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2022-05-23 3:13:49 AM  
America, take notes
 
2022-05-23 3:18:25 AM  

leeksfromchichis: America, take notes


They're probably took our example to be sure they went the opposite direction as quickly as possible.
 
2022-05-23 3:19:40 AM  
Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.
 
2022-05-23 3:24:24 AM  

wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.


Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.
 
2022-05-23 3:26:06 AM  

wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.


The sound of stupid assholes money going poof.

(Can't burn the Aussie Money it's that Polymer stuff.)

/Canadian
//I think we actually got our Polymer from Australia or the formulation or some thing like that.
///I miss the different sized bills
 
2022-05-23 3:30:28 AM  

DocUi: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

The sound of stupid assholes money going poof.

(Can't burn the Aussie Money it's that Polymer stuff.)

/Canadian
//I think we actually got our Polymer from Australia or the formulation or some thing like that.
///I miss the different sized bills


fun fact: you can put polymer notes in the oven and shrink them down to stamp size
 
2022-05-23 3:33:12 AM  
FTA:  But this election threw all the balls up in the air

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2022-05-23 3:37:07 AM  

DocUi: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

The sound of stupid assholes money going poof.

(Can't burn the Aussie Money it's that Polymer stuff.)

/Canadian
//I think we actually got our Polymer from Australia or the formulation or some thing like that.
///I miss the different sized bills


Funny, I'm pretty sure the NZ polymer bills are made in Canada.
 
2022-05-23 3:47:13 AM  
It's a move to the left, but economically this won't be a hard left turn. It's about accepting the science on climate, which the conservatives really couldn't manage, and it's about improving governance but it's a sad world to live in if these priorities are only of the left. They're just good ideas.

/I'm on the left and I suspect that this government won't be much interested in the sorts of economic reforms I'd like to see, but it's great to have a government which accepts reality rather than buries its head in the sand so I'm not complaining.
 
2022-05-23 3:49:55 AM  
As a whirlpool does in the Southern Hemisphere.
 
2022-05-23 4:00:07 AM  

caira: Every billionaire is a policy failure


The hilarious thing is that you think the billionaires are the arrogant ones.
 
2022-05-23 4:02:36 AM  
Now we just need a proper, robust Federal Independent Commission Against Corruption and watch the LNP vanish, either hiding or in jail.

Why did the LNP politician cross the road? I don't know, but he claimed $15,000 in travel expenses.
 
2022-05-23 4:08:17 AM  

Aussie_As: It's a move to the left, but economically this won't be a hard left turn. It's about accepting the science on climate, which the conservatives really couldn't manage, and it's about improving governance but it's a sad world to live in if these priorities are only of the left. They're just good ideas.

/I'm on the left and I suspect that this government won't be much interested in the sorts of economic reforms I'd like to see, but it's great to have a government which accepts reality rather than buries its head in the sand so I'm not complaining.


I find it highly unlikely that Labor will make significant cuts in mining but it would be grand if they taxed mining exports to build up a National fund that something akin to how Norway has dealt with its oil revenue. Near-term increases in solar and grid upgrades, some educational trusts, science R&D trusts, and of course escrow accounts for rehabilitating mining sites.

Of course that would upset Gina, and that's enough of a reason to do it.
 
2022-05-23 4:19:52 AM  
Living in a margin seat is great, I know my vote counted. I also live in a world heritage national park and I'm stoked with how the election has gone.
 
2022-05-23 4:20:30 AM  
I don't think anyone can compare to the Honest Government Ads when it comes to brutally holding your government to account

Honest Government Ad | 2022 Election (Season 2 finale)
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2022-05-23 4:27:10 AM  

leeksfromchichis: America, take notes


No American wants to follow those funny moustached socialists, man.
 
2022-05-23 4:28:24 AM  

wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.


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2022-05-23 4:28:29 AM  
Will be interesting to see if australia changes it's policy of "fark new zealanders who live here, they can pay taxes, but under no circumstances should they be allowed any of the benefits that comes with", unlike how we do to the australians we tolerate here.
 
2022-05-23 4:28:58 AM  
Oh, another point about the Australian election which is only vaguely alluded to in TFA, it's a lot of the wealthiest electorates in the country who are now represented by independents. Independents now represent a lot of harbouside/beachside Sydney, some of the most affluent bits of Melbourne, the wealthiest seats in South Australia and Tasmania (I'm sorta guessing that stat about Tasmania, I don't claim to be too familiar with that state) and some nice bits of Perth. These would usually be blue-ribbon conservative seats.

