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(Common Dreams)   The "pro-business party" votes to kill off 90,000 small businesses   (commondreams.org) divider line
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2022-05-24 3:14:35 AM  
Would that include businesses like MTG's gym and Boebert's restaurants?
I'm against such a bill unless it specifically excludes any business with a 5% or greater ownership by a member of congress, their spouse, parents, or children.
 
2022-05-24 3:37:53 AM  
This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.
 
2022-05-24 5:04:01 AM  

foo monkey: That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


Nothing is more important than STIGGINIT.
Besides, if they can wreck the economy, that gives them something to blame on Biden.
 
2022-05-24 7:19:36 AM  
Both parties are pro-business.
 
2022-05-24 7:19:43 AM  
And which party did those "small businesses" support, I wonder?

Sorry the leopard got to your face, LOL.
 
2022-05-24 7:20:16 AM  
And then every restaurant is a Taco Bell.

/right on time
 
2022-05-24 7:20:17 AM  
The same people who cry about green energy costing coal miner jobs.
 
2022-05-24 7:23:45 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


What part about "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD" do you not understand?
 
2022-05-24 7:24:10 AM  
They've never been "pro-business".
 
2022-05-24 7:24:37 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


They will blame Biden so no downside and this will actually gain them votes. No downside at all for them. In fact the exact opposite because their base are morons.
 
2022-05-24 7:25:21 AM  
Republicans don't love business - they love shareholders and especially donors, the people who consecrate profit- and rent-seeking.
 
2022-05-24 7:26:15 AM  

bloobeary: foo monkey: That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

Nothing is more important than STIGGINIT.
Besides, if they can wreck the economy, that gives them something to blame on Biden.


That's who they are, that's all they got
 
2022-05-24 7:31:07 AM  
The GOP is just helping get rid of the competition for their donors.
 
2022-05-24 7:31:51 AM  

bloobeary: foo monkey: That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

Nothing is more important than STIGGINIT.
Besides, if they can wreck the economy, that gives them something to blame on Biden.


This. Just in time for headlines reading " inflation soars, 50,000 small businesses close under Biden, 2,000,000 jobs lost, unemployment climbs"
 
2022-05-24 7:35:39 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


The biggest sin for them is lettiing Democrats have a win.
 
2022-05-24 7:36:40 AM  
Those businesses probably are owned by people who vote straight ticket Republican too.

90,000 businesses... but hundreds of thousands of employees who need those jobs.

Nice work GOP. Add holes.
 
2022-05-24 7:36:54 AM  
As a small business owner I'll just say that weathering financial shiatstorms is a pretty typical day and was well before Covid became a factor. While I think they should have passed this bill, I also know that most small business owners are extremely savvy financially and will figure something out.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to go sell some plasma.
 
2022-05-24 7:37:36 AM  

shpritz: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

The biggest sin for them is lettiing Democrats have a win.


Which in turn makes this not surprising in the least.

The fact that people continue to take Republicans' word at face value and continue to express surprise when it turns out they were lying is a big reason we can't have nice things.
 
2022-05-24 7:38:16 AM  

shpritz: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

The biggest sin for them is lettiing Democrats have a win.


Reminds me of the time McConnell killed the Obama tax credit for hiring workers during the 2008 recession. 2008-2010....

Was a HUGE benefit for the largest Republican donors, but would have let Obama have a win.

Sick of this crap.
 
2022-05-24 7:38:53 AM  
They will blame it on Biden and the Dems. And the mouth breathers will believe them.
 
2022-05-24 7:39:02 AM  

NewportBarGuy: shpritz: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

The biggest sin for them is lettiing Democrats have a win.

Reminds me of the time McConnell killed the Obama tax credit for hiring workers during the 2008 recession. 2008-2010....

Was a HUGE benefit for the largest Republican donors, but would have let Obama have a win.

Sick of this crap.


And the voters turned around and rewarded the GOP massively for that.
 
2022-05-24 7:42:59 AM  
Republicans - when they're not being deliberately stupid they're being actively malicious.
 
2022-05-24 7:43:40 AM  

Weaver95: Republicans - when they're not being deliberately stupid they're being actively malicious.


Deliberate stupidity is active malice.
 
2022-05-24 7:46:23 AM  
It's not a great political model when one side will vote against anything the other side proposes in order to prevent anything from happening that can be seen as good or a win.

Granted, having a voter base that doesn't realize that is the cause so they blame the party in power for all of the suffering isn't helping.

