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2022-05-23 10:06:39 AM  
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2022-05-23 10:14:08 AM  
I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.
 
2022-05-23 10:23:16 AM  
The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.
 
2022-05-23 10:27:22 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


Sometimes your witnesses decide to change their mind at the last minute:

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2022-05-23 10:28:05 AM  
Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.
 
2022-05-23 10:31:33 AM  
Make sure "Legbreaker" McGee is standing over the witnesses.  And "Jawsmasher" Jones is handling the Republicans in the audience.

And...
 
2022-05-23 10:33:41 AM  

shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.


Because Americans have a short attention span, and hate it when a TV show runs way beyond when it's pre-defined plot points.

As far as witnesses changing their minds.  I've got a feeling the ones they expect to change will only have their testimony shown on video from their private appearances.
 
2022-05-23 10:38:51 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


If the Republican obfuscation team can't be in the hearing, they will be blasting it every minute of the day on FOX and every RWNJ radio talk show they can fit into their schedules until they're dead of asphyxiation. There will be a constant, unending firehose of fud, derision and open lies sprayed as widely and forcefully as possible in every direction to keep the base in line and weaken the resolve of the moderates on both sides.

It can't just be "explosive." It needs to be so damning that the accused will need permanent witness protection from the public after they are released from jail. There is no room for mercy or margin for error or "good faith" in this.
 
2022-05-23 10:41:45 AM  

thecactusman17: BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.

If the Republican obfuscation team can't be in the hearing, they will be blasting it every minute of the day on FOX and every RWNJ radio talk show they can fit into their schedules until they're dead of asphyxiation. There will be a constant, unending firehose of fud, derision and open lies sprayed as widely and forcefully as possible in every direction to keep the base in line and weaken the resolve of the moderates on both sides.

It can't just be "explosive." It needs to be so damning that the accused will need permanent witness protection from the public after they are released from jail. There is no room for mercy or margin for error or "good faith" in this.


Is there anything that could happen at these hearings that would make Merrick Garland want to do his job?
 
2022-05-23 10:41:47 AM  

shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.


It's all to maximize political impact because they know the DOJ won't do a f*cking thing about any of this.

I support these and want people held to account, but this is all a farce.

No goddamn consequences except costing these assholes to spend millions on lawyers.
 
2022-05-23 10:47:33 AM  

thecactusman17: BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.

If the Republican obfuscation team can't be in the hearing, they will be blasting it every minute of the day on FOX and every RWNJ radio talk show they can fit into their schedules until they're dead of asphyxiation. There will be a constant, unending firehose of fud, derision and open lies sprayed as widely and forcefully as possible in every direction to keep the base in line and weaken the resolve of the moderates on both sides.

It can't just be "explosive." It needs to be so damning that the accused will need permanent witness protection from the public after they are released from jail. There is no room for mercy or margin for error or "good faith" in this.


They would be sitting on Fox, OAN, Newsmax, etc regardless hitting back on their viewers, but they can't derail the actual testimony and presentations.  And face it, the dyed in the wool magats won't be paying attention anyway.  This is for everyone else.  Those who believe what went on, and those who are on the fence.

What I want, is for the committee to announce a deal with Netflix, Hulu, Prime, Peacock, Paramount, etc.  To all have the hearings on their platforms.  Get more people to stream it.  Catch those who wouldn't be caught dead officially watching the hearings, but may end up streaming it.
 
2022-05-23 10:50:29 AM  
If Depp/Heard has taught me anything (and it hasn't because I haven't seen a moment of it or been in any of the threads), it's that the public loves a good trial.
 
2022-05-23 10:57:56 AM  

shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.


The investigation has gone on as needed. The hearings are really just a bit of theater. Sometimes a show needs to be edited down by people who aren't the performers.
 
2022-05-23 10:59:38 AM  

wademh: shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.

The investigation has gone on as needed. The hearings are really just a bit of theater. Sometimes a show needs to be edited down by people who aren't the performers.


When real action is needed, Democrats have theater for us. Great job, no notes. Perfect.
 
2022-05-23 11:12:00 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Is there anything that could happen at these hearings that would make Merrick Garland want to do his job?


A six year-old offering a single tear as she holds tightly to a dingy, worn teddy bear as she speaks in a shaky voice and a lisp?
 
2022-05-23 12:38:01 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.


I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this
 
2022-05-23 12:39:11 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: wademh: shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.

The investigation has gone on as needed. The hearings are really just a bit of theater. Sometimes a show needs to be edited down by people who aren't the performers.

When real action is needed, Democrats have theater for us. Great job, no notes. Perfect.


When real action is needed, Republicans sit on their ass and obstruct. Great job, not notes. Perfect.
 
2022-05-23 12:39:30 PM  

Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this


That's like predicting that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.
 
2022-05-23 12:40:24 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


I'm with you on this. No one on Team Trump is going to testify on the record and potentially definitely commit perjury.
 
2022-05-23 12:40:33 PM  
And for the record, I'm expecting the mainstream media to desperately stick to the "both sides are always equally bad" narrative no matter how stupid it makes them look.
 
