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2022-05-23 4:38:58 PM  
Pop quiz hot shot:

If you were on a Jury and Cohen was disagreeing with a cop who would you believe?!?


/correct answer: neither
 
2022-05-23 4:58:25 PM  
However, as the new report states, Cohen gave testimony that he was in the room when the protesters were discussed and, under questioning, stated Trump asked security head Keith Schiller, "Did you see that there's a demonstration going on? Get rid of them," to which Schiller reportedly replied, "Okay, boss."

And they think that's going to stand up in court as irrefutable evidence that he told an employee to commit violence?  JFC.
 
2022-05-23 6:01:43 PM  
I don't know what Rachael ever saw in him.
 
2022-05-23 8:33:46 PM  
FTA: "As a side note, the Beast report also reveals Cohen also testified Trump lived in fear of being 'pied' after it happened to Microsoft founder Bill Gates with Pagliery quoting the attorney testifying, 'For some reason that upset Mr. Trump terribly. We were all instructed that if somebody was to ever throw anything at him, that if that person didn't end up in the hospital, we'd all be fired,'"

You hear that? If you really want to annoy Trump, all you'd have to do is give him a nice messy creampie to the face.

/Phrasing
 
2022-05-23 8:37:15 PM  

SpectroBoy: Pop quiz hot shot:

If you were on a Jury and Cohen was disagreeing with a cop who would you believe?!?


Whoever gave the testimony that best fit the available evidence, I would assign a higher probability to them having spoken truthfully.  You can't actually tell the difference between a careful lie spoken by a good liar and the truth.  You can't even trust that they didn't simply make an honest mistake rather than lie.  Nobody can tell 'the truth' about anything that needs to see a jury, because we all perceive things differently and we all have highly fallible memories.

But you can look at a witness' motivations and where things don't add up, and if there's enough to go on you can make a reasonable guess.  As frightening as it is, that's what it comes down to for even the most diligent and honorable jurist; they guess.

I wouldn't ask for video evidence of everything (not just because that's impossible), but I don't think I'd take anyone's word in a matter of importance without some kind of corroborating evidence.
 
2022-05-23 8:41:39 PM  

SpectroBoy: Pop quiz hot shot:

If you were on a Jury and Cohen was disagreeing with a cop who would you believe?!?


/correct answer: neither


Remember when he made the bold claim, under oath, that Trump would not leave office peacefully?

Yeah, I think he's gained some credibility.
 
2022-05-23 8:45:14 PM  
Jeezus at this point we should just pardon the a-hole for all crimes done in office and give him a friggin medal. Let him sit in satisfaction and leave the rest of us alone.

We will never see any justice In our  lifetime. Teach the children to do better because we are already done
 
2022-05-23 8:46:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: However, as the new report states, Cohen gave testimony that he was in the room when the protesters were discussed and, under questioning, stated Trump asked security head Keith Schiller, "Did you see that there's a demonstration going on? Get rid of them," to which Schiller reportedly replied, "Okay, boss."

And they think that's going to stand up in court as irrefutable evidence that he told an employee to commit violence?  JFC.


If it's part of a pattern of behavior, approving of the violent tactics can (if one is not an idiot) be seen as a request to do just that the next time he asks a subordinate to "get rid of" someone.

Good thing for Trump that he probably hasn't uttered similar commands since...
 
2022-05-23 8:55:07 PM  

DrJesusPhD: Benevolent Misanthrope: However, as the new report states, Cohen gave testimony that he was in the room when the protesters were discussed and, under questioning, stated Trump asked security head Keith Schiller, "Did you see that there's a demonstration going on? Get rid of them," to which Schiller reportedly replied, "Okay, boss."

And they think that's going to stand up in court as irrefutable evidence that he told an employee to commit violence?  JFC.

If it's part of a pattern of behavior, approving of the violent tactics can (if one is not an idiot) be seen as a request to do just that the next time he asks a subordinate to "get rid of" someone.