Or maybe they realize it but just don't care because STIGGINITTTT.

Yeah, probably the latter.
 
2022-05-24 7:46:45 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


It's the cruelty that is intended.

Now that Rs have secured enough state legislatures which passed bills to "legally" overturn election results, they know pissing off anyone no longer matters because those votes won't hold against them.

IOW, votes no longer matter to them.
 
2022-05-24 7:48:17 AM  
There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.
 
2022-05-24 7:48:27 AM  

suebhoney: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

It's the cruelty that is intended.

Now that Rs have secured enough state legislatures which passed bills to "legally" overturn election results, they know pissing off anyone no longer matters because those votes won't hold against them.

IOW, votes no longer matter to them.


Not like people were consistently voting against them prior to that (that being how they got the power in the first place to write those laws).
 
2022-05-24 7:50:03 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

The bipartisan Small Business Covid Relief Act


The reason is right there in the name. If it said 'The Republican Small Business Covid Relief Act', it would have been passed in a heartbeat.
 
2022-05-24 7:51:07 AM  
Cynically, this only failed because Republicans are in the minority. If Republicans were the majority with a Republican president, every Republican would have voted for it, and Democrats would have never blocked it just because the other part was in power.

Our entire system is configured so that only Republicans get to govern. Since Democrats refuse to change that, were probably going to have to burn the whole thing down.
 
2022-05-24 7:52:06 AM  
Don't worry, they're going to get a bunch of boomer cafe and restaurant owners to complain that "no one wants to work anymore" and put "let's go brandon" stickers on door and blame Biden anyway.

Because right wingers are human farking shiat garbage.
 
2022-05-24 7:52:49 AM  
Feature. Small businesses are the corporate sympathy figure Republicans to while farking everyone over. You know, the tax legislation equivalent to "think of the children." And much like children growing up in broken homes if they grow up at all, failing businesses just aren't bootstrappy enough and brought it on themselves. Simultaneously, they give Republicans another aggrieved segment to rile up and misdirect.
 
2022-05-24 7:53:26 AM  

feltrider: Cynically, this only failed because Republicans are in the minority. If Republicans were the majority with a Republican president, every Republican would have voted for it, and Democrats would have never blocked it just because the other part was in power.

Our entire system is configured so that only Republicans get to govern. Since Democrats refuse to change that, were probably going to have to burn the whole thing down.


Or maybe the voters could stop electing Republicans to positions of power
 
2022-05-24 7:53:28 AM  
Billions to oil and gas industry still ok.
 
2022-05-24 7:55:10 AM  

qorkfiend: suebhoney: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

It's the cruelty that is intended.

Now that Rs have secured enough state legislatures which passed bills to "legally" overturn election results, they know pissing off anyone no longer matters because those votes won't hold against them.

IOW, votes no longer matter to them.

Not like people were consistently voting against them prior to that (that being how they got the power in the first place to write those laws).


Yes, but now that this will effect every R-owned small business, the Rs know it doesn't matter if a bunch of their voters turn against them. They've secured their power and they're absolutely not going to give it up.

November is going to be the first test of these new "we can overturn any election result we don't like", and I greatly fear it's going to go wonderfully for them, and there isn't a damn thing to stop them.

It no longer matters to republicans if a bunch of their voters turn on them.
 
2022-05-24 7:58:22 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.


And as we all know, those are literally the only factors that can negatively affect a business.
 
2022-05-24 7:58:41 AM  
One party has control of the house and tiebreak vote in the senate. Only one party can be blamed for not passing bills
 
2022-05-24 7:59:35 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


Truthfully, the Republicans have never been advocates for literal small businesses.  They see nothing wrong with the so-called 'invisible hand of the market' destroying mom & pop and small stores all so major conglomerates can come in.  And if the invisible hand doesn't do it, they're more than happy to help it along.

Probably due to the fact that actual small businesses don't have the amount of bribes that conglomerates do, and a helluva lot less lobbyists.
 
2022-05-24 7:59:36 AM  
If your business is only open because the government is giving it money, does it deserve to be open?
 
2022-05-24 8:00:45 AM  

Warlordtrooper: One party has control of the house and tiebreak vote in the senate. Only one party can be blamed for not passing bills


*looks over at 60 vote threshold to break a filibuster*

Yeah, tough guy, sure they do.
 
2022-05-24 8:01:02 AM  

suebhoney: qorkfiend: suebhoney: foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

It's the cruelty that is intended.