2022-05-23 12:40:53 PM  

Decorus: AdmirableSnackbar: wademh: shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.

The investigation has gone on as needed. The hearings are really just a bit of theater. Sometimes a show needs to be edited down by people who aren't the performers.

When real action is needed, Democrats have theater for us. Great job, no notes. Perfect.

When real action is needed, Republicans sit on their ass and obstruct. Great job, not notes. Perfect.


I mean, I see how you might think this was clever, if not for the subject of the thread.
 
2022-05-23 12:41:14 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


Yeah, all of this.

And the GOP is absolutely kicking itself for their rash decision to boycot it & not get 1-2 people beyond Cheney & Kinzinger on the committee.
 
2022-05-23 12:41:17 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.


With the 1 to 68 problem, it never had a chance.
 
2022-05-23 12:41:29 PM  
Rick, we aren't stupid.

We know this thing is so big and has been going on for so long it needs 6 justice departments worth of people power just to enforce the decorum.
 
2022-05-23 12:41:38 PM  
It's a rainbow of teams!
 
2022-05-23 12:42:06 PM  

BizarreMan: shastacola: Why set a number of hearings in the first place? The hearings should go on until they're done.

Because Americans have a short attention span, and hate it when a TV show runs way beyond when it's pre-defined plot points.

As far as witnesses changing their minds.  I've got a feeling the ones they expect to change will only have their testimony shown on video from their private appearances.


They have a 24 hour news cycle we counter with 6 hearings.

It isn't about attention span. It is about pretending to do something and then saying "welp... that was all we could do".

This is the same BS song and dance that we have seen for years.
 
2022-05-23 12:42:39 PM  
Forget it. Rick's rolling.
 
2022-05-23 12:43:28 PM  

Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this


At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.
 
2022-05-23 12:44:26 PM  

Myrdinn: Make sure "Legbreaker" McGee is standing over the witnesses.  And "Jawsmasher" Jones is handling the Republicans in the audience.

And...


I prefer the personal touch you can only get with Hired Goons.
 
2022-05-23 12:44:34 PM  
Just a reminder, Wilson is still an establishment Republican even if he gave up the party due to Trump. He had no small part in getting us a where we are and i doubt he'd take issue with the current republican leadership taking back over.
 
2022-05-23 12:44:54 PM  

zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.


Democrats don't have a motivating force like Republicans do with racism.  It's sad to say that racism excites Americans, but it's true.
 
2022-05-23 12:45:55 PM  

zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.


I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.
 
2022-05-23 12:46:18 PM  
He's right you know. Democrats are showing all the signs of fumbling this whole thing and let's face it: that's their default setting. They need to stop viewing Republicans as their countrymen and start viewing them as the enemy.
 
2022-05-23 12:47:42 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


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2022-05-23 12:48:00 PM  

Weaver95: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.


They're rich enough that whatever happens doesnt really matter to them.  They'll be fine either way.

/they think
 
2022-05-23 12:50:44 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Weaver95: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.

They're rich enough that whatever happens doesnt really matter to them.  They'll be fine either way.

/they think


I think it's more like the Dems leadership all go to the same vacation spots as rich people, eat dinner at the same places, all belong to the same country clubs, watch the same movies, went to the same schools...
The world they live in is not the same one where you and I stay
 
2022-05-23 12:51:18 PM  

thecactusman17: If the Republican obfuscation team can't be in the hearing, they will be blasting it every minute of the day on FOX and every RWNJ radio talk show they can fit into their schedules until they're dead of asphyxiation. There will be a constant, unending firehose of fud, derision and open lies sprayed as widely and forcefully as possible in every direction to keep the base in line and weaken the resolve of the moderates on both sides.

It can't just be "explosive." It needs to be so damning that the accused will need permanent witness protection from the public after they are released from jail. There is no room for mercy or margin for error or "good faith" in this.


I bet they are more likely to ignore it than to try and bring attention to it. If any of their kkkult turns in and watches that may be bad for their branding since they won't be able to nitpick answers and, as others have mentioned, they won't have any clips to edit to show on their shows.
 
2022-05-23 12:51:58 PM  

thecactusman17: If the Republican obfuscation team can't be in the hearing, they will be blasting it every minute of the day on FOX and every RWNJ radio talk show they can fit into their schedules until they're dead of asphyxiation. There will be a constant, unending firehose of fud, derision and open lies sprayed as widely and forcefully as possible in every direction to keep the base in line and weaken the resolve of the moderates on both sides.


Not that I disagree, but won't they be doing that anyway?
 
2022-05-23 12:55:15 PM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

Democrats don't have a motivating force like Republicans do with racism.  It's sad to say that racism excites Americans, but it's true.


I don't think that is the full story.

Mainstream republicans are openly pushing the white replacement theory. In 2022, I legitimately have to worry about whether my marriage will cease to exist in the next few years because of racism.

As a Democrat, combating this is motivating, but for some reason there is no urgency from our representatives. I truly think that they don't fight as hard because they don't want to spook businesses and that they really only serve the corporations that fund them. They have to maintain the friendliest economy for these businesses, we are a secondary concern.

