as opposed to a bypass), the experience of getting something "stuck" is one of the most miserable things you'll ever endure.  And it will happen.  It'll feel like something is lodged in your gizzard, your mouth will produce excess saliva, your esophagus will generate gobs of stringy, clear flux, and you'll feel like you need to regurgitate but can't.

What worked for me is to chase it with sips of cold, cold water until you can get most of that up, then once all the flux and saliva come up, if it still feels blocked, take a giant gulp of icy water.  The cold will shrink the irritated tissue a little, and the slug of water will dislodge the blockage.  (Or come back up... keep trying.)

Just remember, it *will* go down.  Eventually.  In the meantime, you're gonna hang out near a toilet or other receptacle.

If you're getting bypass surgery instead of a lap band, most of that will be unnecessary advice.  But your recovery period will be longer.

I went from 320lb down to 150.  Yeah, more th ...

thank you, that is valuable advice, I appreciate it. I'm all ready planning on soft scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes for a few weeks.


Be cautious of "nutritionists"; anyone can claim that title regardless of education, registration, or licensing. A registered dietitian, however, is a recognized medical field.

However (you probably knew this was coming), licensing/registration is state-dependent (e.g., Virginia does not have registered dietitians, but most other states do). Registered dietitians have the medical background to provide proper dietary guidance, whereas "nutritionists" can be any schmo off the street who once saw an Atkins commercial.

As for the mashed potatoes, the glycemic index of simple starches (like mashed potatoes) is very high. Lots 'o carbs leads to lots 'o insulin which leads to lots 'o storage of the newly-created glucose source into fat. This is somewhat (read: REALLY) simplified. Proteins, complex carbohydrates, and fats generally have a lower glycemic index in addition to lower kCal/mass value.

Source: I'm not a registered dietitian, but am married to one. I am a licensed Doctor of pharmacy, so any nutritional advice should be taken with a skeptical mindset. Check firsthand with the REAL experts. This post is intended to point you in a direction where you can find dependable information from a properly qualified professional.

I wish you, and others, the very best, but seriously recommend against taking any research from "I dun Googled it" seriously without confirming the advice with someone skilled in the art.
 
2022-05-25 10:44:30 AM  
Most bariatric surgeries fail. It's not a magic procedure that solves your bad relationship with food.

That said, if you really want it to succeed, you need to be completely and totally pissed off about where you are and have motivation to fix it. Then you'll need to follow what the doctors say to perfection and go to the group counseling sessions to help keep you motivated.

If you aren't truly motivated and pissed off, you probably should consider canceling it as all it will do is mess up your digestive system.
 
2022-05-25 3:12:46 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Most bariatric surgeries fail. It's not a magic procedure that solves your bad relationship with food.

That said, if you really want it to succeed, you need to be completely and totally pissed off about where you are and have motivation to fix it. Then you'll need to follow what the doctors say to perfection and go to the group counseling sessions to help keep you motivated.

If you aren't truly motivated and pissed off, you probably should consider canceling it as all it will do is mess up your digestive system.


Thank you. I am - I'm so frustrated with my weight, and I want to be better more than anything. i really felt I was better when I went from nearly 500 to 180, leveling about 210, but when I lost my job and fell into the depression, I ballooned up over 300. I am also getting psychological help with my food addiction, by the same therapist I'm getting my transgender care for.  I want to be better so much and I'll take any pain. I just need a little help to not feel so hungry all the time.
 
2022-05-25 8:55:51 PM  
There's a honeymoon period right after surgery when weight loss is the easiest. Make the absolute most of it. It does not last forever.
 
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