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2022-05-24 3:32:17 AM  
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2022-05-24 5:25:46 AM  
Shenanigans
 
2022-05-24 6:25:03 AM  
Its more fun to think about there being chunks of the Earth on the moon as a result of the chicxulub impact. Yes, I know that the moon is likely the result of an impact of a body into the proto-Earth. But the chicxulub impact jettisoned Earthen material into space.
 
2022-05-24 8:01:44 AM  
The Dolphins haven't had a decent linebacker since.

Too bad the physicist in question isn't named Zach Thomas.
 
2022-05-24 8:03:28 AM  
Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shiat on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
 
2022-05-24 8:09:17 AM  
That's why he's not biologist Brian Penises.
 
2022-05-24 8:28:07 AM  

question_dj: Its more fun to think about there being chunks of the Earth on the moon as a result of the chicxulub impact. Yes, I know that the moon is likely the result of an impact of a body into the proto-Earth. But the chicxulub impact jettisoned Earthen material into space.


Europa probably has been contaminated by Earth organisms that way. Now whether or not they could survive on that Moon is another question.  And Mars is not probably, it has been contaminated many times even before space agencies started sending probes its way. Again it is the question if these microscopic travelers can set up shop.
 
2022-05-24 8:28:15 AM  
Is this the theory with the space-jews casting spells using the tree of life symbols to create a force field looking thing that let them travel to earth to form Atlantis, which broke into factions and led to an atlantean war? Also involving some other entities? I watched an almost three hour "video" complete with 100% mspaint "slides" and a neckbeard that droned on an on the entire time. It was allegedly our true history or some such nonsense. I think it was originally supposed to be what the Qanon endgame was, to teach everyone this history lol.
 
2022-05-24 8:30:47 AM  
And now - a craptastic 80s Canuckian music vid:
PUKKA ORCHESTRA - Might As Well Be On Mars
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2022-05-24 8:30:51 AM  
And what is weird Subby? This possibility has been main stream stuff for at least a couple decades. You should be used to it by now.
 
2022-05-24 8:42:14 AM  
Even Weekly World News headline writers are impressed
 
2022-05-24 8:48:45 AM  

flappy_penguin: Shenanigans


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2022-05-24 8:49:23 AM  
DARE to study astrophysics!

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2022-05-24 9:01:22 AM  
D:Ream - Things Can Only Get Better (1993) (Official Video)
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2022-05-24 9:01:38 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: And what is weird Subby? This possibility has been main stream stuff for at least a couple decades. You should be used to it by now.


I don't get it either.  It's called panspermia, and if life had ever emerged on Mars, it probably did so sooner than Earth because its smaller size would have allowed it to cool off more quickly.
 
2022-05-24 9:10:14 AM  
Life is believed to have started on Earth right after its formation some 4.something billion years ago. There is zero evidence for life on Mars, ever. This guy is a genius?
 
2022-05-24 9:16:32 AM  
Up next, Brian Cox explains Doom: The Movie.
 
2022-05-24 9:24:12 AM  

FlashHarry: DARE to study astrophysics!

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Dude has a wild life
 
2022-05-24 9:30:43 AM  

Marcos P: FlashHarry: DARE to study astrophysics!

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Dude has a wild life


For sure. Pretty, talented, and smart? Damn dude save some positive traits for the rest of us.

/not pretty
//not very talented
///kinda clever on occasion
 
2022-05-24 9:45:53 AM  

johnphantom: Life is believed to have started on Earth right after its formation some 4.something billion years ago. There is zero evidence for life on Mars, ever. This guy is a genius?


This is a widely recognized possibly for decades.  He is doing nothing more than reporting what mainstream origin of life researchers have been considering for a very long time. No one to my knowledge saying this is what happened, but that it is possible. The simple reality is that if their was microscopic life on Mars in the early years of the Solar System, it would have been transported to Earth by this mechanism.
 
2022-05-24 9:49:37 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: johnphantom: Life is believed to have started on Earth right after its formation some 4.something billion years ago. There is zero evidence for life on Mars, ever. This guy is a genius?

This has been a widely recognized possibly for decades.  He is doing nothing more than reporting what mainstream origin of life researchers have been considering for a very long time. No one to my knowledge saying this is what happened, but that it is possible. The simple reality is that if there was microscopic life on Mars in the early years of the Solar System, it would have been transported to Earth by this mechanism.


Fixed for me.
 
2022-05-24 9:50:08 AM  
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Brian Cox, the physicist, is a good writer.  If you like sciency books.
 