Republicans have a motivating force and have shown that they are more than willing to harm the economy to please their base. Texas border fiasco, Florida's hostility toward Disney, etc.
 
2022-05-23 12:55:31 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm not sure what Rick is smoking.  But he's missing a few crucial pieces of information.

1)  These won't be the usual hearings we've seen forever.
2)  The only people asking questions/talking will be the committee, and there isn't a Gaetz, Jordan, etc on the committee to derail the issues.
3)  No way are they going to bring in uncooperative witnesses.  This is going to be all pre-screened, pre-planned down to the minute.  Everyone they get in front of them answering questions will be cooperating 100%.


Today I find myself dearly, fervently hoping that someone named BizarreMan is correct.
 
2022-05-23 12:55:38 PM  

Weaver95: Teddy Brosevelt: Weaver95: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.

They're rich enough that whatever happens doesnt really matter to them.  They'll be fine either way.

/they think

I think it's more like the Dems leadership all go to the same vacation spots as rich people, eat dinner at the same places, all belong to the same country clubs, watch the same movies, went to the same schools...
The world they live in is not the same one where you and I stay


Nailed it 100%.  The right vs left battle is a ruse.  It isnt right vs left.  It never was.  It is and always has been rich vs poor.
 
2022-05-23 12:55:53 PM  
"They know that propriety is a sucker's game"

^^^^THIS^^^^..... ×1000
 
2022-05-23 12:56:21 PM  
Command the narrative.
I hate to agree with one of the people that got this ball of shiat rolling in the first place, but..This is something far too many politicians on the left screw up repeatedly, mostly because they assume that the average American actually follows these things and is somehow well informed.
 
2022-05-23 12:57:33 PM  
Not that I refuse to be unpleasantly surprised, but unless I'm very much mistaken, these "hearings" are basically going to be 6 prime-time story times, basically the audio-book version of the committee's final report.

This is where they are going to make their case and lay out the timeline, and, as has been mentioned, there are no obstructing GOPers on the panel to do anything about it.
 
2022-05-23 12:58:38 PM  

Myrdinn: Make sure "Legbreaker" McGee is standing over the witnesses.  And "Jawsmasher" Jones is handling the Republicans in the audience.

And...


We only need the bear jew.
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Then afterward, let's make sure everyone knows who the gnatsees are.
 
2022-05-23 1:00:31 PM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: Democrats don't have a motivating force like Republicans do with racism.  It's sad to say that racism excites Americans, but it's true.


Yes we do...but every time a democrat starts fighting back, they get sabotaged by their own party.
AOC gets more push back from her own leadership than she does from conservatives. And pelosi considers "progressive" to be a cuss word, just like the Republicans do.
Democrats can fire up their base...but that means change. It means that at least a few elders need to be removed from power and it means making Republicans and media and rich people FURIOUS.
And I don't think the Dems leadership have the ability to put the good of the country ahead of their own self interest.
 
2022-05-23 1:00:50 PM  

Weaver95: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.


I think being out of touch is more than likely intentional at this point. I don't think that reality bends that much for them to not see what they are enabling.
 
2022-05-23 1:01:24 PM  

Weaver95: Teddy Brosevelt: Weaver95: zoltan2000: Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: The only thing we can agree on is that our form of government is irrevocably broken.

I think the Dems will drop the ball.
Again.
I hope I'm wrong about this

At this point, I think the question is whether it is intentional or not.

I don't think it's intentional. I think that in their own way, the leadership of the Democratic party is just as isolated and out of touch with reality as the conservatives.
Biden, pelosi, Schumer...they just don't see the danger and refuse to listen.

They're rich enough that whatever happens doesnt really matter to them.  They'll be fine either way.

/they think

I think it's more like the Dems leadership all go to the same vacation spots as rich people, eat dinner at the same places, all belong to the same country clubs, watch the same movies, went to the same schools...
The world they live in is not the same one where you and I stay


So far, the 1/6 committee has done good work.  Complaining that there will "only" be six days of testimony before it happens is the type of whining I've come to expect from here.  Also complaining they are out touch is similar-it simply isn't reflected in anything they do.  Heck, I think they are more in touch with the average voter than the average Farker is.  (The average Farker thinks that "Defund the Police" was both a good slogan and a good idea.)

If they are so out of touch, what should they do then?  Note that this can't involve breaking the law or proposing civil war or anything anywhere near that (because then we become them).
 
2022-05-23 1:01:48 PM  

Gubbo: If Depp/Heard has taught me anything (and it hasn't because I haven't seen a moment of it or been in any of the threads), it's that the public loves a good trial.


Yup.  One of them tried to argue with me saying no one cared.  EVERYONE is going be watching.

I cant watch the Depp/Heard trial though.  Ive been on the other side of a BPD person.  They got wild claims.  like wild stuff.  They are agents of chaos, and the most extreme love bombing, and mirrored relationships.  Everyone should fear them.  And they're not even trying to be bad people, their life isn't as fun as it looks.
 
2022-05-23 1:02:24 PM  

Geotpf: So far, the 1/6 committee has done good work.


Hilarious.
 
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