It's good to see educated, professional people voting for common sense, not just tax breaks. Well done to them.

Also great to see Barnaby Joyce claim in the media that it's not all his fault the coalition he was deputy leader of lost the election. It was your fault Barnaby, and everybody knows it.
 
2022-05-23 4:28:58 AM  

calufrax: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

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/not not photoshop


*not my photoshop
 
2022-05-23 4:32:49 AM  

caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.


I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?
 
2022-05-23 4:34:44 AM  

Aussie_As: It's a move to the left, but economically this won't be a hard left turn. It's about accepting the science on climate, which the conservatives really couldn't manage, and it's about improving governance but it's a sad world to live in if these priorities are only of the left. They're just good ideas.

/I'm on the left and I suspect that this government won't be much interested in the sorts of economic reforms I'd like to see, but it's great to have a government which accepts reality rather than buries its head in the sand so I'm not complaining.


Yeah, this. Labor had a solid performance, but the "teal indépendants" who really stuck the boot in to conservative heartlands are a mix of ideologies, with two central themes - climate change needs to be addressed, and there needs to be federal accountability (ICAC). They're otherwise not particularly left leaning, and fairly centrist for the most part.

The greens did well though are definitely left leaning, and will have a fair few members in though, so there will be more left voices being heard, but with a diverse cross bench, Labour can pick and choose who it deals with for each issue.
 
2022-05-23 4:38:37 AM  

Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?


Without the charm, and with the actual money.
 
2022-05-23 4:41:37 AM  

Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?


Yes, I don't know if he calls himself that but he wouldn't object to it I'm pretty sure. Certainly that's how he's seen. He appears to be a genuine billionaire having built his wealth in mining primarily, so maybe he's richer than Trump? And he loves a populist idea and the sound of his own voice.

He appears to be involved in politics for reasons of ego rather than trying to get even richer, from what I can see. But very few voters are buying what he's selling. He's antivaxx for example (in the same way a lot of US Republicans are, hates mask mandates and travel restrictions for example) but in a country which is over 90 per cent vaccinated you can see that's not what we're into.
 
2022-05-23 4:42:26 AM  

wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.


There's a Ghostbuster reference in there. Not sure it's relevant but I'm sure somehow it is : )
 
2022-05-23 4:43:10 AM  

Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?


It's unfair to them both. They're both looking to protect their other investments and will say absolutely anything if they think it'll gain them a vote somewhere, but Trump has attained far greater political success while spending proportionally less of his own money (probably, it's hard to be certain given the opacity of both countries' election funding), while Clive has only had one of his companies go bankrupt.
 
2022-05-23 4:43:31 AM  

calufrax: Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?

Without the charm, and with the actual money.


we had a guy like this in Canada, Kevin O'Leary. He tried to run for prime minister in Canada, US style. He didn't seem to grasp that he has to become an MP first by winning his riding. He thought he could just buy the prime ministership. He got in severe trouble with elections Canada.

What it is with these rich f*cks that think that just because they have money it somehow endows them with god like powers to run the world.

Absolute money corrupt the mind.

I'm glad this Clive blowhard got his ass handed to him.
 
2022-05-23 4:44:55 AM  

replacementcool: Will be interesting to see if australia changes it's policy of "fark new zealanders who live here, they can pay taxes, but under no circumstances should they be allowed any of the benefits that comes with", unlike how we do to the australians we tolerate here.


Its a weird insanity they about about Kiwis. Bloody pols stoking up and then pandering to non-existent crap.
 
2022-05-23 4:45:06 AM  

Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?


Extremely accurate.

Where America goes, Australia goes, 10 years later and in a half-arsed fashion. In this case, we half-arsed the part about giving him actual power.
 
2022-05-23 4:47:29 AM  

Aussie_As: Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?

Yes, I don't know if he calls himself that but he wouldn't object to it I'm pretty sure. Certainly that's how he's seen. He appears to be a genuine billionaire having built his wealth in mining primarily, so maybe he's richer than Trump? And he loves a populist idea and the sound of his own voice.

