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2022-05-23 5:37:16 AM  
The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!
 
2022-05-23 6:44:33 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!


Yeah, they have uniforms and everything!
 
2022-05-23 7:06:32 AM  

The Smails Kid: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!

Yeah, they have uniforms and everything!


And their stadium is awesome!
 
2022-05-23 7:18:06 AM  
The worst thing is that the players are undoubtedly doing their best, because they want to stay in the big leagues. This falls entirely on management and ownership. The Pirates managed one title two years after the onset of free agency, and since then they've had two good stretches where castoffs played better than expected and young players developed all at once. When they're good it's entirely by coincidence, because they have never paid anyone. Come contract time they're traded away or allowed to sign elsewhere.

The worst part is that it won't change. Nutting, like McClatchy before him, doesn't need to sell a single seat in PNC Park to make money, and he doesn't care about the criticism. They Pirates will never be good again unless they get another rare period of synchronicity, which history tells us we can expect in another 15-20 years.

And yet, here I am every year hoping something will change. I even know better. But I can't root for some other team. There's a nobility in sticking it out even when you know they'll never be good that frontrunners will never have.
 
2022-05-23 7:37:42 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!


The owners will magically have financial statements lightning fast for the media showing how much they are losing running the team.  Yet, they'd be able to sell the team for $100,000,000s more than they bought it.
 
2022-05-23 7:51:05 AM  
MLB basically has a soft salary cap. It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent. Right now there's just no incentive for small market teams to do anything other than cash their revenue sharing checks. Their team sucks, it makes baseball worse, and in the end the game continues its death spiral to irrelevance heading towards the tiny niche sport area like boxing and horse racing.

It is pretty freaking funny that the Red Sox and Phillies both have team salaries over $200 million and have sub .500 records. Funny unless your a fan of those teams.
 
2022-05-23 7:51:27 AM  
you're*

god damnit I need more coffee.
 
2022-05-23 8:04:54 AM  
Relevant:

Yadier Molina PITCHES the entire 9th inning for the Cardinals! (Pujols helps him warm up!)
Youtube ZXOF8azYZ9U
 
2022-05-23 8:30:39 AM  
For perspective on the one tweet, in year 3 of the Neal Huntington regime they lost 100 games
 
2022-05-23 8:33:01 AM  

soopey: MLB basically has a soft salary cap. It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent. Right now there's just no incentive for small market teams to do anything other than cash their revenue sharing checks. Their team sucks, it makes baseball worse, and in the end the game continues its death spiral to irrelevance heading towards the tiny niche sport area like boxing and horse racing.

It is pretty freaking funny that the Red Sox and Phillies both have team salaries over $200 million and have sub .500 records. Funny unless your a fan of those teams.


Again I point out, if there's a salary floor all it does is mean teams like the Pirates are still bad because other rebuilding teams add salary too. All a salary floor does is make fans feel better about losing
 
2022-05-23 8:43:46 AM  

BadJazz: Relevant:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZXOF8azYZ9U]


A week after Pujols closed out a game.

Not that I would compare the Pirates to the Padres this season.
 
2022-05-23 8:44:27 AM  
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2022-05-23 9:09:55 AM  
Yet somehow they're tied for third in their division, which illustrates how bad the Cubs and the Reds are as well.

/Sell the team, Bob.
 
2022-05-23 9:17:24 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The worst thing is that the players are undoubtedly doing their best, because they want to stay in the big leagues. This falls entirely on management and ownership. The Pirates managed one title two years after the onset of free agency, and since then they've had two good stretches where castoffs played better than expected and young players developed all at once. When they're good it's entirely by coincidence, because they have never paid anyone. Come contract time they're traded away or allowed to sign elsewhere.


This just isn't true. They signed Andrew McCutchen to a long term deal and got all of his prime years because of it. They signed Starling Marte to a long-term deal and had him into his 30s. They have Hayes into his 30s. Generally the only important young players they haven't signed to long-term deals have in the last decade-or-so have been Boras clients and that's because he never signs long-terms deals before his clients hit free-agency. He just just turned down 350m for $13 years on Juan Soto's behalf. If you want to go back to the Dave Littlefield-era policy of not drafting Boras clients so you can feel good about having Paul Maholm and not Gerritt Cole I guess that's okay?
 