Now that Rs have secured enough state legislatures which passed bills to "legally" overturn election results, they know pissing off anyone no longer matters because those votes won't hold against them.

IOW, votes no longer matter to them.

Not like people were consistently voting against them prior to that (that being how they got the power in the first place to write those laws).

Yes, but now that this will effect every R-owned small business, the Rs know it doesn't matter if a bunch of their voters turn against them. They've secured their power and they're absolutely not going to give it up.

November is going to be the first test of these new "we can overturn any election result we don't like", and I greatly fear it's going to go wonderfully for them, and there isn't a damn thing to stop them.

It no longer matters to republicans if a bunch of their voters turn on them.


They didn't care long before that. They've been punishing their voters for years with zero blowback. It's why they've continued to double down.

These are not new phenomena.
 
2022-05-24 8:01:37 AM  

bloobeary: foo monkey: That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.

Nothing is more important than STIGGINIT.
Besides, if they can wreck the economy, that gives them something to blame on Biden.


Right.  Taking money from one person (taxes) to prop up another person's failing business is only STIGGINIT.

It couldn't possibly just be the right thing to do
 
2022-05-24 8:02:00 AM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Shaggy_C: There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.

And as we all know, those are literally the only factors that can negatively affect a business.


You're right; these are the same businesses that refuse to pay a decent wage and then the owners complain about not being able to find workers. We should definitely give them tax money no strings attached.
 
2022-05-24 8:02:59 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.


Because we like having economies that work. These businesses pay a ton of taxes and if you don't help them stay in business in a time of supply shortages, people still nervous to go out in the same numbers and frequency as they used to, and rapid inflation... they will go out of business fire all their workers... then the businesses pay zero taxes and workers go on unemployment... So it costs us more money by NOT helping them than it does to help them.

But that doesn't fit your narrative of "F*ck 'em, let them figure it out!"
 
2022-05-24 8:03:05 AM  

Mr. Tweedy: As a small business owner I'll just say that weathering financial shiatstorms is a pretty typical day and was well before Covid became a factor. While I think they should have passed this bill, I also know that most small business owners are extremely savvy financially and will figure something out.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to go sell some plasma.


I sometimes see on sit-coms that selling sperm can be lucrative if you have the right profile. But they won't let you have a hot nurse in the room while you provide the donation.
 
2022-05-24 8:03:15 AM  
That's half a million each business.

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

That's 400 times the "sufficient" individual pandemic relief. Per business.
 
2022-05-24 8:03:29 AM  
I just assumed without clicking that the businesses in question were every Planned Parenthood location.
 
2022-05-24 8:04:19 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.


As much as I absolutely despise agreeing here, they're not off base. The field of restaurant attendance is changing/has changed massively due to the pandemic. It's never going to be the same. Yes, that will mean we won't have as many in the massively oversaturated field of restaurants. Those that will survive this have adapted to some hybrid of smaller in person dining and carry-out at a quality level. Everyone else is going to be left behind, unless you're those big corporate ones that claim to be a small business because "they're owned by a franchisee." Yes, the franchisee who owns 6 of them and rakes in several million a year, such the small business owner.
 
2022-05-24 8:07:14 AM  
Blatant example of playing politics with lives. Spin will be that it's Biden's fault because of inflation. They will yell across the airwaves so blame won't go to Republicans who voted it down or the greed of businesses actually driving the inflation.
 
2022-05-24 8:07:52 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Shaggy_C: There's no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions. If businesses can't survive in this wide-open post-pandemic environment, why should the taxpayer subsidise them? It's not 2020 any more.

Because we like having economies that work. These businesses pay a ton of taxes and if you don't help them stay in business in a time of supply shortages, people still nervous to go out in the same numbers and frequency as they used to, and rapid inflation... they will go out of business fire all their workers... then the businesses pay zero taxes and workers go on unemployment... So it costs us more money by NOT helping them than it does to help them.

But that doesn't fit your narrative of "F*ck 'em, let them figure it out!"


Right.  Businesses making zero profit pay a TON of taxes, and unemployment that's paid by the state is going to cost the federal government

Sounds legit
 
2022-05-24 8:10:32 AM  

foo monkey: This is rather surprising. "Small business is the lifeblood of our economy" is one of, if not the last bipartisan issue both parties dry hump for cheap pops. That Republicans would favor inflation fear mongering over direct aid to small biz is just weird.


The same was true I'm getting starving babies baby formula... Until last week.

/Fark anyone and anything that stands between the Regressive party and sticking it to the libs
 
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