He appears to be involved in politics for reasons of ego rather than trying to get even richer, from what I can see. But very few voters are buying what he's selling. He's antivaxx for example (in the same way a lot of US Republicans are, hates mask mandates and travel restrictions for example) but in a country which is over 90 per cent vaccinated you can see that's not what we're into.


that's the trouble with these guys. They never have enough. It's never enough. They could have every dollar in circulation and they want more. It's like there's something fundamentally wrong with their brains.

I saw the movie "All The Money In The World" about J Paul Getty and his refusal to pay the ransom for his grandson who was maimed in the attack. His dehumanizing attitude towards all his grandchildren was chilling.

When asked "what do you want?" He said "more money"

It's a Sickness.
 
2022-05-23 4:48:41 AM  

Jemraine: Why did the LNP politician cross the road? I don't know, but he claimed $15,000 in travel expenses.


Smunnied! And I am SOOO stealing that one. Thanks!
 
2022-05-23 4:51:52 AM  

LockeOak: DocUi: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

The sound of stupid assholes money going poof.

(Can't burn the Aussie Money it's that Polymer stuff.)

/Canadian
//I think we actually got our Polymer from Australia or the formulation or some thing like that.
///I miss the different sized bills


We print our own: https://www.cbnco.com/

Funny, I'm pretty sure the NZ polymer bills are made in Canada.

You are correct: www.rbnz.govt.nz/notes-and-coins/notes/banknote-life-cycle (scrioll down the page a bit)

/can't get 2nd url to link, dunno why
//need coffee
 
2022-05-23 4:54:39 AM  

maddermaxx: Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?

Extremely accurate.

Where America goes, Australia goes, 10 years later and in a half-arsed fashion. In this case, we half-arsed the part about giving him actual power.


it's funny in America the Trumpists have moved beyond the actual man, who is now a babbling, incoherent adult diaper wearing man who wanders around, obviously broken, into a cult-fantasy version of Trump as Jesus with all sorts of fan-fic heroic art: muscle bound Rambo type. It's quite bizarre to watch what these Trumpfanboys have devolved into.

Is it just as weird for you to see as it is for me, because I'm seriously scratching my head at this mass psychosis going on before our very eyes.

I'm glad that common sense won out in Australia
 
2022-05-23 4:56:34 AM  
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2022-05-23 4:57:02 AM  

maddermaxx: Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?

Extremely accurate.

Where America goes, Australia goes, 10 years later and in a half-arsed fashion. In this case, we half-arsed the part about giving him actual power.


also wanted to point out that Canada has its Trumpists too, but it's so pathetic and done in desperation to feel something, to be a part of something they don't quite grasp.
 
2022-05-23 4:57:10 AM  
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2022-05-23 5:04:24 AM  
https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/malcolm-turnbull-warns-rise-of-teal-independents-threatens-liberal-finances-as-well-as-its-position-in-parliament/news-story/c9ee58b2827f6be16dbff534444de9bc

About half way down the article I've just linked you get to the bits where the hard-right conservatives are blaming the moderates in their party for the loss. It's so funny. They just watched an election where they lost suburban seats to Labor and some of their blue-ribbon heartland to independents who want action on climate and better governance (eg investigation of corruption etc) and they're saying "the problem was we weren't right wing enough".

Matt Canavan who is quoted in the article was howled down by his entire side of politics early in the campaign when he claimed he'd make sure the conservatives would break their promise to make the country carbon-neutral by 2050. It's a shiatty attempt at a climate policy, and he effectively announced "we're going to dump that, I'll make sure of it, and we're going to do nothing about climate issues". That moment cemented thousands of votes for the independents. And now he's claiming the problem was that there wasn't more of that kind of insanity.

Why, yes he is a Queenslander for those wondering.
 
2022-05-23 5:09:21 AM  

Aussie_As: It's a move to the left, but economically this won't be a hard left turn. It's about accepting the science on climate, which the conservatives really couldn't manage, and it's about improving governance but it's a sad world to live in if these priorities are only of the left. They're just good ideas.

/I'm on the left and I suspect that this government won't be much interested in the sorts of economic reforms I'd like to see, but it's great to have a government which accepts reality rather than buries its head in the sand so I'm not complaining.


No no, the libs never "buried their heads in the sand" they did exactly what they were paid (or self serving) needed to do.
 