2022-05-23 10:25:54 AM  
Believe it or not, the Pirates might actually be worse than the Reds. Based on runs scored and runs given up, the Pirates are 5 games better in the standings than where you'd expect them to be, and the Reds are 2 games worse. And yet, they took two of three from the Dodgers earlier this month. Baseball's a funny game.
 
2022-05-23 11:14:42 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The worst thing is that the players are undoubtedly doing their best, because they want to stay in the big leagues. This falls entirely on management and ownership. The Pirates managed one title two years after the onset of free agency, and since then they've had two good stretches where castoffs played better than expected and young players developed all at once. When they're good it's entirely by coincidence, because they have never paid anyone. Come contract time they're traded away or allowed to sign elsewhere.

The worst part is that it won't change. Nutting, like McClatchy before him, doesn't need to sell a single seat in PNC Park to make money, and he doesn't care about the criticism. They Pirates will never be good again unless they get another rare period of synchronicity, which history tells us we can expect in another 15-20 years.

And yet, here I am every year hoping something will change. I even know better. But I can't root for some other team. There's a nobility in sticking it out even when you know they'll never be good that frontrunners will never have.


I feel for you, I really do. And it really would be easy to turn it around, with the right ownership. Keep in mind that the Dodgers only became frontrunners after a change in ownership. The time period between the O'Malleys and the Guggenheim team was bleak. Getting the TV deal, which one can get if they have an exciting product to market, made all the difference. I hope someday you get some enlightened ownership who can turn it around.
 
2022-05-23 11:15:22 AM  

Swordblade: Yet somehow they're tied for third in their division, which illustrates how bad the Cubs and the Reds are as well.

/Sell the team, Bob.


Remember when the Pirates were basically the Cubs' AAA team? I sure do...

Is it too early to start drinking?
 
2022-05-23 11:41:16 AM  
Don't go to Pirates games, yall. Don't buy tickets, don't watch on TV. It's a scam. There's no reason to invest yourself financially or emotionally in this team.
 
2022-05-23 12:55:45 PM  
soopey: It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent.

Yes, it really does. So dickheaded "presidents of operations" will actually have to acquire new talent more than once in a blue moon. And not fire managers after getting franchise-record streaks just because they said "Please sir, I want some more".

Wouldn't they, Mo?
 
2022-05-23 1:21:57 PM  

sephjnr: soopey: It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent.

Yes, it really does. So dickheaded "presidents of operations" will actually have to acquire new talent more than once in a blue moon. And not fire managers after getting franchise-record streaks just because they said "Please sir, I want some more".

Wouldn't they, Mo?


Okay , answer me this. Let's say the Pirates added $50-75 million to their payroll to this roster. How much better are they really? That gets you 4-6 average-to-above-average free agents. How many wins does that add to the team? 10? And again, that's not even taking into consideration that all other rebuilding teams would add roughly the same amount of payroll. Again again, all the whole "salary floor" solution does is make fans feel better about losing
 
2022-05-23 1:23:01 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Don't go to Pirates games, yall. Don't buy tickets, don't watch on TV. It's a scam. There's no reason to invest yourself financially or emotionally in this team.


This is fair. No one says any MLB team is entitled to business if the fans don't like the way the team is run
 
2022-05-23 1:42:47 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!


Pirates Bob Nutting's WWE Entrance Video (Shane McMahon)
Youtube E2zL0n2yubM
 
2022-05-23 1:43:13 PM  

Pavia_Resistance: The Smails Kid: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The owners are still turning a profit and spending ten cents on the dollar compared to the Dodgers, so, the team is doing great!

Yeah, they have uniforms and everything!

And their stadium is awesome!


It is The New Factory of Sadness.
 
2022-05-23 2:00:11 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Don't go to Pirates games, yall. Don't buy tickets, don't watch on TV. It's a scam. There's no reason to invest yourself financially or emotionally in this team.


I was in town last year when the Cubs came into town.  So did their fans.  The place I was at had like 90% Cubs fans, and all but one of the rest couldn't care less about baseball.

/Braves fan
 
2022-05-23 2:09:58 PM  

TDWCom29: sephjnr: soopey: It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent.

Yes, it really does. So dickheaded "presidents of operations" will actually have to acquire new talent more than once in a blue moon. And not fire managers after getting franchise-record streaks just because they said "Please sir, I want some more".