2022-05-24 9:53:02 AM  
Sounds like he's just stringing us along.
 
2022-05-24 10:08:15 AM  
oh for sure there are our old rocket ships over there
 
2022-05-24 10:36:22 AM  

The Weekend Baker: I don't get it either.  It's called panspermia,


Panspermia is what I call my jizz based flapjack recipie.
 
2022-05-24 11:00:37 AM  

flappy_penguin: Shenanigans


Malarkey.

SEMPRINI!
 
2022-05-24 11:10:18 AM  
I guess there's just a point when physicists get tired.
 
2022-05-24 11:18:06 AM  
I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
 
2022-05-24 11:51:02 AM  

sxacho: I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.


I like the girls that go to Uranus
/if you can find one
 
2022-05-24 12:41:47 PM  
I sometimes wonder if we didn't ruin Venus, global warming, greenhouse gases, abandon it and move to Earth. Now we are going to ruin Earth and move to Mars.
 
2022-05-24 12:48:53 PM  

MurphyMurphy: sxacho: I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

I like the girls that go to Uranus
/if you can find one


You have trouble locating...?
 
2022-05-24 12:59:12 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: MurphyMurphy: sxacho: I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

I like the girls that go to Uranus
/if you can find one

You have trouble locating...?


Uranos? Tricky.

But I'm happy with Uranus.
 
2022-05-24 1:02:34 PM  

The Weekend Baker: TheMysteriousStranger: And what is weird Subby? This possibility has been main stream stuff for at least a couple decades. You should be used to it by now.

I don't get it either.  It's called panspermia, and if life had ever emerged on Mars, it probably did so sooner than Earth because its smaller size would have allowed it to cool off more quickly.


It's also easier for an impact to knock material into space from Mars than from Earth.

So more likely for at least two reasons.
 
2022-05-24 1:27:05 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: ArcadianRefugee: MurphyMurphy: sxacho: I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

I like the girls that go to Uranus
/if you can find one

You have trouble locating...?

Uranos? Tricky.

But I'm happy with Uranus.


Your mom screamed and fainted when I showed her the Klingons in the rings around Uranus. I had to give her mouth to mouth to resuscitate  her.

//my mom joke
 
2022-05-24 1:41:27 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: ArcadianRefugee: MurphyMurphy: sxacho: I thought boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

I like the girls that go to Uranus
/if you can find one

You have trouble locating...?

Uranos? Tricky.

But I'm happy with Uranus.


Thanks; I try.
 
2022-05-24 1:49:51 PM  

johnphantom: But I'm happy with Uranus.


Your mom screamed and fainted when I showed her the Klingons in the rings around Uranus. I had to give her mouth to mouth to resuscitate  her.

//my mom joke


ArcadianRefugee: But I'm happy with Uranus.


Thanks; I try.


ffs it took me 50 years to think of that joke
 
2022-05-24 1:56:06 PM  

luddite v2.0: I sometimes wonder if we didn't ruin Venus, global warming, greenhouse gases, abandon it and move to Earth. Now we are going to ruin Earth and move to Mars.


That is inconsistent with the available evidence on Earth.
 
2022-05-24 2:13:42 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: And what is weird Subby? This possibility has been main stream stuff for at least a couple decades. You should be used to it by now.


It's been a common crackpot conspiracy theory and/or in-joke to bring up at parties when everyone's in the 'dude, do you ever think about, like, hands and shiat?' stage of inebriation for quite some time, yes.

Anyone proposing it as a serious thing is either deeply, catastrophically misunderstanding the panspermia hypothesis and what the required math is to make that one work (without the underlying premise that a precursor form of life is basically scattered everywhere and capable of surviving some pretty nasty conditions with reproductive capacity intact it all breaks down very, very quickly), or a pseudoscientist attempting to sell you snake oil.  What's being proposed here isn't just on the order of homeopathy, it is almost literally homeopathy with a different proposed substrate.

// Hell, even if you ignore that this doesn't and has never passed the smell test, occam's razor kills it instantly because it would be unnecessary, since all components of life were already capable of forming in Earth conditions and had no need to come from anywhere else to begin with.  It's the equivalent of theorizing that "gravity" actually works by way of invisible pink unicorns pushing things down with their horns in a way that just coincidentally happens to perfectly mimic the otherwise known behavior of gravity.  That's how much of a "possibility" this is.