2022-05-23 5:15:42 AM  

Aussie_As: https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/malcolm-turnbull-warns-rise-of-teal-independents-threatens-liberal-finances-as-well-as-its-position-in-parliament/news-story/c9ee58b2827f6be16dbff534444de9bc

About half way down the article I've just linked you get to the bits where the hard-right conservatives are blaming the moderates in their party for the loss. It's so funny. They just watched an election where they lost suburban seats to Labor and some of their blue-ribbon heartland to independents who want action on climate and better governance (eg investigation of corruption etc) and they're saying "the problem was we weren't right wing enough".

Matt Canavan who is quoted in the article was howled down by his entire side of politics early in the campaign when he claimed he'd make sure the conservatives would break their promise to make the country carbon-neutral by 2050. It's a shiatty attempt at a climate policy, and he effectively announced "we're going to dump that, I'll make sure of it, and we're going to do nothing about climate issues". That moment cemented thousands of votes for the independents. And now he's claiming the problem was that there wasn't more of that kind of insanity.

Why, yes he is a Queenslander for those wondering.


I do hope the two or three Green MPs who just got elected along the Brisbane River (a couple may yet go Labor, it's close on the preference counts) send him a nice thank-you card for all the votes. It's the polite thing to do.
 
2022-05-23 5:16:24 AM  
I'm not technically a leftist. Not in Australia anyway. (In America, you'd probably lump me in with AOC for supporting things like universal health care, pensions and welfare - things that are settled policies in Australia).

In fact, the moderate wing of the Liberal Party is my natural home, given the lack of a centrist, non-Labor alternative. If I were to join again, I'd either be on the extreme left of the Libs, or the extreme right of the Greens. (The extreme right of the Labor Party is the Catholic conservative almost corporatist movement supported by the SDA and it's stooges). I'd probably be on the left of any "teal" independent movement too.

T
I'm so glad this happened to them. It will either wake them up, or kill them dead. If abandon cities for the bogan bloke demographic (Translation for America: if they support redneck men rather than the middle class) they're going to transition to no more than a regional or minor party like the Nationals, relying on the outer suburban and regional areas that have shown a mean independent streak as much as the inner city.

The solution: accept that society is moving on. Stop being conservative, and start being liberall.
 
2022-05-23 5:17:15 AM  

twonky: I don't think anyone can compare to the Honest Government Ads when it comes to brutally holding your government to account

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I luv them and proudly wear one of their t-shirts (Department of shiatfarkery.)
 
2022-05-23 5:18:32 AM  
Yes it is the same t-shirt I have been wearing for a few days - I suffer from Chronic Depression and rarely leave my house :p
 
2022-05-23 5:22:08 AM  

Langdon_777: Aussie_As: It's a move to the left, but economically this won't be a hard left turn. It's about accepting the science on climate, which the conservatives really couldn't manage, and it's about improving governance but it's a sad world to live in if these priorities are only of the left. They're just good ideas.

/I'm on the left and I suspect that this government won't be much interested in the sorts of economic reforms I'd like to see, but it's great to have a government which accepts reality rather than buries its head in the sand so I'm not complaining.

No no, the libs never "buried their heads in the sand" they did exactly what they were paid (or self serving) needed to do.


Yes, apparently no matter what happens, it's always the fault of evil people doing evil things for self-serving evil purposes. Why we haven't risen up and beheaded all these evil self-servingly evil people is a mystery....

unless those of us who WOULD are in fact secretly self-servingly evil people on the payrolls of the evil self-serving people above us, being used to keep the good people below us from killing the ones above! But that might mean there are multiple layers of self-serving evil people! Who's to say that below the SECOND layer of self-serving evil people, there isn't a third--or even a fourth--tier of self-serving evil, being paid off to deliberately and knowingly keep all the good people from rising up and knowing the truth about it all!! Maybe we're ALL IN ON IT!!

Or, you know, it's just that there are only 24 hours in a day and a lot of other things going on, and sometimes the long-term has to make way for the short-term. It would be nice if governments could solve all problems once, immediately, and forever, but life just doesn't work that way.

But if it makes you feel better to think they're all just consciously evil puppets being told what to do by even more evil puppetmasters, you go right ahead. It seems like a depressing way to live, but you do you.
 
2022-05-23 5:28:27 AM  

englaja: The solution: accept that society is moving on. Stop being conservative, and start being liberal.