Good thing for Trump that he probably hasn't uttered similar commands since...


Cohen has said he's like a mafia don.  He never gives the direct order, but you know what he wants you to do.
 
2022-05-23 8:59:13 PM  
Fun fact: The crime that Michael Cohen went to prison for had its statute of limitations expire for Donald Trump, meaning the guy that ordered Michael Cohen to do the crime himself can not be prosecuted for the same crime.

But y'know, I'm a Veruca Salt for wanting prosecutions to happen before the statute of limitations expires.
 
2022-05-23 9:01:17 PM  

Unsung_Hero: SpectroBoy: Pop quiz hot shot:

If you were on a Jury and Cohen was disagreeing with a cop who would you believe?!?

Whoever gave the testimony that best fit the available evidence, I would assign a higher probability to them having spoken truthfully.  You can't actually tell the difference between a careful lie spoken by a good liar and the truth.  You can't even trust that they didn't simply make an honest mistake rather than lie.  Nobody can tell 'the truth' about anything that needs to see a jury, because we all perceive things differently and we all have highly fallible memories.

But you can look at a witness' motivations and where things don't add up, and if there's enough to go on you can make a reasonable guess.  As frightening as it is, that's what it comes down to for even the most diligent and honorable jurist; they guess.

I wouldn't ask for video evidence of everything (not just because that's impossible), but I don't think I'd take anyone's word in a matter of importance without some kind of corroborating evidence.


It's like a textbook description of 'reasonable doubt'. Fantastic job.
 
2022-05-23 9:17:44 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: However, as the new report states, Cohen gave testimony that he was in the room when the protesters were discussed and, under questioning, stated Trump asked security head Keith Schiller, "Did you see that there's a demonstration going on? Get rid of them," to which Schiller reportedly replied, "Okay, boss."

And they think that's going to stand up in court as irrefutable evidence that he told an employee to commit violence?  JFC.


... the article continues,
As the report notes, Trump previously denied ordering an attack on the protesters when he was asked if he instructed Schiller to use force, to which he replied, "No I didn't."


Saying "Get rid of them" is not explicitly a request to attack the protestors or to use force. It simply doesn't add up to a perjury conviction. Even saying "good" when Schiller said he smacked someone across the head doesn't do it.  People are delusional about what is required to get a perjury conviction, against anyone.
 
2022-05-23 9:24:45 PM  
Is Cohen dead in this photo?
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It actually makes TFG look healthy.
 
2022-05-23 9:53:18 PM  
"We were on a break!"
 
2022-05-23 10:28:55 PM  
I don't see how trump could not be convicted of perjury, because pretty much everything that comes out of his ugly mouth is a lie. About the only true thing I've ever heard him say is, "No, I don't take any responsibility at all."
 
2022-05-23 10:39:57 PM  
The simple fact TFG has never been convicted or even tried for perjury does not make it think it will ever happen before he finally dies
 
2022-05-24 1:53:31 AM  

SpectroBoy: Pop quiz hot shot:

If you were on a Jury and Cohen was disagreeing with a cop who would you believe?!?



Honestly, Cohen. At this point, why would he need to lie? He's already farked ten times from Tuesday and he knows it.
 
2022-05-24 6:42:44 AM  

ScrimBoy: Is Cohen dead in this photo?
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It actually makes TFG look healthy.


They almost cancel each other out on the color wheel.
 
2022-05-24 7:18:03 AM  
Here is a stupid Christian saying to go with this: "Hope springs eternal!"
 
2022-05-24 12:31:50 PM  
I love how every headline is Eeyore Bait.

Almost amusing.
 
2022-05-24 3:37:15 PM  
However, as the new report states, Cohen gave testimony that he was in the room when the protesters were discussed and, under questioning, stated Trump asked security head Keith Schiller, "Did you see that there's a demonstration going on? Get rid of them," to which Schiller reportedly replied, "Okay, boss."

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