// It would be nice if being an actual scientist in a different field or even the same field meant you couldn't also be a pseudoscientist shilling bullshiat snake oil.  Alas, history is rich with counterexamples to that form of ethos appeal being valid.
 
2022-05-24 2:35:07 PM  

Jim_Callahan: TheMysteriousStranger: And what is weird Subby? This possibility has been main stream stuff for at least a couple decades. You should be used to it by now.

It's been a common crackpot conspiracy theory and/or in-joke to bring up at parties when everyone's in the 'dude, do you ever think about, like, hands and shiat?' stage of inebriation for quite some time, yes.

Anyone proposing it as a serious thing is either deeply, catastrophically misunderstanding the panspermia hypothesis and what the required math is to make that one work (without the underlying premise that a precursor form of life is basically scattered everywhere and capable of surviving some pretty nasty conditions with reproductive capacity intact it all breaks down very, very quickly), or a pseudoscientist attempting to sell you snake oil.  What's being proposed here isn't just on the order of homeopathy, it is almost literally homeopathy with a different proposed substrate.

// Hell, even if you ignore that this doesn't and has never passed the smell test, occam's razor kills it instantly because it would be unnecessary, since all components of life were already capable of forming in Earth conditions and had no need to come from anywhere else to begin with.  It's the equivalent of theorizing that "gravity" actually works by way of invisible pink unicorns pushing things down with their horns in a way that just coincidentally happens to perfectly mimic the otherwise known behavior of gravity.  That's how much of a "possibility" this is.

// It would be nice if being an actual scientist in a different field or even the same field meant you couldn't also be a pseudoscientist shilling bullshiat snake oil.  Alas, history is rich with counterexamples to that form of ethos appeal being valid.


Yet we still don't know what the odds of abiogenesis are, and we have evidence Mars had a head start.  At least we can estimate the odds of something 'biologically useful' reaching Earth from Mars.  If abiogenesis has odds anything like that, it's a theory worth concentrating a few neurons on.

It might be a long shot (literally and figuratively), but the main problem with it isn't the probability, it is that it doesn't get us any closer to understanding abiogenesis - it just moves it out a planet and back a few hundred million years.

Unless it turns out conditions for that first step were more favorable further out / earlier on and Earth was actually at a disadvantage after the Theia reset.  That would be a fascination conclusion.
 
2022-05-24 2:59:58 PM  

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2022-05-24 3:02:14 PM  
 
2022-05-24 3:07:04 PM  
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2022-05-24 4:56:37 PM  

question_dj: Its more fun to think about there being chunks of the Earth on the moon as a result of the chicxulub impact. Yes, I know that the moon is likely the result of an impact of a body into the proto-Earth. But the chicxulub impact jettisoned Earthen material into space.


Moon nothing, there could be pieces of earth on mars.  We've found mars on antarctic ice, so it's possible
 
2022-05-24 5:02:57 PM  
johnphantom:

The only evidence we had for life starting on Earth for millennia was life on earth. took science a long time to figure out what to look for and where and how for origin evidence.

The life starting on mars hypothesis has been around a long time, but it's not like you can just hop on a bus to phobos and take an elevator down to go microbe fossil hunting
 
2022-05-24 5:45:25 PM  

leeksfromchichis: johnphantom:

The only evidence we had for life starting on Earth for millennia was life on earth. took science a long time to figure out what to look for and where and how for origin evidence.

The life starting on mars hypothesis has been around a long time, but it's not like you can just hop on a bus to phobos and take an elevator down to go microbe fossil hunting


I am 99.99~% more likely to accept that life can spring up anywhere suitable, like it's part of the system.
 
2022-05-24 5:53:10 PM  

johnphantom: leeksfromchichis: johnphantom:

The only evidence we had for life starting on Earth for millennia was life on earth. took science a long time to figure out what to look for and where and how for origin evidence.

The life starting on mars hypothesis has been around a long time, but it's not like you can just hop on a bus to phobos and take an elevator down to go microbe fossil hunting

I am 99.99~% more likely to accept that life can spring up anywhere suitable, like it's part of the system.


That's what NDT posits.  Makes sense.

But I like panspermia because we've already started doing it.
 
2022-05-24 7:15:38 PM  
While I like the idea of Panspermia, the human Mars origin is bunk. We are closely fitted in and clearly related to the rest of Earth life. If Earth life did originate off planet, it did so right near the beginning. I like to think that there was dormant life scattered in the nebula that Sol formed from, and we are descendants of life from old dead star systems.
 
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