And accept people with fat fingers who hit submit before their time.

T

The Liberals are not going to win elections by being reactionary. This is not America. Trying to make us America will end them in the same boat as Clive Palmer.
They need to get back to their roots: the middle class. Build up the middle class. Build up it's numbers, it's wealth, and embrace what they want. Their policies have destroyed that social mobility and progress for the sake of simplistic tax cuts and corporate handouts and dogdy deals for their mates. They have fostered a fear and shallow greed that has made people clamour for every dollar they can, so are opposed to the very policies that would actually help them. Fortunately, the intelligent ones have seen through it, rejected it resoundly, got together, and sent them packing into the wilderness.

Maybe it will result in a Liberal reformation. I doubt it. It will likely see the emergence of a Liberal party without a progressive wing, and a centrist progressive grouping or party that will be strong, but probably not strong enough to govern in its own right unless it makes inroads into Labor territory too.

Next election is going to be very interesting. But one things certain: I'm glad I got off that shipwreck a decade ago. It's going to get nasty.
 
2022-05-23 5:37:16 AM  

Gyrfalcon: But if it makes you feel better to think they're all just consciously evil puppets being told what to do by even more evil puppetmasters, you go right ahead. It seems like a depressing way to live, but you do you.


The fossil fuel industry is pretty big in Australia and they're pretty big donors to the major political parties. The agricultural sector (particularly the cattle sector) isn't too keen on emissions reduction either. It's not about "evil puppetmasters" literally, but it is about vested interests buying influence in Canberra, the end result is remarkably similar.

Think about the US, it's the same thing. Why has the US taken so long to act on emissions reduction? Why did the US go to war based on lies in Iraq (and drag Australia with it, I might add)? Follow the money, there's the answer.
 
2022-05-23 5:37:47 AM  

Astorix: caira: wademh: Clive Palmer being roundly rejected makes me feel good.

Clive was already round and has been rejected before, not that it ever stopped him.  Every billionaire is a policy failure, that particular one is also a failure of good taste, discretion, humility, and the ability to take a hint.

I read the article that he's described as "Australia's Trump" is that pretty accurate?


They are both big and brash. Neither has any class. Clive made a lot of money in mining (after he made money in real estate). He did a few grand gesture things (bought lots of Mercedes for his employees) but later turned around and refused to pay severance when his mine closed.

He started his own political party --- The Clive Palmer's United Australia Party and ran for a seat. He accused the other side of election fraud but he won.  Essentially, he's an egomaniac who loves every idea he has. He's not as dumb as Trump but perhaps as foolish. In many ways, he's probably more dangerous.
 
2022-05-23 5:41:11 AM  
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2022-05-23 5:44:07 AM  
It's no coincidence that Australian politics are beginning to resemble American politics in some some sense.

Rupert's Australia.

I hope you can fix yours. I hope we can fix ours. The stench from the Right may eventually become so toxic that enough people will leave and it will either collapse or reform itself finally, purging the crazies.

Or the crazies will take power they weren't given and overthrow the elected government.
 
2022-05-23 5:47:22 AM  
What is encouraging about the election outcome is that nobody was physically attacked, people voted however they pleased, and the transition to the new government will probably be seamless...
 
2022-05-23 5:49:38 AM  

Aussie_As: https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/malcolm-turnbull-warns-rise-of-teal-independents-threatens-liberal-finances-as-well-as-its-position-in-parliament/news-story/c9ee58b2827f6be16dbff534444de9bc

About half way down the article I've just linked you get to the bits where the hard-right conservatives are blaming the moderates in their party for the loss. It's so funny. They just watched an election where they lost suburban seats to Labor and some of their blue-ribbon heartland to independents who want action on climate and better governance (eg investigation of corruption etc) and they're saying "the problem was we weren't right wing enough".

Matt Canavan who is quoted in the article was howled down by his entire side of politics early in the campaign when he claimed he'd make sure the conservatives would break their promise to make the country carbon-neutral by 2050. It's a shiatty attempt at a climate policy, and he effectively announced "we're going to dump that, I'll make sure of it, and we're going to do nothing about climate issues". That moment cemented thousands of votes for the independents. And now he's claiming the problem was that there wasn't more of that kind of insanity.

Why, yes he is a Queenslander for those wondering.


So what you are saying is that Queensland is basically Australia's Florida?
 
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