Wouldn't they, Mo?

Okay , answer me this. Let's say the Pirates added $50-75 million to their payroll to this roster. How much better are they really? That gets you 4-6 average-to-above-average free agents. How many wins does that add to the team? 10? And again, that's not even taking into consideration that all other rebuilding teams would add roughly the same amount of payroll. Again again, all the whole "salary floor" solution does is make fans feel better about losing


Those 10 games put you closer to parity with the high end teams. Games won't be 5 - 2 any more, maybe closer to 4-3. Closer games, more competition, more rivalries, better product in the end. It won't help the worst of the worst in the league, teams going through a year or two rebuild that sold off parts to get draft capital and prospects, but it would help boost play for teams in the middle to lower middle of the pack both in standings and on-field product.

No one wins except the owner when a stadium is empty and a team is 20 games below .500 by the all star break every god damned year.
 
2022-05-23 2:16:58 PM  

soopey: TDWCom29: sephjnr: soopey: It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent.

Yes, it really does. So dickheaded "presidents of operations" will actually have to acquire new talent more than once in a blue moon. And not fire managers after getting franchise-record streaks just because they said "Please sir, I want some more".

Wouldn't they, Mo?

Okay , answer me this. Let's say the Pirates added $50-75 million to their payroll to this roster. How much better are they really? That gets you 4-6 average-to-above-average free agents. How many wins does that add to the team? 10? And again, that's not even taking into consideration that all other rebuilding teams would add roughly the same amount of payroll. Again again, all the whole "salary floor" solution does is make fans feel better about losing

Those 10 games put you closer to parity with the high end teams.


You're Dave Littlefield aren't you? He'd always sign a few Kenny Loftons and Derek Bells in a vain attempt to "compete"

Games won't be 5 - 2 any more, maybe closer to 4-3.

You still lose, who cares? You want them to get participation trophies too if they spend enough money?


Closer games, more competition, more rivalries, better product in the end. It won't help the worst of the worst in the league, teams going through a year or two rebuild that sold off parts to get draft capital and prospects,

So....the Pirates. This is year 2.5 of the rebuild, rebuilds that start from as poor a place as they were usually take 5 years. They "went for it" in 2018 when they traded the farm for Chris friggin Archer. But hey, yay, they finished above .500! Give them all the Blizzards!

but it would help boost play for teams in the middle to lower middle of the pack both in standings and on-field product.


Not if they all do it
 
2022-05-23 2:35:25 PM  

TDWCom29: soopey: TDWCom29: sephjnr: soopey: It really needs a floor or some penalty to force owners to spend and compete for better talent.

Yes, it really does. So dickheaded "presidents of operations" will actually have to acquire new talent more than once in a blue moon. And not fire managers after getting franchise-record streaks just because they said "Please sir, I want some more".

Wouldn't they, Mo?

Okay , answer me this. Let's say the Pirates added $50-75 million to their payroll to this roster. How much better are they really? That gets you 4-6 average-to-above-average free agents. How many wins does that add to the team? 10? And again, that's not even taking into consideration that all other rebuilding teams would add roughly the same amount of payroll. Again again, all the whole "salary floor" solution does is make fans feel better about losing

Those 10 games put you closer to parity with the high end teams.

You're Dave Littlefield aren't you? He'd always sign a few Kenny Loftons and Derek Bells in a vain attempt to "compete"

Games won't be 5 - 2 any more, maybe closer to 4-3.

You still lose, who cares? You want them to get participation trophies too if they spend enough money?


Closer games, more competition, more rivalries, better product in the end. It won't help the worst of the worst in the league, teams going through a year or two rebuild that sold off parts to get draft capital and prospects,

So....the Pirates. This is year 2.5 of the rebuild, rebuilds that start from as poor a place as they were usually take 5 years. They "went for it" in 2018 when they traded the farm for Chris friggin Archer. But hey, yay, they finished above .500! Give them all the Blizzards!

but it would help boost play for teams in the middle to lower middle of the pack both in standings and on-field product.

Not if they all do it


Also, let me be clear. I'm not against spending money on free agents. I'm against spending money on free agents when you have a lousy foundation and those free agents mean you maybe win 75 games if you're lucky. Which is what the Pirates did for all of Dave Littlefield's regime. When you have the foundation, go nuts. If not? Don't be stupid
 
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